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Reply #660 posted 06/12/17 7:43pm

moonsister

PennyPurple said:

I get it Laura. By your own words, no on can have invasive surgery and not have pain medication. Right? It's all good, unless it's Mayte who has the invasive surgery, and then she shouldn't be allowed to come home with pain medication.


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And another thing, you have the epidural when you are having the baby or a C-Section, you can't take the epidural home with you..... rolleyes And it's a lower epidural. The higher eidural would be for the shoulder and neck, and you still can't take it home with you.


By some accounts Laura isn't even a woman so she/he would have no idea what it is to have major surgery then have to care for a newborn. Might account for the ugly misogyny also.
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Reply #661 posted 06/12/17 7:51pm

phatphuk



cloveringold85 said:

sonshine said:

Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.

.

It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.





What're your thoughts on people like Van Jones and his work with Advocates For Opioid Recovery?



Do you think it's a bad thing if somebody like Van Jones talks about Prince's accidental overdose when he's rallying to recruit more advocates for opioid recovery?





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Reply #662 posted 06/12/17 8:29pm

sonshine

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laurarichardson said:



cloveringold85 said:




sonshine said:


Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.

.


It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.




I read an article today in the Washington Post Express and his name was not mentioned at all.
So all you people who want his connected to the pain epidemic your wishes may not happen.


I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #663 posted 06/12/17 8:48pm

moonsister

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:



cloveringold85 said:




sonshine said:


Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.

.


It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.




I read an article today in the Washington Post Express and his name was not mentioned at all.
So all you people who want his connected to the pain epidemic your wishes may not happen.


I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

yeahthat
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Reply #664 posted 06/12/17 9:30pm

DD55

moonsister said:

sonshine said:
I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.
yeahthat

Sonshine: well said. Thank you.

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Reply #665 posted 06/12/17 11:36pm

sonshine

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phatphuk said:





cloveringold85 said:




sonshine said:


Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.



.


It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.









What're your thoughts on people like Van Jones and his work with Advocates For Opioid Recovery?





Do you think it's a bad thing if somebody like Van Jones talks about Prince's accidental overdose when he's rallying to recruit more advocates for opioid recovery?








Ignore d'Ignint®…I Warsh Myself With A Rag On A Stick!


Not sure who you are asking but to your second question - No, I do not think it's a bad thing.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #666 posted 06/12/17 11:38pm

sonshine

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DD55 said:



moonsister said:


sonshine said:
I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

yeahthat

Sonshine: well said. Thank you.


You're welcome. And thank you both for the support wink grouphug
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #667 posted 06/13/17 1:58am

laurarichardso
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moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

I get it Laura. By your own words, no on can have invasive surgery and not have pain medication. Right? It's all good, unless it's Mayte who has the invasive surgery, and then she shouldn't be allowed to come home with pain medication.


.


And another thing, you have the epidural when you are having the baby or a C-Section, you can't take the epidural home with you..... rolleyes And it's a lower epidural. The higher eidural would be for the shoulder and neck, and you still can't take it home with you.


By some accounts Laura isn't even a woman so she/he would have no idea what it is to have major surgery then have to care for a newborn. Might account for the ugly misogyny also.

--Did you miss your meds today?
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Reply #668 posted 06/13/17 2:00am

laurarichardso
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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:



cloveringold85 said:




sonshine said:


Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.

.


It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.




I read an article today in the Washington Post Express and his name was not mentioned at all.
So all you people who want his connected to the pain epidemic your wishes may not happen.


I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

--/His last gift to the world was his music. If you do not know that why are you here?
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Reply #669 posted 06/13/17 3:56am

Purplestar88

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

I read an article today in the Washington Post Express and his name was not mentioned at all.
So all you people who want his connected to the pain epidemic your wishes may not happen.

I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

It sad in a way because we still don't know all the details surrounding his death and people feel the need to label him without much details. It is not right to single out a person for their opinion. People have drag Prince though the mud over the years and I did not see anyone telling them they cast a dark and ugly cloud on Prince. neutral

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Reply #670 posted 06/13/17 4:10am

Laydown

Nobody knows much about his death or the investigation. Theres no point in us going in circles about it. We r all here for the same reason,WE LOVE PRINCE. I sit in my room thinking about the Moline incident,maybe that was the sign we all missed. He needed help then.he got it. Then theres the phone call to the doctor the night before he died. He was seeking help. By the time the doctors son arrived Prince was dead. They say he was deceased for 6 hours. And he died alone.

..................................................................

'I know I shouldnt put my faith in heroes,but I cant c u any other way'

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Reply #671 posted 06/13/17 4:19am

1Sasha

And his three versus three heirs can't agree on a damn thing, further hindering the promotion of his true legacy, which is his music.

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Reply #672 posted 06/13/17 4:29am

PennyPurple

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laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:
By some accounts Laura isn't even a woman so she/he would have no idea what it is to have major surgery then have to care for a newborn. Might account for the ugly misogyny also.
--Did you miss your meds today?

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

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Reply #673 posted 06/13/17 4:35am

laurarichardso
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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said: --Did you miss your meds today?

