Kara said:

leadline said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Well if Judith HIll is to be believed, Prince acknowledged a problem and agreed to get help, so that would indicate he was voluntarily using something that he had become dependent upon. Otherwise, wouldn't he be trying to find out who drugged him on the plane?

You may consider her credible, I do not.

As I said "if she is to be believed." I do not know her. But there is also the report that Dr. Kornfeld's son was there when Prince was found and reportedly he was sent by Dr. Kornfeld who was contacted by Prince's staff because of a "grave medical emergency." Since he is a pain management/addiction specialist, that would seem to indicate there was a problem to be addressed.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

leadline said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Unfortunately I have to agree with this. It's really hard to believe people close to him or around him for any length of time were not aware. There have been several who stated he was in constant pain and taking pain meds. I think they are just not telling the public what they know out of respect for Prince.

Tweet from Adrian who was in his inner circle, make of it what you will

Adrian Crutchfield ‏@GOODSAX 13m13 minutes ago

Like i been saying.... #theivesnthetemple... and dont believe the hype. Wasnt an accident...

[Edited 8/22/16 7:38am]

I am at peace that Prince was on pain killers and got a bad batch that were laced with fentanyl and that is what killed him on April 21st. It is tragic, but I can process it in my mind.

What I am not at peace with is that he overdosed a few days earlier after the Atlanta concert on percocet and that no fentanyl was found in his system after that incident according to the reports. He would have died if he were alone and not on a plane with people.

I want to say it was the bad fentalyl laced batch that killed him. But the Moline incident just doesn't make sense to me. Makes me feel like there was a bigger issue. Makes me feel like he did have an out of control addiction and that is what killed him, not the bad batch. Makes me feel like perhaps he wanted to go.

leadline said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

GOOD QUESTION, and one I have been asking from day one. Certainly seems very odd and suspicious that he left that clinic right after Prince died.

people with nothing to hide have no reason to run, clearly he has something to hide

Well I can imagine he could possibly be feeling guilty that he did not help Prince well enough or quick enough. But that's no reason to leave your place of employment...unless he was being harrassed.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Tracyh74 said:

flipper1960 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

so people are dropping like flies from the pills marked as hydrocodone but are really fentanyl, but how many of them are worth 300 million?

obviously prince did not buy these pills himself, it seems like everyone agrees about this.

it seems like most people agree he was probably taking lower level pain killers, to kill pain. but he did not have a perscription for those either, so someone was also supplying these to him, and was farmiliar with how long a certain number of pills would last, so in other words new how many he was taking.

so why is it so far fetched, that a super rich guy with no childern, no wife, and no will, who is found dead with pills that looked exactly like the pills he always took, but were leathal, could have been by design?

drug dealers have pill presses that can press any substance into what ever the press stamps it.

someone could have requested fentynal pills that look like hydrocodone, they would have know he was going to overdose thinkning they were hydrocodone, and knowing that people are dropping like flys from these fake pills, that more than likely everyone would assume that is what happened to prince.

if this exact situation happened to some semi rich guy down the street, and not a mega star, the cops at the very least would be looking at who would benifit from his death to see if there was a motive.

could have been given the pills accidetnally for sure, but he could also have been given them on purpose

interesting

Considering Prince lived in an area where he had grown up and lived most of his life, and undoubtedly knew many people and had relatives, I don't find it so hard to fathom that he could've purchased the drugs himself. That crap is everywhere and people from all walks of life are using it. All it would take is a phone call and the drugs could be delivered to him in exchange for cash. Especially if he was trying to hide it from EVERYONE else. Maybe not likely, but certainly possible.

laurarichardson said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

So the sources leaking info should be prosecuted? Well then I guess you're not interested in what has been reported...that's why you're here commenting on the subject right? Oooookay.

--- Putting out medical information is illegal.

Is HIPAA still in effect if someone is dead? I'm just asking because I really don't know.

When Van Jones was on CNN right after Prince's demise, he said he felt guilty. He was genuinely upset. The female lawyer out in California - who had done business with Prince in the past - was the person called by someone on Prince's team. She contacted Dr. Kornfeld. Why didn't she tell Prince's people to basically lock him up at that very moment? Guilty? Ya think?

roxy831 said:

leadline said:

people with nothing to hide have no reason to run, clearly he has something to hide

Or maybe he's just afraid of the Purple Army

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

if dr schulenberg has no culpability why did he bolt?

It's only on the org that he 'bolted'. In real life, he drove over to Paisley Park, saw the numerous police officers on the scene, stopped and parked his car and got out and voluntarily spoke with them. He was interviewed by investigators and appeared to have told them what he knew. No untoward behavior was reported in the accidentally-leaked related search warrant.

