independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > The Estate Discussion - Part 7 - Continued
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 14 of 24 « First<101112131415161718>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #390 posted 04/06/17 11:30am

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge's Order today approving Bremer's attorney fees

contained some interesting information.

  1. Comerica shall continue to search for assets
  2. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the return of the commission paid to Londell by Jobu
  3. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the Cousins/Church fiasco
  4. Prince owned over 40 business entities
  5. Prince had a warehouse with over 1,500 boxes contained in it
  6. Bremer coordinated with the investigations by the DEA and US Attorneys Office
  7. There were audits of P's 2009-2012 income tax returns
  8. Bremer investigated P's ownership in a charity entity and loans made to it
  9. There is/was some sort of litigation with the Turks and Caicos property
  10. The judgment from Italy against P for copyright infringement is still being pursued
  11. Brianna made an allegation of breach of contract (huh?)
  12. Some heirs objected to the UMG deal
  13. The Judge noted that none of the attorneys that started on the case are still around
  14. The Judge also gave a tongue lashing to the heirs and their attorneys: "The fragmented shotgun blast of activity that occurred at the beginning of this proceeding with a criminal investigation, an informal but overwhelming need for the community to grieve, create a memorial, gain information through the media and the need to search a vault, a seemingly endless supply of banker boxes, file cabinets and business records has given way to much more intense litigation and negotiations regarding heirs, claim against the Estate and entertainment deals. Current counsel do not recall or recognize that the Special Administrator did everything it could to stay out of of the Tribute Concert, leaving it to the heirs to deal with, only to get dragged in at the last minute as things unraveled and time became critical. Now the Special Administrator and its counsel are criticized for being too involved in the Tribute Concert."
  15. Throughout the proceeding and most certainly by the fall of 2016 there was constant "chaffing" over the recommendations of the Special Administrator which increased attorney fees for everyone.
  16. The Judge noted the heirs complain about the Special Administrator's attorney fees yet their attorney fees are in the millions.
  17. The Judge doesnt think it is prudent to investigate Londell but will do at the request of some of the heirs.
  18. Ditto for the church fiasco
  19. There was a separate Order by the Judge regarding the confidential and privileged information with P's prior attorneys, Henson and Efron. The Judge is allowing them to share this information with Comerica.



Thanks. Some of this I wasn't grasping. I saw the 40 business entities, I wonder what that's about. Looks like Comerica has a lot to roll up their sleeves about.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #391 posted 04/06/17 11:33am

laurarichardso
n

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge's Order today approving Bremer's attorney fees

contained some interesting information.

  1. Comerica shall continue to search for assets
  2. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the return of the commission paid to Londell by Jobu
  3. Comerica shall investigate whether any action should be pursued for the Cousins/Church fiasco
  4. Prince owned over 40 business entities
  5. Prince had a warehouse with over 1,500 boxes contained in it
  6. Bremer coordinated with the investigations by the DEA and US Attorneys Office
  7. There were audits of P's 2009-2012 income tax returns
  8. Bremer investigated P's ownership in a charity entity and loans made to it
  9. There is/was some sort of litigation with the Turks and Caicos property
  10. The judgment from Italy against P for copyright infringement is still being pursued
  11. Brianna made an allegation of breach of contract (huh?)
  12. Some heirs objected to the UMG deal
  13. The Judge noted that none of the attorneys that started on the case are still around
  14. The Judge also gave a tongue lashing to the heirs and their attorneys: "The fragmented shotgun blast of activity that occurred at the beginning of this proceeding with a criminal investigation, an informal but overwhelming need for the community to grieve, create a memorial, gain information through the media and the need to search a vault, a seemingly endless supply of banker boxes, file cabinets and business records has given way to much more intense litigation and negotiations regarding heirs, claim against the Estate and entertainment deals. Current counsel do not recall or recognize that the Special Administrator did everything it could to stay out of of the Tribute Concert, leaving it to the heirs to deal with, only to get dragged in at the last minute as things unraveled and time became critical. Now the Special Administrator and its counsel are criticized for being too involved in the Tribute Concert."
  15. Throughout the proceeding and most certainly by the fall of 2016 there was constant "chaffing" over the recommendations of the Special Administrator which increased attorney fees for everyone.
  16. The Judge noted the heirs complain about the Special Administrator's attorney fees yet their attorney fees are in the millions.
  17. The Judge doesnt think it is prudent to investigate Londell but will do at the request of some of the heirs.
  18. Ditto for the church fiasco
  19. There was a separate Order by the Judge regarding the confidential and privileged information with P's prior attorneys, Henson and Efron. The Judge is allowing them to share this information with Comerica.



Thanks. Some of this I wasn't grasping. I saw the 40 business entities, I wonder what that's about. Looks like Comerica has a lot to roll up their sleeves about.

