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Reply #330 posted 01/20/17 3:40pm

morningsong

CONCLUSION For all the foregoing reasons, Omarr Baker and Tyka Nelson respectfully request the Court deny the Special Administrator’s for payment of attorneys’ fees from the Estate. In the alternative, Omarr Baker and Tyka Nelson respectfully request the Court compel the Special Administrator to adhere to the procedure outlined in the Court’s October 28, 2016 Order and submit all invoices and the required Fee Affidavits, and put the requested attorneys’ fees to a formal hearing.


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Reply #331 posted 01/20/17 4:08pm

ladygirl99

precioux said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am taking your comment seriously. lol Anything is possible in USA lol. The most unbelievable people find fame at times. Even reality show stars can be politicians hehe. But again Londell shouldn't also give her some type of false hope either.

AS long as he can line his pockets on the pretense off the coat tails of Prince...being she is his sister...HE WILL biggrin

From what I read in those court documents you are onto something biggrin

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Reply #332 posted 01/20/17 4:09pm

ladygirl99

laurarichardson said:

ladygirl99 said:

But did Elvis and Duke Ellington determined to keep their music off on radio and jukeboxes at the restaurents because they got paid little to none with royalities? Keep in mind those days, there were less entertainment choices than it is now. The estate is definately going to have some work cut out to get Prince work out there to get the millinials and Gen Z and beyond expose to it.

My point is ONCE AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, Prince was in a good position to use his financial stability opportinity to use stream services focus more on promotion himself to the new generation less on the money like other artists/groups who are around his age group and still alive. And also kept his videos off Youtube where he had unlimited exposure to the next generation who are the main key to keep his legacy alive. He wasn't a new artist that desperately need the money. Apparently he said himself he was the 'here and now' guy so with that attitude that is why the estate are having some challenges situations right now. I like Prince and all but I am not a Princebot who agreed with everything he done.

Even the estate handlers said they have some work to do of keeping Prince's legacy alive due to had his music available on Tidal. Even on the org, some people refused to sign up for Tidal and those were some of his diehard fans. Now that the estate is trying to get his music on multiple platforms and with the licensing deal lets hope his legacy last years to come.

Like I stated before his big money sales was only because of his death but time will tell will that continues or dwindles.

[Edited 1/19/17 18:23pm]

--Duke and the others had no choice but to have their music played on radio and jukeboxes because there are no other alternatives. We know have an alternative that is sending many artist to the poor house. Funny when Taylor Swift complained about streaming platform no one batted an eyeball. When she did not say anything he had not already stated. "What they offer in terms of payment is an insults. " Anyway if the rumors are true and Prince had a five year deal with title if you want to hear the music you need to sign up because Tidal is going to make sure that contract is honored.

Well whatever my opinion stands.

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Reply #333 posted 01/20/17 4:12pm

ladygirl99

Menes said:

ladygirl99 said:

I am taking your comment seriously. lol Anything is possible in USA lol. The most unbelievable people find fame at times. Even reality show stars can be politicians hehe. But again Londell shouldn't also give her some type of false hope either.

If she charts within 5 lite years of any billboard chart rankings, I will renounce sex forever, to include self gratification or any nocturnal emissions.

Hahaha.

She might have a hard time charting due to agism but if she can show she got some singing skills and perform at some local jazz clubs with minor success she might be onto something.

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Reply #334 posted 01/20/17 4:14pm

laytonian

laurarichardson said:


Lol Well thank god for you Mrs. Sharon has no chance of charting as a jazz singer.


How about if she does an incest song called "Brother"?

Remember how on the Today show how she mentioned never having been in PP before?
There was *something* there. His song was way too specific.
[Edited 1/20/17 16:19pm]
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Reply #335 posted 01/20/17 4:48pm

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nelcp777 said:



laurarichardson said:


ladygirl99 said:


But did Elvis and Duke Ellington determined to keep their music off on radio and jukeboxes at the restaurents because they got paid little to none with royalities? Keep in mind those days, there were less entertainment choices than it is now. The estate is definately going to have some work cut out to get Prince work out there to get the millinials and Gen Z and beyond expose to it.



My point is ONCE AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, Prince was in a good position to use his financial stability opportinity to use stream services focus more on promotion himself to the new generation less on the money like other artists/groups who are around his age group and still alive. And also kept his videos off Youtube where he had unlimited exposure to the next generation who are the main key to keep his legacy alive. He wasn't a new artist that desperately need the money. Apparently he said himself he was the 'here and now' guy so with that attitude that is why the estate are having some challenges situations right now. I like Prince and all but I am not a Princebot who agreed with everything he done.



Even the estate handlers said they have some work to do of keeping Prince's legacy alive due to had his music available on Tidal. Even on the org, some people refused to sign up for Tidal and those were some of his diehard fans. Now that the estate is trying to get his music on multiple platforms and with the licensing deal lets hope his legacy last years to come.



Like I stated before his big money sales was only because of his death but time will tell will that continues or dwindles.



[Edited 1/19/17 18:23pm]



--Duke and the others had no choice but to have their music played on radio and jukeboxes because there are no other alternatives. We know have an alternative that is sending many artist to the poor house. Funny when Taylor Swift complained about streaming platform no one batted an eyeball. When she did not say anything he had not already stated. "What they offer in terms of payment is an insults. " Anyway if the rumors are true and Prince had a five year deal with title if you want to hear the music you need to sign up because Tidal is going to make sure that contract is honored.

The 5 year deal could have contention language, i.e. death. We are not privy to the language in the contract.


--Tidal is counter suing. I do not think they would be counter suing if a death clause exsisted. Also I believe an injunction was filed to take the music off I'd Tidal due to copyright infringement. The music is still on Tidal. They take things off and put stuff back on but I can't see how Tidal can beat laws against copyright infringement. In no way should Londell have moved forward with streaming deals until he had a copy of the Tidal contract. Those deals could be in jeopardy and more lawsuits could be coming because of his greedy ass. Not to mention that Prince wanted the music on Tidal and if signed a five year deal he was serious about the music being on that platform until he was at retirement age.
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Reply #336 posted 01/20/17 5:06pm

Menes

Sharon is charting on NAPSTER and CD BABY! This song reminds me of the the Three's company tv song .. "Come and knock on our door, we've been waiting for you"... Enjoy.

'S' Wonderful - YouTube

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Reply #337 posted 01/20/17 5:22pm

iciala397

Menes said:

Sharon is charting on NAPSTER and CD BABY! This song reminds me of the the Three's company tv song .. "Come and knock on our door, we've been waiting for you"... Enjoy.

'S' Wonderful - YouTube

whofarted i can't believe she's moving forward with this, those recodings are completely ordinary. i will say she doesn't sound any worse than some of prince's protegees. but really.... just no. disbelief

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Reply #338 posted 01/20/17 6:35pm

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iciala397 said:



Menes said:


Sharon is charting on NAPSTER and CD BABY! This song reminds me of the the Three's company tv song .. "Come and knock on our door, we've been waiting for you"... Enjoy.





'S' Wonderful - YouTube



whofarted i can't believe she's moving forward with this, those recodings are completely ordinary. i will say she doesn't sound any worse than some of prince's protegees. but really.... just no. disbelief


--None of Prince's girls are 70. I hope Londell gets booted off of the estate so he can manage her full time and they can both go to the poor house.
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Reply #339 posted 01/20/17 6:57pm

Menes

According to this document, does the copyright infringement/law suit hinge on points #15-18? Please advise.

Pitchfork obtained the court documents

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Reply #340 posted 01/20/17 8:16pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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Menes said:

According to this document, does the copyright infringement/law suit hinge on points #15-18? Please advise.

Pitchfork obtained the court documents

Thanks for finding these documents Menes.

At the time of filing the Federal lawsuit Tidal had not provided any documents to Bremer showing they had the right to exploit P's music other than the Letter of Intent which was for 90 days.

We do know that P allowed Tidal to stream more than Hit N Run Phase 1 since August 2015.

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Reply #341 posted 01/20/17 8:59pm

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Menes said:

According to this document, does the copyright infringement/law suit hinge on points #15-18? Please advise.




Pitchfork obtained the court documents


What is 16, 17, and 18 I cannot get the App to open read those points.
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Reply #342 posted 01/20/17 9:02pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

According to this document, does the copyright infringement/law suit hinge on points #15-18? Please advise.

Pitchfork obtained the court documents

What is 16, 17, and 18 I cannot get the App to open read those points.

Hold on.

I will try to put it here.

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Reply #343 posted 01/20/17 9:08pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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I tried to copy and paste but it looked like a different language.

It basically says:

16. The newly recorded album was Hit N Run Phase 1

17. The exclusivity period for the license granted to Tidal in the Letter of Intent was 90 days from August 1, 2015.

18. Plaintiffs (NPG Music) is not aware of any agreements with Tidal by NPG other than the Letter of Intent.

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Reply #344 posted 01/20/17 10:24pm

Lovejunky

laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:
Lol Well thank god for you Mrs. Sharon has no chance of charting as a jazz singer.
How about if she does an incest song called "Brother"? Remember how on the Today show how she mentioned never having been in PP before? There was *something* there. His song was way too specific. [Edited 1/20/17 16:19pm]

that was SO DARKLY HYSTERICAL

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Reply #345 posted 01/21/17 8:37am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

According to this document, does the copyright infringement/law suit hinge on points #15-18? Please advise.

Pitchfork obtained the court documents

What is 16, 17, and 18 I cannot get the App to open read those points.

Try this link. If it doesn't open , let me know.

NPG RECORDS, INC. AND NPG...s. ROC ...

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Reply #346 posted 01/21/17 10:15am

rogifan

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Londell really needs to shut it. First, Prince probably wouldn't have been happy but I doubt he could have done anything about it. Second, if a Prince song had been sung at an Obama event I doubt Londell would be complaining about it. So it's not that PR was played at a political event but that it was played at a political event for someone who's politics Londell doesn't agree with. Big difference. I can't wait for this big mouth to no longer be involved with the Estate. rolleyes
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Reply #347 posted 01/21/17 11:57am

iciala397

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Menes said: What is 16, 17, and 18 I cannot get the App to open read those points.

Try this link. If it doesn't open , let me know.

NPG RECORDS, INC. AND NPG...s. ROC ...

nice find.

so tidal is in breach of copyright laws but refues to remove product and pay up.

yeah this gonna take awhile.....

popcorn

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Reply #348 posted 01/21/17 12:02pm

iciala397

rogifan said:

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Londell really needs to shut it. I can't wait for this big mouth to no longer be involved with the Estate. rolleyes

agreed. can't happen soon enough,imo.

he can make comments like this but not address the allegations tyka and omarr have made.

next he'll be hypin his new artist sharon nelson fart

bye londell

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Reply #349 posted 01/21/17 12:06pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

Militant said:

Tyka and Omarr are claiming Sharon Nelson is being personally represented by Londell and that she stated she would use Estate assets to further her own career as a jazz singer eek

Now that's what I call new information, as opposed to speculation clapping

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #350 posted 01/21/17 12:11pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Isn't she like 70 something? Why did she wait so long to be a jazz singer? Probably because Londell wants the $$$$ to help her along..

She will be charting soon on billboard. You watch. eek

She's gonna be the new tyka nelson, someone who can't really sing and doesn't have the right instincts musically confuse


Genius doesn't tend to run in families tho. Only JS Bach spread around.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #351 posted 01/21/17 12:54pm

PennyPurple

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Menes said:

She will be charting soon on billboard. You watch. eek

She's gonna be the new tyka nelson, someone who can't really sing and doesn't have the right instincts musically confuse


Genius doesn't tend to run in families tho. Only JS Bach spread around.

Tyka is the one who will forward his legacy and IMO cares most about it. She's gonna be the best bet to get that vault released.

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Reply #352 posted 01/21/17 1:39pm

oliviacamron

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Lovejunky said:



laytonian said:


laurarichardson said:
Lol Well thank god for you Mrs. Sharon has no chance of charting as a jazz singer.

