BeauGurl...That was well said and put together..I got choked up when I read your take about his airplane ride and last time on the elevator.

ought the remark "save your prayers for a few days..." was because he was planning to go to rehab. They had contacted the dr in california by then. i don't believe he was suicidal. it seemed to me like he was trying to ween himself off(bad idea). withdrawl symptoms are like severe flu. going back and forth between using and cold turkey throws your body into shock and cardiac arrest. regardless, it hurts my heart that he died alone. iknowing that just takes my breath away.

BeauGurl said:

Reading so many of the negative comments on social media is breaking my heart even more than the day we heard Prince had passed. But I can feel the deep love you folks have for him and it comforts me. I, too, am devastated by his passing and can not stop thinking about him. Endless tears for days now. There's such a heaviness in my heart & soul. I've been devouring every article and interview I can find about him. ­­­And listening, again, to his music fill not only my ears but every part of my body and mind. It's incredible the way he could do that to so many of us.

I came here looking to see if anybody else felt it was possible that Prince may have chosen to opt out of this world and into the Afterlife purposely? After seeing him sitting at that piano during his last show in Atlanta, giving such an amazing performance, it made me wonder how long he had been using that huge graphic of the avatar in his show? The one where both his eyes are closed, and the third eye is opened. To hear he had been reminiscing of his father and becoming emotional ­­­---even crying and needing to go backstage to recompose himself. Inviting old friends to PP. The announcement of a book deal!

It just seems like there were many, many signs (especially since January) that he knew his time here was coming to an end.

I can't help but wonder if he intended to die peacefully that night on the plane. Close to the Heavens, punching through to the "higher floor." Instead, his people panicked when they realized he was dying and made an emergency landing. He was carried (unconcious) off the plane and was brought back to this life. When he awakened after the shot of Narcan he promptly left the hospital, against medical advice, and in his own words... he had been transformed!

My hope is that his experience in those moments before he was revived was everything he had imagined it would be.

I believe it's possible that he had a terminal illness and didn't want to be a burden to anybody. He didn't want to let his fans and friends down. Perhaps he couldn't stand the thought of not being meticulous from head to toe? Didn't want to get too sick that he couldn't be PRINCE. He wanted to be in control of his destiny and his life ­­­even if that meant ending it. IF the reports are true that he had been using pain meds for years, one thing is certain to me: He controlled the pills, they didn't control him.

So Prince goes home after all the hoopla at the hospital in Moline. And he is FEELING THE LOVE. Everyone is calling him, checking up, sending their love. Fans are blowing up social media w/ concerned well­-wishes. (His people that were with him on the plane must have been going crazy with worry about him, wanting him to rest, and frantically trying to figure out how to get him help). But what does he want to do? Prince wants to party like it's 1999! So he decides to throw a party at PP and invites the luckiest 200 fans to come and see him one final time. Because, afterall, life is just a party...

But parties weren't meant to last.

So he enjoys the next few days of this life the best he can. I imagine some of his representatives were hounding him to get help, trying not to leave him alone, maybe even threatening to call that doctor in California. But Prince knows it's his time. He asked everyone to leave PP. His cook said in an interview there was a different vibe there the last night he brought him dinner. It wasn't the usual jovial place it had been.

I don't believe Prince had any fear of dying. Instead, he stepped into the privacy of that elevator welcoming it. He was ready to leave the pain and suffering, the loneliness of this world behind. It was no accident. He knew that is where his body would be found. There may have even been a letter right there with him, instructing that he was to be cremated immediately. Perhaps even notifying people he had left no Will --because money didn't matter tonight. He was on his way to celebrate what comes next. And sending yet another sign to all of us. Was he going to let that elevator bring him down? Hell NO! He used it symbolically. It was his way of showing us he had transcended to the place his soul came from. Back to the God that he had such a deep and loving belief in. He was showing us he was in control and wanted it this way.

I hope that I have put this in a way so as not to offend or unnerve.

Whatever actually happened that night, we will probably never really know. Choosing to believe this is the way it may have went down helps me to cope. And it's makes a lot more sense than all the other smack talk going around.

Rest in Paradise, Beautiful One.

You wil forever be a part of so many people who truly adored you. <3

Nice way of weaving a narrative through the facts.. too bad we'll likely never know what really happened..

gatorgirl said:

Though not confirmed, reports are saying he had a dangerously low red blood cell count. A lot of things could cause this, certain anemias or even some cancers. I do not think it was from his diet. If you don't have red blood cells, you can't transport oxygen. Percocet can cause breathing issues but usually only in those with existing breathing issues, like not having enough red blood cells. .

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I was thinking about this low red cell count and I thought maybe, if he'd been taking Percocets or other painkillers for as long as reports are saying, he'd developed an ulcer - a bleeding ulcer. An ulcer could contribute to the stomach pain, obviously, (although I realize that his stomach pain could be attritubed to a number of other issues as well, as of yet unknown and uncomfirmed) but also cause the low red cell count if he was having continuous bleeding from it. My mother had bleeding issues caused and exacerbated by medications she was on the last few years of her life, so that's why this thought occured to me. I don't know that the medical examiner would've necessarily mentioned if they'd found he'd had stomach ulcers or GI bleeding, until the toxicology reports come back which could possibly confirm that? Just thinking about everything. Trying to make sense of SOMETHING about it. this all has been so hard for me to handle these past two weeks.

[Edited 5/6/16 22:50pm]

FunkyStrange said:

RiotPaisley said:

BeauGurl said:

Reading so many of the negative comments on social media is breaking my heart even more than the day we heard Prince had passed. But I can feel the deep love you folks have for him and it comforts me. I, too, am devastated by his passing and can not stop thinking about him. Endless tears for days now. There's such a heaviness in my heart & soul. I've been devouring every article and interview I can find about him. ­­­And listening, again, to his music fill not only my ears but every part of my body and mind. It's incredible the way he could do that to so many of us.

I came here looking to see if anybody else felt it was possible that Prince may have chosen to opt out of this world and into the Afterlife purposely? After seeing him sitting at that piano during his last show in Atlanta, giving such an amazing performance, it made me wonder how long he had been using that huge graphic of the avatar in his show? The one where both his eyes are closed, and the third eye is opened. To hear he had been reminiscing of his father and becoming emotional ­­­---even crying and needing to go backstage to recompose himself. Inviting old friends to PP. The announcement of a book deal!

It just seems like there were many, many signs (especially since January) that he knew his time here was coming to an end.

I can't help but wonder if he intended to die peacefully that night on the plane. Close to the Heavens, punching through to the "higher floor." Instead, his people panicked when they realized he was dying and made an emergency landing. He was carried (unconcious) off the plane and was brought back to this life. When he awakened after the shot of Narcan he promptly left the hospital, against medical advice, and in his own words... he had been transformed!

My hope is that his experience in those moments before he was revived was everything he had imagined it would be.

I believe it's possible that he had a terminal illness and didn't want to be a burden to anybody. He didn't want to let his fans and friends down. Perhaps he couldn't stand the thought of not being meticulous from head to toe? Didn't want to get too sick that he couldn't be PRINCE. He wanted to be in control of his destiny and his life ­­­even if that meant ending it. IF the reports are true that he had been using pain meds for years, one thing is certain to me: He controlled the pills, they didn't control him.

So Prince goes home after all the hoopla at the hospital in Moline. And he is FEELING THE LOVE. Everyone is calling him, checking up, sending their love. Fans are blowing up social media w/ concerned well­-wishes. (His people that were with him on the plane must have been going crazy with worry about him, wanting him to rest, and frantically trying to figure out how to get him help). But what does he want to do? Prince wants to party like it's 1999! So he decides to throw a party at PP and invites the luckiest 200 fans to come and see him one final time. Because, afterall, life is just a party...

But parties weren't meant to last.

So he enjoys the next few days of this life the best he can. I imagine some of his representatives were hounding him to get help, trying not to leave him alone, maybe even threatening to call that doctor in California. But Prince knows it's his time. He asked everyone to leave PP. His cook said in an interview there was a different vibe there the last night he brought him dinner. It wasn't the usual jovial place it had been.

I don't believe Prince had any fear of dying. Instead, he stepped into the privacy of that elevator welcoming it. He was ready to leave the pain and suffering, the loneliness of this world behind. It was no accident. He knew that is where his body would be found. There may have even been a letter right there with him, instructing that he was to be cremated immediately. Perhaps even notifying people he had left no Will --because money didn't matter tonight. He was on his way to celebrate what comes next. And sending yet another sign to all of us. Was he going to let that elevator bring him down? Hell NO! He used it symbolically. It was his way of showing us he had transcended to the place his soul came from. Back to the God that he had such a deep and loving belief in. He was showing us he was in control and wanted it this way.

