cloveringold85 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What time did you call him the night before he passed?

Were you interviewed by the police?

Just curious as to the date you went to Kingdom Hall with him, and I need to know why you sat next to Tyka for 6 hours without talking to her??

Just saying.

I don't believe what this person is saying either. So, he/she signs a non-disclosure and a Man has died, this man is Prince and you say NOTHING? Does not sound like a Man of God, to me! Just saying.

The OP stated " I signed a non-disclosure at Paisley in honor of our innocent relationship over 16 yrs ago" so I assuming it is a female.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

cloveringold85 said:

I don't believe what this person is saying either. So, he/she signs a non-disclosure and a Man has died, this man is Prince and you say NOTHING? Does not sound like a Man of God, to me! Just saying.

The OP stated " I signed a non-disclosure at Paisley in honor of our innocent relationship over 16 yrs ago" so I assuming it is a female.

So it's not his wife Claire Elizabeth Nelson then?

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

laurarichardson said:

Not so sure even Prince can waltz out of the hospital with bag of illegal pills and the police are not contacted. At the minium they are going to think you are transporting and selling dope. Rockers get their tour buses pulled over all the time for this stuff. Why would P be able to back on his plane?

I can't imagine he would've been allowed to carry illicit drugs (without prescription) back onto the plane, especially if he was treated for OD. Plus illegal to transport across state lines. But I guess it depends on whether the drugs were actually confiscated by EMT or hospital personnel. There was no report of LE being involved. But for it to be reported that he had many of "those pills" with him at Moline, someone had to have seen the pills.

Of course someone in Moline knew what he was on even if was from a blood test. He stayed until noon the next day. Funny how TMZ can report he was overdosing but missed the story about the bag of pills. How convienent because this type of gossip would have brougt the police to PP.

tish9311 said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

EnDoRpHn said: Awww, I am totally diggin' those purple socks with black clogs. Princey gotta be comfy for traveling..

I like talking about the picture because this thread is saad!!!. But the picture has to be before 2015-before the afro!!!!!

Sorry Tish, that photo with the sandals is from a previous time, the photo I posted above it was from the New Year Eve 2015 party....page back a few and you can see it.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

whatdoesitmatter said:

I totally agree 100%, there was plenty of time for someone to place all this to make it look like he was an addict. Something is not adding up.

So the information that Judith Hill gave about Prince acknowledging a problem and also agreeing to get help is not true? And what about the report of staff contacting Dr. Kornfeld (addiction specialist) for a "grave medical emergency?" His son did show up there.

She stated that she had never seen P like this before, so that could be that he did not know he was taking the wrong medicine,. Secondly this dr is told its a "grave medical emergancy" and sends his son who (a) is a pre- med student and not a licensed doctor (b) sends drugs with him across state lines- which is illegal

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

XxAxX said:

for real. i'd look into the security records/service invoices and maintenance schedule if it were my investigation

Were the security cameras on? Why did this unnamed source put it out that his clothes were on backward? Why is that significant to mention. I think this info was leaked by the police as they have hit a brick wall. It pains me to know that someone got this stuff for him and it could be killing other people and no one will say anything. If he wanted to die because of some terminal health issue then put out the truth. If this were my brother I would be calling a press conference today

i don't know enough to be able to answer that. in my head when i read the words 'security system' i see cameras, keyless doors, central monitors somewhere, and a guard watching over the gates.

but in this case who knows what kind of security tech prince was using? i've heard over the years that he had cameras and microphones in many rooms at paisley and used them.

did he have his own private system? not connected with the physical system of locks and doors?

his bodyguard was on vacation, was there another guard?

in recent years prince was known to have been using volunteer employees for parties, such as the parking lady.

who had keys?

leadline said:

lou1 said:

I'm sure someone has made this observation but if not: He had to have been on something for the last year or two because he was incredibly thin even for Prince. If you look at pics of him at a couple of awards ceremonies you can see it in his face. He lost a bit of subcutaneous fat that left his face looking "bony". In all his years as fit and compact as he was he never had that look. Something had been going on for the last year or two. I keep asking the question of why couldnt it have been addressed which may have saved his life. SAVED HIS LIFE being the parts of that sentence that I can't get past. Such an incredible waste.

Again, pics mean nothing, 1 frame from a crappy video does not paint a picture. Go to the beginning of the post and look at the picture that was posted, then different pictures from same event showing two completely different things. Stick with the feet on the street, those that saw him daily, they have all stated, even up to the very end, that he looked fine and was acting fine.

