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Thread started 12/05/16 10:51am

morningsong

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The Estate - Part 5

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx






Part 1: http://prince.org/msg/7/426092
Part 2: http://prince.org/msg/7/429559
Part 3: http://prince.org/msg/7/430380
Part 4: http://prince.org/msg/7/433233?jump=971&pg=33#msg_9795795



This thread is wayyyy too long, continue the discussion here http://prince.org/msg/7/437482 ---- luv4u

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For a chart breaking down what has happened up until now see page 19 nelcp777's reply #560.


[Edited 1/10/17 10:38am]

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Reply #1 posted 12/05/16 11:43am

nelcp777

morningsong said:

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx



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ew Zealand, huh? In 1976 no less. Did he even know NZ existed let alone visit there?






Part 1: http://prince.org/msg/7/426092
Part 2: http://prince.org/msg/7/429559
Part 3: http://prince.org/msg/7/430380
Part 4: http://prince.org/msg/7/433233?jump=971&pg=33#msg_9795795




[Edited 12/5/16 10:53am]

Funny, but they have a clearance to genetic testing. Prince couldn't afford McDonalds in high school, but could travel to NZ. I am trying to be sarcastic and funny with that. No offense meant to anyone. Wonder when the genetic results will be released.

[Edited 12/5/16 11:44am]

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Reply #2 posted 12/05/16 11:57am

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nelcp777 said:

morningsong said:

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx



N
ew Zealand, huh? In 1976 no less. Did he even know NZ existed let alone visit there?






Part 1: http://prince.org/msg/7/426092
Part 2: http://prince.org/msg/7/429559
Part 3: http://prince.org/msg/7/430380
Part 4: http://prince.org/msg/7/433233?jump=971&pg=33#msg_9795795




[Edited 12/5/16 10:53am]

Funny, but they have a clearance to genetic testing. Prince couldn't afford McDonalds in high school, but could travel to NZ. I am trying to be sarcastic and funny with that. No offense meant to anyone. Wonder when the genetic results will be released.

[Edited 12/5/16 11:44am]

At least they are making them pay for the test. Finally.

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Reply #3 posted 12/05/16 12:03pm

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laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

Funny, but they have a clearance to genetic testing. Prince couldn't afford McDonalds in high school, but could travel to NZ. I am trying to be sarcastic and funny with that. No offense meant to anyone. Wonder when the genetic results will be released.

[Edited 12/5/16 11:44am]

At least they are making them pay for the test. Finally.

I agree with you.

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Reply #4 posted 12/05/16 12:06pm

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The only thing I found interesting about the divorce filings is that it says that Manuela is 38 not 40 like she claims. hmm I thought when you lied about your age you are suppose to make yourself younger not older.

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Reply #5 posted 12/05/16 12:16pm

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computerblue83 said:

The only thing I found interesting about the divorce filings is that it says that Manuela is 38 not 40 like she claims. hmm I thought when you lied about your age you are suppose to make yourself younger not older.




I kind of questioned that too but I got ignored. Not sure who supposed to inform who that there's some incorrect information floating about.

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Reply #6 posted 12/05/16 12:26pm

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computerblue83 said:

The only thing I found interesting about the divorce filings is that it says that Manuela is 38 not 40 like she claims. hmm I thought when you lied about your age you are suppose to make yourself younger not older.

Where is the filings documents at?

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Reply #7 posted 12/05/16 12:47pm

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nelcp777 said:

computerblue83 said:

The only thing I found interesting about the divorce filings is that it says that Manuela is 38 not 40 like she claims. hmm I thought when you lied about your age you are suppose to make yourself younger not older.

Where is the filings documents at?




The online divorce filings has it in the heading under her DOB.

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Reply #8 posted 12/05/16 2:39pm

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New Zealand??

I wish we could see the mother's affidavit about how she met Prince downunder while he was a minor.

lol eek

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Reply #9 posted 12/05/16 2:49pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

New Zealand??

I wish we could see the mother's affidavit about how she met Prince downunder while he was a minor.

lol eek



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Reply #10 posted 12/05/16 4:43pm

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....At these ridiculous court filings.....I just have to...... lol & rolleyes & wacky & ohgoon & falloff

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Reply #11 posted 12/05/16 5:17pm

Pgeishirt

Is there a link to The Estate part 4 please.
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Reply #12 posted 12/05/16 5:41pm

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Pgeishirt said:

Is there a link to The Estate part 4 please.

