rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

-- Well they should not be making money. We are not going to get that vault of music if the estate can't monterize itself. Do some of you want official stuff? Do you want to see a museum it takes money.

This. Keeping the estate afloat takes money. Prince even said one of the reasons for touring was because he had payrolls to meet and bills to pay. Where's that money going to come from now? Another reason I say they need to work on getting non-WB stuff on iTunes. Millions of people buy music off iTunes and right now 20+ years of Prince music isn't available there. If it was believe me people would be buying it. If stuff like TGE can go up on Tidal they certainly can get it on iTunes.

They are going to get his music on all platforms as soon as the Estate is settled are settled but they also must put a stop to the massive bootlegging. You cannot drive fans to I-Tunes or streaming sites if they have access to boots.

This is business class 101. I weep for the future of this country with the kind of thinking that I read on this board. As if telling someone to suck it will change something.

PurpleMusic07 said:

They clearly arent serious about getting this info. If they were there's a much better place to "ask" than twitter...

Probably checking an 'obvious' box for legal reasons.

Bootlegger: "I was providing a service to fans! Prince was famously at war with the record companies. After he died even his fans didn't know which label owned the rights to his music! Who would you contact to discuss a joint venture?!"

Judge: "Mr. McMillian - How was anybody to reasonably know bootlegging was not allowed after his death? There was a lot of uncertainty about the status of his catalog. Did you notify the public, did you ASK people to report the bootlegging?"

LM: "Yes your honor, you can see here on Twitter"

Judge: "GUILTY! - 70 years hard labor"

[Edited 8/24/16 4:59am]

PurpleMaze77 said:

who cares about bootlegs in 2016? Apart for the die hard fans who ae going to buy cds and bootlegs anyway, if the estate wants to make money Princes music and live shows need to be finally widely available on itunes,ytube and all the streaming platforms which is the only way you are going to reach the average public of under 40. None of my friends own a cd or dvd player anymore. We all went digital a couple of years ago. my humble opinion

When I say boots I am including live footage and recordings. I am sure we will get everything in a digital format once the estate is settled. I believe that is the reason they are going after bootlegers to clear the way for official stuff.

laurarichardson said:

avajane said:

With all due respect, what's the point? Are they worried about people making money off of him, guess what people are already doing that.

-- Well they should not be making money. We are not going to get that vault of music if the estate can't monterize itself. Do some of you want official stuff? Do you want to see a museum it takes money.

Not sure about what people are thinking, we'll get nothing if there's no way for money to be made to keep up PP nor anything else we'd like to see. People are gonna have to support plans made by the estate if they want anything to come of it.

Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

avajane said: -- Well they should not be making money. We are not going to get that vault of music if the estate can't monterize itself. Do some of you want official stuff? Do you want to see a museum it takes money.

Not sure about what people are thinking, we'll get nothing if there's no way for money to be made to keep up PP nor anything else we'd like to see. People are gonna have to support plans made by the estate if they want anything to come of it.

Then that wll have to involve Itunes, live videos, youube like the poster above mentioned. Not the way things have been in the last 20 yers.

Londell is not playing. Great guy.

Do y'all think this could also be an opportunity for fans to get ahead of this process and express to the Estate what we would like to purchase and in what manner? We know that music will be for sale, but is it a possiblity that we--hardcore fans--could influence what is sold and how it's sold? For instance, I would like to see a website which would allow us to purchase/download albums for $10 - $20 and have the option to purchase/download individual singles from that album for $.99. And, I think this could work for studio and live material as well as video. So, we could be able to purchase/download an entire video of concert for $10 - $20, and we could be able to purchase/download a video of a single song/performace from a concert for $.99. (I ask for this becuse I'm more interested in live material than songs from the vault. Also, I often mix and match songs/performances from various live shows. So rather than having video of one show from the Diamonds and Pearls Tour, I have mixed together my favorite moments from various shows of that tour to create my own video compilation of the Diamonds and Pearls Tour.) I should add that I'd hope we would be able to do the same for the promotional videos as well. So, we would be able to download each promotional video for $.99 or even downland them in some two hour grouping of promotional video for $10 - $20.

*

My ultimate point is maybe the moderators of Prince.org and Housequake can complile some type of list of what fans would like to be able to purchase and how we would like to purchase it and then submit it to whomever is handling how his work is to be sold. Doing this will inform those folks who probably have no clue what hardcore fans desire, making it simple for them to understand and meet the market demand. (These folks only understand dollars so let's show them for what we are willing to pay and how we are willing to pay for it.) This may be a stupid idea, but rather than just us (me included) complaining about what those idiots handling Prince's music dosen't know about the music and what fans want, this could be the one and only opportunity for us to help them to provide to us what we want, which is as much access to the music (audio and video) as possible.

