ladygirl99 said:

benni said:

The part that I find interesting that no one has mentioned is that Mayte said he had a will when she was with him and was shocked to learn that he didn't have a will now. I'm unfamiliar with how wills work, but wouldn't the last will he wrote still be valid?

I am stunned by this new info. Maybe he decided to destroy the will later on. That should be a new thread in my opinion to discuss as it being overlook on this thread.

Prince was weird and unpredictable as people would called me that too. Us weirdos are not suprised by another weirdo's actions.

A new thread for the will? Why didn't dummy mention this when the entire nation was investigating and hunting for the will? People have been drilling into the Sierra mountains look for this shit and dummy mentions it now? This is how you can gauge her manipulation meter. She should be quarantined to her kennel and receive no portion of the book proceeds until we find the will.

ladygirl99 said:

Purplestar88 said:

Mayte was not a one woman island. She had help with her success too, that's why she got to write a book, be on a reality show, be in magzines, teach classes,etc . If Prince has a image he presented to fan, so does she. She in the showbusiness too. So what is your point? Who is on the cover of the book? Who is the book mostly about?

Mayte presented her image as being a one woman island, really? She repeatedly always making her existance about Prince.

My point is Prince and many fans always thinking Prince did everything by himself.

Duh I know she is in the showbusiness but if you have been reading this thread, people are having a hard time believing some of things Prince was accused of because they had a fantasy and cant do no wrong image of him NOT a human, flaw one.

She had help with success too. Prince never presented himself like no one help him. She had a drive to successful in her career and so did Prince. Prince flaws have been well documented so I don't who on this thread has a fantasy and can't see fault because they question Mayte statements. Mayte is no angel or victim.

ladygirl99 said:

ladygirl99 said:

Purplestar88 said:

Mayte was not a one woman island. She had help with her success too, that's why she got to write a book, be on a reality show, be in magzines, teach classes,etc . If Prince has a image he presented to fan, so does she. She in the showbusiness too. So what is your point? Who is on the cover of the book? Who is the book mostly about?

She never bragged about doing everything by herself she always connected herself to Prince.

My point is Prince and many fans always thinking Prince did everything by himself.

Duh I know she is in the showbusiness but if you have been reading this thread, people are having a hard time believing some of things Prince was accused of because they had a fantasy and cant do no wrong image of him NOT a human, flaw one.

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I never saw any one on the site claim Prince did everything by himself but he was the driving force for HIS CAREER. Because at the end of the day no will care if you don't care about your career. If he push people, he pushed himself more harder.

Menes said:

Menes said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am stunned by this new info. Maybe he decided to destroy the will later on. That should be a new thread in my opinion to discuss as it being overlook on this thread.

Prince was weird and unpredictable as people would called me that too. Us weirdos are not suprised by another weirdo's actions.

A new thread for the will? Why didn't dummy mention this when the entire nation was investigating and hunting for the will? People have been drilling into the Sierra mountains look for this shit and dummy mentions it now? This is how you can gauge her manipulation meter. She should be quarantined to her kennel and receive no portion of the book proceeds until we find the will.

It's very fishey. I wonder if a will or drug use talk would have been an option if he had a will and not die from the overdose.

MOre the case for his girlfriends then his female friends. It does seem like he mellowed a bit about the control issues the last five ten years of his life (except for maybe BRia) . The ladies he mentored seemed to have more of their own opinions, outlooks, approaches and ambitions.. Andy was sculpted a bit appearance-wise but she wrote her own lyrics and actually seemed to influence his style.

BTW, chicken before the egg question. HE sculpted Mayte's looks right? But wasn't she always a belly dancer and then he started using belly dancing in his videos (7). Was he looking for belly dancer or inspired by what she was already doing? That fine line between being a muse and being a piece of clay I guess. Creatively he seemed to listen to the women. PUblically, he seemed to sculpt them and their opinions. Privately its harder to say with all the women. Mayte was more like clay than others were probably. But I thought I read somewhere that she was a vegan first.m But when a man supposedly spends hours talking to these women (like accounts suggest), I am sure they have to talk about something and it can't all be one-sided. Perhaps, he just highlighted what he was seeing in them already (in some cases.) ITs not like he told Wendy and Lisa to pretend to be straight...however, they did all seem to dress alike in the Revolution. So could it be a combination of both molding and being inspired by what's already there?

annalizer said:

ladygirl99 said:

I stand by what I said. Prince wasn't a one-man island no matter what the image he presented to the fans. He had helped with his success.

