SoulAlive said:

Everyone knows that the GOP only cares about the wealthy.It's not exactly a big secret.To suggest that the people of Baltimore should embrace that party is absurd.

but let's not derail this thread let's get back to the original topic

SoulAlive said:

Chosen said:

SNIP -OF4S

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SoulAlive said:

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I just said,let's not derail this thread.If you wanna disuss politics,take it to the 'Politics and Religion' forum

SoulAlive said:

I just said,let's not derail this thread.If you wanna disuss politics,take it to the 'Politics and Religion' forum

That's fine. But to be fair, you're in this 50/50

SuperFurryAnimal said:

SNIP -OF4S

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Well I knew things would not change because Obama is another Democrat. Maybe if he was not a Democrat and had new ideas things would Change?

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SNIP -OF4S

It's like Wrestling. WWE.

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Chosen said:

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Fury said:

The song was very warmly received by the crowd and fit very nicely between the hits -- lots of dancing-- those who didn't like the studio version would hopefully appreciate in the context of the show. There were enough heavier topical songs played over the PA well done Prince

that's good to hear

after a few listens , its ok, its not that bad, the guitar gives it a nice vibe all the way through. When you accept , like i have, that princes best recording years are behind him, you still can enjoy the music.

Listened to it yesterday. It's not horrible but the happy and breezy music seems at odds with the lyrical message.

Chosen said:

Prince should use his music to tell the voters of Baltimore to stop voting for Democrats. Baltimore has been run by the Dems since 1971. Let's start there.

How about you take that to another, more appropriate forum?

SuperFurryAnimal said:

funkyfine said:

SNIP -OF4S

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Have been a Prince fan for over 30 years, but he gets more hypocritical all the time. This is the dude who used to have a gun microphone and recorded Bob George. So he is now all about gun control. And he makes a song to "honor" a man who, while he did not deserve to die, had a rap sheet longer than the Bible. He was a career criminal. He did bad things....very bad things to other people. We are at a state in the country where we have been brainwashed to honor these type of folks. When is Prince going to make a song for the cops who have been slaughtered by scum of the Earth people for no reason? Where you at P? Oh I know, it's not politically correct to stand up for the people who protect us. Guess what? Black lives do matter. So do white lives, red lives, yellow lives, brown lives, etc. We will NEVER heal as a country until we stop making everything about race. 48% of the Baltimore police force is black, and 3 of the 6 cops in the Gray case were black. It's a human issue, not a race issue. But Prince is going to fall in line with criminals like Sharpton (how many millions do you owe the IRS bro?) and honor Freddie Gray and ignore the real heros that risk their lives every day for us. Man, we are an ass backwards country at this point.

The crappy thread is appropriate for the crappy song.




In all seriousness, it's a decent song. Decent. Not outstanding. Not horrible. Just OK.

Better than SST by a mile.

Not nearly to the level of depth that Mr. Nelson is capable of.

bonatoc said:

goodness, some really strong views out there , I guess this is mission accomplished then!

murph said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Exactly.

I think that quote was referring to the fact that Prince was reportedly moved to come up with the song on short notice; even working out the kinks of the song in front of a reporter.

I don't think they meant "raw" meaning it was James Brown's "Black And I'm Proud..."

Whether u think the song is shit is a whole other discussion....

Okay, now that I've calmed down, let me rephrase.


1 - I applaud the concert initiative. That's a great move from Prince.

But... What does Jay-Z have to do with it?
From my point of wiew, if you're doing a concert in Baltimore under these circumstances,

you give a concert for Baltimore, the city. You move your ass and go see him, and have a tangible homage.
You don't use the event to promote either Prince® or Tidal©™.



2 - "Raw"?
In that case, it's the journalist's fault: "raw" is not a correct term, as it also suggests a musical adjective.


3 - The song
Why adding this to the concert?
Tell me how putting out a song, whatever its qualities benefits to the Baltimore population ?
Is it intended to be sold?
The concert would have been enough. And it deserves media praise, and everyone's attention.
But the song?

And then, if this a MEDIA ANNOUNCED release, pardon me for having expectations.

They don't put out a trailer for nothing, once the movie is out, they expect you to watch it.

Otherwise, you make the song part of a forthcoming album,
or/and you release without Press Release or Social Media alerts and such.

But it's the "eyes on me, please" attitude the song release suggests that I despite.

The song, being what it is, REALLY doesn't help.


And again, would the zealots please restrain themselves from appeals to accomplishment.

It's childish: This is a public forum about a public persona who acts in public or privately on his own will.

When it's public, I feel free to "opine", even if I have to put out my Mighty Dark Humour Flamethrower, as Pentacle does.
Some of you don't get it, and get all serious on us.

Have a laugh, have a grin, contest with evidence, serve us a funny flame of your own but please don't petronize us.

Lastly, if Prince was nowadays in the same league as Pharrell Williams, or at least not too far,
I would have an entirely different opinion.

But I refute the argument that this release is going to bring in massive bucks.

Again, the poppiness of it kills it for me (pun intended).
And probably for buyers that could have been.

In my book, if you release something about tragic public events on such short notice,
yes, it has to be some kind of "We Are The World" or "Do They Know".
A collective sends a message: "the event is bigger than we as individuals, and it's bigger than us".
The way Prince did it, it brings too much focus on the sole artist, instead of bringing it to the event that justified the song.

[Edited 5/11/15 7:11am]

bonatoc said:

Lastly, if Prince was nowadays in the same league as Pharrell Williams, or at least not too far,
I would have an entirely different opinion.

But I refute the argument that this release is going to bring in massive bucks.

Again, the poppiness of it kills it for me (pun intended).
And probably for buyers that could have been.

In my book, if you release something about tragic public events on such short notice,
yes, it has to be some kind of "We Are The World" or "Do They Know".
A collective send a message: "the event is bigger that we, individuals".
The way Prince did it, it brings primary focus on the sole artist, instead of the event that justified the song.

[Edited 5/11/15 7:09am]

Brought in a 14,000 sold out arena in 5 days...

feeluupp said:

Brought in a 14,000 sold out arena in 5 days...

If you're not reading me, please do not reply.

I said above that I applaud the concert initiative.

This thread is about the song release.

Do you have some evidence that ticket sold after the song release?
Wasn't the concert announced before?

[Edited 5/11/15 7:17am]

bonatoc said:

feeluupp said:

Brought in a 14,000 sold out arena in 5 days...

If you're not reading me, please do not reply.

I said above that I applaud the concert initiative.

This thread is about the song release.

Hahaa when did u become an org cop... Must be bored today I guess.

khelm9 said:

Have been a Prince fan for over 30 years, but he gets more hypocritical all the time. This is the dude who used to have a gun microphone and recorded Bob George. So he is now all about gun control. And he makes a song to "honor" a man who, while he did not deserve to die, had a rap sheet longer than the Bible. He was a career criminal. He did bad things....very bad things to other people. We are at a state in the country where we have been brainwashed to honor these type of folks. When is Prince going to make a song for the cops who have been slaughtered by scum of the Earth people for no reason? Where you at P? Oh I know, it's not politically correct to stand up for the people who protect us. Guess what? Black lives do matter. So do white lives, red lives, yellow lives, brown lives, etc. We will NEVER heal as a country until we stop making everything about race. 48% of the Baltimore police force is black, and 3 of the 6 cops in the Gray case were black. It's a human issue, not a race issue. But Prince is going to fall in line with criminals like Sharpton (how many millions do you owe the IRS bro?) and honor Freddie Gray and ignore the real heros that risk their lives every day for us. Man, we are an ass backwards country at this point.