Iamtheorg said:

1725topp said:

laurarichardson said:

Iamtheorg said:

Then that wll have to involve Itunes, live videos, youube like the poster above mentioned. Not the way things have been in the last 20 yers.

-- Prince did not need to be on all platforms because he was touring. The estate does not have that platform anymore so that will have to put it out on all formats but they have to stop the boots.

Uh, that was my point. Stopping the boots is a moot objective at this juncture. Hell, it has been for a very long time.

laurarichardson said:

PurpleMaze77 said:

I think boots are just not that important. Usually they only interested die hard fans, not the general public who is not willing to dig for them but wants to have easy access to the music. I also think making videos of all shows digitally available, as doing live shows was one of his strong points, will make money. The clue will be in the easy and ecfortless digestability rather than the hunting for rare bootlegs and treasures which is always and only going to interest to loyal few.

that would be correct, thank you. I am loyal but looking for easy access.

rogifan said:

How about he work on getting ALL of Prince's music on iTunes? Anything non-WB isn't available for purchase. And no I don't want to have to purchase it via Tidal or sign up for some Tidal streaming service.

Tidal is now owned and operated by iTunes

SpinsterSister said:

rogifan said:

How about he work on getting ALL of Prince's music on iTunes? Anything non-WB isn't available for purchase. And no I don't want to have to purchase it via Tidal or sign up for some Tidal streaming service.

Tidal is now owned and operated by iTunes

Are you sure? It would seem that it's not. https://en.wikipedia.org/..._(service)

Pgeishirt said:

SpinsterSister said:

laurarichardson said:

SpinsterSister said:

Tidal is now owned and operated by iTunes

-- No it is not.

My bad - thanks for the info.

Another example of super lazy, substandard people that he surrounded himself with, most times. Ugh.

darkroman said:

Who is Londell?

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A collector?

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Tell him boots can't be discussed.

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He is obviously IT illiterate as he's had at least 30 years to try to find Prince boots!... or he's not heard of Amazon!

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[Edited 8/24/16 21:29pm]

Give me a break. This is so ignorant. This douchbag is going to bill $650 an hour to the estate for reading your idiotic tweets and responses regarding information they already know. HELLO ?!!!

laurarichardson said:

1725topp said:

Do y'all think this could also be an opportunity for fans to get ahead of this process and express to the Estate what we would like to purchase and in what manner? We know that music will be for sale, but is it a possiblity that we--hardcore fans--could influence what is sold and how it's sold? For instance, I would like to see a website which would allow us to purchase/download albums for $10 - $20 and have the option to purchase/download individual singles from that album for $.99. And, I think this could work for studio and live material as well as video. So, we could be able to purchase/download an entire video of concert for $10 - $20, and we could be able to purchase/download a video of a single song/performace from a concert for $.99. (I ask for this becuse I'm more interested in live material than songs from the vault. Also, I often mix and match songs/performances from various live shows. So rather than having video of one show from the Diamonds and Pearls Tour, I have mixed together my favorite moments from various shows of that tour to create my own video compilation of the Diamonds and Pearls Tour.) I should add that I'd hope we would be able to do the same for the promotional videos as well. So, we would be able to download each promotional video for $.99 or even downland them in some two hour grouping of promotional video for $10 - $20.

*

My ultimate point is maybe the moderators of Prince.org and Housequake can complile some type of list of what fans would like to be able to purchase and how we would like to purchase it and then submit it to whomever is handling how his work is to be sold. Doing this will inform those folks who probably have no clue what hardcore fans desire, making it simple for them to understand and meet the market demand. (These folks only understand dollars so let's show them for what we are willing to pay and how we are willing to pay for it.) This may be a stupid idea, but rather than just us (me included) complaining about what those idiots handling Prince's music dosen't know about the music and what fans want, this could be the one and only opportunity for us to help them to provide to us what we want, which is as much access to the music (audio and video) as possible.

--- This is a good idea and people should tweet what they would like to Londell.

laurarichardson said:

1725topp said:

Do y'all think this could also be an opportunity for fans to get ahead of this process and express to the Estate what we would like to purchase and in what manner? We know that music will be for sale, but is it a possiblity that we--hardcore fans--could influence what is sold and how it's sold? For instance, I would like to see a website which would allow us to purchase/download albums for $10 - $20 and have the option to purchase/download individual singles from that album for $.99. And, I think this could work for studio and live material as well as video. So, we could be able to purchase/download an entire video of concert for $10 - $20, and we could be able to purchase/download a video of a single song/performace from a concert for $.99. (I ask for this becuse I'm more interested in live material than songs from the vault. Also, I often mix and match songs/performances from various live shows. So rather than having video of one show from the Diamonds and Pearls Tour, I have mixed together my favorite moments from various shows of that tour to create my own video compilation of the Diamonds and Pearls Tour.) I should add that I'd hope we would be able to do the same for the promotional videos as well. So, we would be able to download each promotional video for $.99 or even downland them in some two hour grouping of promotional video for $10 - $20.

