ksl1974 said:

So this now gives the family 2 days left is all...to file a wrongful death lawsuit against....someone.

Based on what's been reported, there is really no proof to sue anyone. The Rx that Schulenburg wrote to Kirk did not cause Prince's death.

I'm just not understanding how the fentanyl didn't show up in Moline or when he saw Dr. S on the 20th? Can someone explain? It doesn't make sense. How is it a high dosage was discovered at death in his blood, liver, and stomach but no prior medical visits??? Would it have shown up in his urine sample from the 20th or would you have to run special toxicology reports? Something just seems "off."

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ksl1974 said:

Wait...now I did find this... "Like all states, Minnesota has a time limit for filing a wrongful death lawsuit in court. This kid of deadline comes from a law known as a statute of limitations. In Minnesota, a wrongful death lawsuit must be filed within three years of the date of the deceased person's death. If the claim is not filed within three years, the court will likely refuse to hear it at all, with a few rare exceptions."

There is a difference between wrongful death (3years in Minnesota) and medical malpractice (4years in Minnesota).

I never thought of the medical malpractice. I just mentioned the wrongful death in what I posted a little bit ago. I'd heard *some* of the family is considering that.

PennyPurple said:

your story sounds awful. My sympathies to your husband!!

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(and I'm not addressing this to you specifically Penny): What would happen if we just stopped judging people...period? If we looked at people -- especially people who are doing things that are hurting their ability to live a full, healthy life -- with compassion? Everyone has pain and struggles; they're not always physical and we can't always see them. And for whatever reason, some people are better equipped than others to deal with their struggles in a healthy way.

PennyPurple said:

OperatingThetan said:

PennyPurple said: There's a major difference between medicating for chronic pain and using recreational drugs. In all other aspects Prince was clean living. Have you ever experienced chronic pain? If you ever do I hope you're not met by your own severity of judgement.

I live with the effects of chronic pain with my husband 24/7. My husband is in so much pain that he wakes up screaming. Every night I look over at him and see tears running down his face. He screams when he takes a shower because the water feels like acid on his skin. They took him completely off this mess of a drug and it took 5 years to wean him off. I know what I'm talking about. I do not judge people for taking legal drugs for chronic pain.

Will they be able to file a civil suit against Dr. S or KJ?

tmo1965 said:

ksl1974 said:

So this now gives the family 2 days left is all...to file a wrongful death lawsuit against....someone.

Based on what's been reported, there is really no proof to sue anyone. The Rx that Schulenburg wrote to Kirk did not cause Prince's death.

I didn't know if they'd still try and go after Kirk or not. Based on him being the right hand man, and being the last one to see Prince alive. And also being involved in the Moline incident. I spent some time shut in a room with Kirk in October 2016. He's a nice enough guy. Some things he said were a little odd.....but I never got the feeling even *if* he knew what had truly happened, that it was malicious on his part at all. The way he talked, he truly cared for Prince and was really missing him.

PennyPurple said:

Will they be able to file a civil suit against Dr. S or KJ?

yes. but they would have a very hard time winning. They have virtually no case against the Dr and proving Kirk had anything to do with getting the fentanyl would be hard.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

Will they be able to file a civil suit against Dr. S or KJ?

yes. but they would have a very hard time winning. They have virtually no case against the Dr and proving Kirk had anything to do with getting the fentanyl would be hard.

No not about the fentanyl, about Dr. S writing a prescription to kj when he knew it was for P, and for kj having 2 scripts for pain that P had.

PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

yes. but they would have a very hard time winning. They have virtually no case against the Dr and proving Kirk had anything to do with getting the fentanyl would be hard.

No not about the fentanyl, about Dr. S writing a prescription to kj when he knew it was for P, and for kj having 2 scripts for pain that P had.

they have no case for that.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

No not about the fentanyl, about Dr. S writing a prescription to kj when he knew it was for P, and for kj having 2 scripts for pain that P had.

they have no case for that.

Also, they are looking for the "deep pockets" and I dont think Kirk has all that much.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

That press conference was utter bullshit!! Two f-ing years to hear that crap??!! Disgusted!!

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I can't say I'm surprised by the outcome, but I'm thoroughly upset.

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Our justice system is a complete joke! No justice for Prince.

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html

AnnaSantana said:

luv4u said:

No proof

That doesn't mean he's not responsible. It means he's getting away with it.

THANK YOU!!

tmo1965 said:

Strive said:

tmo1965 said:

According to this CNN article about no charges being filed in Prince's death: https://www.cnn.com/2018/...ndex.html , Kirk got a legitimate Rx of Percocet for Prince the night before Prince died. So why did Prince die? Was he in denial and took the illegal pills anyway? Something does not add up.

All signs point to suicide but since he didn't leave a note explicitly saying ' have decided 2 kill myself' the cops and the estate will never make the leap. It's better for them if Prince was a victim instead of a man taking control of a hopeless situation in the only manner that was left (in his mind)

No they don't.

rogifan said:

I’m curious, would the investigators in this case have reason to discuss publicly or release information on other medical issues? Seems to me they’re sticking to the what and not getting involved in the why.

I wonder the same, and I agree with you about the investigators just sticking to commenting on the 'what' of the situation, and not getting into the 'why' or other circumstances.

PennyPurple said:

Strive said:

tmo1965 said: All signs point to suicide but since he didn't leave a note explicitly saying ' have decided 2 kill myself' the cops and the estate will never make the leap. It's better for them if Prince was a victim instead of a man taking control of a hopeless situation in the only manner that was left (in his mind)

No they don't.

a lot of us believe that was a real possibility. I wasn't thinking we'd get any answers from the cops and so far we haven't.

