Mkilpatrick74 said:

Pathologist: Prince's Death 'Bordered On Homicide'

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/princes-death-may-have-been-homicide

rap said:

Pathologist: Prince's Death 'Bordered On Homicide'

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/princes-death-may-have-been-homicide

This article is mostly BS. They lost me when they said that Prince was taking Percocet. They're also getting info from Anna Garcia - when was the last time that she was in contact with Prince anyway (a couple of decades ago, maybe)?

Adorecream said:

135 times the lethal dose. That is true drug addiction sorry. Why would anyone imbibe that much. Prince was a druggie and that has cooled my fandom somewhat.

Even if it was the case, I think his son's death would be a good enough reason for him to start, and for us to be sympathetic. And addiction is precisely the thing you don't have control over, so nothing to be disappointed about, it's precisely the core of the problem.

Adorecream said:

moonsister said:

Adorecream said:

135 times the lethal dose. That is true drug addiction sorry. Why would anyone imbibe that much. Prince was a druggie and that has cooled my fandom somewhat.

Duuuuude, all that fentanyl was probably in one tablet! Just one of the reasons this epidemic is so dangerous. . . All kinds of good people are dying.

Absolutely. Poor man. Two 15 year old girls died in my city recently. They had taken Exctasy pills laced with a large amount of fentanyl. This is happening all over the place now. Prince bought his pills on line and so quality control was nil and the manufacturer probably did not care.

Dini said:

rogifan said:

Dini said:

Absolutely. Poor man. Two 15 year old girls died in my city recently. They had taken Exctasy pills laced with a large amount of fentanyl. This is happening all over the place now. Prince bought his pills on line and so quality control was nil and the manufacturer probably did not care.

He bought these pills online?

Very likely, I think. You can buy anything online, and it is mostly anonymous. I think he probably did it without anyone knowing as he would not want anyone to know. He most definitely did not get them at a pharmacist.

In the news today i read a headline saying Toxicologist says Tragic accident bordering on homicide

Anyone and evryone of u that has never had a drug addiction,u dont know what it is so try not to offend other prince fans who have drug addictions,be nice. if u dont take drugs good for u but dont talk crap about "druggies"

Laydown said:

moonsister said:

Laydown said:

In the news today i read a headline saying Toxicologist says Tragic accident bordering on homicide

Well let's say Pusherman is getting these drugs mailed to him from China then selling them to Prince, and Pusherman is found by investigators by scouring Prince emails, or Kirk had been calling or texting Pusherman for Prince and cops can track him down that way then he could be charged with a homicide, but probably just convicted of selling drugs. They sell throwaway phones so Prince could have communicated with Pusherman that way. [Edited 6/6/17 5:47am]

i hope not.kirk was a friend to him for maybe 30 years

I can remember almost 20 years ago trying to come up with a source for marijuana for a relative who had advanced cancer in case the drugs she was on for pain, etc., weren't working. She died before we nailed that down, but anyone can find anything anywhere. There had to be a go-between delivering the drugs to Prince. Had to be.

Adorecream said:

135 times the lethal dose. That is true drug addiction sorry. Why would anyone imbibe that much. Prince was a druggie and that has cooled my fandom somewhat.

Are you aware that the substance which killed him wasn't supposed to be in the pills he took?

Here is a documentary on Fentanyl. They say 1.5mg could kill someone on their first try, but abusers buy tabelets up to 5mgs each and they say that's a large amount for a single pill. I haven't read every page of this thread, how does this information fit with what Prince took? It sounds pretty clear he has been abusing them for a long time, unless he was murdered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28rJqj-7pEY

1Sasha said:

1Sasha said:

I can remember almost 20 years ago trying to come up with a source for marijuana for a relative who had advanced cancer in case the drugs she was on for pain, etc., weren't working. She died before we nailed that down, but anyone can find anything anywhere. There had to be a go-between delivering the drugs to Prince. Had to be.

Did weed helped her?