I hope that I have put this in a way so as not to offend or unnerve.

Whatever actually happened that night, we will probably never really know. Choosing to believe this is the way it may have went down helps me to cope. And it's makes a lot more sense than all the other smack talk going around.

Rest in Paradise, Beautiful One.

You wil forever be a part of so many people who truly adored you. <3

[Edited 5/6/16 11:32am]

BeauGurl, this was very insightful, and had me tearing up just thinking about a lot of things. Thank you for your thoughtful words.

DJ2Sad said:

In that same Rolling Stone article from 1990, Prince says something else that gives me great comfort about his passing: "When I pray to God, I say, 'It's your call — when it's time to go, it's time to go. But as long as you're going to leave me here - then I'm going to cause much ruckus!'"

He did that and then some, and his legacy of ruckus will live forever.

Nice. I like that, thank you.

wonderboy said:

BeauGurl said:

I had thought all along (before he died) that he was sick. Once he died, and theories about the pain killers emerged, I told myself it didn't matter --- it's senseless either way and all I care about is that his musical legacy is treated the way he'd want it to be. (that doesn't appear likely though).

In well over 30 years of my Prince-love, I've never had a dream about him.

But suddenly last night I started dreaming about him. One of those dreams in a dream in a dream. I'd dream that they found a video that he left explaining what happened to him. Then woke up from that dream to dream that the autopsy had been released, and so on for several levels. None of it matters and none of it "means" anything other than to realize I'm still far more impacted by his death and the manner of his death than I'd like to admit to myself. The dream was sad and lonely . . . as I fear he was in the end.

I know it's likely to be a while before official reports, but I do wish that they could get on with it so maybe we can move on from the rumors and maybe heal a little.

FunkyFingers said:

It would make sense being he was very ill the last week the hospital visit in moline the frequent trips to walgreens the appearance at paisley concert the comments made about save ur prayers a couple days then to b left alone at paisley park the day he died Prince always had security with him which leaves me to think he knew he was dying

Sadly I believe this to be true. on some of the more recent pictures he looked quite skinny and a bit poorly.

My heart is breaking and always will be.

Maybe sounds silly but I feel like I lost a piece of me ... like many others feel

[Edited 5/9/16 14:52pm]

[Edited 5/9/16 14:56pm]

I actually think he knew he was dying, that is if he actually died. But I wonder if he actually is dead I admit it. You know those little towns in the USA, you can pull a lot of stuff and get away with it...maybe you guys have never lived in one and had a relative who has pulled a hundred things and gotten away with them all and you are just sitting there shaking your head like...What? I mean, he was probably the most well known person in his small town minnesota and could have done about anything. Maybe he just wanted peace somewhere and to get well or something. Well, go ahead, call me delusional. Man he was kinda out there though. *not a long term fan, a newbie who is just speculating these musicians are all in to this symbolism and stuff...I mean, they do weird things even when they aren't well known

BeauGurl said:

cindyt said:

I actually think he knew he was dying, that is if he actually died. But I wonder if he actually is dead I admit it. You know those little towns in the USA, you can pull a lot of stuff and get away with it...maybe you guys have never lived in one and had a relative who has pulled a hundred things and gotten away with them all and you are just sitting there shaking your head like...

- Hmm, I would love to believe it, but Prince was too attached with MPLS AND Paisley Park. I cant imagine him leaving it all behind.

Strange how these threads go on and one asking where the decision to cremate Prince came from was locked.

the biggest question i have is what was he doing in the elevator when he died?

i mean of all places why the elevator??

Aerogram said:

You don't order a new piano and new guitar that you clearly are excited about if you have no intention to ever play them. You don't write the first 50 pages of an autobiography if you don't plan to finish it. You don't schedule additional concert dates if you plan to check out and end your life before those dates on the calendar.

Of course if his brain was under the influence of narcotics, anything is possible as to what he was thinking and what he could have done... but no way he was planning to take himself out anytime soon. And no way he thought he would die of natural causes anytime "soon". It just doesn't add up.

[Edited 5/15/16 22:24pm]

prittypriss said: