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Reply #600 posted 06/11/17 3:38pm

cloveringold85

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

Nope, not media's fault. Evidently the family is ok with this narrative, because they haven't released anything to the contrary.

The family has been silent on all things said about his death sad The media should stop as they do not have any more info than we do and have speculated as if it was all true...

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Tyka has said some things on her Twitter and FB about the things people say, but she was very vague about it. Legally, there is nothing Prince's family can do about what the media is publishing. You can't sue for defamation when a person is deceased. Of course it's the media's fault -- they are the one's spinning such nonsense and people buy into it.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #601 posted 06/11/17 3:58pm

cloveringold85

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PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said: The family has been silent on all things said about his death sad The media should stop as they do not have any more info than we do and have speculated as if it was all true...

And if they'd let it out, then there wouldn't be any of this speculation, evidently they are fine with it.

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Perhaps they are not allowed to discuss anything due to the ongoing investigation? confused

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #602 posted 06/11/17 4:00pm

Purplestar88

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said: The family has been silent on all things said about his death sad The media should stop as they do not have any more info than we do and have speculated as if it was all true...

And if they'd let it out, then there wouldn't be any of this speculation, evidently they are fine with it.

Just because they have not commet about the speculation surrounding his death does that mean they are ok with what people are saying. It could be many reasons why they are not talking. The investigation alone could be a reason. I sometime wonder if the family knew anything about his issues at all. At the end on the day people are going to believe what they want to believe no matter what family says. Prince is more than what he died of of.

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Reply #603 posted 06/11/17 5:50pm

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cloveringold85 said:



laurarichardson said:


Bodhitheblackdog said:


HA! OMG...what a great rejoinder... lol



She would not need know pain pills for weeks after a C-section. I have had major surgery with a high incision and gallbladder surgery were I was sent home with pain pills and trust me it was a small supply with no refills. I believe she needed them and could have been abusing them. I am sorry this women is human and is capable of using drugs just like anyone else.

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My husband also had to have gallbadder surgery 2-years ago and the doctor gave him pills for pain, but he only took like 1 pill and did not take the rest of them. Women have c-sections all the time and I would imagine that regular Tylenol or Advil would help ease any discomfort for a few days.




Of course a Tylenol would be fine for a C-section I was given a Percocet and I mean one and I did not even need it. I believe Mayte was suffering from post partum depression so I do not think it is too hard to believe that she may have been abusing.
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Reply #604 posted 06/11/17 6:41pm

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Of course a Tylenol would be fine for a C-section I was given a Percocet and I mean one and I did not even need it. I believe Mayte was suffering from post partum depression so I do not think it is too hard to believe that she may have been abusing.

OMG. Laura. Make up your mind. Why is it ok for P to have surgery and have a pain prescription but not for Mayte to have a pain prescription after a MAJOR Surgery? Surgery is invasive.......

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I've had 3 C-Sections and they gave me pain pills to last for 2 weeks. Mayte has already said that some of her pain pills would come up missing........

laurarichardson said:

If he had physical injuries and surgery he would have to take drugs. No one can have an invasive surgery and not have pain medication.

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Reply #605 posted 06/11/17 7:21pm

moonsister

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:



laurarichardson said:


Bodhitheblackdog said:


HA! OMG...what a great rejoinder... lol



She would not need know pain pills for weeks after a C-section. I have had major surgery with a high incision and gallbladder surgery were I was sent home with pain pills and trust me it was a small supply with no refills. I believe she needed them and could have been abusing them. I am sorry this women is human and is capable of using drugs just like anyone else.

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My husband also had to have gallbadder surgery 2-years ago and the doctor gave him pills for pain, but he only took like 1 pill and did not take the rest of them. Women have c-sections all the time and I would imagine that regular Tylenol or Advil would help ease any discomfort for a few days.




Of course a Tylenol would be fine for a C-section I was given a Percocet and I mean one and I did not even need it. I believe Mayte was suffering from post partum depression so I do not think it is too hard to believe that she may have been abusing.



Whoa Tonto, there is no evidence of that and unless you have receipts [Snip - luv4u].
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Reply #606 posted 06/11/17 8:12pm

Laydown

Its no wonder why P wanted this site shut down.

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Reply #607 posted 06/11/17 8:26pm

DD55

Laydown said:

Its no wonder why P wanted this site shut down.

Laydown, I'm starting to totally agree.

