What a piece of work. Are you people seriously telling me that if she mentioned something like" he had to have his stomach pumped" that this doesn't smell of payback? She never saw him take anything but conveniently mentions he had to have his stomach pumped? This is like reading that Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped for semen intake. Who would ever equate excerpts of someone getting their stomach pumped wiht a love story? Who would write this?

Menes said:

What a piece of work. Are you people seriously telling me that if she mentioned something like" he had to have his stomach pumped" that this doesn't smell of payback? She never saw him take anything but conveniently mentions he had to have his stomach pumped? This is like reading that Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped for semen intake. Who would ever equate excerpts of someone getting their stomach pumped wiht a love story? Who would write this?

I'm with ya'. The insinuations were completely unnecessary in the writing of a "love story".

morningsong said:

I'm curious if it strikes anyone odd that Mayte would know the Will situation during their marriage but she would have no clue about her child's remains?

Too many patterns here. I'm wiliing to put money on it that a lot of us will find her to be a manipulative , vindictive woman who has been plotting to give Prince one last good dose of payback. Selling all that locked up pain and anger into one nasty dose of delicate poison , all in the form of a book.

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

I'm curious if it strikes anyone odd that Mayte would know the Will situation during their marriage but she would have no clue about her child's remains?

It's very odd.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

benni said:

An artist exposes themselves, period. I've written a book about my childhood and some of those that were involved in my childhood are no longer alive. Should I have not written about it? My intention for writing about it was to bring attention to the fact that stuff I went through happens and it's not always obvious that it is occurring. I have nothing to defend. But it is my story, my life, my experiences and the thoughts and feelings of my experiences. If it helps one person who has gone through something similar, then I feel that writing it and going through the pain and heartbreak all over again to put it to paper was worth it. And it was also liberating, to finally speak about something that I had to keep so secret as a child and to the tell the whole world: I matter. My experiences matter. My feelings matter. My thoughts matter. I am someone of value.

But going by what you are saying, what laurarichardson is saying, I should not tell my story because I'm making my money off someone else, even though it is MY story and MY experiences, MY feelings and MY thoughts.

As for Prince not forcing her to do anything, what you (and laurarichardson) forget is that Prince was a VERY controlling person. I don't know if you've ever lived your time around someone like that, but I have. Yes, you are forced to go along with what they say, especially if they started grooming you while you were young (as in Mayte's case when she first came to Prince). Yes, she loved Prince, but it does not in any form change the fact that Prince was very controlling of those he loved. When you deal with an individual like that, you often give in to them whether you really want to or not. You believe that how you feel about it isn't important enough to warrant fighting back. I'm not dissing Prince here. Even Prince admitted once that he was very controlling. This idea that once she was 18 she was free to make her own decisions is erroneous because around individuals that are very controlling, if you want to keep the peace and be with the one you love, you submit to their will. And even if you don't want to keep the peace and be around them, if you've been conditioned on how to respond and react, you submit to their will.

Prince said in an interview that the reason for seeking an anullment was because that piece of paper made him feel like he had the right to be controlling of her. He saw what he was doing, knew what he was doing. And I think that's one of the reasons why he didn't want to be around her any more. She was not only a reminder of their son, but a reminder of who he became while married to her. The fact that you and laurarichardson think she was able to make her own decisions and fight against the things she didn't like tells me that you both were blessed to not go through anything like that and therefore cannot imagine anyone submitting to another like that. I envy you that. Unfortunately, I know that submission too well.

I think he did not want to be around her because he did not want to be married in the first place. You cannot make a man settle down if they do not want to be. He was not ready for marriage when he got with her. I do not buy that he was so controlling that she could not leave as in the bootleg copy excerpts that are floating around she is saying he hynoptized her ( do you have any idea how that makes her look !) I am sorry she married a man who was dating her Nona Gaye and Carmen at the same time. If she could not see what was coming with him from that experience that is on her. I am interested in how some of the people she is dragging in the book are going to feel about her putting their personal business out in the street. Is that so she can heal? Because these people are alive and well and it will be interesting to hear what they have to say. [Edited 3/16/17 6:25am]

So then why did he get married to her? He proposed to her. There are numerous interviews in which he divulges how he is happily married.

There is a thread that you started, Site with many Prince articles: http://prince.org/msg/7/438908 with numerous articles in which he professes his love for Mayte and talks about being happily married. He has numerous love songs for her on Emancipation. He wrote at least 1 song for Manuela also (Call My Name). He wanted to be married. He obviously had issues staying married, but he clearly states in articles and in his music that he wanted to be married.

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Album celebrates a new freedom

by Edna Gundersen

"I don’t think I knew the answer until I got married and made the commitment: ’I will take care of you forever.’ When she walked down the aisle, and I looked into the eyes of this woman-child, I could see our future and the eyes of our child. At moments like that, you are floating. There is no ego.”

Though The Artist rails against the record industry in songs like White Mansion and Slave, most tunes wax romantic. Mayte inspired Let’s Have a Baby, Sex in the Summer and Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife. On Saviour, he coos, “We’re like two petals from the same flower.”

(Source: https://sites.google.com/...mber-1996)

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Prince Meets the Press

by Jon Bream

He called music “my best friend and my worst friend,” saying that sometimes he can’t turn it off. He said Mayte, the dancer whom he married Feb. 14, has “completed my soul. I see songs fully now. That’s why they come out quickly.” He said he married her because she was “the first person who never showed me malice.”

(Source: https://sites.google.com/...mber-1996)

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Former Prince’s coming out bash is unforgettable
by Jim Walsh

*Marriage: “It’s changed my writing immensely. You stop looking for different things. You feel complete. She’s completed my soul.”

(Source: https://sites.google.com/...mber-1996)

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Prince's Wife, Manuela, Filed for Divorce

by People Staff

Prince’s personal lawyer, Patrick Cousins, confirms that Testolini Nelson is the petitioner. “His wife filed for divorce. This isn't something that he wanted,” says Cousins. “There isn’t anything else. He didn’t counter sue. He is just trying to get it resolved. (Source: http://people.com/celebrity/princes-wife-manuela-filed-for-divorce/)

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm finding her account of things interesting and enlightening. I remember watching that Oprah special at PP in utter disbelief that 1. Her nosy ass was there trying to get a scoop. 2. The look in Mayte's eyes, even though she tried real hard to hide it, was of pure devastation. 3. And looked so lost in his denial. I wept for them because I could just feel that they were in so much pain. And now I know I wasn't mistaken about that.

Prince never dealt with what happened with their child and perhaps if he had, things could have been different for them.

Menes said:

What a piece of work. Are you people seriously telling me that if she mentioned something like" he had to have his stomach pumped" that this doesn't smell of payback? She never saw him take anything but conveniently mentions he had to have his stomach pumped? This is like reading that Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped for semen intake. Who would ever equate excerpts of someone getting their stomach pumped wiht a love story? Who would write this?

Who would write this?

Alex Hahn in his 1st sleezy book.

BillieBalloon said:

cindyt said:

I don't believe that story about the baby belonged in the public eye. I'm sorry. It's utterly tragic and heartbreaking. We all have tragic, heartbreaking things in our lives. We don't have to publicly spill them to recover from them. And not only does she seem to be playing on his horror for the baby to born sick like that, she's playing on that poor child. If she even went on an interview to discuss it, but to SELL it is what's really galling to me. Sad story, and sad way to share it. She's also implying that the gene came from HIM, and it probably did. Do you think he EVER recovered from that...being a musician and all...come on, I think the answer is obvious. No. to this.

Why does she feel the need to state publically that the gene came from him? This is a man she loved, do people need to know if Prince had a faulty gene? Why did she want to stay married and try for more children if Prince had a faulty gene? She has done NOTHING to preserve a mans dignity that she supposedly loved. She categorically stated that she didnt want a divorce.

Where does she imply that the gene came from Prince? I read the book excerpt in People and she didn't say anything about the gene coming from him (not that I recall).

Misslink88 said:

PRINCE DID SPEAK ABOUT HIS SON ONCE, February, 1997. AND THEN HE LEFT IT OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/24/prince-people-hear-sex-in-my-songs-interview-1997-top-of-the-pops-magazine

His good humour is as intoxicating as it is surprising. In the past two years, he’s faced record company wrangles, falling sales, waning interest and, in October 1996, the loss of his child. Known only as Boy Gregory, the son of Prince and his wife, Mayte Garcia, lived for just a few days after being born with a skull deformity known as Pfeiffer syndrome.

“That time has been the most traumatic of my life,” Prince acknowledges, “but contrary to what has been said about me, I feel very positive. I believe God has a plan. Everything that happens, there’s a reason for it.”

But surely, what plan, what reason can there be behind the death of a few-days-old child? “There are so many ways to look at things,” he replies softly. “And I would never use the words, ‘they’re gone’. They will always come back you see,” he adds, never once dropping his gaze.

This is new 2 me. Thank U 4 sharing.

206Michelle said:

laurarichardson said:

benni said: I think he did not want to be around her because he did not want to be married in the first place. You cannot make a man settle down if they do not want to be. He was not ready for marriage when he got with her. I do not buy that he was so controlling that she could not leave as in the bootleg copy excerpts that are floating around she is saying he hynoptized her ( do you have any idea how that makes her look !) I am sorry she married a man who was dating her Nona Gaye and Carmen at the same time. If she could not see what was coming with him from that experience that is on her. I am interested in how some of the people she is dragging in the book are going to feel about her putting their personal business out in the street. Is that so she can heal? Because these people are alive and well and it will be interesting to hear what they have to say. [Edited 3/16/17 6:25am]

So then why did he get married to her? He proposed to her. There are numerous interviews in which he divulges how he is happily married.