The link is in the #1 post.

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Reply #13 posted 12/05/16 7:02pm

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Pgeishirt said:


Is there a link to The Estate part 4 please.

The link is in the #1 post.




I think there is something wrong with the link to part 4...
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Reply #14 posted 12/05/16 7:04pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Pgeishirt said:

Is there a link to The Estate part 4 please.

The link is in the #1 post.

like so many links shared on the org, it takes me to a 1999 post about computerworld magazine.

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Reply #15 posted 12/05/16 7:06pm

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Purpleone4Eva said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The link is in the #1 post.

like so many links shared on the org, it takes me to a 1999 post about computerworld magazine.



You've got to use little tricks around here. Open a new tab, then copy and past the link.

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Reply #16 posted 12/05/16 7:15pm

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http://www.startribune.com/yet-another-potential-heir-emerges-in-prince-estate-case/404820636/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is reporting on the New Zealand man claiming to be P's son.

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Reply #17 posted 12/05/16 7:31pm

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morningsong said:

Purpleone4Eva said:

like so many links shared on the org, it takes me to a 1999 post about computerworld magazine.



You've got to use little tricks around here. Open a new tab, then copy and past the link.

Thanks!

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Purpleone4Eva said:

morningsong said:



You've got to use little tricks around here. Open a new tab, then copy and past the link.

Thanks!



No problem.

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Reply #19 posted 12/06/16 8:19am

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Interesting documents and arguements released today in the Tidal incident. According to the SA's arguement, Tidal has not provided additional documents to substantiate their claim to the Estate. Also, the Estate has filed a civil order for copyright infringement on Tidal's streaming of Prince's past catalogue. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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Reply #20 posted 12/06/16 9:50am

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Dixon has taken his case to the Court of Appeals. Comments?

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Reply #21 posted 12/06/16 10:47am

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nelcp777 said:

Interesting documents and arguements released today in the Tidal incident. According to the SA's arguement, Tidal has not provided additional documents to substantiate their claim to the Estate. Also, the Estate has filed a civil order for copyright infringement on Tidal's streaming of Prince's past catalogue. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Bremer has requested numerous times for Tidal to provide some sort of documentation and they have failed to do so.

Bremer states they cannot find any payment from Tidal. So it appears Tidal has been streaming P's music for awhile without payment.

Bremer is also stating even if NPG Music gave Tidal exclusive streaming rights NPG did not authorize the release of his catalogue on June 7, 2016.

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Reply #22 posted 12/06/16 11:02am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

Interesting documents and arguements released today in the Tidal incident. According to the SA's arguement, Tidal has not provided additional documents to substantiate their claim to the Estate. Also, the Estate has filed a civil order for copyright infringement on Tidal's streaming of Prince's past catalogue. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Bremer has requested numerous times for Tidal to provide some sort of documentation and they have failed to do so.

Bremer states they cannot find any payment from Tidal. So it appears Tidal has been streaming P's music for awhile without payment.

Bremer is also stating even if NPG Music gave Tidal exclusive streaming rights NPG did not authorize the release of his catalogue on June 7, 2016.

No way in hell Prince gave Tidal files without money. I still say some of this deal was done on a handshake with cash or Prince put that money in some account no one can find.

The hearing is on Friday so we should know something soon.

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Reply #23 posted 12/06/16 11:31am

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Bremer has requested numerous times for Tidal to provide some sort of documentation and they have failed to do so.

Bremer states they cannot find any payment from Tidal. So it appears Tidal has been streaming P's music for awhile without payment.

Bremer is also stating even if NPG Music gave Tidal exclusive streaming rights NPG did not authorize the release of his catalogue on June 7, 2016.

No way in hell Prince gave Tidal files without money. I still say some of this deal was done on a handshake with cash or Prince put that money in some account no one can find.

The hearing is on Friday so we should know something soon.

Then Tidal should have documents showing payment of cash to P.

What hearing is Friday? In the Federal Court case?

