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Reply #570 posted 10/25/16 10:55am

oliviacamron

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fortuneandserendipity said:



laurarichardson said:


fortuneandserendipity said:

See you conspiracy nuts later wave


I'm off on holiday somewhere to commit suicide. That is unless somebody kills me first smile



-- Goodbye ✌🏿️

Still here smile


nuts lol who's the nut again?
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #571 posted 10/25/16 11:01am

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laurarichardson said:



Mkilpatrick74 said:


fortuneandserendipity said:


She didn't know Prince though (probably one of the most private celebrities ever to have lived) and neither did most, if not all, of his closest company. That's the point, there's just too much conjecture here to know anything for certain.


She was doing inductive reasoning, which is supposition.



Withdrawal from opiates by all accounts is horrible, and people going through it don't see light at the end of the tunnel. There's no saying how bad he felt in those final hours, or even weeks, and there is no way the medical examiner can know enough to conclusively rule suicide out.



I'm not trying to project here , but I can speak from experience that withdrawals will make a strong willed Christian whos dead aet against suicide want to take her life and make the pain stop. Leave that person alone and it's a disaster in the making. You will do anything to make the pain and the withdrawals stop.

Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?


Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end.
He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of.
Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.
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Reply #572 posted 10/25/16 11:47am

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?

Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end. He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of. Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.

Someone supplied him with the fentanyl laced pills, my guess is they didn't know it was laced with fentanyl.

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Reply #573 posted 10/25/16 11:48am

Mkilpatrick74

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Mkilpatrick74 said:


Can some one in law enforcement on here help me understand what they mean by "hold back information" in this request to keep docs sealed? Googling but can't seem to find an answer.



First of all I do want to say that I am not a LE officer. In simple terms "hold back" information is intelligence that is not known by the public and if it were released at this time it could tip off whomever they are gathering information on. It would also give any suspect information on what LE knows and what they don't, and possibly how far up the food chain they have discovered. This in turn might cause potential witnesses to be tampered with and could cause suspects to flee.




Awesome explanation! Thank u for taking the time to answer my question. Makes perfect sense. smile
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Reply #574 posted 10/25/16 11:56am

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CooperC62057 said:

Let them keep it sealed - sounds like they are on to something. Looking at all of the confusing statements made by family & associates takes on a new meaning for me now. There are things they know that they are not going to chance revealing. From "there's more to the story" to Tyka's conflicting statements - perhaps they are deliberately putting out statements to create confusion and speculation so that the general public and "potential further witnesses" are thrown off as well! I say keep it up if that will aid in bringing justice!

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I agree! If we have to wait several more months or another year, then so be it. They said they have several more people to question, so it's gonna take a while!

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Reply #575 posted 10/25/16 12:25pm

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oliviacamron said:

fortuneandserendipity said:



laurarichardson said:


fortuneandserendipity said:

See you conspiracy nuts later wave


I'm off on holiday somewhere to commit suicide. That is unless somebody kills me first smile



-- Goodbye ✌🏿️

Still here smile


nuts lol who's the nut again?

// We know who the nut is. Many of these naysayers are going to disappear as the truth is starting to come out. The police are not looking at this as a suicide but as a homicide investigation. That is the facts of stituation.
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Reply #576 posted 10/25/16 12:26pm

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PennyPurple said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


laurarichardson said:


Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?



Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end. He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of. Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.

Someone supplied him with the fentanyl laced pills, my guess is they didn't know it was laced with fentanyl.


-- Well we will find out and I think it will be soon.
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Reply #577 posted 10/25/16 12:44pm

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Someone supplied him with the fentanyl laced pills, my guess is they didn't know it was laced with fentanyl.

-- Well we will find out and I think it will be soon.

I sure hope it's very soon.

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Reply #578 posted 10/25/16 12:45pm

cloveringold85

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laurarichardson said:

oliviacamron said:
nuts lol who's the nut again?
// We know who the nut is. Many of these naysayers are going to disappear as the truth is starting to come out. The police are not looking at this as a suicide but as a homicide investigation. That is the facts of stituation.

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Reply #579 posted 10/25/16 1:33pm

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This is off-topic. Just wanted to share yet, some more very sad news in the music world.

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I just learned today that British Singer of the 80s pop group, "Dead or Alive", Pete Burns has passed away at the age of 57 (same as Prince). He died of a massive heart attack.

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Some of you remember him, I'm sure. They were big in the 80s & 90s.

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Truly another sad day in the music world. I will miss him, dearly. sad

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Reply #580 posted 10/25/16 1:47pm

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Some people believe that Prince "knew" he was dying (terminal illness). If that is the case, then why would he have a new Passport made in February....2-months before he died?

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I believe his death was sudden and unexpected and very suspicious.

