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Reply #241 posted 03/20/16 10:20am

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docinwestchester said:

If there is an audio version, who will read it?

(sorry if this has already been discussed)

Well that would be a nice unconventional way to present a book. An extended MP4. Helpful for the blind. But a hard copy for notes is always a must.

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Reply #242 posted 03/20/16 10:25am

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AnnaSantana said:

Bohemian67 said:

It's not about sales. It's a gift to fans.

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BULLSHIT.

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Your language is unsustainable.

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Reply #243 posted 03/20/16 10:43am

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Bohemian67 said:

docinwestchester said:

If there is an audio version, who will read it?

(sorry if this has already been discussed)

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Well that would be a nice unconventional way to present a book. An extended MP4. Helpful for the blind. But a hard copy for notes is always a must.

Audio books are hardly unconventional. They are an important media platform for most authors these days. The Elvis Costello memoir on CD (read by the author - almost 19 hours!) is fantastic:

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Reply #244 posted 03/20/16 10:48am

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I know. Just worried that Prince's 'unconventional' means audio only and I'd like a hard copy. Librovox is also my thing.

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Reply #245 posted 03/20/16 10:48am

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Bohemian67 said:

KingSausage said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

it'll b a limited edition...

It will be. The sales won't justify a second printing.

It's not about sales. It's a gift to fans.

Undertaking any autobiography, is a massive task. It's an inside look from the kitchen kleineworstje over a long period of many interesting creative years. I wonder how many pages your autobiography would fill and whether anything in there would be worth reading, or if anyone would even be interested in reading it.

To the publisher it's all about sales. This is no gift to fans. And you know who decides a second printing? The publisher.

Also, Prince doing this book as a gift to fans? Right...

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Reply #246 posted 03/20/16 10:51am

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I hope Random House pays D'Angelo and Questlove to read the audiobook version of Prince's MEGA MEMOIR so that it actually has a chance of being interesting.

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Reply #247 posted 03/20/16 10:52am

docinwestchest er	Bohemian67 said: ^ I know. Just worried that Prince's 'unconventional' means audio only and I'd like a hard copy. Librovox is also my thing. Gotcha. Of course there would have to be a paper version too. Audio only would make no sense.
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Reply #248 posted 03/20/16 11:03am

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KingSausage said:
Bohemian67 said: To the publisher it's all about sales. This is no gift to fans. And you know who decides a second printing? The publisher. Also, Prince doing this book as a gift to fans? Right...

We're clearly not the same page and I don't want to be.

Why would Prince bother to invest the time into this after all these years of not having done so? He's a musiciain not an author. I doubt it's an easy task. More like stepping outside your comfort zone which I doubt you do much kleineworstje.

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Reply #249 posted 03/20/16 11:04am

murph	The amount of bitching about a book that may or may not even see the light of day is wild....lol If it's true that Prince truly hates his fans there seems to be some real circle of life shit going on.... The Org: Where crazy happens.... [Edited 3/20/16 15:07pm]
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Reply #250 posted 03/20/16 11:08am

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Bohemian67 said:

KingSausage said:

Bohemian67 said: To the publisher it's all about sales. This is no gift to fans. And you know who decides a second printing? The publisher. Also, Prince doing this book as a gift to fans? Right...

We're clearly not the same page and I don't want to be.

Because he's desperate for money after decades of shitty career decisions? Because the whole Tidal thing isn't working out for him? Because he's empty inside and needs the attention? The hell if I know. But those theories are much more realistic than "a gift to fans." That's laughable.

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Reply #251 posted 03/20/16 11:11am

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Pentacle said:

Wow, all my remarks on this thread have been removed.

Luckily I saved them for my own future MEGA memoir.

Your remarks disappeared as quickly as Prince's MEGA MEMOIR will vanish from the charts.

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Reply #252 posted 03/20/16 11:27am

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KingSausage said:
Bohemian67 said:

We're clearly not the same page and I don't want to be.