There is a thread that you started, Site with many Prince articles: http://prince.org/msg/7/438908 with numerous articles in which he professes his love for Mayte and talks about being happily married. He has numerous love songs for her on Emancipation. He wrote at least 1 song for Manuela also (Call My Name). He wanted to be married. He obviously had issues staying married, but he clearly states in articles and in his music that he wanted to be married.

--

Album celebrates a new freedom

by Edna Gundersen

"I don’t think I knew the answer until I got married and made the commitment: ’I will take care of you forever.’ When she walked down the aisle, and I looked into the eyes of this woman-child, I could see our future and the eyes of our child. At moments like that, you are floating. There is no ego.”

Though The Artist rails against the record industry in songs like White Mansion and Slave, most tunes wax romantic. Mayte inspired Let’s Have a Baby, Sex in the Summer and Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife. On Saviour, he coos, “We’re like two petals from the same flower.”

(Source: https://sites.google.com/...mber-1996)

--

Prince Meets the Press

by Jon Bream

He called music “my best friend and my worst friend,” saying that sometimes he can’t turn it off. He said Mayte, the dancer whom he married Feb. 14, has “completed my soul. I see songs fully now. That’s why they come out quickly.” He said he married her because she was “the first person who never showed me malice.”

(Source: https://sites.google.com/...mber-1996)

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Former Prince’s coming out bash is unforgettable
by Jim Walsh

*Marriage: “It’s changed my writing immensely. You stop looking for different things. You feel complete. She’s completed my soul.”

(Source: https://sites.google.com/...mber-1996)

--

Prince's Wife, Manuela, Filed for Divorce

by People Staff

Prince’s personal lawyer, Patrick Cousins, confirms that Testolini Nelson is the petitioner. “His wife filed for divorce. This isn't something that he wanted,” says Cousins. “There isn’t anything else. He didn’t counter sue. He is just trying to get it resolved. (Source: http://people.com/celebrity/princes-wife-manuela-filed-for-divorce/)

WHile I haven't read the book yet although purchased, perhaps the term hynotize is being used figuratively rather than literally?

joytotheworld said:

206Michelle said:

Deadflow3r said:

For over 20 years now Prince fans have wondered about Mayte's side of the story. We have had countless threads about Mayte on this site alone. I think it is fair that she has a chance to tell her side of the story. What was it like to be swept up into the life of a living legend at 16 years old? What was it like (horrible I assume) to have every aspect of your pregnancy captured only to have the child die so soon aftre birth? That is huge for any first time mother, never mind one who is living in a fishing bowl. The divorce, Mani, the friendship with Mani. So many things to speak of.

My thoughts exactly.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Menes said:

What a piece of work. Are you people seriously telling me that if she mentioned something like" he had to have his stomach pumped" that this doesn't smell of payback? She never saw him take anything but conveniently mentions he had to have his stomach pumped? This is like reading that Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped for semen intake. Who would ever equate excerpts of someone getting their stomach pumped wiht a love story? Who would write this?

Who would write this?

Alex Hahn in his 1st sleezy book.

And what does that have to do with her repeating it and selling it as part of her story? She has been strapped for cash for some time now. Hawking stuff at pawn shops is usually a clear sign that you've hit a skid.

laurarichardson said:

joytotheworld said:

WHile I haven't read the book yet although purchased, perhaps the term hynotize is being used figuratively rather than literally?

--Stop making excuses for her. Figuratively or literally it sounds crazy. Also what he said and what happened in the end or two different story. You can be married to your carreer and married to s person at the same time. He loved that music above anything else did he not say that in " Guitar"

I'll write whatever I like thank you as you do. I am not making excuses for her and am entitled to my opinion.

NotACleverName said:

rogifan said:

tish9311 said:

Mayte's book is her story and that is what it is . But the People article that's a bit much. It leads you to believe that you are going to learn a whole lot of know things. But I don't we walk away with a better understanding of Prince and his drug additction/habit/abuse.

In a normal world I would run and biuy that people, but I will donate that money to a worthy cause.

Why are people thinking that a book written by someone who was married to Prince in the 90s would give a better understanding of something that happened to him in 2016?

The death of their child happened in the mid 1990s. The death of a child, particularly of an only child, is so profound. People can move on with their lives, but the pain of the loss of a child is always there. Perhaps the pain of Amiir's death was a part of the pain Prince was experiencing in his 50s. For the record, my opinion is that I think he was in a lot of emotional pain as well as physical pain, and emotional pain #1 was the loss of his son. People often use drugs such as painkillers to fill unmet needs or dull pain. It doesn't make them bad, it means that they are sick and need help.