Some of the business entities were in the original inventory sheets it looked some were inactive.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #392 posted 04/07/17 5:14pm

morningsong

Request for Trial Court Record? Wonder what that's about?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #393 posted 04/07/17 5:30pm

tmo1965

Lovejunky said:

tmo1965 said:

Carlin's mom was barely legal when Carlin was born. So, if Carlin is really Prince's brother, that means that John L was dirty old man like his son Prince was.

I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man

To imply that is disgusting of you !

Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #394 posted 04/07/17 5:34pm

tmo1965

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Lovejunky said:

I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man

To imply that is disgusting of you !

I agree ...seems a few are not here for Prince and like to throw shade.

I am here for Prince. I have thought of him every day since he died. My heart is eternally broken. However, I understand that he was a human being subject to human flaws like everyone else.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #395 posted 04/07/17 5:43pm

morningsong

tmo1965 said:

Lovejunky said:

I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man

To imply that is disgusting of you !

Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!



Oh my goodness. lol You tryin' to give folks heart attacks around here.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #396 posted 04/07/17 6:26pm

laurarichardso
n

tmo1965 said:



Lovejunky said:




tmo1965 said:



Carlin's mom was barely legal when Carlin was born. So, if Carlin is really Prince's brother, that means that John L was dirty old man like his son Prince was.



I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man



To imply that is disgusting of you !




Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!


----From Mayte own book she dying to get with him and so was Anna. These women were of age when he became involved with them. He was not a child molester.
[Edited 4/7/17 18:26pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #397 posted 04/07/17 6:31pm

Mumio

avatar

tmo1965 said:

Lovejunky said:

I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man

To imply that is disgusting of you !

Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!


Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them. ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.

[Edited 4/7/17 18:47pm]

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #398 posted 04/07/17 6:35pm

laurarichardso
n

Mumio said:



tmo1965 said:




Lovejunky said:



I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man



To imply that is disgusting of you !




Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!




Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find a find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.


____ They wanted to be with him.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #399 posted 04/07/17 6:36pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

avatar

tmo1965 said:

Lovejunky said:

I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man

To imply that is disgusting of you !

Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!

WTF is this all about?

Why are you here?

Move on little doggy.

shoot2 machinegun

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #400 posted 04/07/17 6:40pm

zenarose

Mumio said:



tmo1965 said:




Lovejunky said:



I object to that comment....Prince was NOT a dirty Old man



To imply that is disgusting of you !




Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!




Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them. ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find a find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.

[Edited 4/7/17 18:36pm]





MUMIO: when I was 16, my Nanny ( Grandmother) would call them "Hot Tailed Hussies"
LOL biggrin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #401 posted 04/07/17 7:12pm

Mumio

avatar

zenarose said:

Mumio said:


Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them. ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find a find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.

[Edited 4/7/17 18:36pm]

MUMIO: when I was 16, my Nanny ( Grandmother) would call them "Hot Tailed Hussies" LOL biggrin



Hahahahahahahahaha!!! nod lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #402 posted 04/07/17 7:25pm

PurpleDiamonds
1

Mumio said:



zenarose said:


Mumio said:



Just going to point out something here because double standards don't work for me: ALL of these women returned the attention. Every last one of them. ALL went to be with him, I'm gonna be bold and say they were eager to do so lol and did not hide that from anyone, did they? And not one of them had an issue with how much older he was than they were. So what exactly does that make them? Young women willing to go with an older, wealthy, famous man? Please find a find an equally descriptive term and let us know. I don't have an issue with what anyone's actions were in these scenarios.


[Edited 4/7/17 18:36pm]



MUMIO: when I was 16, my Nanny ( Grandmother) would call them "Hot Tailed Hussies" LOL biggrin



Hahahahahahahahaha!!! nod lol



lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #403 posted 04/07/17 11:15pm

Lovejunky

morningsong said:

tmo1965 said:

Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!



Oh my goodness. lol You tryin' to give folks heart attacks around here.

see tmo1965

a Dirty Old man means something completely different...

A Dirty old Man dreams of getting young girls...He doest have young girls throwing themselves at him

a Dirty old man is Leery and Gross....nothing SEXY about him...

Prince on the other hand...forget his age ....was sexy as EFF ,and in a very unique position in that all his wealth fame and power didnt turn him lecherous creep ...THESE girls all wanted to bathe in his light...

Nothing Dirty about that...

Now had Prince been an ugly toad who used his fame and money to manipulate these girls it would have been different...but he wasnt...

Find me one quote from,just one young woman out of all the supposed 100,s hes been with who feels hardly done, by...who feels Grossed out by their encounters, who feels that he used them, who feels regretful of the encounter...???

You cant take Prince out of the picture and compare him to any ordinairy old man...

he was NOT ordinairy...

He had some kind of Charisma that the world doesnt get to see very often..

Most people it seems were rendered speechless around him..Grown men turned to Fools..

and Girls were turned into
Well...I believe the word "Puddles"has been used once or twice

[Edited 4/7/17 23:23pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #404 posted 04/08/17 1:22am

TheEnglishGent

avatar

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!

----From Mayte own book she dying to get with him and so was Anna. These women were of age when he became involved with them. He was not a child molester. [Edited 4/7/17 18:26pm]

A dirty old man is not nearly the same as a child molester. Prince liked women young, this is a fact. Yes these women wanted him too, many women did. Prince chose to be with the younger ones. This is undeniable.

RIP sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #405 posted 04/08/17 4:46am

zenarose

TheEnglishGent said:



laurarichardson said:


tmo1965 said:


Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!



----From Mayte own book she dying to get with him and so was Anna. These women were of age when he became involved with them. He was not a child molester. [Edited 4/7/17 18:26pm]

A dirty old man is not nearly the same as a child molester. Prince liked women young, this is a fact. Yes these women wanted him too, many women did. Prince chose to be with the younger ones. This is undeniable.





I don't know your age bracket but I can tell you that when I was a teen.... 13 year olds were feelin' their wheaties. (😂) By 16 Mamas were praying for their daughters to graduate from high school and find a nice boy to marry. There were many girls at my school dating men several years older than they were. The older guys wanted young girls. My point..... I am 2 years older than P, so during this time frame that was a "dude thing". Can't blame this on him. It is / was society. Lots of 16 year old girls were getting married to 20 something year old men.
I was no stranger to being pursued by older men. Sometimes it was gross and sometimes it was exillerating.
P wasn't a dirty old man. I believe that he was getting attention that he didn't get growing up. He was handsome, sexy, and..... SMOKIN'. He took advantage of that. But in my opinion it wasn't all about sex. I think it was attention, companionship (natural not forced). Possibly just a hug, holding hands, warmth from another human being. That has absolutely nothing to do with bumpin' fuzz.
[Edited 4/8/17 4:48am]
[Edited 4/8/17 4:51am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #406 posted 04/08/17 6:04am

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

avatar

morningsong said:

Request for Trial Court Record? Wonder what that's about?

The Appellate Court needs a copy of the Probate Court records for the Appeal.

That means a copy of the entire Probate Court filings including transcripts

of all hearings, and all exhibits.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #407 posted 04/08/17 3:03pm

laurarichardso
n

zenarose said:

TheEnglishGent said:



laurarichardson said:


tmo1965 said:


Prince had earned himself a reputation as a dirty old man by going after teenage girls when he was in his 30's. Mayte was only 16 when he saw fit to keep in contact with her. When she was legal, he took her virginity. He waited until Anna Garcia was legal before he slept with her. Both of his wives were 15 yrs and 18 yrs his junior respectively. He continued to associate with 20-something year olds right up until the day he died. So yes, he fits my definition of a DIRTY OLD MAN!



----From Mayte own book she dying to get with him and so was Anna. These women were of age when he became involved with them. He was not a child molester. [Edited 4/7/17 18:26pm]

A dirty old man is not nearly the same as a child molester. Prince liked women young, this is a fact. Yes these women wanted him too, many women did. Prince chose to be with the younger ones. This is undeniable.





I don't know your age bracket but I can tell you that when I was a teen.... 13 year olds were feelin' their wheaties. (😂) By 16 Mamas were praying for their daughters to graduate from high school and find a nice boy to marry. There were many girls at my school dating men several years older than they were. The older guys wanted young girls. My point..... I am 2 years older than P, so during this time frame that was a "dude thing". Can't blame this on him. It is / was society. Lots of 16 year old girls were getting married to 20 something year old men.
I was no stranger to being pursued by older men. Sometimes it was gross and sometimes it was exillerating.
P wasn't a dirty old man. I believe that he was getting attention that he didn't get growing up. He was handsome, sexy, and..... SMOKIN'. He took advantage of that. But in my opinion it wasn't all about sex. I think it was attention, companionship (natural not forced). Possibly just a hug, holding hands, warmth from another human being. That has absolutely nothing to do with bumpin' fuzz.
[Edited 4/8/17 4:48am]
[Edited 4/8/17 4:51am]

I do not think he was a sex crazed maniac. Devin Devasuez said they use to lay in bed and talk for hours. A really think a lot of the women chasing was for companionship. He took care of a lot of people and sometimes you need somebody to take care of you.
[Edited 4/8/17 15:46pm]
[Edited 4/8/17 15:47pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #408 posted 04/08/17 3:11pm

zenarose

laurarichardson said:

zenarose said:





