partyup77 said:

The book was announced in Spring/Summer of 2015 for release that Christmas season and described as a "tell-all".

Then - nothing.

That tells me that her initial attempts were thwarted by some sort of cease & desist correspondence or possibly a change of heart.

Either that or at the time, no publishers gave a shit.

The book was never described as "a look into the life and times of Prince's ex-wife" because no one cared. It was described as a "tell-all" about her life with Prince, who was still alive at the time. She was milking "Hollywood Exes" which had been canceled.

That alone tells me all I need to know, regardless of how I feel about her personal right to explore or speak about her pain. There were too many public displays of "here's Prince's shit he gave me (or that he left behind when we split) on auction" before he passed that made me question her motives, regardless of her desire or being coerced to move on with her life. Unfortunately, now - all bets are off.

Genesia said:

sonshine said:

luv4u said: Agreed. I do feel tho that individual orgers who repeatedly post the same shit have one intention: and that shouldn't be allowed. They have stated their opinion yet keep coming back here with unnecessary and increasingly hostile reminders of such. I'm cool if you don't intervene tho because I recognize it for the attention seeking behavior it is

Should we go back and count your posts in this thread? Pot...kettle...

benni said:

To me, it sounds as though those that are saying Mayte should not write about Ahmir that they are essentially saying that Mayte's feelings, needs, are not as important as Prince's. So she should just suck it up and never speak publically about Ahmir, because she doesn't matter. How many times does that happen? That a woman is told that what she feels, what she wants, what she needs, is not as important as what the man's wants, needs, or feels? If she were some unknown woman that had been married to some unknown man, would any of you care that she is writing about her baby? Or would you applaud her for having the courage to come out and talk about a subject that truly had an impact on her and her life? But since this is Prince we are talking about and his ex-wife and his child, no, the woman, the mother of the baby, should bow down and put the man first. She always did. But now, she chooses to talk about what is important to her. In all these years, she never mentioned his name, she never talked about what that experience was truly like for her, she respected Prince's desire for that privacy. Well, he's not here any more to care about what is revealed or not revealed. As he once said, "It all comes out in the wash, in time." That tells me that he knew there would be a time when all would be revealed.

I say both of them have value. Those of you saying that Prince wouldn't like this...Prince doesn't really care any more (in case you hadn't noticed). Prince is home. He is where he often sang of being. What us mere mortals do, still carrying around this bag of bones, holds no more importance to him. The people that matter now are those he left behind. And no, I'm not saying that Prince doesn't matter now, but he is no longer here to say what he wants or doesn't want. It falls to the estate, to those he left behind, to make the decisions they feel they need to make on what to reveal and what not to reveal. And in the grand scheme of things, what we want in regards to this, doesn't matter. We were always the ones sitting on the outside looking in. We still sit on the outside looking in."

I wish her well in her endeavors. I wish Mani well in her endeavors, too. Just as I do with Sheila and the others that were in his inner circle. What they do, has nothing to do with me or with you. They have to live by their conscience, as I have to live by mine.

Amen to this, Amen!

For over 20 years now Prince fans have wondered about Mayte's side of the story. We have had countless threads about Mayte on this site alone. I think it is fair that she has a chance to tell her side of the story. What was it like to be swept up into the life of a living legend at 16 years old? What was it like (horrible I assume) to have every aspect of your pregnancy captured only to have the child die so soon aftre birth? That is huge for any first time mother, never mind one who is living in a fishing bowl. The divorce, Mani, the friendship with Mani. So many things to speak of.

XxAxX said:

1Sasha said:

I agree with you.

Mind you I also believe people are free and within their right to criticize the book and its content. even for those who haven't read the entire book in my opinion they still have the right to express a negative opinion if they wish. No one has the right to say who can and cannot express an opinion about a book or even the concept behind the book, generally speaking. For me personally I think Mayte has every right to put her book out there. But I bet this will be a very very very long thread because I can understand why others might disagree. Hopefully things won't get childish and personal. I say this because it is not unheard of for the crazies here to try bullying tactics in order to suppress opinions they dislike. Time will tell [Edited 3/16/17 15:52pm]

I feel the same way. People should be free to express their opinions in a CONSTRUCTIVE way whether positive or negative. But, even though I choose not to read it, Mayte has the right to tell her story. I'm not going to bash her for doing so, even though I wish Prince was here to refute any negative implications in the book.

[Edited 3/16/17 15:58pm]

Count me in that group. I would assume it was at least someway about Mani and then I would come and asked the question. So is Bridle Path the street they lived on or the area. My Princedom isn't as deep as yours.

And since you are sharing your Princedom knowlede, what drug is Anna Stesia a reference to??? when the whole situation came out I was a sheltered 8th grader and never really thought it was that deep.

Thanks.

Militant said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said: He said many times he was open book because everything about him is in the songs. How much more plain could he have made himself.

Bingo.

Some people here would look at a song like "Call My Name" with the lyrics:

"Heard your voice this morning calling out my name
It had been so long since I heard it
That it didn't sound quite the same, no
But it let me know that my name had never really been spoken before
Before the day I carried you through the Bridle Path door"

and they would say "oh, we don't know who the song is about! We can't say for sure!"

Never mind the fact that the Bridle Path is literally the neighborhood where Prince and Mani lived after they got married.

Prince wrote everything about his life in his songs. Like most songwriters.

BillieBalloon said:

partyup77 said:

I am thrilled that this book is being published. Mayte is giving the world a primary source with insight to Prince and his life -- and their life together. More importantly than to us, who have had the opportunity to observe Prince thoughout his life -- this work will be an invaluable source to those in the future, many generations from now, who wish to gain insight to Prince as a historical figure.

A historial document you say? Ok lets see, well so far we got: A description of the babys physical deformities Prince had a gene defect Prince was stealing her Vicodin ...yeah .really important and will stand up there with Darwins theory of evolution Keep grasping.. . [Edited 3/16/17 14:54pm]

Yes, a historical document. And yes, so far all we have are a few sensationalistic tidbits to grab attention and promote the book. As someone who enjoys historical research and appreciates a variety of sources, I find great value in this publication. Trying to compare a memoir with Darwin's Theory is like comparing apples to oranges - which is a no, no. Trust me, I will keep grasping -- grasping this book off the shelf as soon as it hits my local bookshop.

purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:

1Sasha said: Mind you I also believe people are free and within their right to criticize the book and its content. even for those who haven't read the entire book in my opinion they still have the right to express a negative opinion if they wish. No one has the right to say who can and cannot express an opinion about a book or even the concept behind the book, generally speaking. For me personally I think Mayte has every right to put her book out there. But I bet this will be a very very very long thread because I can understand why others might disagree. Hopefully things won't get childish and personal. I say this because it is not unheard of for the crazies here to try bullying tactics in order to suppress opinions they dislike. Time will tell [Edited 3/16/17 15:52pm]

I feel the same way. People should be free to express their opinions in a CONSTRUCTIVE way whether positive or negative. But, even though I choose not to read it, Mayte has the right to tell her story. I'm not going to bash her for doing so, even though I wish Prince was here to refute any negative implications in the book.

[Edited 3/16/17 15:58pm]

as we often see here on the Org, one person's 'constructive' is another person's derogatory, and therefore imo no one person need be limited to living up to another person's definition when it comes to expressing opinions.*

as long as it is clearly understood, either through statement of intent or context, that the individual offering the opinion is not a teacher, professional critic, or otherwise operating in a capacity carrying with it professional responsibility or obligation, opinions can be just that. opinions.

otherwise, every single joke, smartass remark or one-off play could and likely would be taken as personal insult or outrageously harmful and snipped and etc. by those who take it upon themselves to deem their own opinions to be somehow above those of others.

*with the exception of one particular orger who appears to be engaged in a vendetta style airing of opinions. deliberate, all-out personal attacks designed to trash and humiliate are not really 'opinions', but rise to the level of something else entirely, don't they

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benni said:

Mayte's book is her story and that is what it is . But the People article that's a bit much. It leads you to believe that you are going to learn a whole lot of know things. But I don't we walk away with a better understanding of Prince and his drug additction/habit/abuse.

In a normal world I would run and biuy that people, but I will donate that money to a worthy cause.

He was controlling no doubt. But you forget who gave her away in the first place.

Why would you admire his love for her when you paint it in entirely negative ways. He sculpted her public image; but what do we really know about their private conversations. If her book states that Prince never allowed her to even express her opinions, then a.) I would have to question why she was even there (because most teenagers want to rebel and form their own opinion eventually--that's normal child/adult development.) or b.) I would have to wonder how her parents raised her.

annalizer said:

Mayte was the bride of Frankenstein that Prince created for himself. While i admired his love for her, he also robbed her of her own identity. She was young woman experiencing marriage and motherhood, but wasn't allowed to publicly celebrate the two most important events in her life. These events had to be shrouded in secrecy per Prince which indicates the marriage and child was more about him than it was about her, she was just the host. His actions with her entire pregnancy weren't right period! He really did reduce her to a muse in his ideal fantasy until reality struck and the "bride" became human and began dismantling all that he built around her.

laurarichardson said:

Genesia said:

She sure seemed to be when she got her tattoo right after he died. Filmed it, too - in front of her child.

--I question the need to even have an Rx for Vicoden after a C section. Usually they give you a pain killer in the hospital and a few take home. Makes me wonder who was giving who drugs. [Edited 3/16/17 14:36pm]

Laura, have you ever had a C-Section? I have. I've had 3. And you question the need to take home a script for pain pills, after being cut from hip to hip? Are you freaking kidding me?

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

How would you know if he wanted to be married or not? How do you know if he was ready or not for marriage? You don't.

Because maybe a guy that is ready for marriage is not juggling two other women while he is dating his intended. Maybe a man that is ready does not bare his wife from the house hair salon or tell her to not call him when he is on the road. Maybe a man who is ready does not put his wife in a another country and leave her there. Maybe a man that wants to stay married does not flaunt his side price around in public. He wanted out of the marriage for some reason or wanted to be with her because of the baby. Now use use the search key and look all of this up.

Face it, you don't have a clue on what Prince thought about anything. So don't even act like you do.

partyup77 said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Face it, you don't have a clue on what Prince thought about anything. So don't even act like you do.

I just gave you facts that you can verify which will not bother to do but I do not know anything. Actions speak louder than words and his actions told everything.

You don't have facts of what that man wanted to do or didn't want to do. You are just another fan of his, like the rest of us....no more, no less.

BillieBalloon said:

annalizer said:

BillieBalloon said:

partyup77 said:

I am thrilled that this book is being published. Mayte is giving the world a primary source with insight to Prince and his life -- and their life together. More importantly than to us, who have had the opportunity to observe Prince thoughout his life -- this work will be an invaluable source to those in the future, many generations from now, who wish to gain insight to Prince as a historical figure.

A historial document you say? Ok lets see, well so far we got: A description of the babys physical deformities Prince had a gene defect Prince was stealing her Vicodin ...yeah .really important and will stand up there with Darwins theory of evolution Keep grasping.. . [Edited 3/16/17 14:54pm]

Thank you! People need to stop fronting. If they want to read the dirt they should just come out and say so and stop trying to play high-brow.

THIS is the kind of historical insight that future generations will glean from this book. Let's not pretend that she isn't media savvy enough to know that the most salacious details are what will get emphasized by the media.




How Prince Dragged His Grieving Wife Out of Bed Soon After Son Died for an Oprah Interview

http://people.com/music/p...ons-death/

The ridiculous thing is that from what we know, she's not dogging him out in the book - but just telling her side of the story.

If Prince had managed to complete his book - and for argument's sake let's say he dogged out Mayte, Mani, Carmen, Vanity, Wendy, Lisa, anyone........ Would anyone here be jumping to their defence and saying that Prince shouldn't have written his book etc etc etc? No, of course not. Because he is entitled to his side of the story and Mayte is entitled to hers.

Right now, people are judging someone they don't know for writing a book they haven't read that's about a relationship they weren't in. And why? Because Prince didn't want her to write it? Well, let me tell you all something - there were times where he didn't want any of us talking about him on this very forum either. Other people will use that as some sort of twisted evidence that none of us should even be here doing what we're doing right now. Other times, he'd happily log on himself and chuckle at some of the nonsense that gets posted on here. Hell, he said it himself in the AOL chat with that journalist who passed away - he asked her if she ever read prince.org and that some stuff was fun to read. And he would relay messages to us many times, even up until his passing, through Tyka, Meron, Julia, Trevor......whoever was around.

laurarichardson said:

Genesia said:

She sure seemed to be when she got her tattoo right after he died. Filmed it, too - in front of her child.

--I question the need to even have an Rx for Vicoden after a C section. Usually they give you a pain killer in the hospital and a few take home. Makes me wonder who was giving who drugs. [Edited 3/16/17 14:36pm]

Wow! That's low...even for you. I personally know a few women that were given Vicodin after their C-sections. Hell, I know a couple that were given the stronger pain-killer Percocet. So clearly you really don't know what the hell you are talking about and are just trying to vilify that woman by any means necessary. Shame on you!

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mnfriend said:

laurarichardson said:

--I question the need to even have an Rx for Vicoden after a C section. Usually they give you a pain killer in the hospital and a few take home. Makes me wonder who was giving who drugs. [Edited 3/16/17 14:36pm]

*okay, NO. Gotta say NO here. Surgery cutting you open across your belly, and then again wide swath thru your uterus, hell yeah pain pills. Hell yeah. All 3 times. A script to take home w/ you.

I don't think she has clue what a C-Sect is. LOL

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

laurarichardson said:

--I question the need to even have an Rx for Vicoden after a C section. Usually they give you a pain killer in the hospital and a few take home. Makes me wonder who was giving who drugs. [Edited 3/16/17 14:36pm]

Wow! That's low...even for you. I personally know a few women that were given Vicodin after their C-sections. Hell, I know a couple that were given the stronger pain-killer Percocet. So clearly you really don't know what the hell you are talking about and are just trying to vilify that woman by any means necessary. Shame on you!

[Edited 3/16/17 17:14pm]

Yes, it is pretty low of her & I agree with you, it shows she doesn't know what she's talking about.

paulludvig said:

christraceyparade said:

Whew..this is going to be long. I never comment here. Always been a lurker like so many...but not so much since Prince has passed...because quite honestly, what is there to talk about? I wanted to share my thoughts about Mayte's book and the People story because it's been heavy on my heart since reading it yesterday. Everyone has an opinion and I respect whatever choice you make, so please respect mine.

I have always liked Mayte...she's pretty and talented, but I am a Prince fan first. I often reminice about the time I had a chance to dance with the dearly beloved on stage about 7 years ago when he invited folks on stage to jam. I had the pleasure of him giving me a bright, beautiful long gaze accompanied by a cute smile while I did my shimmy. I saw the magic and vulnerability in eyes as he looked down at the floor sadly before going into the pit of the stage. Deep down...I knew something was disturbingly wrong with him. If you saw his look, you would understand. He went from being really pumped on stage to looking like a sad, lonely, young boy in an instant. I also felt sad for him...in that instant and I felt that same sadness for him yesterday when I read the People story. Some of us kind of assumed that Prince had some real issues and unfortunately we all found out for sure the hardest way possible when he died.

It hurts me that Mayte is sharing his inner most, dark secrets with the world especially only one year after his death. We all know how secretive this man was. I find it hard for her to say she still loves him and then betray his trust like she's doing. It doesn't matter if he is dead or alive. The people that love you the most should respect and defend you even when you're gone.

IN MY OPINION, she has no right to tell things that Prince would not want told. Period. Obviously he did not want the intimate, intricate details of what happened to their child...what his deformity looked like, what tests they did or didn't take, and whatever else shared with the world. Imagine if your spouse/significant other, mother, father or whoever told your innermost, dark secrets to the tabloids and released a book around the 1st anniversary of your death. You would of course have to be famous for anyone to care and that's exactly why Mayte got her book deal. Not because she wanted to share her story, but to tell or sell her story about Prince. I am so sorry for her pain and suffering, but if Prince was not attached to the story, no one would care. I know that is tough to say or hear, but its the truth and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

This book was in the works within weeks of his death...is that love? At least Priscilla Presley waited years before writing about Elvis. This lady did not wait until this man's body was good and cold before she signed on the dotted line to betray him in the name of love. Where's Lisa-Marie's book about Michael? I'm sure she has some hurt and pain she would like to get off her chest from her marriage to him. If she has one, I never heard of it.

Mayte comes off as self-serving. She struck while the iron was hot and is now promoting her tell-all around the best marketing draw ever...the anniversary of his death. Genius! Plus, she's giving particial proceeds to the charity dear to her heart, not charity's Prince supported or a charity to support Pfeiffer syndrome research or support.

Since she was a child, her parent's one goal was to make her famous. They let Prince have her at a young age. The plan was working until it didn't. Now, its her time to be famous, not just with Prince fans, but the world...all off the back of this man's misery.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of Prince's wives, girlfriends, friends, bandmates that are happy now that he is dead, because now they can finally shine...it's sound very cynical and sad, but let's call it what it really is.

I understand how the the random fan or non-fans would fawn over her book, but as a true fan, I would find it hard to read the intimate details of this man's pain while drinking my morning coffee. I made the mistake of reading the People story and well, here I am.

You can agree or disagree with me, whatever. Blast me and tell me not to buy the book then if I'm so disgusted...blah, blah, blah.

Like I said before, everyone has there opinion and I have mine. If she or her supporters don't want opinions that align with their dreams of a national bestseller, then she shouldn't have opened her self up to ALL opinions by making her story public.

This is how I feel as a Prince fan. Maybe, I will feel different in a couple of years, but because his death is still so fresh...it hurts. Peace to you all.

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[Edited 3/16/17 7:18am]

Agree with every word.