laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

But the reasons are clearly explained in the filing.

1. Two firms are hired. Specific areas of practice; Prescription drug overdose deaths/Personal injury. Like you, I don't know who the firms are representing but I can find out.

2. Regardless of who contacted whom, if the firm has been retained, it is primarily about compensation. I am under no illusion that it could be related to compassionate lawyers who love Prince.

The laywers are going to do what they have been retained for. What does their love of Prince have to do with anything?

Poor thing.You mirror what I write . You have been a most rewarding partcipant in more than one way. I thank you .

This is what you stated.

"If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it."

Doctors are involved in dispensing these meds illegally stop assuming that the medical board is all knowing. I bet the medical board in the area of the case below had no idea what those doctors were doing with their DEA numbers.

I believe someone was prescribing those pain meds to Prince either via associates or off the books. I even think he got started via doctors over prescribing for pain.

You are correct this is not a fishing trip. The lawyers the fam have hired are looking at a particular doctor or hospital. They would not be working on this case if they did not think the could get money out of it.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

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under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.
Unless Prince had a pill making machine in the basement of PP someone else is responsible.

Doctors have been caught dispensing pain meds to patients for the sole purpose of making money.

Remember the Goldman's won their case and O.J. was found innocent of Ron's death.

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See the case below Doctors were involved with distrubing pain meds via a fake pain center.

ttps://www.beckersasc.com/asc-turnarounds-ideas-to-improve-performance/pain-center-chain-linked-to-700-patient-deaths-largely-due-to-opioids-7-indicted.html

Two Italians and five Americans have been charged in a fraud and drug trafficking conspiracy to distribute opioids in Tennessee and Florida "pill mills." The alleged conspirators ran the Knoxville, Tenn.-based Urgent Care & Surgery Center Enterprise, which operated opioid based pain management clinics that led to the death of approximately 700 patients.

Here are six things you need to know:

1. The defendants include:

• Luca Sartini
• Luigi Palma (alias Jimmy Palma)
• Benjamin Rodriguez
• Sylvia Hofstetter
• Courtney Newman, NP
• Cynthia Clemons, NP
• Holli Womack (Holli Carmichael), NP

Mr. Sartini and Mr. Palma were arrested in the Rome, Italy-area by Italian authorities. The United States seeks extradition. Prosecutors described Ms. Hofstetter as the largest drug dealer ever to appear in an East Tenn. federal courtroom.

Mr. Rodriguez is set to self-surrender and all other defendants were charged in previous indictments.

2. The defendants ran UCSC Enterprise from April 2009 to March 2015. The defendants allegedly hired medical providers with DEA registration numbers which allowed the providers to prescribe controlled substances. According to the DOJ's report, the prescriptions were typically written for large doses of controlled substances to individuals who had traveled long distances telling the physicians they suffered from severe chronic pain.

3. The superseding indictment alleges the defendants distributed oxycodone, oxymorphone and morphine in sufficient quantities to generate clinic revenue of at least $21 million.

4. The indictment alleges approximately 700 UCSC Enterprise patients are now dead and a significant percentage of those deaths resulted from overdosing on narcotics prescribed by the UCSC Enterprise.

5. The indictment also alleges that many patients arrived in groups sponsored by drug dealers who paid for the pain clinic visits and prescriptions to obtain all or part of the opioids and other narcotics prescribed to the patients. In return, opioid addicted patients would receive a portion of the prescribed narcotics for free from the sponsor.

6. As a result of the Attorney General's Opioid Fraud and Abuse Task Force Initiative investigation, approximately 30 narcotics traffickers have been charged and convicted federally. Approximately 80 to 90 smaller narcotics distributors have been charged and convicted. The Jan. 19 superseding indictment is among 35 related indictments charging about 140 individuals including medical providers employed at the pill mills.

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Ummm, yea, this is not news. lol. I could find tons of reports the mirrors this. Read the filing. It is specific to said entitites listed in the filing. It's not a fishing expedition.

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Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

The laywers are going to do what they have been retained for. What does their love of Prince have to do with anything?

Poor thing.You mirror what I write . You have been a most rewarding partcipant in more than one way. I thank you .

You are the one that ponders this stupid stuff. Who does not know that personal injury lawyers take casees for financial gain. Who the hell cares about their compassion and why does the fact that the Nelsons ( Tyka) getting any money of the stitutaion bother you.

If Prince hated his sibs (after all they are so ghetto) he would have written a will and left them nothing. It is not your money so get the fuck over it already.

laurarichardson said:

This is what you stated.

"If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it."

Doctors are involved in dispensing these meds illegally stop assuming that the medical board is all knowing. I bet the medical board in the area of the case below had no idea what those doctors were doing with their DEA numbers.

I believe someone was prescribing those pain meds to Prince either via associates or off the books. I even think he got started via doctors over prescribing for pain.

You are correct this is not a fishing trip. The lawyers the fam have hired are looking at a particular doctor or hospital. They would not be working on this case if they did not think the could get money out of it.

Menes said:

Ummm, yea, this is not news. lol. I could find tons of reports the mirrors this. Read the filing. It is specific to said entitites listed in the filing. It's not a fishing expedition.

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Well , this is true, It is possible that Dr. Schulenberg 'could have'. Anything is possible. With the heightened mass hysteria in such a high profile case ,I am surprised the DEA and all other law enforcement agencies, would have not had a crack at him with lots of vigor for the past(2) two years. The probabalities are very slim. It's just an opinion based on reasonable expectations in sucha high profile victim of an overdose. Hence me prefacing that statement with:"I would imagine" .* See that?

But you're contributing to a most wonderful cause so dig up some more information for the spoon. Back to work.

Menes said:

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

The laywers are going to do what they have been retained for. What does their love of Prince have to do with anything?

Poor thing.You mirror what I write . You have been a most rewarding partcipant in more than one way. I thank you .

Hey, what about me!

Menes said:

The narrative seems to lean towards whether Prince's death is related to prescription overdose death.

George Loucas specializes in prescription drug overdose death. If Dr. Schulenberg was prescribing pain killers to Prince that caused his death ( specifically fentanyl), I would imagine that the Minnesota Medical board would have some knowledge of it. If the ME stated in her autopsy that there were other forms of opiate in Prince's system other than fentanyl ( which I believe,) it still wouldn't explain how Dr.Schulenberg would have prescribed these things without a trace as of today's date. It could be another doctor but I doubt it. This is all a grab for insurance money, which if collected, would remain sealed and confidential . We would never know the half of it. I am quite sure counsel for Dr. Schulenberg will be happy to answer any and all claims ( since she has already done so). This is all a grab for insurance money under the guise that someone else other than Prince was complicit in the procurement of a legal substance that he ingested.

It will be interesting enough to see if the next-of -kin will be as vigorous in pursuing any other information that supports that Prince himself procured an illicit substance if they can not prove that a doctor gave Prince a legal substance that caused his death.

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Where has it ever been mentioned, by the court papers or the family themselves, that this is a grab for insurance money??

According to Billboard:

Minnesota prosecutors say they'll object to releasing data connected to Prince's death because a criminal investigation is ongoing.

Prosecutors in Carver County released a statement Friday saying law enforcement data is confidential because the investigation is active. It will stay confidential until a charging decision is made.

County Attorney Mark Metz also won't release medical examiner data because he can't currently determine if it would impede the investigation. Once it's closed, that data may be released to Prince's next of kin.

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PennyPurple said:

According to Billboard:

Minnesota prosecutors say they'll object to releasing data connected to Prince's death because a criminal investigation is ongoing.

Prosecutors in Carver County released a statement Friday saying law enforcement data is confidential because the investigation is active. It will stay confidential until a charging decision is made.

County Attorney Mark Metz also won't release medical examiner data because he can't currently determine if it would impede the investigation. Once it's closed, that data may be released to Prince's next of kin.

[Edited 2/9/18 15:40pm]

so two years in and the family members are as much in the dark as we are. no full autopsy report, nor full investigation file for anyone? this thing is weird.

XxAxX said:

PennyPurple said:

According to Billboard:

Minnesota prosecutors say they'll object to releasing data connected to Prince's death because a criminal investigation is ongoing.

Prosecutors in Carver County released a statement Friday saying law enforcement data is confidential because the investigation is active. It will stay confidential until a charging decision is made.

County Attorney Mark Metz also won't release medical examiner data because he can't currently determine if it would impede the investigation. Once it's closed, that data may be released to Prince's next of kin.

[Edited 2/9/18 15:40pm]

so two years in and the family members are as much in the dark as we are. no full autopsy report, nor full investigation file for anyone? this thing is weird.

They just need to close the investigation, if nothings been solved yet, it probably won't be. Besides they could always reopen it at a later date if new info becomes available.

PennyPurple said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

On the surface Dr S's involvement in princes medical care is very blurry, on the surface Kornfeld's involvement in princes medical care is malpractice

There was very minimal involvement where Kornfeld is concerned. Prince was never his patient and he sent his son to assess the condition of Prince, which of course could not be done, because he had died.