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Reply #581 posted 10/25/16 2:08pm

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cloveringold85 said:

Some people believe that Prince "knew" he was dying (terminal illness). If that is the case, then why would he have a new Passport made in February....2-months before he died?


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I believe his death was sudden and unexpected and very suspicious.


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-- Because he needed a passport to go Australia! Also you can be ill or terminal and not stop living your life and conducting your business. I had cousin who had terminal cancer he was given a year to live and he went on with handling his affairs up until a few weeks before he died. Don't discount the long term effects of pain meds. Organ dis function can be a slow slide.
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Reply #582 posted 10/25/16 2:11pm

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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

Some people believe that Prince "knew" he was dying (terminal illness). If that is the case, then why would he have a new Passport made in February....2-months before he died?

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I believe his death was sudden and unexpected and very suspicious.

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-- Because he needed a passport to go Australia! Also you can be ill or terminal and not stop living your life and conducting your business. I had cousin who had terminal cancer he was given a year to live and he went on with handling his affairs up until a few weeks before he died. Don't discount the long term effects of pain meds. Organ dis function can be a slow slide.

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Okay, fair enough. He sure looked fine though, being 57 and all.....not that's it old......and I'm not too far from it, myself LOL biggrin

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Reply #583 posted 10/25/16 2:22pm

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cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said: -- Because he needed a passport to go Australia! Also you can be ill or terminal and not stop living your life and conducting your business. I had cousin who had terminal cancer he was given a year to live and he went on with handling his affairs up until a few weeks before he died. Don't discount the long term effects of pain meds. Organ dis function can be a slow slide.

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Okay, fair enough. He sure looked fine though, being 57 and all.....not that's it old......and I'm not too far from it, myself LOL biggrin

Also, I believe it later came to light that the 'passport photo' was in fact a joke, tweeted or at least disseminated by Prince himself (I think)!

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Reply #584 posted 10/25/16 2:25pm

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Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay, fair enough. He sure looked fine though, being 57 and all.....not that's it old......and I'm not too far from it, myself LOL biggrin

Also, I believe it later came to light that the 'passport photo' was in fact a joke, tweeted or at least disseminated by Prince himself (I think)!

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Oh, it was?!! Geeze, okay.......I guess you can skip this topic then, LOL lol

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Reply #585 posted 10/25/16 2:27pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:



Mkilpatrick74 said:


fortuneandserendipity said:


She didn't know Prince though (probably one of the most private celebrities ever to have lived) and neither did most, if not all, of his closest company. That's the point, there's just too much conjecture here to know anything for certain.


She was doing inductive reasoning, which is supposition.



Withdrawal from opiates by all accounts is horrible, and people going through it don't see light at the end of the tunnel. There's no saying how bad he felt in those final hours, or even weeks, and there is no way the medical examiner can know enough to conclusively rule suicide out.



I'm not trying to project here , but I can speak from experience that withdrawals will make a strong willed Christian whos dead aet against suicide want to take her life and make the pain stop. Leave that person alone and it's a disaster in the making. You will do anything to make the pain and the withdrawals stop.

Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?


Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end.
He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of.
Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.


Well, he was in "bad shape": http://insider.foxnews.co...y-hospital ...I believe because the narcan shot precipitated withdrawal symptoms.

Where is the source that says otherwise?
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Reply #586 posted 10/25/16 2:43pm

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Prince did a party at his house on the 18th and was spotted out and about Electric fetus etc and looked good according to those that saw him.
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Reply #587 posted 10/25/16 2:52pm

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cloveringold85 said:

Some people believe that Prince "knew" he was dying (terminal illness). If that is the case, then why would he have a new Passport made in February....2-months before he died?


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I believe his death was sudden and unexpected and very suspicious.


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Agree...
I too think his death was sudden and very suspicious.
He looked good in that pic too passport or not
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Reply #588 posted 10/25/16 3:56pm

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NotACleverName said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:
Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end. He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of. Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.
Well, he was in "bad shape": http://insider.foxnews.co...y-hospital ...I believe because the narcan shot precipitated withdrawal symptoms. Where is the source that says otherwise?

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It was stated that Prince was given 2 Narcan shots, but he did not have any side-effects, which I find odd. This makes me think that he was not given Narcan, after all. I looked-up the side-effects of Narcan, and it's horrible!! eek

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Reply #589 posted 10/25/16 4:08pm

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laurarichardson said:

oliviacamron said:
nuts lol who's the nut again?
// We know who the nut is. Many of these naysayers are going to disappear as the truth is starting to come out. The police are not looking at this as a suicide but as a homicide investigation. That is the facts of stituation.

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.


Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.


Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs. smile

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #590 posted 10/25/16 4:40pm

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cloveringold85 said:[quote]



CooperC62057 said:


Let them keep it sealed - sounds like they are on to something. Looking at all of the confusing statements made by family & associates takes on a new meaning for me now. There are things they know that they are not going to chance revealing. From "there's more to the story" to Tyka's conflicting statements - perhaps they are deliberately putting out statements to create confusion and speculation so that the general public and "potential further witnesses" are thrown off as well! I say keep it up if that will aid in bringing justice!

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I agree! If we have to wait several more months or another year, then so be it. They said they have several more people to question, so it's gonna take a while!


[/quote I really hope the detectives are not just buying time because they don't know anything and or they just want us to forget about this
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #591 posted 10/25/16 4:44pm

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Olivia: I don't think they are "buying time". They have more people to question. I'm actually releived that they aren't rushing through this case just to be done with it. I hope they make sure no stone goes unturned.

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oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

CooperC62057 said:

Let them keep it sealed - sounds like they are on to something. Looking at all of the confusing statements made by family & associates takes on a new meaning for me now. There are things they know that they are not going to chance revealing. From "there's more to the story" to Tyka's conflicting statements - perhaps they are deliberately putting out statements to create confusion and speculation so that the general public and "potential further witnesses" are thrown off as well! I say keep it up if that will aid in bringing justice!

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I agree! If we have to wait several more months or another year, then so be it. They said they have several more people to question, so it's gonna take a while!

[/quote I really hope the detectives are not just buying time because they don't know anything and or they just want us to forget about this

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Reply #592 posted 10/25/16 4:48pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:



laurarichardson said:


oliviacamron said:
nuts lol who's the nut again?

// We know who the nut is. Many of these naysayers are going to disappear as the truth is starting to come out. The police are not looking at this as a suicide but as a homicide investigation. That is the facts of stituation.

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.



Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.



Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs. smile


Fantasy? I want my life back but I have no peace. When someone you love died,and you believe someone hurt them but the truth ain't out, it's terrible! I want to be wrong. I say Warners/ Illuminati killed Prince, I hope I find out different so I can let go.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #593 posted 10/25/16 4:53pm

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oliviacamron said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.


Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.


Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs. smile

Fantasy? I want my life back but I have no peace. When someone you love died,and you believe someone hurt them but the truth ain't out, it's terrible! I want to be wrong. I say Warners/ Illuminati killed Prince, I hope I find out different so I can let go.

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Olivia: I concur! nod

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This Fortune person sounds a lot like Herb4. Maybe they are related or one and the same person, LOL eek

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Reply #594 posted 10/25/16 4:53pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:


Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.

People should take note of this.

Also, no one should think that because "future plans" were made that it means anything at all. Everyone, even terminally ill people, make future plans because death dates aren't set in stone, all anyone gets is a date range. I don't know why people think his future plans meant anything more than exactly that.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #595 posted 10/25/16 4:54pm

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cloveringold85 said:

Some people believe that Prince "knew" he was dying (terminal illness). If that is the case, then why would he have a new Passport made in February....2-months before he died?


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I believe his death was sudden and unexpected and very suspicious.


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If this photo is not photo shop with skin smoother that he looks good for 57
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #596 posted 10/25/16 4:56pm

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oliviacamron said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.


Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.


Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs. smile

Fantasy? I want my life back but I have no peace. When someone you love died,and you believe someone hurt them but the truth ain't out, it's terrible! I want to be wrong. I say Warners/ Illuminati killed Prince, I hope I find out different so I can let go.

I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame.


The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #597 posted 10/25/16 4:58pm

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Mumio said:

fortuneandserendipity said:


Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.

People should take note of this.

Also, no one should think that because "future plans" were made that it means anything at all. Everyone, even terminally ill people, make future plans because death dates aren't set in stone, all anyone gets is a date range. I don't know why people think his future plans meant anything more than exactly that.

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I think it's fair to say that we all are just speculating here. None of us knew what he was thinking or feeling before he died, or what his intentions were, i.e., making plans, knowing he didn't have long to live, or making plans not knowing he would die suddenly and under suspicious circumstances.

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Reply #598 posted 10/25/16 4:59pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

oliviacamron said: // We know who the nut is. Many of these naysayers are going to disappear as the truth is starting to come out. The police are not looking at this as a suicide but as a homicide investigation. That is the facts of stituation.

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.


Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.


Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs. smile

-----But for your information, I consider it to be both.

No one cares what you think. This is a homicide investigation. You are the one that thinks the ME does not know what she is doing because you know more than she does. rolleyes

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Reply #599 posted 10/25/16 5:00pm

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oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

Some people believe that Prince "knew" he was dying (terminal illness). If that is the case, then why would he have a new Passport made in February....2-months before he died?

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I believe his death was sudden and unexpected and very suspicious.

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If this photo is not photo shop with skin smoother that he looks good for 57

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LOL Olivia!! It could be photoshopped, but he was too fine and didn't need none of that, LOL lol

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