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Oh good gosh! Could we all stop with the ‘I had, I needed, I took’ comments! We are all different at different times of our lives, depending on where we are, how healthy we feel and what’s going on in our lives.
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No one can really compare themselves to anyone else in the same or equal situation even with the same medical condition.
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At the risk of contradicting myself, i’ve had two children with one child I had an epidural and I took Tylenol w/ Codeine for at least a full week to ten days after the birth, with the other birth it was completely natural, I had a midwife, and didn’t as much as take a Tylenol. Go figure. Different mindset, preparedness, health, awareness, time of day (one was afternoon and i was well rested, the other 8am where I was up all night and tired), etc.
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We have to stop with the comparisons of ‘what we did’ or 'what we took,' etc. at any particular time. It all depends on how well we were prepared, how healthy we were prior to the medical incident and numerous other factors. So what one person needs at one particular time of an illness is not necessarily what another needs/wants.
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So please, we have to stop making judgments about another people and comparing what we think is appropriate in a similar situation, because we simply don't know what was going on in their lives or how they were/felt at the time or the circumstances. JMHO ~~DD55

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Reply #608 posted 06/11/17 8:47pm

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Agree with you both^^
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Reply #609 posted 06/12/17 1:40am

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:


Of course a Tylenol would be fine for a C-section I was given a Percocet and I mean one and I did not even need it. I believe Mayte was suffering from post partum depression so I do not think it is too hard to believe that she may have been abusing.



Whoa Tonto, there is no evidence of that and unless you have receipts [Snip - luv4u].

--Of course I have no evidence but she is the one describing her behavior. I can use some reasoning just like some of you have decided with not even a word out Prince's mouth that he was happy playing music day and night. There is no evidence to support this or even that he was a life long drug user but it does not stop some people on this board.
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Reply #610 posted 06/12/17 1:43am

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PennyPurple said:



laurarichardson said:


Of course a Tylenol would be fine for a C-section I was given a Percocet and I mean one and I did not even need it. I believe Mayte was suffering from post partum depression so I do not think it is too hard to believe that she may have been abusing.

OMG. Laura. Make up your mind. Why is it ok for P to have surgery and have a pain prescription but not for Mayte to have a pain prescription after a MAJOR Surgery? Surgery is invasive.....


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I've had 3 C-Sections and they gave me pain pills to last for 2 weeks. Mayte has already said that some of her pain pills would come up missing.....





laurarichardson said:


If he had physical injuries and surgery he would have to take drugs. No one can have an invasive surgery and not have pain medication.


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I did not say it was not okay for her to have them I said there is a possibility that she was abusing them. I love how you make this women out to be infallible. Prince was of course abusing his meds but it is impossible that she was? Think about how ridiculous that sounds as she is a person capable of abusing her meds like anyone else. In fact I do not understand why anyone would be down on either one of them if they were abusing meds or drinking. They lost their child and then those two stupid nannies tried to sell the baby pics to the tabloids and Prince was accused of killing the child. I would have been living in a Rum bottle if it was me in that situation.
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Reply #611 posted 06/12/17 4:22am

Laydown

Tyka. Talking about Prince https://www.youtube.com/w...R7DfgrdoqY

0.38 seconds in listen to what Tyka says

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'I know I shouldnt put my faith in heroes,but I cant c u any other way' RIP P

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Reply #612 posted 06/12/17 4:45am

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

I did not say it was not okay for her to have them I said there is a possibility that she was abusing them. I love how you make this women out to be infallible. Prince was of course abusing his meds but it is impossible that she was? Think about how ridiculous that as she is a person capable of abusing her meds like anyone else. In fact I do not understand why anyone would be down on either one of them if they were abusing meds or drinking. They lost their child and then those two stupid nannies tried to sell the baby pics to the tabloids and Prince was accused of killing the child. I would have been living in a Rum bottle if it was me in that situation. [Edited 6/12/17 4:41am]

NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why they would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.

[Edited 6/12/17 4:50am]

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Reply #613 posted 06/12/17 5:02am

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: I did not say it was not okay for her to have them I said there is a possibility that she was abusing them. I love how you make this women out to be infallible. Prince was of course abusing his meds but it is impossible that she was? Think about how ridiculous that as she is a person capable of abusing her meds like anyone else. In fact I do not understand why anyone would be down on either one of them if they were abusing meds or drinking. They lost their child and then those two stupid nannies tried to sell the baby pics to the tabloids and Prince was accused of killing the child. I would have been living in a Rum bottle if it was me in that situation. [Edited 6/12/17 4:41am]

NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why she would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.

I do not have a selective memory. I even say on t his thread I do not think she needed know weeks supply of pain meds. I even said I got one pill and another person said they only received a few. I think you get more if you ask for more and I am doubting she needed them for weeks and I have never and will never back down from that thought.

Here it is again for you so you get in in your head.

1) I do not think Mayte needed weeks of pain pills. ( Obvisouly she had more than a few days supply if she was taking them at home)

2) I think she abused the meds she received.

3) I think from her own comments she had post partum depression and medicated with those pills.

4) I find it odd that some of you think it is okay for her to have a supply of pain pills for a C-Section which is not anywhere near as invasive as any joint pain surgery but chastise Prince as abusing pills for grins and laughs.

5) I have had two kids and two very invasive surgeries and I did not get a big supply of pain meds for the C-section compared to what I received for the two surgeries.( In fact Gallbladder surgery you are put out of the hospital the same day and my supply of pills was small with no refill. I know other people who have had C-Section who did not get a big supply of pain pills to take home. I find her comments about it to be suspect and that is my opinion.

I hope this was clear enough for you and maybe one day you will actually answer my questions which are far from idiotic.

Why do you think that women is incapable of tellling tall tales to put money in her pocket, in capable of having abused pills or just some angel with wings flying out of her backside? Because to me that is idiotic.

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Reply #614 posted 06/12/17 6:10am

moonsister

PennyPurple said:



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:






I did not say it was not okay for her to have them I said there is a possibility that she was abusing them. I love how you make this women out to be infallible. Prince was of course abusing his meds but it is impossible that she was? Think about how ridiculous that as she is a person capable of abusing her meds like anyone else. In fact I do not understand why anyone would be down on either one of them if they were abusing meds or drinking. They lost their child and then those two stupid nannies tried to sell the baby pics to the tabloids and Prince was accused of killing the child. I would have been living in a Rum bottle if it was me in that situation. [Edited 6/12/17 4:41am]

NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why they would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.

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This is all a game to Laura, her statements get more and more ridiculous until she finally brings up race issues then she starts all over again. The word addiction triggers her so we need to either ignore her or use the word dependence, then she doesn't get triggered.
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Reply #615 posted 06/12/17 7:32am

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moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why they would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.

[Edited 6/12/17 4:50am]

This is all a game to Laura, her statements get more and more ridiculous until she finally brings up race issues then she starts all over again. The word addiction triggers her so we need to either ignore her or use the word dependence, then she doesn't get triggered.

Come back when you learn to read. I have provided bullet points so it should be easy. Please also see below dependency.

Physical Dependence

In short a physical dependence to opioids means that the body relies on a external source of opioids to prevent withdrawal. Physical dependence is predictable, easily managed with medication, and is ultimately resolved with a slow taper off of the opioid.

Normally, the body is able to produce enough endogenous opioids (example: endorphins) to prevent withdrawal. But as tolerance increases, eventually the body's ability to maintain this equilibrium is exceeded and the body becomes dependent on that external source.

Many substances - such as caffeine, nicotine, sugar, anti-depressants, to name a few - can cause physical dependence, it is not a property unique to opioids. Physical dependence to opioids is normal and expected and a distraction from the real problem, addiction.

Physical dependence is sometimes simply calleddependence, but this can lead to confusion because addiction is sometimes called dependence as well.

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Reply #616 posted 06/12/17 7:32am

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moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why they would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.

[Edited 6/12/17 4:50am]

This is all a game to Laura, her statements get more and more ridiculous until she finally brings up race issues then she starts all over again. The word addiction triggers her so we need to either ignore her or use the word dependence, then she doesn't get triggered.

Have you learned to read a court document yet?

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Reply #617 posted 06/12/17 8:01am

moonsister

laurarichardson said:



moonsister said:


PennyPurple said:


NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why they would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.


[Edited 6/12/17 4:50am]



This is all a game to Laura, her statements get more and more ridiculous until she finally brings up race issues then she starts all over again. The word addiction triggers her so we need to either ignore her or use the word dependence, then she doesn't get triggered.

Have you learned to read a court document yet?


You plan on suing me?
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Reply #618 posted 06/12/17 8:06am

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Have you learned to read a court document yet?

You plan on suing me?

No, you do not remember not understanding the court docs. Get that memory checked

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Reply #619 posted 06/12/17 8:13am

moonsister

laurarichardson said:



moonsister said:


laurarichardson said:


Have you learned to read a court document yet?



You plan on suing me?

No, you do not remember not understanding the court docs. Get that memory checked


I'm just sorry I called you Tonto when I could've called you Trigger.
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Reply #620 posted 06/12/17 8:28am

1Sasha

I think we can all agree that there was use of drugs - what we can't agree on is how far back that use (might have been off and on) went because we just don't know. No one is saying he took anything to get high or for kicks; there seems to have been an emotional and/or physical need to medicate. Something in the past couple of years seems to have triggered this use to a point where illicit drugs were procured. Who, what, when, where ... the usual questions are still unanswered. But his little body and emaciated appearance nearing the end certainly signify medical change(s) IMO.

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Reply #621 posted 06/12/17 8:30am

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

No, you do not remember not understanding the court docs. Get that memory checked

I'm just sorry I called you Tonto when I could've called you Trigger.

I love the avoidence

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Reply #622 posted 06/12/17 8:33am

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1Sasha said:

I think we can all agree that there was use of drugs - what we can't agree on is how far back that use (might have been off and on) went because we just don't know. No one is saying he took anything to get high or for kicks; there seems to have been an emotional and/or physical need to medicate. Something in the past couple of years seems to have triggered this use to a point where illicit drugs were procured. Who, what, when, where ... the usual questions are still unanswered. But his little body and emaciated appearance nearing the end certainly signify medical change(s) IMO.

Exactly, althought I think there are people who do think it was for grins and giggles because you see very little discussion about even the health issues we do have some proof of.

Like joint pain. They simply do not take any health issues into consideration at all.

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Reply #623 posted 06/12/17 8:41am

1Sasha

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I think we can all agree that there was use of drugs - what we can't agree on is how far back that use (might have been off and on) went because we just don't know. No one is saying he took anything to get high or for kicks; there seems to have been an emotional and/or physical need to medicate. Something in the past couple of years seems to have triggered this use to a point where illicit drugs were procured. Who, what, when, where ... the usual questions are still unanswered. But his little body and emaciated appearance nearing the end certainly signify medical change(s) IMO.

Exactly, althought I think there are people who do think it was for grins and giggles because you see very little discussion about even the health issues we do have some proof of.

Like joint pain. They simply do not take any health issues into consideration at all.

That is so true. Every person I have spoken about this with, off of the org or on FB, thinks he was a closeted "I wanna get high" drug addict/"clean living" hypocrite versus someone who had a real medical need for help.

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Reply #624 posted 06/12/17 8:58am

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1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

Exactly, althought I think there are people who do think it was for grins and giggles because you see very little discussion about even the health issues we do have some proof of.

Like joint pain. They simply do not take any health issues into consideration at all.

That is so true. Every person I have spoken about this with, off of the org or on FB, thinks he was a closeted "I wanna get high" drug addict/"clean living" hypocrite versus someone who had a real medical need for help.

See that is what I mean. The thing is I could fully see Prince telling the world via his music that he was a dope head and making it plain. This guy wrote a song about sleeping with his sister and did interviews implying it was true. Why would he not be honest about drug addiction I mean getting high for kicks.

Why bother with all the vegetarian stuff or even bother with being a JW? Why fire people for using drugs and why would people who worked for him not have dozens of stories about him being high out of his ass especially if he was being a hypocrite about it. Instead you have dozens of people saying the exact opposite and sticking with their story despite the fact that estates cannot sue for defamation.

I think sometimes people forget how many people he pissed off the first 20 years of his carreer. If some one wanted to put that type of stuff out about him they would have been doing it 30 years ago when he was selling millions of records. He certainly had enough people pissed back then.

It does not make any sense at all.

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Reply #625 posted 06/12/17 9:47am

Bassette

Something I wondered about this opoïd epidemic in America: Is every fentanyl-related death treated like a homicide? If It's not, it means police/ or law inforcement, whatever, must have found serious clues to actually call this a homicide( investigation) . Not that I didn't Read about stacked pills, but I think there have to Be more clues- we don't know about.
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Reply #626 posted 06/12/17 10:00am

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I guess she wouldn't have needed to get weeks of pain pills, had her husband not have been taking hers.....

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

NO Laura, again...you did say that she didn't need the pain pills and don't know why she would've even been sent home with her. That is exactly what you said on the Mayte thread that had been deleted. Everyone jumped down your throat about it, too. You seem to have a selective memory & now you're back tracking. You make these idiotic statements, and think that nobody remembers what you really said.

I do not have a selective memory. I even say on t his thread I do not think she needed know weeks supply of pain meds. I even said I got one pill and another person said they only received a few. I think you get more if you ask for more and I am doubting she needed them for weeks and I have never and will never back down from that thought.

Here it is again for you so you get in in your head.

1) I do not think Mayte needed weeks of pain pills. ( Obvisouly she had more than a few days supply if she was taking them at home)

2) I think she abused the meds she received.

3) I think from her own comments she had post partum depression and medicated with those pills.

4) I find it odd that some of you think it is okay for her to have a supply of pain pills for a C-Section which is not anywhere near as invasive as any joint pain surgery but chastise Prince as abusing pills for grins and laughs.

5) I have had two kids and two very invasive surgeries and I did not get a big supply of pain meds for the C-section compared to what I received for the two surgeries.( In fact Gallbladder surgery you are put out of the hospital the same day and my supply of pills was small with no refill. I know other people who have had C-Section who did not get a big supply of pain pills to take home. I find her comments about it to be suspect and that is my opinion.

I hope this was clear enough for you and maybe one day you will actually answer my questions which are far from idiotic.

Why do you think that women is incapable of tellling tall tales to put money in her pocket, in capable of having abused pills or just some angel with wings flying out of her backside? Because to me that is idiotic.

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Reply #627 posted 06/12/17 10:32am

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Bassette said:

Something I wondered about this opoïd epidemic in America: Is every fentanyl-related death treated like a homicide? If It's not, it means police/ or law inforcement, whatever, must have found serious clues to actually call this a homicide( investigation) . Not that I didn't Read about stacked pills, but I think there have to Be more clues- we don't know about.

No not all deaths are being investigated as an homicide. I am sure they have info we are not privy to that has placed the investigation into homicide terriotry.

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Reply #628 posted 06/12/17 10:34am

1Sasha

Bassette said:

Something I wondered about this opoïd epidemic in America: Is every fentanyl-related death treated like a homicide? If It's not, it means police/ or law inforcement, whatever, must have found serious clues to actually call this a homicide( investigation) . Not that I didn't Read about stacked pills, but I think there have to Be more clues- we don't know about.

I don't know what they do. Maybe the best they can do - if any pills are lying around the body - is to take the pills and analyze them to see if such a batch showed up elsewhere.

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Reply #629 posted 06/12/17 10:35am

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We do not know if her husband took any of her pills and in fact she does not even know if he took any.

I am saying she did not need to take a large quanity of pills home in the first place and if she had not taken a quanity home she would not be confused about where they went.

If you are going to make an accusation be fucking factual. Which she is not. Must have been all that hoku smoking and drunk youtube video filming.

PennyPurple said:

I guess she wouldn't have needed to get weeks of pain pills, had her husband not have been taking hers.....

laurarichardson said:

I do not have a selective memory. I even say on t his thread I do not think she needed know weeks supply of pain meds. I even said I got one pill and another person said they only received a few. I think you get more if you ask for more and I am doubting she needed them for weeks and I have never and will never back down from that thought.

Here it is again for you so you get in in your head.

1) I do not think Mayte needed weeks of pain pills. ( Obvisouly she had more than a few days supply if she was taking them at home)

2) I think she abused the meds she received.

3) I think from her own comments she had post partum depression and medicated with those pills.

4) I find it odd that some of you think it is okay for her to have a supply of pain pills for a C-Section which is not anywhere near as invasive as any joint pain surgery but chastise Prince as abusing pills for grins and laughs.

5) I have had two kids and two very invasive surgeries and I did not get a big supply of pain meds for the C-section compared to what I received for the two surgeries.( In fact Gallbladder surgery you are put out of the hospital the same day and my supply of pills was small with no refill. I know other people who have had C-Section who did not get a big supply of pain pills to take home. I find her comments about it to be suspect and that is my opinion.

I hope this was clear enough for you and maybe one day you will actually answer my questions which are far from idiotic.

Why do you think that women is incapable of tellling tall tales to put money in her pocket, in capable of having abused pills or just some angel with wings flying out of her backside? Because to me that is idiotic.

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