*

My ultimate point is maybe the moderators of Prince.org and Housequake can complile some type of list of what fans would like to be able to purchase and how we would like to purchase it and then submit it to whomever is handling how his work is to be sold. Doing this will inform those folks who probably have no clue what hardcore fans desire, making it simple for them to understand and meet the market demand. (These folks only understand dollars so let's show them for what we are willing to pay and how we are willing to pay for it.) This may be a stupid idea, but rather than just us (me included) complaining about what those idiots handling Prince's music dosen't know about the music and what fans want, this could be the one and only opportunity for us to help them to provide to us what we want, which is as much access to the music (audio and video) as possible.

--- This is a good idea and people should tweet what they would like to Londell.

*

Thanks, and, since I'm not on any social media--Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.--this means that I must open a Twitter account so that I can help tweet this. Maybe, if enough of us contact the Estate individually or collectively with our desires, it could impact what is made available and how it is made available.

LONDELL...

Make everything available on itunes. EVERYTHING.

Your 30+ years behind on boots so just forget about that and give everyone who pays for music the opportunity to purchase high quality audio/video. Make it easy make it affordable and make it happen asap.

I would buy every single show he ever did if it were released in high quality video maybe in 'digital box sets'. ?

How about a yearly rlease that compiles all of Princes work in that year - ie: 1979: tours aftershows one offs releases ....

you've got 40 years worth of stuff - get busy on that and stop chasing down whats already out there.

terrig said:

jayspud said:

terrig said:

LONDELL...

Make everything available on itunes. EVERYTHING.

Your 30+ years behind on boots so just forget about that and give everyone who pays for music the opportunity to purchase high quality audio/video. Make it easy make it affordable and make it happen asap.

I would buy every single show he ever did if it were released in high quality video maybe in 'digital box sets'. ?

How about a yearly rlease that compiles all of Princes work in that year - ie: 1979: tours aftershows one offs releases ....

you've got 40 years worth of stuff - get busy on that and stop chasing down whats already out there.

Whilst, yes, that would be great, although I do find Itunes like dealing with a website from the nineties, without cracking down on file sharing the first customer will simply share every single file entirely for free.

While this is true many more people BUY. They need to stop ignoring the people who do pay because of the people that don't. Itunes still makes a shit ton of money. People who steal are always people who steal. But penalizing the people who don't is TIRED. I was happy to support and participate in whatver way Prince wanted to allow access to his music.

Have money will pay - give me my PRINCE. Play full on concerts as shows at PP? I'll GO. Offer me streams? I'll pay. Box sets. I'll buy. JUST GET IT OUT THERE.

djThunderfunk said:

terrig said:

LONDELL...

Make everything available on itunes. EVERYTHING.

Your 30+ years behind on boots so just forget about that and give everyone who pays for music the opportunity to purchase high quality audio/video. Make it easy make it affordable and make it happen asap.

I would buy every single show he ever did if it were released in high quality video maybe in 'digital box sets'. ?

How about a yearly rlease that compiles all of Princes work in that year - ie: 1979: tours aftershows one offs releases ....

you've got 40 years worth of stuff - get busy on that and stop chasing down whats already out there.

I agree with this This would be so easy to do! Why do they make it so hard?? It's absolutely pointless going after all the boots that are already out there.They need to just start putting everything on iTunes.

SoulAlive said:

terrig said:

LONDELL...

Make everything available on itunes. EVERYTHING.

Your 30+ years behind on boots so just forget about that and give everyone who pays for music the opportunity to purchase high quality audio/video. Make it easy make it affordable and make it happen asap.

I would buy every single show he ever did if it were released in high quality video maybe in 'digital box sets'. ?

How about a yearly rlease that compiles all of Princes work in that year - ie: 1979: tours aftershows one offs releases ....

you've got 40 years worth of stuff - get busy on that and stop chasing down whats already out there.

I agree with this This would be so easy to do! Why do they make it so hard?? It's absolutely pointless going after all the boots that are already out there.They need to just start putting everything on iTunes.

RT? They have UNRELEASED in the vault. They can focus on giving access to things that have already been released and making available everything everywhere - then they can do vualt releases a few times a year - hell we'll be set for the next 50 years....

People still buy Elvis - They will buy Prince - focus on the people who WILL BUY.

I will travel to Paisely to see 'concerts screenings' of select shows - it would be like he's rt there playing live - they can draw people to the museum like the Pink Floyd show at the Hayden Planetarium in NYC

Ive seen the Hayden Plaetarium shows so many times I lost count - its not like there isnt an outlet in other ways for Princes music...

They should hire me - I got ideas!!!

I wear my boots proudly.

laurarichardson said: