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Thread started 02/04/12 10:30am

355mr2

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How Come Prince Never Did SoulTrain?????

i never understood why Prince was the only black superstar singer to never do SoulTrain? But he did Americain Bandstand??????????? The Time and Vanity6 did SoulTrain!!! how come Prince didnt want to connect to his own people?????

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Reply #1 posted 02/04/12 10:34am

rdhull

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He did do Soul Train

after

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #2 posted 02/04/12 10:34am

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He did do Soul Train. http://www.princevault.co...pril,_1994

The "performance" is in circulation.

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Reply #3 posted 02/04/12 10:41am

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He did appear on the show but not as PRINCE nor with Don as the host. He was in his " symbol " stage of career but unfortunately we can't turn back time. It would have been nice to see him either early or right around the peak years on the show.
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Reply #4 posted 02/04/12 10:47am

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he did solid gold twice in 1982/83 ish

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Reply #5 posted 02/04/12 10:50am

355mr2

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oh ok i never knew that!!! but yeah it would have been kool if he was on there when he first came out, but thanks for schoolin me!!!!

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Reply #6 posted 02/04/12 10:58am

alexnvrmnd777

355mr2 said:

oh ok i never knew that!!! but yeah it would have been kool if he was on there when he first came out, but thanks for schoolin me!!!!

You couldn't have done a Google search before making this thread?

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Reply #7 posted 02/04/12 11:00am

Timmy84

355mr2 said:

oh ok i never knew that!!! but yeah it would have been kool if he was on there when he first came out, but thanks for schoolin me!!!!

He was on the show in 1994 with Mayte.

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Reply #8 posted 02/04/12 11:10am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

355mr2 said:

oh ok i never knew that!!! but yeah it would have been kool if he was on there when he first came out, but thanks for schoolin me!!!!

You couldn't have done a Google search before making this thread?

lol

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Reply #9 posted 02/04/12 12:05pm

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The question was a valid one. Soul Train without Don Cornelius was not the same show. It was a different show with the same hame.

Don Cornelius always creeped me out as a kid....maybe Prince was creeped out too and wanted nothing to do with it.

Or more likely, he didn't consider himself a "black" act, so didn't want to be on that show if it would diminish his crossover appeal.

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Reply #10 posted 02/04/12 1:34pm

jonylawson

soul train?

next time we need a big white sign that says....................

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Reply #11 posted 02/04/12 3:19pm

G3000

FunkiestOne said:

The question was a valid one. Soul Train without Don Cornelius was not the same show. It was a different show with the same hame.

Don Cornelius always creeped me out as a kid....maybe Prince was creeped out too and wanted nothing to do with it.

Or more likely, he didn't consider himself a "black" act, so didn't want to be on that show if it would diminish his crossover appeal.

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That and Don wanted to keep Soul Train a "family" type show. Can you imagine the "mandatory" interview with Don and Prince circa 1980?!! eek

Look what Prince did to Dick Clark?? Prince would have been eye to Don's waistline. lol

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Reply #12 posted 02/04/12 4:16pm

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Probably because in the pre 1990 period he was trying to cross over and felt that black music limited him ("Black people only play one kind of music"), and soul train did play 99% black music. Also I think by the time he was playing shows he was a huge cross over star.

I think he probably thought there was more to his music than just dancing to it and having a good time. By 1994 Prince had gained back most of his "Kunta Konsciousness" and he was more aggressively catching his black fans (The white sounding music ended in 1988).

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Reply #13 posted 02/04/12 4:40pm

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FunkiestOne said:

Or more likely, he didn't consider himself a "black" act, so didn't want to be on that show if it would diminish his crossover appeal.

YEp, pretty much.

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Reply #14 posted 02/04/12 4:42pm

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He should have went on in 1981 and did Annie Christian lol

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Reply #15 posted 02/04/12 4:45pm

jpnyc

Adorecream said:

By 1994 Prince had gained back most of his "Kunta Konsciousness" and he was more aggressively catching his black fans (The white sounding music ended in 1988).

Is that a quote from The Ron Paul Report?

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Reply #16 posted 02/04/12 4:57pm

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nevermind soul train. why didn't he do blue peter??

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Reply #17 posted 02/04/12 6:37pm

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Adorecream said:

Probably because in the pre 1990 period he was trying to cross over and felt that black music limited him ("Black people only play one kind of music"), and soul train did play 99% black music. Also I think by the time he was playing shows he was a huge cross over star.

I think he probably thought there was more to his music than just dancing to it and having a good time. By 1994 Prince had gained back most of his "Kunta Konsciousness" and he was more aggressively catching his black fans (The white sounding music ended in 1988).

