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Reply #60 posted 04/21/15 9:41am

Pentacle

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For the right amount of guaranteed cash up front, I'm sure he would do remasters and outtakes to some degree.


Cash up front? He made a deal with WB. Time to get busy.

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Reply #61 posted 04/21/15 10:28am

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Pentacle said:



funksterr said:


For the right amount of guaranteed cash up front, I'm sure he would do remasters and outtakes to some degree.




Cash up front? He made a deal with WB. Time to get busy.




biggrin I would never pay Prince cash up front for anything! Cash on delivery of masters only!!!!
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Reply #62 posted 04/21/15 10:48am

lwr001

jaypotton said:

Pentacle said:


Cash up front? He made a deal with WB. Time to get busy.

biggrin I would never pay Prince cash up front for anything! Cash on delivery of masters only!!!!

As Chris Tucker liked to say "sametime"

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Reply #63 posted 04/21/15 11:40am

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He's playing with us, can't you see? Warner's wouldn't have signed him. The remaster is coming, I promise. Trust me. hehee

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #64 posted 04/21/15 12:08pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He's playing with us, can't you see? Warner's wouldn't have signed him. The remaster is coming, I promise. Trust me. hehee

I believe it too, WB ain't playin no games with him and he's just taking his sweet time to save face like a kid doing a chore reeeaaal slow to feel all grown up. Until then, many older fans will steal because older fans can never steal back what they've spent.

[Edited 4/21/15 12:08pm]

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Reply #65 posted 04/21/15 12:27pm

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I can't wait to hear Electric Outercourse and H-Spot.

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Reply #66 posted 04/21/15 12:32pm

funksterr

Pentacle said:

funksterr said:

For the right amount of guaranteed cash up front, I'm sure he would do remasters and outtakes to some degree.


Cash up front? He made a deal with WB. Time to get busy.

That's the other bit of unsettling news the FB hack exposed: Prince is still rerecording the outtakes.

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Reply #67 posted 04/21/15 12:46pm

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funksterr said:

Pentacle said:


Cash up front? He made a deal with WB. Time to get busy.

That's the other bit of unsettling news the FB hack exposed: Prince is still rerecording the outtakes.

I didn't catch that. What did it say about rerecordings?

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Reply #68 posted 04/21/15 12:51pm

funksterr

paulludvig said:

funksterr said:

That's the other bit of unsettling news the FB hack exposed: Prince is still rerecording the outtakes.

I didn't catch that. What did it say about rerecordings?

The 'hacker' announced a new version of A 1000 Hugs and Kisses was going to be posted to the FB account. Confirmed to exist the next day by attendees at the Paisley Dance Party who said it was played that night.

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Reply #69 posted 04/21/15 1:08pm

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PurpleSkipper58 said:


HatrinaHaterwitz said:




Nah! The husband is just a selfish twisted fuck that likes to go buy the necklaces for himself to wear. He keeps them hidden in a secret room under the house. falloff


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Reply #70 posted 04/21/15 1:16pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I can't wait to hear Electric Outercourse and H-Spot.

Hemorrhoid? lol

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Reply #71 posted 04/21/15 1:22pm

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funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

I didn't catch that. What did it say about rerecordings?

The 'hacker' announced a new version of A 1000 Hugs and Kisses was going to be posted to the FB account. Confirmed to exist the next day by attendees at the Paisley Dance Party who said it was played that night.

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Very nice that there's a new version and that people got to hear it at the party! Makes you wonder about the other posts, 3rdeyegirl about to be dropped just before HiTnRuN tour starts...for real?! Not sure about the omelettes..there's egg-on-face though. disbelief

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Reply #72 posted 04/21/15 1:32pm

paulludvig

funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

I didn't catch that. What did it say about rerecordings?

The 'hacker' announced a new version of A 1000 Hugs and Kisses was going to be posted to the FB account. Confirmed to exist the next day by attendees at the Paisley Dance Party who said it was played that night.

Really? Where did you see that? I heard about Clouds remix, Rita Ora song and Revelation.

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Reply #73 posted 04/21/15 1:38pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I can't wait to hear Electric Outercourse and H-Spot.

Hemorrhoid? lol

lol If that were the case, he'd certainly have no trouble finding it.

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Reply #74 posted 04/21/15 2:14pm

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I respect Prince's perogative to do whatever he wants with his music but someday, one of these "Lucy pulling the football" business stunts is going to result in P geting his ass sued in a big and painful way.

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Reply #75 posted 04/21/15 4:04pm

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Those people who act as if there was a breach of contract because Prince has yet to deliver on the remasters when there was an announcement about it...

1. If you've been a Prince fan for any length of time, then you know he's no stranger to not doing the obvious commercial move.

2. Maybe take solace in the fact any censored remasters won't be released for now -- he's a JW now, it's his music and not much you cn do about it -- heavy case of be careful what you wish for, lest you get it.

3. While we have every right to think this music belongs to the world, it really belongs to him -- through his bad habits over the years, q uite a few tracks got released in okay quality and I'm afraid that's better than what you could expect from any new official remasters with Prince's imprimatur.