And Mayte helped birth his child even though the outcome was horrible. He wrote songs about her. She dance to his videos and onstage. I don't agree with the way her parents introduced him at a young age. Just because she wasn't a musician that doesn't mean her time with Prince was useless. Once again P's associates and exs stories should be heard too and are going to be told whether fans like it or not. Its their history/herstory too.

I agree. The one glaring problem with Prince was his abnormal need for control and the total disdain for the word "no" which is evident from childhood. When Prince couldn't get what he wanted,he pouted and found a way to get his way. From producing his first album, convincing WB to back Purple Rain etc...prince had become the king of controlling his destiny-that's a good thing-but when he began to create his own utopia of the women in his life that's where things get shady. I don't think he ever really knew what the real purpose of a woman was for based on the way he used them in terms of totally transforming them into his version of them. Their look, style, thoughts except when creative, eating habits, religious beliefs etc. He didn't treat the women as if they had minds which why ultimately the relationships fizzled. They no longer cared for his material generosity and just wanted to get the heck out because they eventually learned it came with a hefty price. I believe Mayte telling her story is about many things but a major one is control. I don't think its her intent to make this a glaring issue, but it exposes the amount of control he had (speculation) in making the choice to cremate their child. I could be completely off base, but I don't think Mayte was ok with that. I don't know how many mothers could go through something so horrible and agree to something like that . To me, this would have been the time to compromise on such an important matter instead of giving their child to her in an urn. In other words, it doesn't seem as if she had much choice.

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Purplestar88 said:

Menes said:

A new thread for the will? Why didn't dummy mention this when the entire nation was investigating and hunting for the will? People have been drilling into the Sierra mountains look for this shit and dummy mentions it now? This is how you can gauge her manipulation meter. She should be quarantined to her kennel and receive no portion of the book proceeds until we find the will.

It's very fishey. I wonder if a will or drug use talk would have been an option if he had a will and not die from the overdose.

Maybe his having a will was mentioned to his family and they have no obligation to broadcast that. She has been at the memorials and tributes so more than likely it was mentioned. Duh.

actually I am curious about the possibility of dwarfism in the child...I wonder if Prince thought about the times Madonna and Boy George referred to him disrespectively as a "dwarf" beacause of his small stature

purplerabbithole said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

More like:

Hey Yoda! Question for you: what happened to your signature line? Since it is gone does that mean you aren't family anymore????

joytotheworld said:

Purplestar88 said:

It's very fishey. I wonder if a will or drug use talk would have been an option if he had a will and not die from the overdose.

Maybe his having a will was mentioned to his family and they have no obligation to broadcast that. She has been at the memorials and tributes so more than likely it was mentioned. Duh.

Yeah Duh? I am just wondering if drug use would had been in the book if he did not died from a overdose. She also wanted to do the book when he was alive, so I am wondering if she would included the drug talk in it. Very fishy.

Purplestar88 said:

ladygirl99 said:

She never bragged about doing everything by herself she always connected herself to Prince.

My point is Prince and many fans always thinking Prince did everything by himself.

Duh I know she is in the showbusiness but if you have been reading this thread, people are having a hard time believing some of things Prince was accused of because they had a fantasy and cant do no wrong image of him NOT a human, flaw one.

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I never saw any one on the site claim Prince did everything by himself but he was the driving force for HIS CAREER. Because at the end of the day no will care if you don't care about your career. If he push people, he pushed himself more harder.

I dont know how long you have been on the org but I have been here since 1998 when it was purple and black and when Prince was his final years with Mayte. anyway some diehard fans gotten mad when you made any indication that Prince didn't become successful by himself. Whether writing love or songs about Mayte, or include her on his stage, or have her same backup for songs like Pope, or did an album entirely about her, or directed music videos, he had helped.