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

No, I gave a good long response to you. Your friend is too ignorant for me to waste my time on.

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Reply #674 posted 06/13/17 4:47am

Laydown

1Sasha said:

And his three versus three heirs can't agree on a damn thing, further hindering the promotion of his true legacy, which is his music.

Im sorry to say this,but its gonna be a long wait for us fans. His family and anyone else involved is looking for $,not the perpetuity of a fantastic music legacy.

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Reply #675 posted 06/13/17 4:49am

laurarichardso
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1Sasha said:

And his three versus three heirs can't agree on a damn thing, further hindering the promotion of his true legacy, which is his music.

Well 3 of them have common sense and if they laid down and went along I could only imagine that things could be worst.

Now even the judge is throwing shade at Londell. I am glad that Omarr, Alfred and Tyka are not going along with SNJ.

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Reply #676 posted 06/13/17 5:47am

1Sasha

I have to say I didn't like Tyka's song/video. Too much of her. I mean, really? JMO

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Reply #677 posted 06/13/17 6:22am

LOVESYMBOLNUMB
ER2

PennyPurple said:



laurarichardson said:


moonsister said:
By some accounts Laura isn't even a woman so she/he would have no idea what it is to have major surgery then have to care for a newborn. Might account for the ugly misogyny also.

--Did you miss your meds today?

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.






You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaayyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side
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Reply #678 posted 06/13/17 6:30am

disch

+1 for Sonshine.

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The first time I ever heard of fentanyl was in Prince's autopsy report -- and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I then looked into it and learned a whole lot about the opioid epidemic in general, and the major issue of deadly fentanyl contamination of other less-potent illegal opioids specifically.

-

I think those who don't want Prince's name mentioned in discussions of the opioid epidemic feel that those all those other 50,000 Americans dying per year are (to use some of the words used here) "pill-popping" "junkies" who take drugs "for shits and giggles" and are "stoned off their asses" 24/7. Not one of those people have a thing in common with Prince's situation, I guess.

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

I read an article today in the Washington Post Express and his name was not mentioned at all.
So all you people who want his connected to the pain epidemic your wishes may not happen.

I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

[Edited 6/13/17 6:32am]

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Reply #679 posted 06/13/17 6:32am

laurarichardso
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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

Thank you. I do not think Prince was some angel with wings coming out of his backside but I do not think it is cool to defame someone who is not around to defend themselves and to just do it to get a check.

He could have dragged his ex-wives in the media if he wanted to but he did not do it. He moved on with this life. He was a private person concerning his divorces to these women and no matter what went down you don't do what this chick is doing.

There is a wealth of info about this women's lies and some of the people she associates with are just awful but many of us orgers who know this stuff do not even post it. I am being told to be quite when I could post some stuff that would really make her look bad.

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Reply #680 posted 06/13/17 6:40am

laurarichardso
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Knock it off. You have enough sense to know everyone's stituation is different and that the mainstream media could less about Prince's health issues or anyone eles's for that matter. A lot of the problem with these meds is the fault of greedy pharma companies yet I do not see a whole lot of articles about that aspect of this issues.

Making Prince the poster boy for pain pills negates every other accompolishment he had in his life because if Van Jones and others were not discussing his charity projects and associates were not discussing his business or music you would not see any of this in the media at all.

More to this guy then a pill popper and you are being very naive if you think the media means well when they insert his name into this epidimic. It is not being done to be well meaning or to help anyone but for the purpose of generating revenue with sensational headlines.

disch said:

+1 for Sonshine.

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The first time I ever heard of fentanyl was in Prince's autopsy report -- and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I then looked into it and learned a whole lot about the opioid epidemic in general, and the major issue of deadly fentanyl contamination of other less-potent illegal opioids specifically.

-

I think those who don't want Prince's name mentioned in discussions of the opioid epidemic feel that those all those other 50,000 Americans dying per year are (to use some of the words used here) "pill-popping" "junkies" who take drugs "for shits and giggles" and are "stoned off their asses" 24/7. Not one of those people have a thing in common with Prince's situation, I guess.

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

[Edited 6/13/17 6:32am]

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Reply #681 posted 06/13/17 7:02am

moonsister

laurarichardson said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


PennyPurple said:


That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.



You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaayyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

Thank you. I do not think Prince was some angel with wings coming out of his backside but I do not think it is cool to defame someone who is not around to defend themselves and to just do it to get a check.



He could have dragged his ex-wives in the media if he wanted to but he did not do it. He moved on with this life. He was a private person concerning his divorces to these women and no matter what went down you don't do what this chick is doing.



There is a wealth of info about this women's lies and some of the people she associates with are just awful but many of us orgers who know this stuff do not even post it. I am being told to be quite when I could post some stuff that would really make her look bad.



There are a million and a half Mayte dragging threads, why are you doing it on the
Prince death investigation thread? Not even you think Mayte killed him. Or is that just part of the inside info you have? Ha ha!
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Reply #682 posted 06/13/17 7:08am

disch

Prince likely died due to illegal opioids made to look like standard prescription pain pills that that were actually laced with fatal fentanyl doses. This is a major problem killing many (thousands) of Americans, in addition to Prince, and it's being driven by the huge consumer demand for opioids (for all kinds of reasons) that is making it profitable for illegal drug manufacturers and distributors to push an increasingly deadly product.