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Reply #24 posted 12/06/16 11:34am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

Interesting documents and arguements released today in the Tidal incident. According to the SA's arguement, Tidal has not provided additional documents to substantiate their claim to the Estate. Also, the Estate has filed a civil order for copyright infringement on Tidal's streaming of Prince's past catalogue. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Bremer has requested numerous times for Tidal to provide some sort of documentation and they have failed to do so.

Bremer states they cannot find any payment from Tidal. So it appears Tidal has been streaming P's music for awhile without payment.

Bremer is also stating even if NPG Music gave Tidal exclusive streaming rights NPG did not authorize the release of his catalogue on June 7, 2016.

$750k is supposedly due to Prince from the agreement and Tidal has not provided documentation of the payment.

I wonder how much was generated from streaming Prince's back catalogue on June 7th? If the Estate wins thier argument, I am sure not only will they ask for the money made of off the streaming, but for possible punitive damages. I would imagine that could be pretty high?

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Reply #25 posted 12/06/16 11:36am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

No way in hell Prince gave Tidal files without money. I still say some of this deal was done on a handshake with cash or Prince put that money in some account no one can find.

The hearing is on Friday so we should know something soon.

Then Tidal should have documents showing payment of cash to P.

What hearing is Friday? In the Federal Court case?

Could Tidal argue that equity share was the form of payment? They would still have to provide some agreement and documents to substantiate their arguement/stance.

I would imagine that Bremer has reviewed Prince's accounts and have not discovered any deposits associated with Tidal or it's affiliates, that is why they are asking for documentation.

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Reply #26 posted 12/06/16 12:50pm

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Let's get ready to rumble!! lol

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cloveringold85 said:

Let's get ready to rumble!! lol

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http://www.tmz.com/2016/1...l-lawsuit/

lol That title is so wrong.


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Reply #28 posted 12/06/16 1:26pm

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nelcp777 said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




nelcp777 said:


Interesting documents and arguements released today in the Tidal incident. According to the SA's arguement, Tidal has not provided additional documents to substantiate their claim to the Estate. Also, the Estate has filed a civil order for copyright infringement on Tidal's streaming of Prince's past catalogue. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.



Bremer has requested numerous times for Tidal to provide some sort of documentation and they have failed to do so.


Bremer states they cannot find any payment from Tidal. So it appears Tidal has been streaming P's music for awhile without payment.


Bremer is also stating even if NPG Music gave Tidal exclusive streaming rights NPG did not authorize the release of his catalogue on June 7, 2016.



$750k is supposedly due to Prince from the agreement and Tidal has not provided documentation of the payment.

I wonder how much was generated from streaming Prince's back catalogue on June 7th? If the Estate wins thier argument, I am sure not only will they ask for the money made of off the streaming, but for possible punitive damages. I would imagine that could be pretty high?



ISLIJAG.....yes, they have. I downloaded those docs and skimmed the majority but this statement stands out (and it is noted numerous times throughout). It reads as follows:
32. Despite the repeated requests from the Special Administrator, and Roc Nation’s multiple filings in the Carver County probate matter, Tidal and Roc Nation have not provided any documentation or evidence of any oral and implied agreement granting Roc Nation any rights beyond those rights granted in the Letter of Intent

And while there are various supporting attached docs, from both parties, no copy of a contract is included. If they are indeed in possession of one, why not include it?

I also found this tidbit (correspondence from Roc Nation to the MN courts, if I remember correctly) interesting:
Third, the Artist and NPG conveyed to Roc Nation the right for Roc Nation artists to re-mix, in their sole discretion, the “Hit‘n RUN Phase One“ album and for Roc Nation to release such re-mix.


I am suspect about this as I interpret it to mean that Roc Nation can remix Prince's Hit n Run 1 album and RELEASE IT!? Would Prince have given Roc Nation that amount of latitude with regard to his art? I don't know.....sounds kinda' shady to me.

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Reply #29 posted 12/06/16 1:34pm

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The only thing I found interesting about the divorce filings is that it says that Manuela is 38 not 40 like she claims. hmm I thought when you lied about your age you are suppose to make yourself younger not older.

actually, she did make herself younger. she lied about her age on the divorce papers- she is actually 40 this yr. like she said in her 40 things about me. wink

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