(Damn the Summer Of Love. Damn the Jazz players. Damn all the Romantics.
I sure wish the pot high was the maximum tolerable.)

I'm still stuck on 80% of the illicit opiod users are American. And now suddenly there's these pills floating around with enough fentanyl to kill a herd of elephants dammed near with one dose. Drug overdoses are killing more than guns or heart disease.

morningsong said:

Valid point.

Its sad to me but I would rather think that PRince did this shit by himself (out of shame) than involved his friends who willingly did what he wanted with no concern for him. I think Kirk might have found out and tried to offer a safer (and private) alternative-- legit pain pills under his name.

Also another point. Prince had no surveillance in paisley that night. He could have just turned it off himself because he was meeting someone who was giving him more pills. Kirk probably should have asked more questions but Prince might have kept him pretty busy and moving around. Perpetual motion kind of thing.

moonsister said:

1Sasha said:

I can remember almost 20 years ago trying to come up with a source for marijuana for a relative who had advanced cancer in case the drugs she was on for pain, etc., weren't working. She died before we nailed that down, but anyone can find anything anywhere. There had to be a go-between delivering the drugs to Prince. Had to be.

You can go to places and rent a mailbox, not an official post office box, but just a place to get mail if you don't want it going to your house. I don't know the rental regulations but if Prince had one and sent Kirk in to pick up his mail, and Kirk picked up his mail and didn't ask questions, just handed over the mail, is it Kirk's job to grill Prince about what's inside this box, boss? There are so many possibilities for a smart man like Prince to get drugs, housewives get them!

Since we are talking about this here in this thread: https://www.nytimes.com/a...e&_r=0

And here's another article on some more disturbing news: http://www.emsworld.com/n...in-indiana

Mumio said:

And here's another article on some more disturbing news: http://www.emsworld.com/n...in-indiana

That is very alarming.

A few decades ago, heroin was someting you would get in the city's dirtiest neighborhood, hidden in some alley, from a guy who prefered anonymity.

Now the shit is mass produced by world companies located in top-notch buildings, in the most expensive business districts, publicly traded on the DJ and NASDAQ, by guys who... prefer anonimity.

Sure was a hell of a trick, cuz I didn't see it coming.

This is just crime out in open, and (almost) nothing happens.
Plus, not only these people are animals, they're the dumbest CEOs in history.

To kill their own customers, now that's a short-sighted business plan if I ever saw one.
No wonder plot theories abound. People have all the rights to be paranoid (did you get your pill to cure that?). I'm not, but sometimes, "I Wonder".

TrevorAyer said:

The medical industry is the number one cause of death in america ... they k ep you sick till you die ... depopulation is real ... they make money keeping you sick ... they are very much the concentration camp of america ... using people as experiments ... performing proceedures you don't need .. giving you drugs that will and do kill you ... if you are on pain pills it means you are not allowing your body to heal ... instead you want to act normal as if you are not injured so you take the pills ... they numb your pain .. then you re injure yourself since you feel no pain .. it never heals and you are now in more pain then before and up tour dosage ... get off the pills ... slow the fuck down and let your body heal ..or be a junkie and die ... mds are murderers ... americans are too dumb to question that sick looking man in a white coat ... as if these doctors are anything more than drug pushers ... they are not there for your ur health ... period ... people need to be smarter than their television set if they want to survive

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I disagree. It's not the medical industry itself, it's bad people and poor healthcare and uneducated people who put their lives in the hands of the wrong people (medical professionals).

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Blame big pharma and all the corruption in our governement and the lack of good, affordable healthcare.

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Not all doctor's are bad; you just have to educate yourself and know your body and you have the right to say "no" to prescription drugs, if you feel you don't need them. If you have a pill-pushing doctor, go find another doctor who really cares and is not just there for a paycheck.

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[Edited 6/7/17 14:01pm]

PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

And here's another article on some more disturbing news: http://www.emsworld.com/n...in-indiana

That is very alarming.

remember when the government put crack in the low income neighborhoods??? now this will be more effective

coldasice said: