laurarichardson said:

There is an article in The New York Times today about drug deaths in America, with Fentanyl and Carfentanil (a Fentanyl "analogue") the primary death causes. In some cases, EMTs have used 12-14 hits of Narcan to bring people back, to no avail.

This is so weird. What's the story on this woman? Was she involved with Prince? She sells gold cards and has pics of Prince on her twitter, FB, YT. She has a Prince Gold card you can buy. Is this legit? She's a poet and sells gold? Okay!

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Here, she is showing the Gold card with Prince's image on it, at 0:55.....

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https://www.youtube.com/w...73Og3XhMmE

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https://www.youtube.com/w...7_gA5bgcnY

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https://www.youtube.com/w...73Og3XhMmE

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Good article about pain and addiction.

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https://aleteia.org/2017/...m-of-pain/

1Sasha said:

There is an article in The New York Times today about drug deaths in America, with Fentanyl and Carfentanil (a Fentanyl "analogue") the primary death causes. In some cases, EMTs have used 12-14 hits of Narcan to bring people back, to no avail.

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Good God! This stuff is straight from the depths of hell!!

Clicked on your links, clover and the photo in the second one (where she's reading her poetry) looks like someone who used to post on the org. She had screenshots of messages from Prince (as A.Nevermind) that looked real. Her photo in the screenshot is the same one in YT link #2. I think she goes by Nancy Poetess on those shots.

I remember the screenshots were from the Prince knew he was dying thread.

I am truly terrible at posting links to old org threads, but you should be able to find it if you google her name...she went by THATGIRLTHANG. Does that ring a bell for you? I believe she is a French poetess that Prince worked with, and some of her posts sound like she is a JW.

As for the videos and the "self-portrait" of Prince on the Gold Card...well, she is unique.

cloveringold85 said:

This is so weird. What's the story on this woman? Was she involved with Prince? She sells gold cards and has pics of Prince on her twitter, FB, YT. She has a Prince Gold card you can buy. Is this legit? She's a poet and sells gold? Okay!

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Here, she is showing the Gold card with Prince's image on it, at 0:55.....

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https://www.youtube.com/w...73Og3XhMmE

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https://www.youtube.com/w...7_gA5bgcnY

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https://www.youtube.com/w...73Og3XhMmE

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stlmuziqlvr said:

Clicked on your links, clover and the photo in the second one (where she's reading her poetry) looks like someone who used to post on the org. She had screenshots of messages from Prince (as A.Nevermind) that looked real. Her photo in the screenshot is the same one in YT link #2. I think she goes by Nancy Poetess on those shots.

I remember the screenshots were from the Prince knew he was dying thread.

I am truly terrible at posting links to old org threads, but you should be able to find it if you google her name...she went by THATGIRLTHANG. Does that ring a bell for you? I believe she is a French poetess that Prince worked with, and some of her posts sound like she is a JW.

As for the videos and the "self-portrait" of Prince on the Gold Card...well, she is unique.

cloveringold85 said:

This is so weird. What's the story on this woman? Was she involved with Prince? She sells gold cards and has pics of Prince on her twitter, FB, YT. She has a Prince Gold card you can buy. Is this legit? She's a poet and sells gold? Okay!

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Here, she is showing the Gold card with Prince's image on it, at 0:55.....

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https://www.youtube.com/w...73Og3XhMmE

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https://www.youtube.com/w...7_gA5bgcnY

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https://www.youtube.com/w...73Og3XhMmE

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The second video, where she is reading poetry just sounds like something Prince would write.

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Yes, I googled all the info on Nancy Poetess, and ThatGirlThang, and was just trying to piece everything together. Is this the same woman who claimed she was romantically involved with Prince and they were to be married? Maybe it was just gossip.

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I just thought the Gold card with Prince on it was kinda eerie, being that Prince had made a statement before he died about investing in gold, and 800K in gold bars were found at his estate.

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The Minneapolis newspaper reports that Prince had in his possession at the time of his death 67 gold bars, each weighing 10 ounces. With the price of gold at $1,193 per ounce on Jan. 11, the total value of Prince's gold is around $800,000.

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http://www.coinworld.com/...s.all.html

I remember hearing that too...I think she suggested that they had been engaged at one time, but I don't remember where I heard it...probably here.

Agree with you that the gold card issue is creepy given his gold investments. I have not seen her around since last spring. I guess she's been busy making Prince gold cards.

cloveringold85 said:

stlmuziqlvr said:

Clicked on your links, clover and the photo in the second one (where she's reading her poetry) looks like someone who used to post on the org. She had screenshots of messages from Prince (as A.Nevermind) that looked real. Her photo in the screenshot is the same one in YT link #2. I think she goes by Nancy Poetess on those shots.

I remember the screenshots were from the Prince knew he was dying thread.

I am truly terrible at posting links to old org threads, but you should be able to find it if you google her name...she went by THATGIRLTHANG. Does that ring a bell for you? I believe she is a French poetess that Prince worked with, and some of her posts sound like she is a JW.

As for the videos and the "self-portrait" of Prince on the Gold Card...well, she is unique.

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The second video, where she is reading poetry just sounds like something Prince would write.

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Yes, I googled all the info on Nancy Poetess, and ThatGirlThang, and was just trying to piece everything together. Is this the same woman who claimed she was romantically involved with Prince and they were to be married? Maybe it was just gossip.

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I just thought the Gold card with Prince on it was kinda eerie, being that Prince had made a statement before he died about investing in gold, and 800K in gold bars were found at his estate.

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The Minneapolis newspaper reports that Prince had in his possession at the time of his death 67 gold bars, each weighing 10 ounces. With the price of gold at $1,193 per ounce on Jan. 11, the total value of Prince's gold is around $800,000.

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http://www.coinworld.com/...s.all.html

One other thought, remember this from her post , "I said I would fly out to Australia Shows....in a heart beat...he said no, put those money in gold instead girl, I need you to build me an empire when I return"

I wonder if this is what she's doing with the Gold card idea? Very strange.

stlmuziqlvr said:

I remember hearing that too...I think she suggested that they had been engaged at one time, but I don't remember where I heard it...probably here.

Agree with you that the gold card issue is creepy given his gold investments. I have not seen her around since last spring. I guess she's been busy making Prince gold cards.

cloveringold85 said:

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The second video, where she is reading poetry just sounds like something Prince would write.

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Yes, I googled all the info on Nancy Poetess, and ThatGirlThang, and was just trying to piece everything together. Is this the same woman who claimed she was romantically involved with Prince and they were to be married? Maybe it was just gossip.

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I just thought the Gold card with Prince on it was kinda eerie, being that Prince had made a statement before he died about investing in gold, and 800K in gold bars were found at his estate.

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The Minneapolis newspaper reports that Prince had in his possession at the time of his death 67 gold bars, each weighing 10 ounces. With the price of gold at $1,193 per ounce on Jan. 11, the total value of Prince's gold is around $800,000.

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http://www.coinworld.com/...s.all.html

stlmuziqlvr said:

One other thought, remember this from her post , "I said I would fly out to Australia Shows....in a heart beat...he said no, put those money in gold instead girl, I need you to build me an empire when I return"

I wonder if this is what she's doing with the Gold card idea? Very strange.

stlmuziqlvr said:

I remember hearing that too...I think she suggested that they had been engaged at one time, but I don't remember where I heard it...probably here.

Agree with you that the gold card issue is creepy given his gold investments. I have not seen her around since last spring. I guess she's been busy making Prince gold cards.

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Yes!! Exactly what I was thinking........kinda weird.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I have been saying this for a long time ... "Those people" - the ones who saw him everyday or nearly every day knew what was going on. They had to. And they put their paychecks and his privacy concerns apparently ahead of his health. There is an interview making the rounds with a Scottie Baldwin (I think I have the name right) who left Prince during the Australian P + A M tour. Prince begged him to come back and this fellow said he was glad he left because of what was happening (I am paraphrasing). He said he was the one who said "no." "No" to what he didn't say, but I think we can all guess what was going on. Anyone who looked at Prince - even on photos - those last six months had to know he was in trouble.

Yes, but Scottie did an interview with Dr. Funkenberry and he and Prince got into all the time. He had worked for Prince off and on for almost 30 years and he did say in the Podcast he fully expected to come back and work for him again. He had complained in the Funk podcast that Prince would often change the setlist at the last minute and go off if the sound was not right.

He may have left because he got tired of his demands. The truth of the matter is we know what he died from so no need for people to stick to their stories about never seeing him high. It is possible that he had an RX and a dependency on the pain pills and things had only recently taken a turn for the worst. I believe people when they say he they never saw him take drugs ( would he have been so stupid to do it in front of people? ) I believe Andrian Crutchfield when he said he never saw him hight in 3 years that he worked for him. I do not believe Prince was abusing pain pills for decades but I do believe something happend that caused him to excelerate his use of these meds and I keep wondering if he may have been in a no-win stituation where not using them at all was not an option.

I know a no option stituation would be the only reason I would not be talking to the cops anything else I would talk in a minute.

This is the main reason I believe he had an underlying illness. Anyway it does not matter because everybody is out to make a buck right now so it is obvious he had very few real friends.

These people could open their mouths and explain what "We don't know the whole story means" but they are too busy writting books and standing in Prince's place on stage being deluded.

What did Scottie do for or with Prince?

laurarichardson said:

Laydown said:

Prince died of drugs. Unfortunate as it is no one made him take drugs so how can it be a homicide?

--What part of this do you not understand? The police have called this an active homicide investigation and in Minnesota if the find the person who sold Prince the drugs they can be charged with third degree murder. This is not made up and has nothing to do with any conspiracy this is information that came from the police and can be easily researched rather then wasting your time saying how can it be? It is the law.

You go girl!!!

Astasheiks said:

laurarichardson said:

Laydown said: --What part of this do you not understand? The police have called this an active homicide investigation and in Minnesota if the find the person who sold Prince the drugs they can be charged with third degree murder. This is not made up and has nothing to do with any conspiracy this is information that came from the police and can be easily researched rather then wasting your time saying how can it be? It is the law.

You go girl!!!

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All the docs are on the Carver County Sheriff website for public view.

There are roughly 4.5 million people in my provience of Alberta, Canada and in the first 3 months of 2017, 113 people died of a fentynal overdose. In 2015 there were 43 deaths in LA. We've been hearing about the dangers of this drug for years now, but the info isn't being passed on. In Centra and Eastern Canada and on threw the states, people don't know about it yet, unless it's information connected to celebrities. Unfortunaly folks just see it as overdose accidents by long time drug abusers, but the truth is a good portions in the fentynal deaths are people who have never used drugs before. The latest thing on our streets is carfentanyl, which is fentynal used for cow and horses. It takes the equivilant to 3 grains of sand to kill a person. Users don't have a chance. I personally know people who use fentynal patches for chornic pain relief and they are messed up. It's deal with the pain or live in space. So when I read stuff about family members thinking he was showing signs of alzheimer's, I have to wonder if it was some kind of medicating. The bottom line is it's all such a shame and if PRN was dancing with fentynal he never had a chance.

cloveringold85 said:

macdonaldsian said:

There are roughly 4.5 million people in my provience of Alberta, Canada and in the first 3 months of 2017, 113 people died of a fentynal overdose. In 2015 there were 43 deaths in LA. We've been hearing about the dangers of this drug for years now, but the info isn't being passed on. In Centra and Eastern Canada and on threw the states, people don't know about it yet, unless it's information connected to celebrities. Unfortunaly folks just see it as overdose accidents by long time drug abusers, but the truth is a good portions in the fentynal deaths are people who have never used drugs before. The latest thing on our streets is carfentanyl, which is fentynal used for cow and horses. It takes the equivilant to 3 grains of sand to kill a person. Users don't have a chance. I personally know people who use fentynal patches for chornic pain relief and they are messed up. It's deal with the pain or live in space. So when I read stuff about family members thinking he was showing signs of alzheimer's, I have to wonder if it was some kind of medicating. The bottom line is it's all such a shame and if PRN was dancing with fentynal he never had a chance.

He was not found to be a long time user of Fentenyl and it is possible that he was dealing with pain.

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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All the docs are on the Carver County Sheriff website for public view.

https://www.co.carver.mn....estigation No new warrants so ??? How active can it be? [Edited 6/8/17 10:41am]

It is as active as the police and DEA want to be. They are not going to have a press conference to tell us what is going on. You are going to have to take their word for it until we hear different.

Perhaps a long-time users of opiods, but Fent came in recently, maybe on that last day.

1Sasha said:

Perhaps a long-time users of opiods, but Fent came in recently, maybe on that last day.

I agree with that. He wasn't a user of fentanyl and didn't know it was in that pill.

How hard would it be to prove without a doubt there is murder in the third degree?

1Sasha said:

Perhaps a long-time users of opiods, but Fent came in recently, maybe on that last day.

Agree to some extent. If he OD on the plane not with Fentanyl, and being an informed man, why would he use Fentanyl for the first time in that same week, knowing its dangers and how strong it was? Makes no sense, unless he was using Fentanyl in later years. As in from 2014 onwards.

There are people who use Fentanyl routinely and don't die, but in this case ... I just don't know. I think a lot of us have researched the various ways people take Fentanyl. It is Russian Roulette each and every time it seems when it is not taken precisely and under a doctor's care.

1Sasha said:

There are people who use Fentanyl routinely and don't die, but in this case ... I just don't know. I think a lot of us have researched the various ways people take Fentanyl. It is Russian Roulette each and every time it seems when it is not taken precisely and under a doctor's care.

Drugs affect everyone differently. There are many factors involved. What one person could take and not be affected,another will overdose. I know Prince o.d but seriously,this is some fucked up shit,ill never understand. How does Prince die from drugs unless he was a closet user? RIP Prince.

I took drugs for twenty years but i never ever thought Prince took drugs

Laydown said:

1Sasha said:

There are people who use Fentanyl routinely and don't die, but in this case ... I just don't know. I think a lot of us have researched the various ways people take Fentanyl. It is Russian Roulette each and every time it seems when it is not taken precisely and under a doctor's care.

Drugs affect everyone differently. There are many factors involved. What one person could take and not be affected,another will overdose. I know Prince o.d but seriously,this is some fucked up shit,ill never understand. How does Prince die from drugs unless he was a closet user? RIP Prince.

I took drugs for twenty years but i never ever thought Prince took drugs

Exactly...in pondering the loss of this extraordinary man it's impossible, IMO, to escape the conclusion that we really knew very little abut him; just the way he wanted it. From his drug habits, the extent of his physical injuries, real reasons for the demise of two marriages (and I wouldn't be surprised if even his wives didn't really know why it all went south!) , attitudes toward his hard-earned money and preferences for its ultimate dispersal (no will, really?), the essence/truth of his most lasting intimate reationship...a 30-year bond with KJ that was more profound than any relationship he ever had with a woman.

He gave us the glorious music, but he didn't give us any of the real about his life. Nothing wrong with that, fame is a bitch, a devouring monster...but , let's face it, PP was a closet.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Laydown said:

Drugs affect everyone differently. There are many factors involved. What one person could take and not be affected,another will overdose. I know Prince o.d but seriously,this is some fucked up shit,ill never understand. How does Prince die from drugs unless he was a closet user? RIP Prince.

I took drugs for twenty years but i never ever thought Prince took drugs

Exactly...in pondering the loss of this extraordinary man it's impossible, IMO, to escape the conclusion that we really knew very little abut him; just the way he wanted it. From his drug habits, the extent of his physical injuries, real reasons for the demise of two marriages (and I wouldn't be surprised if even his wives didn't really know why it all went south!) , attitudes toward his hard-earned money and preferences for its ultimate dispersal (no will, really?), the essence/truth of his most lasting intimate reationship...a 30-year bond with KJ that was more profound than any relationship he ever had with a woman.

He gave us the glorious music, but he didn't give us any of the real about his life. Nothing wrong with that, fame is a bitch, a devouring monster...but , let's face it, PP was a closet.

Well said.

Laydown said:

1Sasha said:

There are people who use Fentanyl routinely and don't die, but in this case ... I just don't know. I think a lot of us have researched the various ways people take Fentanyl. It is Russian Roulette each and every time it seems when it is not taken precisely and under a doctor's care.

Drugs affect everyone differently. There are many factors involved. What one person could take and not be affected,another will overdose. I know Prince o.d but seriously,this is some fucked up shit,ill never understand. How does Prince die from drugs unless he was a closet user? RIP Prince.

I took drugs for twenty years but i never ever thought Prince took drugs

If he had physical injuries and surgery he would have to take drugs. No one can have an invasive surgery and not have pain medication.

No one is going to be abusing these drugs for 20 years and do the stuff he did. I firmly believe he had an Rx at some point and time. I would not be surprised to protect his privacy if was not written out under an assumed name.

Somethimg or some reason made things go sideways and I believe it was recent.

MMJas said:

1Sasha said:

Perhaps a long-time users of opiods, but Fent came in recently, maybe on that last day.

Agree to some extent. If he OD on the plane not with Fentanyl, and being an informed man, why would he use Fentanyl for the first time in that same week, knowing its dangers and how strong it was? Makes no sense, unless he was using Fentanyl in later years. As in from 2014 onwards.

I don't believe he was a fentanyl user. I don't think he or anybody who got those pills for him, knew that there were fentanyl in them.

Penny, that's what I am thinking. Maybe they came from the same supplier who didn't know either. Or a new supplier who didn't know. I don't think the person (the intermediary) who handed him the supply knew Fent was in them.

Laydown said:

1Sasha said:

There are people who use Fentanyl routinely and don't die, but in this case ... I just don't know. I think a lot of us have researched the various ways people take Fentanyl. It is Russian Roulette each and every time it seems when it is not taken precisely and under a doctor's care.

Drugs affect everyone differently. There are many factors involved. What one person could take and not be affected,another will overdose. I know Prince o.d but seriously,this is some fucked up shit,ill never understand. How does Prince die from drugs unless he was a closet user? RIP Prince.

I took drugs for twenty years but i never ever thought Prince took drugs

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Prince died from illegal street drugs that were laced with deadly Fentanyl. We do not know how he obtained those pills (ongoing homicide investigation). The warrants state that some of those pills that were found at PP had so many different drugs in them. When you are buying drugs off the street, you have no idea what is in those pills. I'm sure you know that, but just saying.

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I do not believe that Prince was a Fentanyl user. He took a pill that he probably thought was Vicodin, but it was laced with Fentanyl. He took a bad street drug, and that is why he is no longer with us. Very sad, and it didn't have to happen.

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We have no evidence that suggests that Prince was a drug addict. Until we hear the final outcome of this case from the authorities, I would not pay much attention to what the media is saying, because they get their facts so screwed-up and will say anything just to make a buck.

PennyPurple said:

MMJas said:

Agree to some extent. If he OD on the plane not with Fentanyl, and being an informed man, why would he use Fentanyl for the first time in that same week, knowing its dangers and how strong it was? Makes no sense, unless he was using Fentanyl in later years. As in from 2014 onwards.

I don't believe he was a fentanyl user. I don't think he or anybody who got those pills for him, knew that there were fentanyl in them.

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