He seemingly reported the investigation to his employer immediately and in some manner left his job, which could mean anything or be std procedure for such cases. He hired an attorney as has everyone else remotely connected. The attorney has spoken to the press at least once. As advised by investigators and his attorney and HIPAA law and likely his former employer as well, he has not spoken to the press. There is no indication he has been charged/indicted with any wrongdoing in the past 4 months by either the police or the state medical board. That doesn't mean it won't happen and I don't know anything either way other than what has been reported.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

EnDoRpHn said:

They need to bring charges against whoever dressed him in a garment bag and got him to wear black clogs with purple socks.

lol who the hell told my baby that flip flops w sox look sexy??? lol

Thanks for the needed laugh! Think it was later than 2015 because of the 'do he's wearing. Think Andy Allo was also with him on this trip from other pix I have seen.

Kara said:

Eileen said:

teach49 said:

XxAxX said:

i hope everyone connected goes down. i don't care if they considered themself prince's besties, they suck.

and by remaining silent this long they have tarnished prince's reputation forever. we now know he was not a long-term fentanyl abuser, yet he is now the poster child for same.

REAL friends of prince would step up and honor his memory by telling the truth

While it's possible some aren't talking because there is an investigation, I tend to agree with you here. I think some believe they are honoring Prince by not talking about his private life. The problem with that is that he is no longer here to be a living, walking antidote to rumors about him. He's no longer here to write lyrics that suggest there's more to the story. He's not here to give the side-eye to people asking questions in interviews. Yes, he didn't try to explain himself, but he was alive and sometimes just living life contradicted some of the stories. And I think he sued some people who went too far (but my memory is fuzzy about some of those stories from the old days...sex dungeons and all).

I've said it before and I'll say it again: While it's understandable and to some extent admirable to honor someone's wishes after they pass, it's not always the right choice. You have to make decisions on your own, and trying to guess what a dead person would want is an exercise in futility. The living are left with this mess; whether it's his legacy or salacious rumors, people need to be objective and realize that the best choice may not be what Prince would do.

Sigh.

I agree with this 100%. Their silence is also possibly preventing others from being helped as a result of Prince's story which is making national headlines. His death from Fentanyl has already opened up the world wide discussion of the overprescribing of opiates and now the dangers of these deadly bootleg pills. People could be helped by getting the true story out there! Even if it were no more than he had become dependent on legally prescribed pain meds....that eventually led to his death.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

lol who the hell told my baby that flip flops w sox look sexy??? lol

LOL! Maybe those are Princey's travel jammies.

oh sweet Princey!! if so man id love to curl up in those jammies! miss him so much!

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Tracyh74 said:

nursev said:

She's been an addict for years like someone said earlier and she's a great lady but the same drug...something ain't right.

Wonder if she had RX for it.

Who knows, but I don't think Chaka was ever in any kind of physical "pain"...

donnyenglish said:

I am at peace that Prince was on pain killers and got a bad batch that were laced with fentanyl and that is what killed him on April 21st. It is tragic, but I can process it in my mind.

What I am not at peace with is that he overdosed a few days earlier after the Atlanta concert on percocet and that no fentanyl was found in his system after that incident according to the reports. He would have died if he were alone and not on a plane with people.

I want to say it was the bad fentalyl laced batch that killed him. But the Moline incident just doesn't make sense to me. Makes me feel like there was a bigger issue. Makes me feel like he did have an out of control addiction and that is what killed him, not the bad batch. Makes me feel like perhaps he wanted to go.

Okay now even if he did have an addiction that was so out of control that he overdosed (and we don't know for certain what drugs were in his system on the plane), and then he happened to take a pill at a later date that contained a deadly mixture of drugs, that certainly does NOT mean he "wanted to go." It just means he had a problem, for which he was reportedly seeking help.

laurarichardson said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

So the sources leaking info should be prosecuted? Well then I guess you're not interested in what has been reported...that's why you're here commenting on the subject right? Oooookay.

--- Putting out medical information is illegal.

I suppose that depends upon who the "sources" are that are putting out the information. Could be a family member that has seen medical records, who knows?

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

leadline said:

Tweet from Adrian who was in his inner circle, make of it what you will

Adrian Crutchfield ‏@GOODSAX 13m13 minutes ago

Like i been saying.... #theivesnthetemple... and dont believe the hype. Wasnt an accident...

[Edited 8/22/16 7:38am]

It's still up there on his twitter page, safe to say the inner circle probably has more perspective on the matter than any of us.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Vox said:

CROWNS1 said: Well said. I do agree, however, that whoever is making this stuff available to the public should be shut down, and prosecuted if possible. Such a shame. [Edited 8/22/16 3:56am]

So the sources leaking info should be prosecuted? Well then I guess you're not interested in what has been reported...that's why you're here commenting on the subject right? Oooookay.

Fentany takes about 3 days to clear the system.

leadline said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Good point. Since they have reported it was pills he ingested and not patches or injections, it seems highly unlikely anyone forced the pills down his throat. Meaning he "self administered" the pills - unless someone held a gun to his head and made him swallow. LOL.

Pills can be crushed and hidden in food, I assueme there are a lot of different ways to get someone to ingest something withou their knowledge.

[Edited 8/22/16 8:01am]

True, but I am not buying the conspiracy theories.

herb4 said:

AA1slot said:

leadline said:

Pills can be crushed and hidden in food, I assueme there are a lot of different ways to get someone to ingest something withou their knowledge.

[Edited 8/22/16 8:01am]

True, but I am not buying the conspiracy theories.

Just because it is a star does not make it a conspiracy theory, that word has been made to have such a negative stigma behind it, to the point that people automatically discount anything in relation to it when it is used. In Prince's case, if you discount it simply because you think murder=conspiracy, well, it does him an injustice because if it is true, then any evidence or facts in relation to that so called conspiracy theory are automatically discounted and thrown out simply because nobody wants to be associated with that word. Leaving no stone unturned is entertaining all possibilites, regardless of connotation or perception.

[Edited 8/22/16 9:01am]

laurarichardson said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Not a user or abuser? Having unlabeled or unprescribed controlled medication is "abuse." How do you explain all of the controlled substances they found in random containers like vitamin or Aleve bottles? It was reported that he did not have prescriptions for controlled substances. Just because they reported he wasn't a long term user of Fentanyl does not prove he wasn't taking other pain killers and it certainly does not prove he wasn't taking pain killers for a long period of time. If this was some conspiracy or foul play, the perpetrator wouldn't need to plant so many different bootleg pills in so many places throughout Prince's home and his belongings. The foul play here is that either Prince or someone on his behalf illegally obtained deadly bootleg pills that were purposely stamped improperly!

--- Lord have mercy the stuff he was taking is a cobo if Tylnol and codiene it is not even that strong. We are not saying he did not have problem but he was not the strung out junky that some were making him out to be. I guess you missed that the pills were mis-labeled.

No I didn't miss that at all and I have never said he was a strung out junkie! Did you miss the report that there were several different kinds of drugs found? The fact is we have no idea what kind of drugs he was taking or how many or in what combination. But we do know he was (allegedly) in possession of alot of pills which were obtained illegally. He should have known better and I believe in his right state of mind he would never have done so.

laurarichardson said:

Eileen said:

It's only on the org that he 'bolted'. In real life, he drove over to Paisley Park, saw the numerous police officers on the scene, stopped and parked his car and got out and voluntarily spoke with them. He was interviewed by investigators and appeared to have told them what he knew. No untoward behavior was reported in the accidentally-leaked related search warrant.

He seemingly reported the investigation to his employer immediately and in some manner left his job, which could mean anything or be std procedure for such cases. He hired an attorney as has everyone else remotely connected. The attorney has spoken to the press at least once. As advised by investigators and his attorney and HIPAA law and likely his former employer as well, he has not spoken to the press. There is no indication he has been charged/indicted with any wrongdoing in the past 4 months by either the police or the state medical board. That doesn't mean it won't happen and I don't know anything either way other than what has been reported.

--- Why would he leave his practice. Doctors have patients die all the time and they do not close down their office because if it.

If he had a private stand-alone practice that he closed down I haven't heard about it. What I have heard is that he was working for North Memorial - an employer - and shortly after Prince's death, he was not. I can think of the obvious reasons this could point to some level of impropriety, and multiple reasons where it would not. Either way it has little to no bearing on repeated accusations here that he 'bolted' or equivalent, which so far are false going by what has been reported to-date. Even if we find out something untoward later, it wouldn't justify making false statements here now.

leadline said:

AA1slot said:

True, but I am not buying the conspiracy theories.

Just because it is a star does not make it a conspiracy theory, that word has been made to have such a negative stigma behind it, to the point that people automatically discount anything in relation to it when it is used. In Prince's case, if you discount it simply because you think murder=conspiracy, well, it does him an injustice because if it is true, then any evidence or facts in relation to that so called conspiracy theory are automatically discounted and thrown out simply because nobody wants to be associated with that word. Leaving no stone unturned is entertaining all possibilites, regardless of connotation or perception.

[Edited 8/22/16 9:01am]

True. One can only hope that the Sheriffs and DEA are investigating all possibilities. But someone is going to have to talk for them to find out where he got the drugs.