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Reply #300 posted 07/30/16 12:50pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

deerpath said:

Perhaps this person is connected to the earlier story about the law firm having confidential information it wanted to share with the court? That this man is Prince's son and Prince provided for him and his mother all these years as someone else mentioned. The keep quiet kind of arrangement.

THAT could be why the mother would not tout her child as Prince's son. Not to mention security issues. Perhaps Prince knew about the boy, provided for the boy and his mother--in an arrangement that was hidden.

The one news story talked about the son being in negotiations with the estate.

He might well want to learn to use his father's PP as his fortress now... whoa...

Did any women claim to be his daughter? Of the two legal children we know about, one was a boy the other a girl.

It is my understanding the girl will not be making a claim and has been taken care of financially. I believe P had more than one child, knew about them, and had a relationship about them, and took care of them through a Trust Agreement, and that is why you wont see them come forward.

It's your understanding...from what? From what legitimate verifiable sources are you getting your information...and "understanding?" confused

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Reply #301 posted 07/30/16 1:11pm

selah

laytonian said:



selah said:


laytonian said:


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Prince could have maintained his privacy by writing a will, estate plan and trusts. Like the judge said the other day "once it became a court matter, privacy is not an issue".


Darn you, P.


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If he had trusts those can be kept private; a will is public. So if there is a child/ren and he knew about them and supported them, privately someone is busting the files. . If he didn't know about them..it's a shame...dah well. .

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Yes, a trust is private BUT it must be known to the estate. Otherwise, the trust cannot be honored.


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You are correct. Let me clarify that my feelings are regards to the media/public knowing not the estate/administrator
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Reply #302 posted 07/30/16 1:19pm

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laytonian said:

selah said:

laytonian said: If he had trusts those can be kept private; a will is public. So if there is a child/ren and he knew about them and supported them, privately someone is busting the files. . If he didn't know about them..it's a shame...dah well. .

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Yes, a trust is private BUT it must be known to the estate. Otherwise, the trust cannot be honored.

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It depends on how the Trust document was written. If the Trust was funded with a lump sum payment years ago then the Estate would not know because it is not the Estate's money.

If the Trust is still being funded money through Prince's assets then the Estate would know.

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Reply #303 posted 07/30/16 1:22pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It is my understanding the girl will not be making a claim and has been taken care of financially. I believe P had more than one child, knew about them, and had a relationship about them, and took care of them through a Trust Agreement, and that is why you wont see them come forward.

It's your understanding...from what? From what legitimate verifiable sources are you getting your information...and "understanding?" confused

If I gave you my "legitimate verifiable sources" then I blow someone's cover, right?

So, lets go with .......its a rumor.

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Reply #304 posted 07/30/16 1:32pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

purplethunder3121 said:

It's your understanding...from what? From what legitimate verifiable sources are you getting your information...and "understanding?" confused

If I gave you my "legitimate verifiable sources" then I blow someone's cover, right?

So, lets go with .......its a rumor.

Yeah, let's go with that. razz lol

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Reply #305 posted 07/30/16 1:35pm

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The grandiose claims with absolutely no backup, no links to legal precedence, nothing at all but the words of some random person on the internet. Yep I'll follow right along blindly behind witty vague words. That's what I'm here for.
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Reply #306 posted 07/30/16 1:38pm

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morningsong said:

The grandiose claims with absolutely no backup, no links to legal precedence, nothing at all but the words of some random person on the internet. Yep I'll follow right along blindly behind witty vague words. That's what I'm here for.

If its on the Internet, it's true.lol lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #307 posted 07/30/16 1:54pm

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morningsong said:

The grandiose claims with absolutely no backup, no links to legal precedence, nothing at all but the words of some random person on the internet. Yep I'll follow right along blindly behind witty vague words. That's what I'm here for.

That's what "they" want us to believe... wink lol

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Reply #308 posted 07/30/16 2:08pm

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laytonian said:



selah said:


laytonian said:


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Prince could have maintained his privacy by writing a will, estate plan and trusts. Like the judge said the other day "once it became a court matter, privacy is not an issue".


Darn you, P.


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If he had trusts those can be kept private; a will is public. So if there is a child/ren and he knew about them and supported them, privately someone is busting the files. . If he didn't know about them..it's a shame...dah well. .

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Yes, a trust is private BUT it must be known to the estate. Otherwise, the trust cannot be honored.


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--- The estate will know but not the public.
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Reply #309 posted 07/30/16 2:25pm

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laurarichardson said:

YaThink said:
He's a beautiful soul. I'm here to keep it real.
-// I have not said he was not a beautiful soul. Mental illness is an illness. Oh and that Facebook post that Tkya put up was from a year ago so at least a year ago he was at the VA hospital.

You said, "he wasn't all there", which is quite disrespectful to anyone, let alone a veteran. You also said Omar was "in bad shape". Care to elaborate on that one??? confused

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Reply #310 posted 07/30/16 2:43pm

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motherfunka said:



laurarichardson said:


YaThink said:
He's a beautiful soul. I'm here to keep it real.

-// I have not said he was not a beautiful soul. Mental illness is an illness. Oh and that Facebook post that Tkya put up was from a year ago so at least a year ago he was at the VA hospital.



You said, "he wasn't all there", which is quite disrespectful to anyone, let alone a veteran. You also said Omar was "in bad shape". Care to elaborate on that one??? confused


He is not all there and there is nothing disrespectful about saying that in fact their are much worst things you can say about someone with mental issues. His being a Vet may have nothing to do with his issues since Charles Smitn had already had already said his behavior was odd before he went into the service. I thought Omarr was being left out because he was Mattie's child but someone in here explained he was still good as an heir.
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Reply #311 posted 07/30/16 5:01pm

laytonian

laurarichardson said:

motherfunka said:

You said, "he wasn't all there", which is quite disrespectful to anyone, let alone a veteran. You also said Omar was "in bad shape". Care to elaborate on that one??? confused

He is not all there and there is nothing disrespectful about saying that in fact their are much worst things you can say about someone with mental issues. His being a Vet may have nothing to do with his issues since Charles Smitn had already had already said his behavior was odd before he went into the service. I thought Omarr was being left out because he was Mattie's child but someone in here explained he was still good as an heir.

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WHAT? You seriously thought Omarr would be left out because he was Mattie's child?

Why would that be any different than a half-sibling who John L fathered?

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eek eek eek eek eek eek

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Reply #312 posted 07/30/16 5:18pm

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Reply #313 posted 07/30/16 5:29pm

Eileen

morningsong said:

99% proof of a sole heir but we don't want to make a claim because we want to keep this private so we put it in public print. Yep makes perfect sense.


The only mention of a source in the article references "she said" along with a quote that sounds like it came from someone connected with the lab. This Santa Monica media outlet is listed as specializing in local news. The lab is in Santa Monica. Everything else in the piece seems to be pulled from scattered, random online articles. There is no "we" in the article that I can see outside of the newspaper staff.


Again, no idea if there is any truth to the piece whatsoever.

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Reply #314 posted 07/30/16 5:56pm

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Eileen said:

morningsong said:

99% proof of a sole heir but we don't want to make a claim because we want to keep this private so we put it in public print. Yep makes perfect sense.


The only mention of a source in the article references "she said" along with a quote that sounds like it came from someone connected with the lab. This Santa Monica media outlet is listed as specializing in local news. The lab is in Santa Monica. Everything else in the piece seems to be pulled from scattered, random online articles. There is no "we" in the article that I can see outside of the newspaper staff.


Again, no idea if there is any truth to the piece whatsoever.

It is a suspect article.

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Reply #315 posted 07/30/16 6:51pm

Scarfo

......*sigh* all this time and they're barely scratching the surface at square one. It may be years from now when this is finally settled. Sad...

[Edited 7/30/16 18:52pm]

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Reply #316 posted 07/30/16 8:49pm

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laytonian said:



laurarichardson said:


motherfunka said:




You said, "he wasn't all there", which is quite disrespectful to anyone, let alone a veteran. You also said Omar was "in bad shape". Care to elaborate on that one??? confused



He is not all there and there is nothing disrespectful about saying that in fact their are much worst things you can say about someone with mental issues. His being a Vet may have nothing to do with his issues since Charles Smitn had already had already said his behavior was odd before he went into the service. I thought Omarr was being left out because he was Mattie's child but someone in here explained he was still good as an heir.

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WHAT? You seriously thought Omarr would be left out because he was Mattie's child?


Why would that be any different than a half-sibling who John L fathered?


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eek eek eek eek eek eek


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If you go back and read the most recent legal docs the judge references the siblings of John definitely being heirs but seems to question the children of Mattie someone else explained that Omar was good as I misunderstood that he was cleared earlier. If you scroll back this was discussed. I don't need your nonsense when you can go back and read the comments.
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Reply #317 posted 07/30/16 9:40pm

icequeen78

That estabon bennermon dude is fine as hell . Lord. He may or may not be the issue of PRN but as a man he is beautiful... Lord
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Reply #318 posted 07/31/16 12:46am

tmo1965

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:

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Prince could have maintained his privacy by writing a will, estate plan and trusts. Like the judge said the other day "once it became a court matter, privacy is not an issue".

Darn you, P.

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-- He could have put some portion of the estate in a trust. Trust do not go through the court so we will never know. It is possible that this person had a DNA because a paternity test was taken a long time ago and the work product that the Enfrom firm could have turned over to the court a work product which could have been concerning a settlement or a trust concerning a child or with the mom. This kid could be trying to get around whatever the agreement was but I am not sure how they can do this without going to the court and losing their privacy. I also wonder if this had anything to do with his divorce.

The person in the article is in his 30's, so I don't think so.

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Reply #319 posted 07/31/16 12:55am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

purplethunder3121 said:

It's your understanding...from what? From what legitimate verifiable sources are you getting your information...and "understanding?" confused

If I gave you my "legitimate verifiable sources" then I blow someone's cover, right?

So, lets go with .......its a rumor.

So you're saying that you have inside information from someone in a position to know?

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Reply #320 posted 07/31/16 3:18am

icequeen78

tmo1965 said:



YaThink said:


laytonian said:


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This ruling is based on only those siblings' who claim that their relationship is through John L. Nelson.



Alfred Jackson and Omarr Baker's claims will be handled separately, as they are not claiming lineage from John L.



It all has to be done a piece at a time.


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Correct, and in addition, it's one sure fire way of proving fatherhood since it's what most of the objections stem from. If they line them all up, it's proof positive they all come from John L. Nelson. Omarr and Alfred Jr are excluded because there is no objection to the mother of Prince.

But why are they making Tyka take a DNA test? She is Prince's sibling through their mother.



Tyka is also his only full siblings so she could establish a baseline for both sides
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Reply #321 posted 07/31/16 3:38am

icequeen78

You know the strange thing about this.. I saw somewhere some tea about Prince having a child who has been provided for with basically a gag order on them and the child wanted to come forward. It does make you wonder though... this was before his death
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Reply #322 posted 07/31/16 4:51am

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tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


laytonian said:


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Prince could have maintained his privacy by writing a will, estate plan and trusts. Like the judge said the other day "once it became a court matter, privacy is not an issue".


Darn you, P.


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-- He could have put some portion of the estate in a trust. Trust do not go through the court so we will never know. It is possible that this person had a DNA because a paternity test was taken a long time ago and the work product that the Enfrom firm could have turned over to the court a work product which could have been concerning a settlement or a trust concerning a child or with the mom. This kid could be trying to get around whatever the agreement was but I am not sure how they can do this without going to the court and losing their privacy. I also wonder if this had anything to do with his divorce.

The person in the article is in his 30's, so I don't think so.


--- No, I meant if his second wife found about an agreement concerning a child.
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Reply #323 posted 07/31/16 4:52am

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icequeen78 said:

You know the strange thing about this.. I saw somewhere some tea about Prince having a child who has been provided for with basically a gag order on them and the child wanted to come forward. It does make you wonder though... this was before his death

/// I remember seein that blind item as well.
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Reply #324 posted 07/31/16 6:56am

1Sasha

laurarichardson said:

icequeen78 said:
You know the strange thing about this.. I saw somewhere some tea about Prince having a child who has been provided for with basically a gag order on them and the child wanted to come forward. It does make you wonder though... this was before his death
/// I remember seein that blind item as well.

Well, if there is a child and/or children, I cannot understand why he would not have a relationship with them, especially if financial support arrangements were in place. If he thought it would affect his marriages - those ended. Did either wife know about offspring, if there was a child or children? He remained alone. Wouldn't his religion advise him to be a true father to any child, even if he never married the mother? But he mentored girls/women young enough to be his daughters ... Of course, male celebrities are often seen with women less than half their ages.

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Reply #325 posted 07/31/16 7:11am

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1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

icequeen78 said: /// I remember seein that blind item as well.

Well, if there is a child and/or children, I cannot understand why he would not have a relationship with them, especially if financial support arrangements were in place. If he thought it would affect his marriages - those ended. Did either wife know about offspring, if there was a child or children? He remained alone. Wouldn't his religion advise him to be a true father to any child, even if he never married the mother? But he mentored girls/women young enough to be his daughters ... Of course, male celebrities are often seen with women less than half their ages.

We dont know whether P had a relationship with these children. He was always on the down low.

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Reply #326 posted 07/31/16 8:30am

laytonian

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:

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WHAT? You seriously thought Omarr would be left out because he was Mattie's child?

Why would that be any different than a half-sibling who John L fathered?

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eek eek eek eek eek eek

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If you go back and read the most recent legal docs the judge references the siblings of John definitely being heirs but seems to question the children of Mattie someone else explained that Omar was good as I misunderstood that he was cleared earlier. If you scroll back this was discussed. I don't need your nonsense when you can go back and read the comments. [Edited 7/30/16 20:51pm]

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There is NO "seems to question". These court proceedings were only on the subject of the children of John L and the heirship questions of Duane's offspring. Mattie's children were not the topic, which is why they were not mentioned.

There will be separate court proceedings for Omarr and Alfred.

I do not speak nonsense. Rather, I clean up misunderstandings.

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Reply #327 posted 07/31/16 8:43am

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laytonian said:



laurarichardson said:


laytonian said:


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WHAT? You seriously thought Omarr would be left out because he was Mattie's child?


Why would that be any different than a half-sibling who John L fathered?


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eek eek eek eek eek eek


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If you go back and read the most recent legal docs the judge references the siblings of John definitely being heirs but seems to question the children of Mattie someone else explained that Omar was good as I misunderstood that he was cleared earlier. If you scroll back this was discussed. I don't need your nonsense when you can go back and read the comments. [Edited 7/30/16 20:51pm]

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There is NO "seems to question". These court proceedings were only on the subject of the children of John L and the heirship questions of Duane's offspring. Mattie's children were not the topic, which is why they were not mentioned.



There will be separate court proceedings for Omarr and Alfred.



I do not speak nonsense. Rather, I clean up misunderstandings.


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Are you having a reading comprehension problem. Did I not state that this was explained and I went back and read the docs. I did not ask or need you to clean up anything.
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Reply #328 posted 07/31/16 8:48am

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1Sasha said:



laurarichardson said:


icequeen78 said:
You know the strange thing about this.. I saw somewhere some tea about Prince having a child who has been provided for with basically a gag order on them and the child wanted to come forward. It does make you wonder though... this was before his death

/// I remember seein that blind item as well.

Well, if there is a child and/or children, I cannot understand why he would not have a relationship with them, especially if financial support arrangements were in place. If he thought it would affect his marriages - those ended. Did either wife know about offspring, if there was a child or children? He remained alone. Wouldn't his religion advise him to be a true father to any child, even if he never married the mother? But he mentored girls/women young enough to be his daughters ... Of course, male celebrities are often seen with women less than half their ages.


--/ If he had settlement agreements he may have a relationship with them. He appears to have some what of a normal non-celebrity life in his hometown. Already someone said in the 90s some little boy was seen around the Paisley Parties maybe that was his son we just don't everything about his private life. I kind of thought he was smart to a portion of his life away from the spotlight.
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Reply #329 posted 07/31/16 9:09am

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laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Well, if there is a child and/or children, I cannot understand why he would not have a relationship with them, especially if financial support arrangements were in place. If he thought it would affect his marriages - those ended. Did either wife know about offspring, if there was a child or children? He remained alone. Wouldn't his religion advise him to be a true father to any child, even if he never married the mother? But he mentored girls/women young enough to be his daughters ... Of course, male celebrities are often seen with women less than half their ages.

--/ If he had settlement agreements he may have a relationship with them. He appears to have some what of a normal non-celebrity life in his hometown. Already someone said in the 90s some little boy was seen around the Paisley Parties maybe that was his son we just don't everything about his private life. I kind of thought he was smart to a portion of his life away from the spotlight

@laurarichardson, I heard that too about the little boy at PP in the 90's!

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