And Google is your friend to find interviews of Prince (and the ones who knew him) who sometimes believe his success is mainly of him and his associates said the same he had a hard time of seeking help and wanted to control everything.

purplerabbithole said:

But let's say the assistant comes forth and says its true.

Uh, at this point in the game, how could anyone believe the "assistant"? If they were willing to come forward at all, why didn't that happen before this alleged incident came out in the press? I know I'd have serious doubts as to the authenticity.

Menes said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am stunned by this new info. Maybe he decided to destroy the will later on. That should be a new thread in my opinion to discuss as it being overlook on this thread.

Prince was weird and unpredictable as people would called me that too. Us weirdos are not suprised by another weirdo's actions.

A new thread for the will? Why didn't dummy mention this when the entire nation was investigating and hunting for the will? People have been drilling into the Sierra mountains look for this shit and dummy mentions it now? This is how you can gauge her manipulation meter. She should be quarantined to her kennel and receive no portion of the book proceeds until we find the will.

Well new thread wouldnt be needed if people weren't too busy to trash Mayte to overlook this info.

As the old saying goes, Public has the right to know the info, but they get the cold tea while the insiders drank the hot tea.

Menes said:

babynoz said:

Menes said:

She couldn't resist the temptation to settle the score one last time after feeling betrayed for all these years. She has been making offhand remarks, dropping hints here and there, and soliciting help in any way she could to get Prince out of her system while simultaneously making some cash.. A brooding broad she became. The boyfriend's didnt work, the shelter didn't work, that wretched ratchet show didn't work, selling off your most beloved and cherished items from your marriage didnt work, adopting a child didnt work... something has to work!

Many of them have used certain mediums to benefit from the man. Some ran and started church, others ran to facebook, some to twitter, some started painting as if Picasso had possessed them, some started touring, some resurrrected singing careers(sit down Sharon).

But, but, but, the book! This might work because now the world knows me through Prince and they will pay me to read it! I get to make money off of his name finally! It's her right, so ask yourself, you think this is out of love? Maybe in Tagalog it is.

The problem is, in English, selling this story would best be described as a shrewed definition of success when you diminish in any way the hand that fed you.This has nothing to do with Prince. Ulitmate betrayal. To the public square!

Hallelujah! Somebody around here can peep game. You are one of the few.

Exactly. Menes and I haven't always agreed about things but I completely agree with her posts in this thread.

joytotheworld said:

Purplestar88 said:

It's very fishey. I wonder if a will or drug use talk would have been an option if he had a will and not die from the overdose.

Maybe his having a will was mentioned to his family and they have no obligation to broadcast that. She has been at the memorials and tributes so more than likely it was mentioned. Duh.

80tomato said:

muleFunk said:

benni said:

What everyone seems to be overlooking is that this is Mayte's story, not Prince's.

And how do we know it isn't true?

I said in the beginning that I had no problem with her writing a book.

My problem is when someone is dead and someone close to them makes a statement then the other side has no chance to defend themselves.

It's like all of these books written after Dr. King's death saying he was a womanizer. The man is dead and cannot confirm or deny any story. Many of these books were written about Dr. King to discredit him and his wife was the one who denied the claims.

Prince has no one to deny anything so any statement becomes truth.

Thank you Mulefunk!! We don't know since he isn't here to say one way or the other.

I think a lot of the women he dated (even if they had to get out from under his influence) were not particularly hateful toward him (Carmen a bit, Vanity was a bit shady) after the fact even though he was controlling and uncompromising at times. The men who worked for him were controlled as well to some extent and they were a bit less forgiving.

The reason might be that even though Prince was controlling, he was gently so where women were concerned. He was a fancy lesbian. An influential girlfriend in some ways (think his fashion advice to Tamron Hall.) his control didn't feel threatening but they knew he could run if they didn't listen. And I think at times, like I said, he highlighted what he saw in them and gave them confidence as artists. Something like, "oh, you really have a pretty folksy voice, why don't you write folk songs? Or you really have a great visual eye, why don't you direct a video?" As far as their personal/philosophical influence, its not entirely clear because he dominated the public image. By the time, his veganism, Afrocentrism, or environmentalism got out to the public, it would be hard to know where it originally came from. I don't think he thought women were brainless or without thoughts/opinions, I just think he wanted to influence them.

Can you imagine what it was like when he briefly dated Madonna and she kept trying to get him out of his shell> LOL.

Control to prince was probably like stability (something lacking in his childhood.)

annalizer said:

purplerabbithole said:

MOre the case for his girlfriends then his female friends. It does seem like he mellowed a bit about the control issues the last five ten years of his life (except for maybe BRia) . The ladies he mentored seemed to have more of their own opinions, outlooks, approaches and ambitions.. Andy was sculpted a bit appearance-wise but she wrote her own lyrics and actually seemed to influence his style.

BTW, chicken before the egg question. HE sculpted Mayte's looks right? But wasn't she always a belly dancer and then he started using belly dancing in his videos (7). Was he looking for belly dancer or inspired by what she was already doing? That fine line between being a muse and being a piece of clay I guess. Creatively he seemed to listen to the women. PUblically, he seemed to sculpt them and their opinions. Privately its harder to say with all the women. Mayte was more like clay than others were probably. But when a man supposedly spends hours talking to these women (like accounts suggest), I am sure they have to talk about something. Perhaps, he just highlighted what he was seeing in them already (in some cases.) ITs not like he told Wendy and Lisa to pretend to be straight...however, they did all seem to dress alike in the Revolution. So could it be a combination of both molding and being inspired by what's already there? Yes, you're right in his later years. I was only referring to the women he dated.

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joytotheworld said:

Purplestar88 said:

It's very fishey. I wonder if a will or drug use talk would have been an option if he had a will and not die from the overdose.

Maybe his having a will was mentioned to his family and they have no obligation to broadcast that. She has been at the memorials and tributes so more than likely it was mentioned. Duh.

Yes yes, I bet it was a rather profound exchange of information between Mayte and the family during the services. I could hear it now:

Tyka: (whispering during the service)"You know my brother burnt up your shit and sprayed the babies ashes under Larry's front porch, right?"

Mayte:"Oh thats ok , at least them pills I was giving him caught up to him finally. Oh, and you will never find that will".

Tyka: " What bitch?"

(While Larry sings "rock of ages and passes around a collection plate for the "urn")...

Mayte:" Read the book, I dont want to disrespect my ex-husband like that".

ladygirl99 said:

Purplestar88 said:

I never saw any one on the site claim Prince did everything by himself but he was the driving force for HIS CAREER. Because at the end of the day no will care if you don't care about your career. If he push people, he pushed himself more harder.

I dont know how long you have been on the org but I have been here since 1998 when it was purple and black and when Prince was his final years with Mayte. anyway some diehard fans gotten mad when you made any indication that Prince didn't become successful by himself. Whether writing love or songs about Mayte, or include her on his stage, or have her same backup for songs like Pope, or did an album entirely about her, or directed music videos, he had helped.

And Google is your friend to find interviews of Prince (and the ones who knew him) who sometimes believe his success is mainly of him and his associates said the same he had a hard time of seeking help and wanted to control everything.

He had help but he also allowed people to be in his world. He allowed her to apart of so many things because he believe in her talent and beauty. He choose her, he did not have to let Mayte "help" him with anything. Their are many people in the industy that could have "help" him with his creations but he choose Mayte to apart of it comming to light. And just because someone said he was self made or a one man band did not mean, they are saying on one ever help him. I don't need google. I know what his associates have said.

ladygirl99 said:

Purplestar88 said:

I never saw any one on the site claim Prince did everything by himself but he was the driving force for HIS CAREER. Because at the end of the day no will care if you don't care about your career. If he push people, he pushed himself more harder.

I dont know how long you have been on the org but I have been here since 1998 when it was purple and black and when Prince was his final years with Mayte. anyway some diehard fans gotten mad when you made any indication that Prince didn't become successful by himself. Whether writing love or songs about Mayte, or include her on his stage, or have her same backup for songs like Pope, or did an album entirely about her, or directed music videos, he had helped.

And Google is your friend to find interviews of Prince (and the ones who knew him) who sometimes believe his success is mainly of him and his associates said the same he had a hard time of seeking help and wanted to control everything.

He had help but he also allowed people to be in his world. He allowed her to apart of so many things because he believe in her talent and beauty. He choose her, he did not have to let Mayte "help" him with anything. Their are many people in the industy that could have "help" him with his creations but he choose Mayte to apart of it comming to light. And just because someone said he was self made or a one man band did not mean, they are saying on one ever help him. I don't need google. I know what his associates have said.

ladygirl99 said:

Menes said:

A new thread for the will? Why didn't dummy mention this when the entire nation was investigating and hunting for the will? People have been drilling into the Sierra mountains look for this shit and dummy mentions it now? This is how you can gauge her manipulation meter. She should be quarantined to her kennel and receive no portion of the book proceeds until we find the will.

Well new thread wouldnt be needed if people weren't too busy to trash Mayte to overlook this info.

As the old saying goes, Public has the right to know the info, but they get the cold tea while the insiders drank the hot tea.

A divorce will revoke a ex-spouse as a beneficiary in a Will.

However, if the ex was left as a beneficiary on a retirement account, or insurance policy, etc

the ex would receive those proceeds.

PennyPurple said:

Look, I'll always be a fan of Prince, but that doesn't mean I have to like what he did. If he really did that, then he was a big vindictive asshole, who couldn't bring himself to do it, so he made an assistant do it. We all know he was an ass with some of the women anyways, but it doesn't compare to this.

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Several people could clear it all up in a second. Tyka or the assistant.

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If he didn't want the ashes, that's fine too, but at least give them to Mayte or ask her if she wants them. Don't be a dick about it. Seriously.

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And if the assistant threw them in the fire.....what kind of person is she? No compassion, no morals??

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Then again I don't believe in cremation, several family members have been cremated and those ashes are respected. You don't go throw them in the trash, or throw them in a fire. That is disrespectful to the dead and to the living. And as a mother, I would guarantee that those ashes would be with me. I wouldn't NOT know where those ashes were.

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So right now I'm disheartened by HIS actions and HER actions.

But why are you accepting unproven allegations as being true? Because your words indicate that you think they are. Since you state right at the start that you are a fan of Prince, I don't get why you'd entertain these notions since there hasn't been any proof of them.

The JW's blamed her for the babies death? Was it God's plan? That is sick. Hope Larry didn't have something to do with this.

ladygirl99 said:

awake4now said:

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Oh? Not only is do the statements in that last paragraph contradict each other, the last sentence ignores the FACT that there would be no book deal for this person in the first place without him. It is all about him, or there would be no $ in it, and publishers wouldn't even entertain books deals.

I stand by what I said. Prince wasn't a one-man island no matter what the image he presented to the fans. He had helped with his success.

And Mayte helped birth his child even though the outcome was horrible. He wrote songs about her. She dance to his videos and onstage. I don't agree with the way her parents introduced him at a young age. Just because she wasn't a musician that doesn't mean her time with Prince was useless. Once again P's associates and exs stories should be heard too and are going to be told whether fans like it or not. Its their history/herstory too.

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And I stand by my statement that none of the "stories" would or will be published in a commercially released book deal without it being about him.

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This man worked his ass of his entire life, earned everything he had from that work ethic, innovated popular music, and fought a ruthless industry largely on his own. Like it or not, everyone else in the PP scene was along for the ride, unless they moved on to their own non-Prince hustle.

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Many have already shared their stories. It doesn't have to be done for big $$ via book or film deals. People who pursue deals like this are riding on his hard work and his recent death for financial gain. Apparently the author and/or publisher releasing salacious, second-hand details to tabloids to generate interest is ok too. It's called a cash grab.

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