Um, wouldn't most of those that saw him daily be on his payroll? Perhaps they had non-disclosure agreements? Perhaps they are still trying to protect his privacy.

lou1 said:

I'm sure someone has made this observation but if not: He had to have been on something for the last year or two because he was incredibly thin even for Prince. If you look at pics of him at a couple of awards ceremonies you can see it in his face. He lost a bit of subcutaneous fat that left his face looking "bony". In all his years as fit and compact as he was he never had that look. Something had been going on for the last year or two. I keep asking the question of why couldnt it have been addressed which may have saved his life. SAVED HIS LIFE being the parts of that sentence that I can't get past. Such an incredible waste.

Actually their are two pics of him from the fall. Meeting with the black journalist and at a Vikings game his face actually looks fat. He starts to look bad in January 2016.

rogifan said:

XxAxX said:

ikr!!! i have NEVER smelled the spirits of mary jane at PP and i've seen folks evicted from the Park for having had one drink more than they should have. i actually find it hard to believe that anyone would dare to smoke up inside at paisley park...

This wasn't at Paisley though. I'm assuming it was Oracle arena or where ever they saw Prince?

sorry! misread that

XxAxX said:

rogifan said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said: still who are these people and why would they even attempt something like that anywhere near Prince?

ikr!!! i have NEVER smelled the spirits of mary jane at PP and i've seen folks evicted from the Park for having had one drink more than they should have. i actually find it hard to believe that anyone would dare to smoke up inside at paisley park...

I've been on the Org for almost 15 years (different usernames) and I very distinctly recall people posting about smelling weed in the bathrooms at Paisley or even seeing people doing it.

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I found this Citypages article (scroll down to the bolded part that says "The Crowd")

http://www.citypages.com/music/prince-and-the-npg-at-paisley-park-10-5-13-6643671

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and also this thread from here on the org: http://webcache.googleuse...&gl=us

LBrent said:

Bebop17 said:

Well just in case anyone is actually following along at home, paste is actually Control+V, not Control+P

[Edited 8/22/16 12:06pm]

Yeah, y'all were thinking of the song...P Control. Lol

Oh Noooooooooooo you didn't.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

leadline said:

Again, pics mean nothing, 1 frame from a crappy video does not paint a picture. Go to the beginning of the post and look at the picture that was posted, then different pictures from same event showing two completely different things. Stick with the feet on the street, those that saw him daily, they have all stated, even up to the very end, that he looked fine and was acting fine.

Um, wouldn't most of those that saw him daily be on his payroll? Perhaps they had non-disclosure agreements? Perhaps they are still trying to protect his privacy.

What about the guy that owned the Dakota nightclub, people in Channahansee, Walgreen workers,

fans at concerts, the owner of the Electric Fetus, Plenty of people who did not work for him say he looked fine. Even the people who worked for him did not get togehter on the 21 and make a plan to say the exact same things.

slowlywiltingflower said:

XxAxX said:

ikr!!! i have NEVER smelled the spirits of mary jane at PP and i've seen folks evicted from the Park for having had one drink more than they should have. i actually find it hard to believe that anyone would dare to smoke up inside at paisley park...

I've been on the Org for almost 15 years (different usernames) and I very distinctly recall people posting about smelling weed in the bathrooms at Paisley or even seeing people doing it.

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I found this Citypages article (scroll down to the bolded part that says "The Crowd")

http://www.citypages.com/music/prince-and-the-npg-at-paisley-park-10-5-13-6643671

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and also this thread from here on the org: http://webcache.googleuse...&gl=us

i guess that's possible, but for one thing, personally i never smelled it out there. for another, i never used the bathrooms! i hate public bathrooms of all sorts...

When people reveal things like about facebook posts or pictures or NDAs, whatever it may be please can peeps post links, images, scans, screen caps & the like?

LuxLove said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

The OP stated " I signed a non-disclosure at Paisley in honor of our innocent relationship over 16 yrs ago" so I assuming it is a female.

So it's not his wife Claire Elizabeth Nelson then?

Who knows. LMAO!

laurarichardson said:

Bebop17 said:

Could you please stop calling hydrocone H? H is common street slang for heroin. Has been for decades. Thanks.

-- We are not discussing Herion and everyone knows this. Advice not needed.

It's not advice. It's a request to show some some respect for both P and language. Words have meanings. In this case, that one-letter "word" has a very long established meaning in the context of narcotics, which is what is being discussed here.

People skim. People cut and paste bits and pieces. People misunderstand and misinterpret even things that are written accurately and clearly, and using H the way you have is neither. It's blatantly disrespectful and misleading. Please stop.

laurarichardson said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Um, wouldn't most of those that saw him daily be on his payroll? Perhaps they had non-disclosure agreements? Perhaps they are still trying to protect his privacy.