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

They just need to close the investigation, if nothings been solved yet, it probably won't be. Besides they could always reopen it at a later date if new info becomes available.

Exactly Why keep it open if they have nothing. It looks shady.

I think the reason that there is so much unrest amongst us all

is that on one level or another...

its always FELT Shady..

laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

There was very minimal involvement where Kornfeld is concerned. Prince was never his patient and he sent his son to assess the condition of Prince, which of course could not be done, because he had died.

if kornfeld was a cardiologist and someone from Minnesota called him in California and said we have a gravely I'll patient who had a massive heart attack a few days ago and all signs point to another life threatening or life ending cardiac event happening any minute...and the cardiologist from California said I will send my son who is not a doctor, he is a kid in college to address this "gravely Ill" patient in Minnesota, there would be no question about weather or not kornfelds actions were ethical...because addiction is not truly treated as an physiological illness just like a bad heart, kornfelds unethical behavior is excused...not by me

Just saying, neither one of the Kornfields even met Prince...We don't even know if they would've accepted him as a patient.

PennyPurple said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

Just saying, neither one of the Kornfields even met Prince...We don't even know if they would've accepted him as a patient.

Because that's how we treat gravely ill people, we wait for a doctor from across the country to interview the dying person and then decide if it a good fit...NO...gravely ill people are treated immediately and any doctor that has any other protocol should be sued for malpractice...

Again, I don't see how any of this can be blamed on the K's. If Prince was so gravely ill, he should've been taken to the emergency room, or an ambulance needed to be called.

But remember Prince threw a party the weekend before he died, he rode a bike, he paced outside of Walgreen's, heck he even went to a Drs office/hospital, why didn't they just go ahead and admit him?

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

Perhaps Dr k or dr S or some other dr was incharge of his care longer than we realize.

—— I think they are keeping it open because his death may be tied to larger drug case. Look at the article I posted about the fake pain clinic with real doctors allowing their DEA numbers to be used. I cannot see Prince buying drugs off a street corner or from the internet but I could see him working with a doctor or clinic. Dr.S said he was not seeing Prince concerning withdrawals and claims he never wrote him any Rxs for pain pills. So what was he doing for Prince? Outside of physical therapy what medical help was he providing and what were the test for? Could another doctor be involved?

So if they never close the case, and the 3 yr limitation is up, what are they to do? They could actually never find out what happened to their brother. That is so wrong.

PennyPurple said:

Agree about Dr K having no particular blame here, given that Prince was actually in a hospital on April 20 for what seems like a decent amount of time, getting treatment there and prescriptions for other medications. If it was obvious that he was in a life-treatening situation, the doctors at that hospital would have been in the best position to see that.

PennyPurple said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said: Because that's how we treat gravely ill people, we wait for a doctor from across the country to interview the dying person and then decide if it a good fit...NO...gravely ill people are treated immediately and any doctor that has any other protocol should be sued for malpractice...

Again, I don't see how any of this can be blamed on the K's. If Prince was so gravely ill, he should've been taken to the emergency room, or an ambulance needed to be called.

But remember Prince threw a party the weekend before he died, he rode a bike, he paced outside of Walgreen's, heck he even went to a Drs office/hospital, why didn't they just go ahead and admit him?

Exactly. They want to use Prince as a poster boy and tool for taking down a cartel meanwhile his family and fans get no closure. My heart just fell when I read that they just flat out refused.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

So if they never close the case, and the 3 yr limitation is up, what are they to do? They could actually never find out what happened to their brother. That is so wrong.

It is wrong and really looks like some sort of cover up or someone being more concerned about getting a big fish and Prince’s death merely being an afterthought.

Exactly. I never thought I would say this but I am starting to feel sorry for his family.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said: —— I think they are keeping it open because his death may be tied to larger drug case. Look at the article I posted about the fake pain clinic with real doctors allowing their DEA numbers to be used. I cannot see Prince buying drugs off a street corner or from the internet but I could see him working with a doctor or clinic. Dr.S said he was not seeing Prince concerning withdrawals and claims he never wrote him any Rxs for pain pills. So what was he doing for Prince? Outside of physical therapy what medical help was he providing and what were the test for? Could another doctor be involved?

So if they never close the case, and the 3 yr limitation is up, what are they to do? They could actually never find out what happened to their brother. That is so wrong.

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Without more info we don't know what they are really looking at although I am betting that ISLIJAG knows what she is talking about. Time will tell.