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To me, it's perfectly reasonable and legitimate for reporters and analysts to discuss Prince's death when they're talking about these issues, and I have no doubt that Prince's death brought bigger public attention to this crisis. It helped bring mine.

laurarichardson said:

Knock it off. You have enough sense to know everyone's stituation is different and that the mainstream media could less about Prince's health issues or anyone eles's for that matter. A lot of the problem with these meds is the fault of greedy pharma companies yet I do not see a whole lot of articles about that aspect of this issues.

Making Prince the poster boy for pain pills negates every other accompolishment he had in his life because if Van Jones and others were not discussing his charity projects and associates were not discussing his business or music you would not see any of this in the media at all.

More to this guy then a pill popper and you are being very naive if you think the media means well when they insert his name into this epidimic. It is not being done to be well meaning or to help anyone but for the purpose of generating revenue with sensational headlines.

disch said:

+1 for Sonshine.

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The first time I ever heard of fentanyl was in Prince's autopsy report -- and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I then looked into it and learned a whole lot about the opioid epidemic in general, and the major issue of deadly fentanyl contamination of other less-potent illegal opioids specifically.

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I think those who don't want Prince's name mentioned in discussions of the opioid epidemic feel that those all those other 50,000 Americans dying per year are (to use some of the words used here) "pill-popping" "junkies" who take drugs "for shits and giggles" and are "stoned off their asses" 24/7. Not one of those people have a thing in common with Prince's situation, I guess.

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Reply #683 posted 06/13/17 7:45am

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Agree with you, LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2. I lurked for awhile before I registered, but Laura has been here for a loooonnnng time and is, and has always been, here for Prince.

For the following statement alone, that she posted earlier on this thread, I understand her:

His last gift to the world was his music. If you do not know that why are you here?

Like her or not, agree with her or not, she knows why she's here, and IMHO, why we should all be on Prince.org. Laura's here for Prince, flaws and all.


LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

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Reply #684 posted 06/13/17 7:48am

1Sasha

Well said!

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Reply #685 posted 06/13/17 7:49am

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

She's been Prince's person? When did Prince put Laura in charge and to be his voice? LMAO lol If Laura knew what she was talking about, it would be one thing, but generally she just acts like everythings she says are facts, and that is not true. And I will keep calling her out on it too. She does not state the facts. She says one thing, and then when she thinks everyone has forgotten what she says, she states something different, and then argues with you till our faces turn blue, calls us names and her standard response, when she's back into a corner......"Did you miss your meds today".....Truly forgetting that she is the one in dire need of medication.

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laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said: You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

Thank you. I do not think Prince was some angel with wings coming out of his backside but I do not think it is cool to defame someone who is not around to defend themselves and to just do it to get a check.

He could have dragged his ex-wives in the media if he wanted to but he did not do it. He moved on with this life. He was a private person concerning his divorces to these women and no matter what went down you don't do what this chick is doing.

There is a wealth of info about this women's lies and some of the people she associates with are just awful but many of us orgers who know this stuff do not even post it. I am being told to be quite when I could post some stuff that would really make her look bad.

You defame Mayte and many other's here, every.single.day.......

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Reply #687 posted 06/13/17 7:53am

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sonshine said:

phatphuk said:

cloveringold85 said:

sonshine said:

Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.

It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.

What're your thoughts on people like Van Jones and his work with Advocates For Opioid Recovery?



Do you think it's a bad thing if somebody like Van Jones talks about Prince's accidental overdose when he's rallying to recruit more advocates for opioid recovery?

Not sure who you are asking but to your second question - No, I do not think it's a bad thing.



Sorry sonshine. I thought it was obvious to whom my reply was addressed.



Whatsamatta, cloveringShellyDuvallold85? Bat gotta U tongue?







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Reply #688 posted 06/13/17 7:59am

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

By some accounts Laura isn't even a woman so she/he would have no idea what it is to have major surgery then have to care for a newborn. Might account for the ugly misogyny also.

--Did you miss your meds today?

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaayyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side



Jesus Christ on a motorcycle! HaHaHaHaHa! Now I've heard everything!



Your assertion begs the question: How did our saintly L0 earn this "degree" in Princeoloy? By stalking Prince's ex-wives and girlfriends on Fakebook? By making a career out of spending every waking second of the past 17 years posting 24×7×365 non-stop on prince.org?



Only in the topsy-turvy, 8-time-8-times-9-is-four, pretzel-logic world of fantasy does that kind of pathological behavior get praised and rewarded. HaHaHaHaHa!



If you accept that L0 knows more than you yourself LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2, then fair enough. But you can only speak for yourself, hun.



Now I get why L0 is always ranting about this site being mayte.org. She's campaigning to have it renamed after herself: La-La Land.







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Reply #689 posted 06/13/17 8:25am

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DD55 said:

moonsister said:

sonshine said: yeahthat

Sonshine: well said. Thank you.

BRAVO!

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