LMAO @ Kunta Konsciosness lol

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Reply #18 posted 02/04/12 7:22pm

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rdhull said:

He should have went on in 1981 and did Annie Christian lol

Talk about PUB! I can't even imagine the flack he'd have gotten from THAT performance!

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Reply #19 posted 02/04/12 7:31pm

SoulAlive

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He should have went on in 1981 and did Annie Christian lol

Nah,I think he should have done "Controversy" and "Private Joy".The crowd would have went wild!

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Reply #20 posted 02/04/12 7:45pm

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rdhull said:

He should have went on in 1981 and did Annie Christian lol

Nah,I think he should have done "Controversy" and "Private Joy".The crowd would have went wild!

Controversy and Let's Work would've been a better pair of songs to perform than Controversy and Private Joy, IMO.

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Reply #21 posted 02/04/12 8:37pm

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I thought you had to be invited to perform on Soul Train. Maybe Don Cornelius saw P on Bandstand and thought he was too wild or something like that?

The original version of Parliament/Funkadelic never played on Soul Train, either supposedly because Don Cornelius didn't like that Garry Shider (P-Funk guitarist) wore a diaper onstage.

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Reply #22 posted 02/04/12 9:27pm

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He only finally did Soul Train when he was a "slave" in 1994. If he had never been "enslaved" and subsequently felt abandoned by white people he never would have performed on that awesome show.

And Don Cornelius played Prince's music several times during the broadcasts in the 80s, so I doubt he would have declined any offer for Prince to be a guest back then. It was Prince himself who didn't want to do it when he was young and new.

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Reply #23 posted 02/04/12 9:55pm

Timmy84

Apparently Don DID invite him and he didn't accept at the time... I can believe that story that he felt Soul Train "only played one type of genre" but that in of itself is inaccurate because ST did have crossover acts like Ike & Tina Turner, Little Richard and Chuck Berry on their show so it ain't like having Prince on there would've been a wild thing. Parliament-Funkadelic had a wilder image.

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Reply #24 posted 02/04/12 11:45pm

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I had the great fortune to talk to Don Cornelius a couple years ago. I asked why they didnt have prince on soul train back in the day. His reply was after prince pulled that stunt on american bandstand, they didnt want to book him. so he didnt do it out of fear that prince would do the whole dont talk thing. He went further to say that it was a mistake not to have him on.

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Reply #25 posted 02/05/12 12:27am

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funkycomic said:

I had the great fortune to talk to Don Cornelius a couple years ago. I asked why they didnt have prince on soul train back in the day. His reply was after prince pulled that stunt on american bandstand, they didnt want to book him. so he didnt do it out of fear that prince would do the whole dont talk thing. He went further to say that it was a mistake not to have him on.

Ah I see! Makes sense. Someone did say in the RIP Don thread that Don may have been upset at what he did on American Bandstand so he didn't have him on.

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Reply #26 posted 02/05/12 5:51am

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well i could have seen Prince singing soft n wet or i wanna be your lover, i talking about when he first came out, like most r&b artist did. they went on soul train to get exposer to let the world know there out. as we all know the first couple of Prince albums did not do well in sales, so Soultrain would have been a big help in his early career. im sure Don wanted him on , Prince wasnt that wild until DirtyMind. thats when he got the crossover. but Rick James was on there being wild& crazy!!!!! did anyone see that one? and to the people who said WHITE MUSIC? there is no such thing, blacks invented ROCK N ROLL !!!!

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Reply #27 posted 02/05/12 6:47am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

SoulAlive said:

Nah,I think he should have done "Controversy" and "Private Joy".The crowd would have went wild!

Controversy and Let's Work would've been a better pair of songs to perform than Controversy and Private Joy, IMO.

Annie would have had the brothas giving him the Rolling Stones audience treatment lol

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Reply #28 posted 02/05/12 6:50am

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funkycomic said:

I had the great fortune to talk to Don Cornelius a couple years ago. I asked why they didnt have prince on soul train back in the day. His reply was after prince pulled that stunt on american bandstand, they didnt want to book him. so he didnt do it out of fear that prince would do the whole dont talk thing. He went further to say that it was a mistake not to have him on.

so folks can now stop with that "kunta konsciousness" mess that's always been a bone of contention for some fans...although its a funny ass term lol

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Reply #29 posted 02/05/12 7:45am

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Well, he may not have been on it himself till 1994, but both The Time and Vanity 6 were, so at least his songs got on there. lol

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