Why would Prince bother to invest the time into this after all these years of not having done so? He's a musiciain not an author. I doubt it's an easy task. More like stepping outside your comfort zone which I doubt you do much kleineworstje.

Because he's desperate for money after decades of shitty career decisions? Because the whole Tidal thing isn't working out for him? Because he's empty inside and needs the attention? The hell if I know. But those theories are much more realistic than "a gift to fans." That's laughable.

Prince needs money?
Tidal isn't working out? Power to the artists. No new idea works instantly. 20 years women fought for the vote. Other justifications have taken longer.
Needs attention? Who doesn't? Seems like you love it

Who else would he write it for? Himself? For history maybe because it would be unfair to not share and pass on what he has learnt or discovered over the years after giving so much to the world in terms of creativity.

Which ex-band do you belong to? Or are you a Warner employee? Prince not bending to your wishes huh? Or didn't bend in the past and you're still hung over...

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Reply #253 posted 03/20/16 11:31am

luvsexy4all	he does something u all want ..and it only seems to spark simultaneous bowel movemnts....i dont understand some people.....
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Reply #254 posted 03/20/16 12:07pm

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EmmaMcG said:

AnnaSantana said:

Their entire mental fantasy is based upon the illusion that Prince can do no wrong. The thought of that illusion being shattered scares the hell out of them, because once that's gone...who are they?

There's only one person I've ever seen on the org that thinks Prince can do no wrong. I think most people on here accept that Prince is human and like all humans, makes mistakes. I certainly don't think the man is perfect, there are a lot of songs he's done that I'll gladly never listen to again, but likewise, there are songs which will stay with me forever. I'd imagine most people on here feel that way. Everyone has their own taste in music. As for Prince's personal life and business dealings, I'm not particularly interested. Sure, like everyone else here, I have my opinions on what I think Prince SHOULD do, but he's made it this far without our advice. I'm interested in this book because I hope he'll delve into the meaning behind some of his songs. Why he wrote them, what his inspirations are etc. I have my fears that he'll let the "unconventional" part take over and we'll be left with a glorified photo album with a few little anecdotes spread throughout. And if that does prove to be the case, then so what? You don't have to buy it. I'm sure some of us would like something like that, others, myself included, wouldn't, so we simply don't buy it. But the fact is, we don't know what form it's going to take yet so to automatically assume it's going to be shit, if it ever comes out, is just as bad as assuming it's going to be a MASTERPIECE.

Oh look, another fan who fails to ignore THE MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE. Here's an idea: go look up every publication Prince was involved in (books, magazines) and see if they're shite. Hint: some of them are mentioned here already. PrinceVault has a list. But for some reason you lot seem to think that we should ignore past performance and pretend all the previous shite he published (and his illiterate Twitter feed and his lying-my-ass-off interviews) aren't indications of the sort of thing we're gonna get.

So now we have at least two issues: chances this is going to be actually published (already very slim considering his past performance and especially considering this invovles something a YEAR into the future) and chances this isn't going to suck (very slim considering his other written output).

---- You are comparing fan club mags and books with autobiography with a major publisher. In the end if this falls apart it will be between Prince and publisher and will have no effect on our lives.

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Reply #255 posted 03/20/16 12:08pm

NorthC	KingSausage said: Pentacle said: Wow, all my remarks on this thread have been removed. Luckily I saved them for my own future MEGA memoir. Your remarks disappeared as quickly as Prince's MEGA MEMOIR will vanish from the charts. Nonsense. Pentacle's comments are still there.
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Reply #256 posted 03/20/16 12:14pm

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NorthC said:
KingSausage said:

Your remarks disappeared as quickly as Prince's MEGA MEMOIR will vanish from the charts.

Nonsense. Pentacle's comments are still there.

Touche. smile

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Reply #257 posted 03/20/16 12:24pm

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The Preence heroin is ready peeps:

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All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!

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Reply #258 posted 03/20/16 12:28pm

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docinwestchester said:

Bohemian67 said:

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Well that would be a nice unconventional way to present a book. An extended MP4. Helpful for the blind. But a hard copy for notes is always a must.