Wish the org had "like" buttons for posts, because I could not agree more. What you just said is a seriously unpopular opinion (definitely in the Politics and Religion of this site -- one reason why I don't venture in there very often). People are seriously blinded right now. Yeah, there are problems, but making criminals like Brown and Gray martyrs, while making our nation's police (as a whole) the enemy is not the answer (not all facts are even remotely in on the Gray situation; the Grand Jury pretty much summed up what happened regarding Brown). Yes, there are some bad people in every different group you can think of, including police. But judging all police by the actions of a few seems quite familiar and ironic. We've become a nation completely overrun by relativism, and it will completely destroy us.

pzlyprk said:

khelm9 said:

Have been a Prince fan for over 30 years, but he gets more hypocritical all the time. This is the dude who used to have a gun microphone and recorded Bob George. So he is now all about gun control. And he makes a song to "honor" a man who, while he did not deserve to die, had a rap sheet longer than the Bible. He was a career criminal. He did bad things....very bad things to other people. We are at a state in the country where we have been brainwashed to honor these type of folks. When is Prince going to make a song for the cops who have been slaughtered by scum of the Earth people for no reason? Where you at P? Oh I know, it's not politically correct to stand up for the people who protect us. Guess what? Black lives do matter. So do white lives, red lives, yellow lives, brown lives, etc. We will NEVER heal as a country until we stop making everything about race. 48% of the Baltimore police force is black, and 3 of the 6 cops in the Gray case were black. It's a human issue, not a race issue. But Prince is going to fall in line with criminals like Sharpton (how many millions do you owe the IRS bro?) and honor Freddie Gray and ignore the real heros that risk their lives every day for us. Man, we are an ass backwards country at this point.

Wish the org had "like" buttons for posts, because I could not agree more. What you just said is a seriously unpopular opinion (definitely in the Politics and Religion of this site -- one reason why I don't venture in there very often). People are seriously blinded right now. Yeah, there are problems, but making criminals like Brown and Gray martyrs, while making our nation's police (as a whole) the enemy is not the answer (not all facts are even remotely in on the Gray situation; the Grand Jury pretty much summed up what happened regarding Brown). Yes, there are some bad people in every different group you can think of, including police. But judging all police by the actions of a few seems quite familiar and ironic. We've become a nation completely overrun by relativism, and it will completely destroy us.

As I see it,Prince simply did a peace concert for a city that's in pain and trying to figure it all out.Why is that so wrong? You guys are acting as if Prince started the riots again,encouraged people to run in the streets and protest,and repeatedly said "fuck the police" during his show.NONE of those things happened,so stop trying to make him the bad guy.He did something good and should be applauded for it.

SoulAlive said:

pzlyprk said:

Wish the org had "like" buttons for posts, because I could not agree more. What you just said is a seriously unpopular opinion (definitely in the Politics and Religion of this site -- one reason why I don't venture in there very often). People are seriously blinded right now. Yeah, there are problems, but making criminals like Brown and Gray martyrs, while making our nation's police (as a whole) the enemy is not the answer (not all facts are even remotely in on the Gray situation; the Grand Jury pretty much summed up what happened regarding Brown). Yes, there are some bad people in every different group you can think of, including police. But judging all police by the actions of a few seems quite familiar and ironic. We've become a nation completely overrun by relativism, and it will completely destroy us.

As I see it,Prince simply did a peace concert for a city that's in pain and trying to figure it all out.Why is that so wrong? You guys are acting as if Prince started the riots again,encouraged people to run in the streets and protest,and repeatedly said "fuck the police" during his show.NONE of those things happened,so stop trying to make him the bad guy.He did something good and should be applauded for it.

Prince is obviously far from the bad guy, but I think his message was wrong here. He asked people to wear gray to the concert in honor of Freddie. I am all for a "peace" concert, but it needs to promote peace from both sides. Like I said earlier, Freddie Gray did not deserve to die, but he should definitely not be honored either. Ask the many victims that he accured throughout his life if they thought Prince should be honoring him. Let me ask you this....would Prince have brought the prosecuter on stage if no charges were filed?

^^something else: this show was more than just a 'tribute' to Freddie Gray.It was a chance to bring people together,to smile again,enjoy some music and heal.That's what this show was all about.That's the point that you guys are missing.