I don't know your age bracket but I can tell you that when I was a teen.... 13 year olds were feelin' their wheaties. (😂) By 16 Mamas were praying for their daughters to graduate from high school and find a nice boy to marry. There were many girls at my school dating men several years older than they were. The older guys wanted young girls. My point..... I am 2 years older than P, so during this time frame that was a "dude thing". Can't blame this on him. It is / was society. Lots of 16 year old girls were getting married to 20 something year old men.
I was no stranger to being pursued by older men. Sometimes it was gross and sometimes it was exillerating.
P wasn't a dirty old man. I believe that he was getting attention that he didn't get growing up. He was handsome, sexy, and..... SMOKIN'. He took advantage of that. But in my opinion it wasn't all about sex. I think it was attention, companionship (natural not forced). Possibly just a hug, holding hands, warmth from another human being. That has absolutely nothing to do with bumpin' fuzz.
[Edited 4/8/17 4:48am]
[Edited 4/8/17 4:51am]

I do not think he was a sec crazed maniac. Devin Devasuez said they use to lay in bed and talk for hours. A really think a lot of the women chasing was for companionship. He took care of a lot of people and sometimes you need somebody to take care if you.



Agreed!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #409 posted 04/08/17 5:23pm

DD55

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Sadly Laura that is usually what happens when you donate to any charity.
--Well Prince never asked for donations for his charity. I believe it was his money. I will probaly have retype it on here because I cannot cut and paste the doc. One of the people who received money was Kat Dyson.

Laura, I found a few years' tax returns. Did you find years I missed (see list below)?

.

After Van's tearful statements on TV I was curious.

.

Distributions from Love4oneanother Tax Return 2001

Museum of African American History 7,000

The City Inc 7,000

Friends of the Von D Mizness Library 8,000

Dignity House 4,000

Black America Relief Fund 52,000

Melville J Herskwoitz Library of African Studies 17,000

Louisville Free Public Library 12,000

Home for Live 12,000

Redemptorist Social Services 8,000

Circle of Discipline 5,000

Just food 10,000

Joyce nursery School 7,000

Lil Angel Bunny Foundation 5,000

Royal Family Kids Camp 4,000

African American Adoption Agency 8,000

Great Basketball Dribble Medical research 2,500

Schomburh Center for Research 17,000

La Foundation de L Hospital de Montreal 25,000

Campus Crusade for Christ 3,000

Positive Education Program 10,000

Where’s my girl at 10,000

Rica Association 3,000

Trust acct for Neki Miraka – Medical assistance 2,000

Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witness 40,000

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society 110,000

.

If typed everything it should total 395,500 (all USD)

Sorry for any typos, I don’t have my glasses on.

.

I couldn’t find returns for 2002, 2003, 2004 (and I wasn’t willing to pay to see them)

I found 2005, 2006 and 2007, let’s just say the charity should have renamed Love4JW, of course there were other small donations to other charities, including Rosie Gaines 15K(?) and his wife’s charity at least (50K).

.

2007 was the last year tax returns were filed, after 3 years of not filing returns he lost tax-exempt status of the charity. I could not find any more information, if there is more info out there I could not find it perhaps someone can fill in the blanks.

.

For informational purposes only. All this is public informaton.

.

Have to run to work, if I missed any thing or made any mistakes, I’ll review it tomorrow (working overnight shift).

.

Peace ~ DD55

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #410 posted 04/08/17 6:25pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

avatar

DD55

I couldn’t find returns for 2002, 2003, 2004 (and I wasn’t willing to pay to see them)

I found 2005, 2006 and 2007, let’s just say the charity should have renamed Love4JW, of course there were other small donations to other charities, including Rosie Gaines 15K(?) and his wife’s charity at least (50K).

.

2007 was the last year tax returns were filed, after 3 years of not filing returns he lost tax-exempt status of the charity. I could not find any more information, if there is more info out there I could not find it perhaps someone can fill in the blanks.

.

For informational purposes only. All this is public informaton.

.

Have to run to work, if I missed any thing or made any mistakes, I’ll review it tomorrow (working overnight shift).

.

Peace ~ DD55

Thanks DD55

Love4JW lol lol lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #411 posted 04/08/17 9:12pm

PurpleDiamonds
1

Wouldn't it be nice if some of those charities donated back to help PP?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #412 posted 04/09/17 1:32pm

laurarichardso
n

DD55 said:



laurarichardson said:


PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Sadly Laura that is usually what happens when you donate to any charity.

--Well Prince never asked for donations for his charity. I believe it was his money. I will probaly have retype it on here because I cannot cut and paste the doc. One of the people who received money was Kat Dyson.

Laura, I found a few years' tax returns. Did you find years I missed (see list below)?


.


After Van's tearful statements on TV I was curious.


.


Distributions from Love4oneanother Tax Return 2001


Museum of African American History 7,000


The City Inc 7,000


Friends of the Von D Mizness Library 8,000


Dignity House 4,000


Black America Relief Fund 52,000


Melville J Herskwoitz Library of African Studies 17,000


Louisville Free Public Library 12,000


Home for Live 12,000


Redemptorist Social Services 8,000


Circle of Discipline 5,000


Just food 10,000


Joyce nursery School 7,000


Lil Angel Bunny Foundation 5,000


Royal Family Kids Camp 4,000


African American Adoption Agency 8,000


Great Basketball Dribble Medical research 2,500


Schomburh Center for Research 17,000


La Foundation de L Hospital de Montreal 25,000


Campus Crusade for Christ 3,000


Positive Education Program 10,000


Where’s my girl at 10,000


Rica Association 3,000


Trust acct for Neki Miraka – Medical assistance 2,000


Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witness 40,000


Watchtower Bible and Tract Society 110,000


.


If typed everything it should total 395,500 (all USD)


Sorry for any typos, I don’t have my glasses on.


.


I couldn’t find returns for 2002, 2003, 2004 (and I wasn’t willing to pay to see them)


I found 2005, 2006 and 2007, let’s just say the charity should have renamed Love4JW, of course there were other small donations to other charities, including Rosie Gaines 15K(?) and his wife’s charity at least (50K).


.


2007 was the last year tax returns were filed, after 3 years of not filing returns he lost tax-exempt status of the charity. I could not find any more information, if there is more info out there I could not find it perhaps someone can fill in the blanks.


.


For informational purposes only. All this is public informaton.


.


Have to run to work, if I missed any thing or made any mistakes, I’ll review it tomorrow (working overnight shift).


.


Peace ~ DD55




Remember JW donate a lot of money to charities as that is a part of their faith. The one I have a copy of has no date on it but it appears to follow the cites he toured during Musicolgy. Remember this was his money to donate had he saw fit and it appears to have continued after he shut down LFOA. I do not doubt he meant well.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #413 posted 04/09/17 2:24pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



morningsong said:


Request for Trial Court Record? Wonder what that's about?



The Appellate Court needs a copy of the Probate Court records for the Appeal.


That means a copy of the entire Probate Court filings including transcripts


of all hearings, and all exhibits.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #414 posted 04/09/17 2:26pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



morningsong said:


Request for Trial Court Record? Wonder what that's about?



The Appellate Court needs a copy of the Probate Court records for the Appeal.


That means a copy of the entire Probate Court filings including transcripts


of all thearings, and all exhibits.




Is that the norm as in getting all the little ducks lined up, or is something more possibly brewing?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #415 posted 04/09/17 8:43pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

avatar

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Appellate Court needs a copy of the Probate Court records for the Appeal.

That means a copy of the entire Probate Court filings including transcripts

of all thearings, and all exhibits.

Is that the norm as in getting all the little ducks lined up, or is something more possibly brewing?

Its just the norm for the peeps that are appealing the rulings of the Judge that excluded them as an heir.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #416 posted 04/10/17 7:33am

laurarichardso
n

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

I read the article about the charity in San Jose but I did not see that she was found guilty of any wrong doing and I do not think that Van was on CNN crying fake tears. You realize also he works for CNN so that was the reason he was on the network.

history has a way of repeating.. they settled out of court...it was still wrong and shady! No one has the answers to this but her. To get back to 2014-2016, Instead of her putting a huge career achievement of helping P get his masters back on linkedin she has now deleted working for P? [Edited 3/30/17 13:08pm]

---------

Article about Rhonda Trotter who also worked on the Masters negotiation. Could she have POA

http://www.apks.com/en/perspectives/news/2014/04/20140419_noted_copyright_lawyer_helps_pr_10

698

Kaye Scholer’s Rhonda Trotter Helps Prince Gain Back Rights to Recordings

April 19, 2014

For Immediate Release

Kaye Scholer’s Rhonda Trotter Helps Prince Gain Back Rights to Recordings

Los Angeles: Partner Rhonda Trotter, Co-Head of Kaye Scholer’s Trademark, Copyright & False Advertising Practice, helped put an end to rock icon Prince’s 20-year battle with Warner Brothers Records this week, when she secured the musician’s ownership of his master recordings. Under the terms of a new global partnership which she helped negotiate on Prince’s behalf, Warner Brothers granted back all of Prince’s rights in his recorded music catalogue, which includes best-selling albums such as Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. In exchange, Prince allows Warner Brothers licensing rights to digitally remaster and reissue the albums he produced from 1978-1990.

Called a “landmark deal” by Billboard, this is one of the few times that an artist has obtained back copyright rights to his master recordings in recent memory, and was reached in the midst of much discussion about the extent to which recording artists will succeed in using the termination provisions of the Copyright Act of 1976. Those provisions allow recording artists to terminate their copyright grants to record companies after 35 years, however, record companies have hinted they may challenge those terminations on various grounds, including that the recordings were purportedly “works for hire” and therefore not eligible for termination under the Act.

The deal comes just a few months before the 30th anniversary of Prince’s Purple Rain album and motion picture. Purple Rain went platinum thirteen times, and in 2008, Entertainment Weekly crowned it the number one album issued in the last 25 years. In 2012, the Library of Congress added Purple Rain to its National Recording Registry list of sound recordings that "are culturally, historically, or aesthetically important, and/or inform or reflect life in the United States."

Representing music industry clients in copyright matters is nothing new for Trotter. In 2012, Trotter served as lead counsel on behalf of independent record distributor Central South Distribution, Inc., in breach of contract and copyright infringement action concerning recordings that pop singer Adam Lambert worked prior to appearing on American Idol in Burtscher, et al. v. Moore, et al. (C.D. Cal.).

In 2003, she served as co-trial counsel in TVT Records v. The Island Def Jam Music Group (S.D.N.Y.). a lawsuit filed by an independent record label against a media conglomerate involving claims of fraud, willful copyright infringement, tortious interference with contract and breach of contract. A federal jury returned a verdict subsequently listed by The National Law Journal as number 17 on its list of the “Top 100 Verdicts of 2003.”

Trotter is regularly recognized as a leading IP attorney, most recently in Best Lawyers in America for trademark law, as well as in Managing IP’s IP Star-s Top 250 Women In IP 2013 and by World Trademark Review 1000 2014 in which clients describe her as an “excellent trial lawyer” with “a real knack for communicating complicated concepts to a judge or jury.” She was also named to the Los Angeles Business Journal’s “Angelenos to Know in Intellectual Property Law” list in 2012―one of 40 Los Angeles County lawyers to be selected for their outstanding achievements in the field.

A graduate of Stanford University, Trotter received her JD from the University of California at Berkeley (Boalt Hall), where she was Senior Articles Editor of the California Law Review, winner of the McBaine Moot Court Honors Program, and recipient of the Stephen Finney Jamison Award for outstanding scholarship and advocacy. She currently serves as Office Managing Partner of Kaye Scholer’s Los Angeles office.

Kaye Scholer’s Intellectual Property Department focuses on resolving disputes, both in and out of the courtroom. With an emphasis on patent litigation, we combine sophisticated scientific, technical and business knowledge with extensive courtroom experience. We also represent clients in high-stakes trademark, false advertising, and copyright litigation and advise companies on trade secrets protection, as well as hearings before the PTO. Finally, we advise on technology and outsourcing issues, as well as litigation and public policy issues related to cybersecurity and data privacy working in conjunction with Kaye Scholer’s transactional practices and our Global Cybersecurity & Privacy Group.

SHARE THIS WITH OTHERS:

RELATED SERVICES

Intellectual Property Trademark, False Adverti...mpetition

MEDIA CONTACT

Nicole Houston
Director, Marketing Communications
Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP
601 Mass. Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20001-3743
Nicole.Houston@apks.com
202.942.6418
202.942.5999 Fax

[Edited 4/10/17 7:33am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #417 posted 04/10/17 8:44am

DD55

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said: history has a way of repeating.. they settled out of court...it was still wrong and shady! No one has the answers to this but her. To get back to 2014-2016, Instead of her putting a huge career achievement of helping P get his masters back on linkedin she has now deleted working for P? [Edited 3/30/17 13:08pm]

---------

Article about Rhonda Trotter who also worked on the Masters negotiation. Could she have POA

http://www.apks.com/en/perspectives/news/2014/04/20140419_noted_copyright_lawyer_helps_pr_10

698

Kaye Scholer’s Rhonda Trotter Helps Prince Gain Back Rights to Recordings

April 19, 2014

For Immediate Release

Kaye Scholer’s Rhonda Trotter Helps Prince Gain Back Rights to Recordings

Los Angeles: Partner Rhonda Trotter, Co-Head of Kaye Scholer’s Trademark, Copyright & False Advertising Practice, helped put an end to rock icon Prince’s 20-year battle with Warner Brothers Records this week, when she secured the musician’s ownership of his master recordings. Under the terms of a new global partnership which she helped negotiate on Prince’s behalf, Warner Brothers granted back all of Prince’s rights in his recorded music catalogue, which includes best-selling albums such as Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. In exchange, Prince allows Warner Brothers licensing rights to digitally remaster and reissue the albums he produced from 1978-1990.

Called a “landmark deal” by Billboard, this is one of the few times that an artist has obtained back copyright rights to his master recordings in recent memory, and was reached in the midst of much discussion about the extent to which recording artists will succeed in using the termination provisions of the Copyright Act of 1976. Those provisions allow recording artists to terminate their copyright grants to record companies after 35 years, however, record companies have hinted they may challenge those terminations on various grounds, including that the recordings were purportedly “works for hire” and therefore not eligible for termination under the Act.

The deal comes just a few months before the 30th anniversary of Prince’s Purple Rain album and motion picture. Purple Rain went platinum thirteen times, and in 2008, Entertainment Weekly crowned it the number one album issued in the last 25 years. In 2012, the Library of Congress added Purple Rain to its National Recording Registry list of sound recordings that "are culturally, historically, or aesthetically important, and/or inform or reflect life in the United States."

Representing music industry clients in copyright matters is nothing new for Trotter. In 2012, Trotter served as lead counsel on behalf of independent record distributor Central South Distribution, Inc., in breach of contract and copyright infringement action concerning recordings that pop singer Adam Lambert worked prior to appearing on American Idol in Burtscher, et al. v. Moore, et al. (C.D. Cal.).

In 2003, she served as co-trial counsel in TVT Records v. The Island Def Jam Music Group (S.D.N.Y.). a lawsuit filed by an independent record label against a media conglomerate involving claims of fraud, willful copyright infringement, tortious interference with contract and breach of contract. A federal jury returned a verdict subsequently listed by The National Law Journal as number 17 on its list of the “Top 100 Verdicts of 2003.”

Trotter is regularly recognized as a leading IP attorney, most recently in Best Lawyers in America for trademark law, as well as in Managing IP’s IP Star-s Top 250 Women In IP 2013 and by World Trademark Review 1000 2014 in which clients describe her as an “excellent trial lawyer” with “a real knack for communicating complicated concepts to a judge or jury.” She was also named to the Los Angeles Business Journal’s “Angelenos to Know in Intellectual Property Law” list in 2012―one of 40 Los Angeles County lawyers to be selected for their outstanding achievements in the field.

A graduate of Stanford University, Trotter received her JD from the University of California at Berkeley (Boalt Hall), where she was Senior Articles Editor of the California Law Review, winner of the McBaine Moot Court Honors Program, and recipient of the Stephen Finney Jamison Award for outstanding scholarship and advocacy. She currently serves as Office Managing Partner of Kaye Scholer’s Los Angeles office.

Kaye Scholer’s Intellectual Property Department focuses on resolving disputes, both in and out of the courtroom. With an emphasis on patent litigation, we combine sophisticated scientific, technical and business knowledge with extensive courtroom experience. We also represent clients in high-stakes trademark, false advertising, and copyright litigation and advise companies on trade secrets protection, as well as hearings before the PTO. Finally, we advise on technology and outsourcing issues, as well as litigation and public policy issues related to cybersecurity and data privacy working in conjunction with Kaye Scholer’s transactional practices and our Global Cybersecurity & Privacy Group.

SHARE THIS WITH OTHERS:

RELATED SERVICES

Intellectual Property Trademark, False Adverti...mpetition

MEDIA CONTACT

Nicole Houston
Director, Marketing Communications
Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP
601 Mass. Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20001-3743
Nicole.Houston@apks.com
202.942.6418
202.942.5999 Fax

[Edited 4/10/17 7:33am]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong.The POA issue came up initially with regards to all P’s albums on Tidal on what would have been his 58th birthday.
.
As for POA, In NYS POA is no longer valid once the person dies, I can’t imagine it being different in other states.
.
As for her and others deleting the work they did for P on their linkedin, I wonder if it’s simply because they have been bombarded with emails asking questions. Just a theory. Peace.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #418 posted 04/10/17 9:05am

Mumio

avatar

DD55 said:

As for her and others deleting the work they did for P on their linkedin, I wonder if it’s simply because they have been bombarded with emails asking questions. Just a theory. Peace.


Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone is placing much value on the information being changed on these accounts, they can say whatever they want...or not. I'd also wondered if people were bugging them because we know some people don't know how to stay in their lanes lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #419 posted 04/10/17 9:07am

laurarichardso
n

DD55 said:

laurarichardson said:

---------

Article about Rhonda Trotter who also worked on the Masters negotiation. Could she have POA

http://www.apks.com/en/perspectives/news/2014/04/20140419_noted_copyright_lawyer_helps_pr_10

698

Kaye Scholer’s Rhonda Trotter Helps Prince Gain Back Rights to Recordings

April 19, 2014

For Immediate Release

Kaye Scholer’s Rhonda Trotter Helps Prince Gain Back Rights to Recordings

Los Angeles: Partner Rhonda Trotter, Co-Head of Kaye Scholer’s Trademark, Copyright & False Advertising Practice, helped put an end to rock icon Prince’s 20-year battle with Warner Brothers Records this week, when she secured the musician’s ownership of his master recordings. Under the terms of a new global partnership which she helped negotiate on Prince’s behalf, Warner Brothers granted back all of Prince’s rights in his recorded music catalogue, which includes best-selling albums such as Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999 and Purple Rain. In exchange, Prince allows Warner Brothers licensing rights to digitally remaster and reissue the albums he produced from 1978-1990.

Called a “landmark deal” by Billboard, this is one of the few times that an artist has obtained back copyright rights to his master recordings in recent memory, and was reached in the midst of much discussion about the extent to which recording artists will succeed in using the termination provisions of the Copyright Act of 1976. Those provisions allow recording artists to terminate their copyright grants to record companies after 35 years, however, record companies have hinted they may challenge those terminations on various grounds, including that the recordings were purportedly “works for hire” and therefore not eligible for termination under the Act.

The deal comes just a few months before the 30th anniversary of Prince’s Purple Rain album and motion picture. Purple Rain went platinum thirteen times, and in 2008, Entertainment Weekly crowned it the number one album issued in the last 25 years. In 2012, the Library of Congress added Purple Rain to its National Recording Registry list of sound recordings that "are culturally, historically, or aesthetically important, and/or inform or reflect life in the United States."

Representing music industry clients in copyright matters is nothing new for Trotter. In 2012, Trotter served as lead counsel on behalf of independent record distributor Central South Distribution, Inc., in breach of contract and copyright infringement action concerning recordings that pop singer Adam Lambert worked prior to appearing on American Idol in Burtscher, et al. v. Moore, et al. (C.D. Cal.).

In 2003, she served as co-trial counsel in TVT Records v. The Island Def Jam Music Group (S.D.N.Y.). a lawsuit filed by an independent record label against a media conglomerate involving claims of fraud, willful copyright infringement, tortious interference with contract and breach of contract. A federal jury returned a verdict subsequently listed by The National Law Journal as number 17 on its list of the “Top 100 Verdicts of 2003.”

Trotter is regularly recognized as a leading IP attorney, most recently in Best Lawyers in America for trademark law, as well as in Managing IP’s IP Star-s Top 250 Women In IP 2013 and by World Trademark Review 1000 2014 in which clients describe her as an “excellent trial lawyer” with “a real knack for communicating complicated concepts to a judge or jury.” She was also named to the Los Angeles Business Journal’s “Angelenos to Know in Intellectual Property Law” list in 2012―one of 40 Los Angeles County lawyers to be selected for their outstanding achievements in the field.

A graduate of Stanford University, Trotter received her JD from the University of California at Berkeley (Boalt Hall), where she was Senior Articles Editor of the California Law Review, winner of the McBaine Moot Court Honors Program, and recipient of the Stephen Finney Jamison Award for outstanding scholarship and advocacy. She currently serves as Office Managing Partner of Kaye Scholer’s Los Angeles office.

Kaye Scholer’s Intellectual Property Department focuses on resolving disputes, both in and out of the courtroom. With an emphasis on patent litigation, we combine sophisticated scientific, technical and business knowledge with extensive courtroom experience. We also represent clients in high-stakes trademark, false advertising, and copyright litigation and advise companies on trade secrets protection, as well as hearings before the PTO. Finally, we advise on technology and outsourcing issues, as well as litigation and public policy issues related to cybersecurity and data privacy working in conjunction with Kaye Scholer’s transactional practices and our Global Cybersecurity & Privacy Group.

SHARE THIS WITH OTHERS:

RELATED SERVICES

Intellectual Property Trademark, False Adverti...mpetition

MEDIA CONTACT

Nicole Houston
Director, Marketing Communications
Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP
601 Mass. Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20001-3743
Nicole.Houston@apks.com
202.942.6418
202.942.5999 Fax

[Edited 4/10/17 7:33am]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong.The POA issue came up initially with regards to all P’s albums on Tidal on what would have been his 58th birthday.
.
As for POA, In NYS POA is no longer valid once the person dies, I can’t imagine it being different in other states.
.
As for her and others deleting the work they did for P on their linkedin, I wonder if it’s simply because they have been bombarded with emails asking questions. Just a theory. Peace.

I believe the POA is coming up because Tidal is saying they have an Equity Term Agreement with him that they did not need is signature on it because someone had POA to sign for him.

This has a lot to do with the money Tidal paid him and whatever equity he was suppose to have in Tidal. I would expect that if there was a POA it is done now that he is gone but if it was valid when he was alive that would mean that Tidal and a contract with him that will continue until the contract period of performance ends.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 14 of 24 « First<101112131415161718>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > The Estate Discussion - Part 7 - Continued