XxAxX said:

strawberrylova123 said:

This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things. I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro­centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment. I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable. It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again.. I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me)

i tried to use the HTLML but i wouldnt work for me

1Sasha said:

I thought Keisha walked into his LA house, not PP.

It was the LA house, allegedly. She was certainly never at Paisley Park.

[Edited 8/22/16 13:12pm]

LBrent said:

Bebop17 said:

Well just in case anyone is actually following along at home, paste is actually Control+V, not Control+P

[Edited 8/22/16 12:06pm]

Yeah, y'all were thinking of the song...P Control. Lol

XxAxX said:

leadline said:

laurarichardson said:

What about the guy that owned the Dakota nightclub, people in Channahansee, Walgreen workers,

fans at concerts, the owner of the Electric Fetus, Plenty of people who did not work for him say he looked fine. Even the people who worked for him did not get togehter on the 21 and make a plan to say the exact same things.

Exactly, all accounts, not some accounts, of people, friends, coworkers, seeing him up to the last week of his life, all say the same thing, that is he looked perfectly fine.

If he was withdrawing and taking the H-pain meds (not herion) which people are saying is low level pain med he probaly was fine to get around and do what he needed to do.

I am more disturbed by people discounting that he was in pain.

XxAxX said:

nursev said:

Yep 53 pages

53 pages plus 1 more!

Sherlock "The ORG" Holmes, on the job as usual. it would truly be ironic if we, the ORG, after all these years of trolling around and gossiping and speculating and blessing prince with our erroneous assumptions, comments and free advice, were to pool our collective knowledge and miraculously stumble across the answers we are seeking, leading investigators to the answers ta da!

Org detectives...but notice how every thing is called speculation in here

laurarichardson said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Um, wouldn't most of those that saw him daily be on his payroll? Perhaps they had non-disclosure agreements? Perhaps they are still trying to protect his privacy.

What about the guy that owned the Dakota nightclub, people in Channahansee, Walgreen workers,

fans at concerts, the owner of the Electric Fetus, Plenty of people who did not work for him say he looked fine. Even the people who worked for him did not get togehter on the 21 and make a plan to say the exact same things.

How could you possibly know who got together (or spoke by telephone) and who didn't? Fans at concert didn't see him up close, and if I recall correctly it was either the staff at Walgreens or the record store that reportedly said they mentioned they were glad he was feeling better. I have no idea.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

They better save all the links cuz this thread will go POOF quickly too

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

AA1slot said: My brain is still trying to process these two young women in the bathroom smoking weed. Who were they and why were they with Prince? Assuming this FB post is legit and all...

Does Jill know what the hell she is even talking about is a better question.

She doesn't know anything.

rogifan said:

XxAxX said:

i guess that's possible, but for one thing, personally i never smelled it out there. for another, i never used the bathrooms! i hate public bathrooms of all sorts...

Guess they didn't do a good job of searching people that night.

well, considering i really hated using the bathrooms at PP i could have been wrong back then too i suppose. but if memory serves, from what a former EE told me, prince had a policy against all types of drug use at PP, likely for liability and insurance reasons. i always thought this reputation is one reason why the local police liked and respected him so much.

[Edited 8/22/16 13:19pm]

strawberrylova123 said:

i tried to use the HTLML but i wouldnt work for me

No the link to the post/page not the post itself

nursev said:

Bassette said:

Damn! You all write to fast, I can't keep up, even though I mainly read.

Yep 53 pages

Am I the only person who is only on page 8? You know you can set it to 200 posts per page? Makes it a lot easier to find stuff.

Arjuna said:

nursev said:

XxAxX said:

53 pages plus 1 more!

Sherlock "The ORG" Holmes, on the job as usual. it would truly be ironic if we, the ORG, after all these years of trolling around and gossiping and speculating and blessing prince with our erroneous assumptions, comments and free advice, were to pool our collective knowledge and miraculously stumble across the answers we are seeking, leading investigators to the answers ta da!

Org detectives...but notice how every thing is called speculation in here

the butler did it, speculatively speaking

XxAxX said:

leadline said:

laurarichardson said:

What about the guy that owned the Dakota nightclub, people in Channahansee, Walgreen workers,

fans at concerts, the owner of the Electric Fetus, Plenty of people who did not work for him say he looked fine. Even the people who worked for him did not get togehter on the 21 and make a plan to say the exact same things.

Exactly, all accounts, not some accounts, of people, friends, coworkers, seeing him up to the last week of his life, all say the same thing, that is he looked perfectly fine.

Okay, his chef reported him having physical problems for weeks and not eating. So he was NOT perfectly fine. (Unless chef is lying and part of the conspiracy too.) Regardless of who in his circle said what, IF it is true that he had been seeing a doctor and had meds prescribed (per police warrant) and had been at the hospital for fluids, and (per Judith H) he almost DIED on the plane and then he acknowledged he had a dependency problem and agreed to get help...HE WAS NOT PERFECTLY FINE.

XxAxX said:

nursev said:

Org detectives...but notice how every thing is called speculation in here

the butler did it, speculatively speaking

yep

Arjuna said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

The OP stated " I signed a non-disclosure at Paisley in honor of our innocent relationship over 16 yrs ago" so I assuming it is a female.

No, why would I be? I was in another state in fact alot of states far from Minnie at the time. When you are close to somebody haven't you ever had the instinctual feeling that something is wrong and you call to check on the person? You call just to say, "Are you ok?". That is normal. Not that I have to clarify this but yes, I sat next to Tyka and completely respected her privacy and time with her husband at the event. Some people were talking to them both on and off and out of RESPECT I minded my own business and just sat, observed, relaxed and simply enjoyed the invite and kept myself in the "Now" of the experience. Please just know that I am as upset, as everybody else is and I too want only to know that there was NO Foul Play, period. It truly saddens me to the core this has happened and it can't bring him back but as he always said..."are there really angels or are they just in our mind, I guess it comes out in the wash sometime." Truth is an angel. Take Care.

thank you for speaking up and thank you for calling prince that night. i'm glad he had folks checking in on him and knew he was loved.

nursev said:

They better save all the links cuz this thread will go POOF quickly too

It wont go poof cuz we arent talking about the ex on this thread.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

laurarichardson said:

Not so sure even Prince can waltz out of the hospital with bag of illegal pills and the police are not contacted. At the minium they are going to think you are transporting and selling dope. Rockers get their tour buses pulled over all the time for this stuff. Why would P be able to back on his plane?

I can't imagine he would've been allowed to carry illicit drugs (without prescription) back onto the plane, especially if he was treated for OD. Plus illegal to transport across state lines. But I guess it depends on whether the drugs were actually confiscated by EMT or hospital personnel. There was no report of LE being involved. But for it to be reported that he had many of "those pills" with him at Moline, someone had to have seen the pills.

The plane was a private plane, so I'm not sure if they have to go through the same security that commercial travelers go through. I doubt that he had any pills with him at the hospital because he had to be carried off of the plane. If the illness was an OD, he could have told them what he was taking. I've been in the ER with family members and they were asked what meds they are on. The ER nurse simply writes down the Rx names. They have never asked for a bottle.

strawberrylova123 said:

LuxLove said:

My brain is still trying to process these two young women in the bathroom smoking weed. Who were they and why were they with Prince? Assuming this FB post is legit and all...

I have scrolled on her Jill Jones Universe (Jill Jones-Mühlum) page & her Jill Jones Music page & can not find it anywhere. She did post this article in May

http://thetrashcan.co/tra...n-princes/

which makes me wonder if she would say what's posted here. Unless she has a 3rd FB page? Or there's a fake one?

[/quo. Not fake, she posted this statement three hours ago e]

What a disgusting and disrespectful article. To say that about Prince's loving fans that we don't need to know how he died. Of course, we don't need the "lies" about him being a drug addict, and etc., and "conspiracy theories", but we need to know the "truth". Prince always told us to seek the "truth".

rogifan said:

XxAxX said:

well, considering i really hated using the bathrooms at PP i could have been wrong back then too i suppose. but if memory serves, from what a former EE told me, prince had a policy against all types of drug use at PP, likely for liability and insurance reasons. i always thought this reputation is one reason why the local police liked and respected him so much.

[Edited 8/22/16 13:19pm]

Which gets me back to who were these two young women smoking weed in that bathroom and why were they part of Prince's entourage?

yeah. what happened. wonder exactly who was working for him. do you think PP did thorough background checks for every employee?? how did open drug use become tolerated in his ranks??

Bebop17 said:

nursev said:

Yep 53 pages

Am I the only person who is only on page 8? You know you can set it to 200 posts per page? Makes it a lot easier to find stuff.

Really now cuz I skipped like 20 pages

Sigh....... The news stories are now blowing up but regardless of what is printed. My love and admiration for Prince will never fade. I hope his privacy is maintained, and justice is serve to anyone and anyting that contributed to his untimley passing.

Taking a deep breath.

strawberrylova123 said:

This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things. I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro­centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment. I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable. It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again.. I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me)

So this is supposedly what Jill Jones wrote???

wonder505 said:

Sigh....... The news stories are now blowing up but regardless of what is printed. My love and admiration for Prince will never fade. I hope his privacy is maintained, and justice is serve to anyone and anyting that contributed to his untimley passing.

Taking a deep breath.

Im playing Prince's music right now...All this changes nothing. I will always love him and Imma need Justice for my hero

Arjuna said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

The OP stated " I signed a non-disclosure at Paisley in honor of our innocent relationship over 16 yrs ago" so I assuming it is a female.

No, why would I be? I was in another state in fact alot of states far from Minnie at the time. When you are close to somebody haven't you ever had the instinctual feeling that something is wrong and you call to check on the person? You call just to say, "Are you ok?". That is normal. Not that I have to clarify this but yes, I sat next to Tyka and completely respected her privacy and time with her husband at the event. Some people were talking to them both on and off and out of RESPECT I minded my own business and just sat, observed, relaxed and simply enjoyed the invite and kept myself in the "Now" of the experience. Please just know that I am as upset, as everybody else is and I too want only to know that there was NO Foul Play, period. It truly saddens me to the core this has happened and it can't bring him back but as he always said..."are there really angels or are they just in our mind, I guess it comes out in the wash sometime." Truth is an angel. Take Care.

OKAY, so (What time did you call him the night before he passed?) as you said

(Were you interviewed by the police?) Regardless if you were in another state, if you spoke to Prince the night before he passed it could be relevant to the investigation - who knows.