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Reply #76 posted 04/21/15 4:12pm

PurpleSkipper5
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Aerogram said:

Those people who act as if there was a breach of contract because Prince has yet to deliver on the remasters when there was an announcement about it...



1. If you've been a Prince fan for any length of time, then you know he's no stranger to not doing the obvious commercial move.


2. Maybe take solace in the fact any censored remasters won't be released for now -- he's a JW now, it's his music and not much you cn do about it -- heavy case of be careful what you wish for, lest you get it.


3. While we have every right to think this music belongs to the world, it really belongs to him -- through his bad habits over the years, q uite a few tracks got released in okay quality and I'm afraid that's better than what you could expect from any new official remasters with Prince's imprimatur.



Well said
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Reply #77 posted 04/21/15 4:17pm

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funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

I didn't catch that. What did it say about rerecordings?

The 'hacker' announced a new version of A 1000 Hugs and Kisses was going to be posted to the FB account. Confirmed to exist the next day by attendees at the Paisley Dance Party who said it was played that night.

Are you sure this is the case? Several of the attendees were asked in the Concert forum thread about the Dance Party whether they played a new version of 1000 Hugs and Kisses and none of them seemed to remember hearing it. Do you have a source for this?

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Reply #78 posted 04/21/15 4:21pm

funksterr

Aerogram said:

Those people who act as if there was a breach of contract because Prince has yet to deliver on the remasters when there was an announcement about it...

1. If you've been a Prince fan for any length of time, then you know he's no stranger to not doing the obvious commercial move.

2. Maybe take solace in the fact any censored remasters won't be released for now -- he's a JW now, it's his music and not much you cn do about it -- heavy case of be careful what you wish for, lest you get it.

3. While we have every right to think this music belongs to the world, it really belongs to him -- through his bad habits over the years, q uite a few tracks got released in okay quality and I'm afraid that's better than what you could expect from any new official remasters with Prince's imprimatur.


Not a Jehovah's Witness. He just uses the label whenever someone tries to cut a deal with him for real Prince music, which is too much pressure and doesn't leave him enough options to screw them over later if he feels slighted. He's made a comfortable living selling a watered down version of what he was, while holding on to the option to deliver the real deal if hard times force him into it.

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Reply #79 posted 04/21/15 5:34pm

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funksterr said:

Not a Jehovah's Witness. He just uses the label whenever someone tries to cut a deal with him for real Prince music, which is too much pressure and doesn't leave him enough options to screw them over later if he feels slighted. He's made a comfortable living selling a watered down version of what he was, while holding on to the option to deliver the real deal if hard times force him into it.

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The question is: By the time he's forced to do it, how many people will still be interested?! neutral

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #80 posted 04/21/15 6:05pm

SoulAlive

2funkE said:

I respect Prince's perogative to do whatever he wants with his music but someday, one of these "Lucy pulling the football" business stunts is going to result in P geting his ass sued in a big and painful way.





considering his track record,I'm surprised that record companies still choose to do business with him lol but you're right...one day he's gonna play this game one time too many,and wind up losing big in a lawsuit.
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Reply #81 posted 04/21/15 6:33pm

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funksterr said:



Aerogram said:


Those people who act as if there was a breach of contract because Prince has yet to deliver on the remasters when there was an announcement about it...



1. If you've been a Prince fan for any length of time, then you know he's no stranger to not doing the obvious commercial move.


2. Maybe take solace in the fact any censored remasters won't be released for now -- he's a JW now, it's his music and not much you cn do about it -- heavy case of be careful what you wish for, lest you get it.


3. While we have every right to think this music belongs to the world, it really belongs to him -- through his bad habits over the years, q uite a few tracks got released in okay quality and I'm afraid that's better than what you could expect from any new official remasters with Prince's imprimatur.





Not a Jehovah's Witness. He just uses the label whenever someone tries to cut a deal with him for real Prince music, which is too much pressure and doesn't leave him enough options to screw them over later if he feels slighted. He's made a comfortable living selling a watered down version of what he was, while holding on to the option to deliver the real deal if hard times force him into it.



And you know all this because you have definitive proof and not because you confuse your musings and best guesses with reality, right?
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Reply #82 posted 04/21/15 7:46pm

funksterr

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

funksterr said:

The 'hacker' announced a new version of A 1000 Hugs and Kisses was going to be posted to the FB account. Confirmed to exist the next day by attendees at the Paisley Dance Party who said it was played that night.

Are you sure this is the case? Several of the attendees were asked in the Concert forum thread about the Dance Party whether they played a new version of 1000 Hugs and Kisses and none of them seemed to remember hearing it. Do you have a source for this?

I could be wrong. I thought I read somewhere that it was played, but I could be wrong.

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Reply #83 posted 04/21/15 7:55pm

funksterr

Aerogram said:

funksterr said:


Not a Jehovah's Witness. He just uses the label whenever someone tries to cut a deal with him for real Prince music, which is too much pressure and doesn't leave him enough options to screw them over later if he feels slighted. He's made a comfortable living selling a watered down version of what he was, while holding on to the option to deliver the real deal if hard times force him into it.

And you know all this because you have definitive proof and not because you confuse your musings and best guesses with reality, right?


Really, dawg? You are asking for 'definitive' proof? What is your 'definitive' proof that he still IS a JW?

I say he doesn't follow the JW rules, so he isn't a JW. People around him have said it as well. I think he respects the faith and has incorporated some of their beliefs into his own, when backed into a corner he plays that JW card, but that's really about the extent of it.

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Reply #84 posted 04/22/15 12:55am

Pentacle

Aerogram said:

Those people who act as if there was a breach of contract because Prince has yet to deliver on the remasters when there was an announcement about it...

1. If you've been a Prince fan for any length of time, then you know he's no stranger to not doing the obvious commercial move.

2. Maybe take solace in the fact any censored remasters won't be released for now -- he's a JW now, it's his music and not much you cn do about it -- heavy case of be careful what you wish for, lest you get it.

3. While we have every right to think this music belongs to the world, it really belongs to him -- through his bad habits over the years, q uite a few tracks got released in okay quality and I'm afraid that's better than what you could expect from any new official remasters with Prince's imprimatur.


1. He's signed a contract.

2. He's signed a contract which I'm sure does not include 'you can give us censored versions'.

3. He's signed a contract. Remasters do not automatically mean bonus tracks, but this was also mentioned in the press release.


Signed, sealed, and not yet delivered.

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Reply #85 posted 04/22/15 3:52am

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Pentacle said:



Aerogram said:


Those people who act as if there was a breach of contract because Prince has yet to deliver on the remasters when there was an announcement about it...



1. If you've been a Prince fan for any length of time, then you know he's no stranger to not doing the obvious commercial move.


2. Maybe take solace in the fact any censored remasters won't be released for now -- he's a JW now, it's his music and not much you cn do about it -- heavy case of be careful what you wish for, lest you get it.


3. While we have every right to think this music belongs to the world, it really belongs to him -- through his bad habits over the years, q uite a few tracks got released in okay quality and I'm afraid that's better than what you could expect from any new official remasters with Prince's imprimatur.





1. He's signed a contract.


2. He's signed a contract which I'm sure does not include 'you can give us censored versions'.


3. He's signed a contract. Remasters do not automatically mean bonus tracks, but this was also mentioned in the press release.



Signed, sealed, and not yet delivered.



He has signed a contract with WB, not with his fans. Even if it's unlikely it authorized him to censor, I would not put it past him to decide that if those are his masters, then he can withold until he gets his wish. Withholding may be perfectly ok under the contract, we don't know.
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Reply #86 posted 04/22/15 4:00am

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funksterr said:



Aerogram said:


funksterr said:



Not a Jehovah's Witness. He just uses the label whenever someone tries to cut a deal with him for real Prince music, which is too much pressure and doesn't leave him enough options to screw them over later if he feels slighted. He's made a comfortable living selling a watered down version of what he was, while holding on to the option to deliver the real deal if hard times force him into it.



And you know all this because you have definitive proof and not because you confuse your musings and best guesses with reality, right?


Really, dawg? You are asking for 'definitive' proof? What is your 'definitive' proof that he still IS a JW?

I say he doesn't follow the JW rules, so he isn't a JW. People around him have said it as well. I think he respects the faith and has incorporated some of their beliefs into his own, when backed into a corner he plays that JW card, but that's really about the extent of it.



Thank you for clarifying it is what you think, not what you know.

As for me, I'm going by his association with the religion, including writing some hymns. Whether he fully joined is a different matter.
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Reply #87 posted 04/22/15 5:06am

funksterr

Aerogram said:

funksterr said:


Really, dawg? You are asking for 'definitive' proof? What is your 'definitive' proof that he still IS a JW?

I say he doesn't follow the JW rules, so he isn't a JW. People around him have said it as well. I think he respects the faith and has incorporated some of their beliefs into his own, when backed into a corner he plays that JW card, but that's really about the extent of it.

Thank you for clarifying it is what you think, not what you know. As for me, I'm going by his association with the religion, including writing some hymns. Whether he fully joined is a different matter.

???????????? falloff How the hell can one be a member of something without joining it? Prince, at best, was close to a couple of JW members. AT BEST. Yet he tells reporters he is a member, when it suits his needs. He apparentley said something similar to Warners and probably LiveNation as well if you go by the 'changed man' wording of some of the statements that came out last year. Prince's choice in fashion and tumultuous dealings with women, do not fit well into the practice of the Jehovah's Witness faith. Even if he was a member, he'd likely be thrown out for non-compliance.

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Reply #88 posted 04/22/15 5:58am

lwr001

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LittlePurpleYoda said:

Sorry? A project that was long hoped for by many fans, hyped as part of his deal with WB & for which we received no news about for months on end? Of course people are going to be disappointed & they have every right.

I hope WB does whatever they can to make things difficult for him legally.

I also hope they do that and I think they will

why do people assume inaccurately that there is any breach of contract? There is not

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Reply #89 posted 04/22/15 5:59am

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Just to answer one of these posters, a 1000 hugs and kisses was played before Christmas at paisley park. A reworked version does exist, don't know if it was played the other night though.
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