How about if she does an incest song called "Brother"? Remember how on the Today show how she mentioned never having been in PP before? There was *something* there. His song was way too specific. [Edited 1/20/17 16:19pm]

that was SO DARKLY HYSTERICAL


I thought that incident was with the sister that died ??
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Reply #353 posted 01/21/17 1:42pm

1Sasha

And isn't Sharon gay?

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Reply #354 posted 01/21/17 2:32pm

laurarichardso
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fortuneandserendipity said:



Militant said:


Tyka and Omarr are claiming Sharon Nelson is being personally represented by Londell and that she stated she would use Estate assets to further her own career as a jazz singer eek



Now that's what I call new information, as opposed to speculation clapping


--Go read the court docs. Omarr and Tyka have made themselves clear to the court about the rip offs that have been going on by Breamer,lawyers and Londell. No one is speculating anything.
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Reply #355 posted 01/21/17 2:34pm

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iciala397 said:



Menes said:




laurarichardson said:


Menes said: What is 16, 17, and 18 I cannot get the App to open read those points.

Try this link. If it doesn't open , let me know.




NPG RECORDS, INC. AND NPG...s. ROC ...



nice find.


so tidal is in breach of copyright laws but refues to remove product and pay up.


yeah this gonna take awhile.....


popcorn


Tidal has filed a counter suit and say they are not violating copyright laws. Why is the material still up in Tidal's website.
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Reply #356 posted 01/21/17 2:41pm

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rogifan said:

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Londell really needs to shut it. First, Prince probably wouldn't have been happy but I doubt he could have done anything about it. Second, if a Prince song had been sung at an Obama event I doubt Londell would be complaining about it. So it's not that PR was played at a political event but that it was played at a political event for someone who's politics Londell doesn't agree with. Big difference. I can't wait for this big mouth to no longer be involved with the Estate. rolleyes

--As a entertainment lawyer he should know that you cannot stop a song from being covered. You can stop it from being recorded and sold but that is about it. He also been asked by Tkya and Omarr to stop the damm tweeting but he keeps doing it anyway. Dude is a first rate asshole.
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Reply #357 posted 01/21/17 3:31pm

laytonian

oliviacamron said:

Lovejunky said:



laytonian said:


laurarichardson said:
Lol Well thank god for you Mrs. Sharon has no chance of charting as a jazz singer.

How about if she does an incest song called "Brother"? Remember how on the Today show how she mentioned never having been in PP before? There was *something* there. His song was way too specific. [Edited 1/20/17 16:19pm]

that was SO DARKLY HYSTERICAL


I thought that incident was with the sister that died ??


Nope. Check the ages.
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Reply #358 posted 01/21/17 3:54pm

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oliviacamron said:

Lovejunky said:



laytonian said:


laurarichardson said:
Lol Well thank god for you Mrs. Sharon has no chance of charting as a jazz singer.

How about if she does an incest song called "Brother"? Remember how on the Today show how she mentioned never having been in PP before? There was *something* there. His song was way too specific. [Edited 1/20/17 16:19pm]

that was SO DARKLY HYSTERICAL


I thought that incident was with the sister that died ??

--Sharon was the sister he got into with when he went to New York to get a record deal. She put him out which she seemed to imply in a interview was due to nit having enough money to subidize him. We really do not know if sister was about her or if he just wrote it to piss of people and be controversial in fact I am not even sure how people got the idea is was about her.
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Reply #359 posted 01/21/17 4:42pm

206Michelle

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

morningsong said: I've read that he sometimes complained about his property taxes being too high. I think everyone tries to minimize their tax bill as much as possible.



You would think so. But he kept refusing to do a will despite knowing the tax burden, and for someone so purposeful in his dealings, I'm convinced beyond all doubt he had a reason, what it was I haven't a clue but he had one.

yeahthat

morningsong, I agree with you that he had a reason for not having a will. Having been the executor of his father's estate, he was familiar with a will in the State of Minnesota. Prince seemed to dislike attorneys and my take is that he saw attorneys as a necessary evil. There is an article about this: http://www.startribune.co...84359271/.

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