FunkOnTheOne said:

kmama07 said:

During the news conference it was stated that they were not saying there wasn't someone around him helming to obtain the pills...they just couldn't provide hard evidence that would be proven beyond a reasonable doubt

So presumably the investigation is still open in the sense that if the guilty party comes forward charges will be brought.

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That press conference was all bullshit. They know more than what they are leading us to believe. You don't work on a case for 2-years and have it end this way. Come on! Do they think we are so gullible? The doctors were negligent; people around Prince were negligent. No one has the cajones to speak the truth. I've given up on human-kind. People suck!

OperatingThetan said:

PennyPurple said:

Not true. He made everyone believe he had no use for drugs and he lived clean. And I think a lot of us are disappointed.

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There's a major difference between medicating for chronic pain and using recreational drugs. In all other aspects Prince was clean living. Have you ever experienced chronic pain? If you ever do I hope you're not met by your own severity of judgement.

Agree 100%. I've lived with increasingly severe chronic pain for 30+ years. It eats away at everything about your life, physically and mentally. People that haven't experienced that kind of life will never truly understand.

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ETA: PennyPurple, I'm so sorry for what your husband is going through. I hope will all my heart a new treatment or medication will be found to help him. Bless you both.

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disch said:

The attorney stated that what caused the OD on the plane was likely counterfeit fentanyl-laced vicodin (in a Bayer bottle, I believe he said), not the percocets.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

A fact that leads to more questions to me is The pills prescribed by The dr for Kirk who is much larger than Prince on the 14th made Prince unresponsive on the plane...then a week later it happened again but was fatal as the pills were laced...

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Okay, I ask that attorney: What are we supposed to do with that information? Prince LIKELY took counterfeit Fentanyl on the plane.......umm, okay!

morningsong said:

LilaLiebe said:

The murder nuts are already saying they're going to go to Minneapolis in June and "demand" Kirk, the chefs, et al be 'brought to justice'. They're also saying they're going to crash some party Trump is going to tomorrow to demand that HE do something. It will never stop.

The Soap Opera brigade has a lot of energy to waste.

Yep.

Strive said:

tmo1965 said:

According to this CNN article about no charges being filed in Prince's death: https://www.cnn.com/2018/...ndex.html , Kirk got a legitimate Rx of Percocet for Prince the night before Prince died. So why did Prince die? Was he in denial and took the illegal pills anyway? Something does not add up.

All signs point to suicide but since he didn't leave a note explicitly saying ' have decided 2 kill myself' the cops and the estate will never make the leap. It's better for them if Prince was a victim instead of a man taking control of a hopeless situation in the only manner that was left (in his mind)

I've heard the same from people who knew him. I hope it's not true.

LilaLiebe said:

OperatingThetan said:

PennyPurple said: There's a major difference between medicating for chronic pain and using recreational drugs. In all other aspects Prince was clean living. Have you ever experienced chronic pain? If you ever do I hope you're not met by your own severity of judgement.

Agree 100%. I've lived with increasingly severe chronic pain for 30+ years. It eats away at everything about your life, physically and mentally. People that haven't experienced that kind of life will never truly understand.

Just because Operating Thetan said that, doesn't mean that it's true. Please see my previous posts.

tmo1965 said:

luv4u said:

Carver County Sheriff's Office

https://www.co.carver.mn....estigation

With links posted within on the Prince investigation.

You can subscribe if you want to.

Does anyone know if they will post additional files to this site since the investigation has concluded?

Yes they will post additional files as this was mentioned by the Minn. prosecutor Metz. He said that Minnesota law required that the investigation becomes public information.

cloveringold85 said:

FunkOnTheOne said:

kmama07 said: So presumably the investigation is still open in the sense that if the guilty party comes forward charges will be brought.

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That press conference was all bullshit. They know more than what they are leading us to believe. You don't work on a case for 2-years and have it end this way. Come on! Do they think we are so gullible? The doctors were negligent; people around Prince were negligent. No one has the cajones to speak the truth. I've given up on human-kind. People suck!

the doctor's had no real reason to suspect he had fentanyl pills... and his friends such as Kirk may have well been neglectful but not provably negligent. To get one of them they would have to show a preponderance of the evidence that someone provided him the pills that killed him. (that would be enough that someone provided them they would not have to show they thought they could be mislabeled)

bondno9 said:

I'm just not understanding how the fentanyl didn't show up in Moline or when he saw Dr. S on the 20th? Can someone explain? It doesn't make sense. How is it a high dosage was discovered at death in his blood, liver, and stomach but no prior medical visits??? Would it have shown up in his urine sample from the 20th or would you have to run special toxicology reports? Something just seems "off."

[Edited 4/19/18 11:39am]

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Yes, they would have known he had fentanyl in his system in Moline. They never indicated it was fentanyl, until now.......and, WHY NOT?

LilaLiebe said:

PennyPurple said:

LilaLiebe said:

Agree 100%. I've lived with increasingly severe chronic pain for 30+ years. It eats away at everything about your life, physically and mentally. People that haven't experienced that kind of life will never truly understand.

Just because Operating Thetan said that, doesn't mean that it's true. Please see my previous posts.

I did, and I edited an earlier comment of mine to reflect that. Again, my heart goes out to your husband and to you.

precioux said:

AnnaSantana said:

That doesn't mean he's not responsible. It means he's getting away with it.

THANK YOU!!

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Gotta love America!