[Edited 3/18/17 20:53pm]

206Michelle said:

rogifan said:

Menes said:

What a piece of work. Are you people seriously telling me that if she mentioned something like" he had to have his stomach pumped" that this doesn't smell of payback? She never saw him take anything but conveniently mentions he had to have his stomach pumped? This is like reading that Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped for semen intake. Who would ever equate excerpts of someone getting their stomach pumped wiht a love story? Who would write this?

Not someone who is classy that's for sure.

As classy as the one that told the newspaper columnist just how good Prince was in bed.

206Michelle said:

rogifan said:

tish9311 said: Why are people thinking that a book written by someone who was married to Prince in the 90s would give a better understanding of something that happened to him in 2016?

The death of their child happened in the mid 1990s. The death of a child, particularly of an only child, is so profound. People can move on with their lives, but the pain of the loss of a child is always there.

Yes yes, profound enough to disparage your ex-husbands name by implying that you had suspicions about drug use, or that he may have destroyed the ashes of the child you grieved about... Yes , this has a lot to do with grieving eh? And while I'm grieving, why can't I make a little change off of the grieving too? If she was not the ex-wife of Prince and she had given birth to a child with Pffiefer Syndrome after having sex with the average joe , you think she would be peddling a book? She has set the bar very high for the grieving I tell ya.

annalizer said:

Menes said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

I seen an copy of this magazine at the supermarket today. I didn't get it.

I did. Bottom line there are things you're gonna hear about about Prince now that he's gone because the media couldn't take him down when he was still alive like they always wanted to. Just like they did Michael, Whitney and now Bill Cosby.

morningsong said:

Menes said:

Too many patterns here. I'm wiliing to put money on it that a lot of us will find her to be a manipulative , vindictive woman who has been plotting to give Prince one last good dose of payback. Selling all that locked up pain and anger into one nasty dose of delicate poison , all in the form of a book.

Ok. I just can't get past, if it were me, Prince would have been introduced to several shades of crazy he never saw before for not telling me where my baby was. Heck for even keeping me from its remains, his "privacy' would have been shattered It wouldn't have been about being a vengeful person just i can't see that not competely destorying one inside.

But think about this...Prior to his death, she has on numerous occasions expressed how devastating it was for both of them to lose the child to this syndrome. What changed all of a sudden to cause her to write a book now that includes some barbed jabs at him?

Menes said:

morningsong said:

Menes said:

But think about this...Prior to his death, she has on numerous occasions expressed how devastating it was for both of them to lose the child to this syndrome. What changed all of a sudden to cause her to write a book now that includes some barbed jabs at him?

i can't comprehend how one can be nearly crushed under the weight of losing a child but be perfectly ok with not knowing exactly where it is? highly sensitive in one area completely oblivious in another. Why would you desire a man who did that to you against your will?

I imagine that whomever buys the book will read a lot of passive aggressive passages in that book. This will probably help her career as well. Par for the course.

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

disch, I agree with you about the description of Amiir's appearance. Look, Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2 is not a pretty condition. I even read an article about the family of a 6-year-old boy who lives in Flordia and has Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2. The boy's name is William. William's mother, Lisa Feller, said the following in the article: Feller is matter-of-fact about it. “When he was born, it was very difficult to look at him,” she said. (Source: http://jacksonville.com/n...condition)

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Amiir may have had severe deformities, but he was still Prince and Mayte's much-wanted, beloved son. He was their creation. They loved him so much that his death caused Mayte to become suicidal and was the beginning of the end of their marriage.

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I have said it before on other threads (e.g. Where did it all turn for Prince), and I still believe, that Prince's pain was as much, if not more, emotional as it was physical. And the #1 emotional pain he experienced in his life was the death of his son. The lack of songs about Amiir's death and P's unwillingness to acknowledge Amiir's death says something about the pain of the loss...it was so painful that it was, for the most part, unspeakably painful. Prince, who was SO revealing about so many aspects of his life in his music, has 1 or 2 songs about his son's death in his published catalogue ("Comeback" for sure and possibly "Until U're in My Arms Again").

[Edited 3/18/17 19:26pm]

He did not talk about his son's death because it was private family manner and would have been tacky and sad. Do you sit around bringing up sad shit for grins and giggles. Many people said he was not a serious person and he liked to have fun. Everybody is down with living in the past and he unshakeable faith that lord took that child for a reason. I thing Mayte had post party's depression and may be still suffering with some other disorders.

I don't think Prince really moves on from his son's death. Do you really think unshakeable failth can heal him? He is a human after all. He has pain and joy like everybody else here.

http://extratv.com/2017/03/18/prince-destroyed-ashes-and-pictures-of-his-dead-son-he-had-it-all-burned/.