Audio books are hardly unconventional. They are an important media platform for most authors these days. The Elvis Costello memoir on CD (read by the author - almost 19 hours!) is fantastic:

What's unconventional about Costello's project isn't that there's an audio version, but that there is also a companion/soundtrack album for the book, with some rarities and unreleased stuff. So...

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Reply #259 posted 03/20/16 12:46pm

dm3857

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KingSausage said:
The sales won't justify a second printing.
Sadly, you're almost certainly correct. The book announcement forces the question (at least for the publisher who has to pay the advance) - how many people these days want to hear what Prince has to say? Relative to what the number would have been 20 years ago, it's tiny. Factoring in what we know about Prince's philosophical shifts over the years - does anyone expect today's Prince will discuss the PMRC/"Darling Nikki" thing in a way as fascinating as he could have in 1995? - it is difficult to imagine the content Prince will be willing to provide will in any way position the book to break out to a wide audience. Good news for those already interested, of course, is that if the book gets published at all, its appeal in the long term is immaterial. One printing will be plenty. [Edited 3/20/16 7:30am] [Edited 3/20/16 7:31am] [Edited 3/20/16 7:31am]

how many people these want to hear what Prince has to say? Prince is still one of the most respected musicians alive, whether or not Prince.org wants to believe so or not. That's like saying who cares what Keith Richards has to say anymore? (I use Keith because his memoir is highly acclaimed and is only a few years old) Prince writing a book is going to draw intrest from a lot of people, especially fans and music lovers in general.

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Reply #260 posted 03/20/16 1:24pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The Preence heroin is ready peeps:

No it isn't. It's more than a year away and it only goes up to 2007 so what have you got instead?

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Reply #261 posted 03/20/16 1:45pm

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dm3857 said:

snakesineverycolor said:

KingSausage said:
The sales won't justify a second printing.

Sadly, you're almost certainly correct. The book announcement forces the question (at least for the publisher who has to pay the advance) - how many people these days want to hear what Prince has to say? Relative to what the number would have been 20 years ago, it's tiny. Factoring in what we know about Prince's philosophical shifts over the years - does anyone expect today's Prince will discuss the PMRC/"Darling Nikki" thing in a way as fascinating as he could have in 1995? - it is difficult to imagine the content Prince will be willing to provide will in any way position the book to break out to a wide audience. Good news for those already interested, of course, is that if the book gets published at all, its appeal in the long term is immaterial. One printing will be plenty. [Edited 3/20/16 7:30am] [Edited 3/20/16 7:31am] [Edited 3/20/16 7:31am]

Looking at Prince's recent album sales, I think it's safe to say that "interest" or "respect" doesn't translate into sales.

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Reply #262 posted 03/20/16 1:57pm

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KingSausage said:

dm3857 said:

snakesineverycolor said:

KingSausage said:
The sales won't justify a second printing.

Sadly, you're almost certainly correct. The book announcement forces the question (at least for the publisher who has to pay the advance) - how many people these days want to hear what Prince has to say? Relative to what the number would have been 20 years ago, it's tiny. Factoring in what we know about Prince's philosophical shifts over the years - does anyone expect today's Prince will discuss the PMRC/"Darling Nikki" thing in a way as fascinating as he could have in 1995? - it is difficult to imagine the content Prince will be willing to provide will in any way position the book to break out to a wide audience. Good news for those already interested, of course, is that if the book gets published at all, its appeal in the long term is immaterial. One printing will be plenty. [Edited 3/20/16 7:30am] [Edited 3/20/16 7:31am] [Edited 3/20/16 7:31am]

Looking at Prince's recent album sales, I think it's safe to say that "interest" or "respect" doesn't translate into sales.

You've seen Rhiannas latest sales figures then? One of the biggest music stars in the world..at the height of her powers.....selling fuck all in comparison to her so called status Dude...stop making up stuff!

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Reply #263 posted 03/20/16 1:59pm

PURPLEIZED3121	luvsexy4all said: he does something u all want ..and it only seems to spark simultaneous bowel movemnts....i dont understand some people..... Pretty simple...it's more a reflection on the writer than Prince. Can u imagine if they met him face to face!
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Reply #264 posted 03/20/16 2:08pm

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My thoughts....

A: When has Prince ever delivered on something he announced a year in advance? (Still waiting for those remasters, Montreux release from NPG Films, etc.) Believe it when it's in your hands...

B: Given his track record, expect the book to be as incomprehensible as Vanity's, filled with revisionist history (let's be honest, his ego will not let him admit his many faults) and stuff we know already, and be sold at an extremely high price, but be in bargain bins within months of his release. (Just like the stacks and stacks of brand new 21 Nights I saw at the former Borders bookstore for $6.75 around 6-7 months after it's release...)

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Reply #265 posted 03/20/16 2:22pm

dm3857

PURPLEIZED3121 said:
KingSausage said:
Looking at Prince's recent album sales, I think it's safe to say that "interest" or "respect" doesn't translate into sales.
You've seen Rhiannas latest sales figures then? One of the biggest music stars in the world..at the height of her powers.....selling fuck all in comparison to her so called status Dude...stop making up stuff!

okay, well look at his current tour, and all of the positive press he has recieved from it.. Madonna's last album sold more than P's sure.. but did you see all of the AWFUL press she was just getting for her shows in Australia.. as opposed to P who just has been praised over and over again for the recent shows in Australia.. so no, i don't believe respect in interest has a whole lot to do with current album sales..

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Reply #266 posted 03/20/16 2:31pm

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Prince, just come back. Heaven's not ready for you yet ..... :'((((

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)

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Reply #267 posted 03/20/16 2:38pm

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PurpleMedley122 said:

My thoughts....

A: When has Prince ever delivered on something he announced a year in advance? (Still waiting for those remasters, Montreux release from NPG Films, etc.) Believe it when it's in your hands...

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B: Given his track record, expect the book to be as incomprehensible as Vanity's, filled with revisionist history (let's be honest, his ego will not let him admit his many faults) and stuff we know already, and be sold at an extremely high price, but be in bargain bins within months of his release. (Just like the stacks and stacks of brand new 21 Nights I saw at the former Borders bookstore for $6.75 around 6-7 months after it's release...)

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You should have bought some, they're selling for around $43 (UK£30) on Amazon at the moment. Regarding your other point, almost all autobiographies see things from the writer's point of view, that's what this genre is. As mentioned Charlie Chaplin reduces a wife to a paragraph. I bet Donald Trump (if he has written one) doesn spend the entire book raking over his possible faults.

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Reply #268 posted 03/20/16 2:39pm

PURPLEIZED3121

dm3857 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

KingSausage said:
Looking at Prince's recent album sales, I think it's safe to say that "interest" or "respect" doesn't translate into sales.

You've seen Rhiannas latest sales figures then? One of the biggest music stars in the world..at the height of her powers.....selling fuck all in comparison to her so called status Dude...stop making up stuff!

Wow literally just finished reading the mess around Madonnas Oz shows...really feel for her. Sad thing is that if it was Prince many would rejoice at this failure...whilst any success is put down to novelty value as per BVHs recent comment.

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Reply #269 posted 03/20/16 2:54pm

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Keith Richards' memoir was indeed highly acclaimed, but Keith Richards has always been a compelling & far more revealing personality & interview than Prince & anyone who follows music & popular culture & is being honest knows & expects this. Richards' book was revealing, witty & informative, with just the right amount of questionable dish.

Can we expect the same from Prince? Time will tell, but given his personality, I won't hold my breath. Will it be honest? Will it be white-washed? Will it be a revisionist take on things we've known for many years already? Will it be a holy roller account of his life story? And why the Super Bowl cut-off date?

And the audiobook version? I'm sure Larry Graham needs work...

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