What about the guy that owned the Dakota nightclub, people in Channahansee, Walgreen workers,

fans at concerts, the owner of the Electric Fetus, Plenty of people who did not work for him say he looked fine. Even the people who worked for him did not get togehter on the 21 and make a plan to say the exact same things.

Exactly, all accounts, not some accounts, of people, friends, coworkers, seeing him up to the last week of his life, all say the same thing, that is he looked perfectly fine.

Bassette said:

Damn! You all write to fast, I can't keep up, even though I mainly read.

Yep 53 pages

After all of these pages of speculation, I have come to one conclusion: we don't know anything except for the immediate cause of death. Orgers are arguing back and forth over something they don't know about. I have chimed in here and there, too, but we have to agree Prince made a mistake in taking illicit medication(s). He had no prescription for any opiods from a Minnesota source over the past year. Yes, he was a good man, and a brilliant talent, but he had a weakness and that killed him.

Bebop17 said:

laurarichardson said:

Bebop17 said: -- We are not discussing Herion and everyone knows this. Advice not needed.

It's not advice. It's a request to show some some respect for both P and language. Words have meanings. In this case, that one-letter "word" has a very long established meaning in the context of narcotics, which is what is being discussed here.

People skim. People cut and paste bits and pieces. People misunderstand and misinterpret even things that are written accurately and clearly, and using H the way you have is neither. It's blatantly disrespectful and misleading. Please stop.

Reading is fundamental. Not one article has mentioned Heroin but I am sure some non-reading person will think Prince was on Heroin no matter what I type. I don't think I have heard anyone use H for heroin since I read a dime store novel from the 1950s.

[Snip - luv4u]

1Sasha said:

After all of these pages of speculation, I have come to one conclusion: we don't know anything except for the immediate cause of death. Orgers are arguing back and forth over something they don't know about. I have chimed in here and there, too, but we have to agree Prince made a mistake in taking illicit medication(s). He had no prescription for any opiods from a Minnesota source over the past year. Yes, he was a good man, and a brilliant talent, but he had a weakness and that killed him.

-- A weakness called joint pain.

Sigh

[Edited 8/22/16 13:09pm]

This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things. I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro­centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment. I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable. It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again.. I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me)

XxAxX said:

laurarichardson said:

Were the security cameras on? Why did this unnamed source put it out that his clothes were on backward? Why is that significant to mention. I think this info was leaked by the police as they have hit a brick wall. It pains me to know that someone got this stuff for him and it could be killing other people and no one will say anything. If he wanted to die because of some terminal health issue then put out the truth. If this were my brother I would be calling a press conference today

i don't know enough to be able to answer that. in my head when i read the words 'security system' i see cameras, keyless doors, central monitors somewhere, and a guard watching over the gates.

but in this case who knows what kind of security tech prince was using? i've heard over the years that he had cameras and microphones in many rooms at paisley and used them.

did he have his own private system? not connected with the physical system of locks and doors?

his bodyguard was on vacation, was there another guard?

in recent years prince was known to have been using volunteer employees for parties, such as the parking lady.

who had keys?

Either Kirk or Meron (or both) must have had keys since they reportedly found him.

mano said:

These pill reports reopen the wound to the point of bleeding. Pills everywhere! Gosh, it's no longer he was just self medicating to deal with pain and got addicted. At this point it seems like our beloved Prince was a stone cold drug addict!

How in the world could this have happened? Who was helping this happen? I'm just shaking my head.

100 pills is a little over a ninety day supply. It does not mean he was taking a 100 a day. I honestly don't know what is going on with our educational system today.

nursev said:

Bassette said:

Damn! You all write to fast, I can't keep up, even though I mainly read.

Yep 53 pages

53 pages plus 1 more!

Sherlock "The ORG" Holmes, on the job as usual. it would truly be ironic if we, the ORG, after all these years of trolling around and gossiping and speculating and blessing prince with our erroneous assumptions, comments and free advice, were to pool our collective knowledge and miraculously stumble across the answers we are seeking, leading investigators to the answers ta da!

XxAxX said:

slowlywiltingflower said:

I've been on the Org for almost 15 years (different usernames) and I very distinctly recall people posting about smelling weed in the bathrooms at Paisley or even seeing people doing it.

-

I found this Citypages article (scroll down to the bolded part that says "The Crowd")

http://www.citypages.com/music/prince-and-the-npg-at-paisley-park-10-5-13-6643671

-

and also this thread from here on the org: http://webcache.googleuse...&gl=us

i guess that's possible, but for one thing, personally i never smelled it out there. for another, i never used the bathrooms! i hate public bathrooms of all sorts...

I personally never smelled it there myself either, but I just remember reading about it happening because it surprised me that anybody would be so bold/stupid/rude to do that there. And I agree w/ you about public bathrooms! ugh