SodaShoes said:

rdhull said:

do people actually put on Prince music when they are doing it?

In my life I certainly have. I wonder if I'll continue to.

It seems cartoonish to do so

rdhull said:

SodaShoes said:

In my life I certainly have. I wonder if I'll continue to.

It seems cartoonish to do so

I don't know what you mean by cartoonish.

You state that it's morally wrong for a man of 53 to have a love relationship with a women in her early twenties.

Because of those lack of morals (according to your standard) he can't be spiritual. Because to you morality and spirituality are related to eachother.

Therefore, Prince his spirituality is not valid to you anymore. And neither is his music?

While you want him to behave exactly according your private morally and spiritually standards, he's living according to his own values.

I think your dissapointment doesn't have to do anything with you being so morally and spiritual pure as opposed to Prince.

I think you are dissapointed that he is (allthough nobody knows this for sure) in love with Andy Allo in stead of you. I think that you are jalous and see your own secret phantasy about Prince getting shattered. And that hurts. In stead of facing reality and your pain, you convinced yourself of being morally pure and Prince not.

Why do you suddenly feel that Prince has dissapointed you now, for being with a young girl? You never had that reaction when he allegedly physically abused Jill Jones and Sinead O'Connor. Nor the stories of ex-employees that he didn't treat them right. That didn't seem to withold you from questioning Prince his highly ethical spiritual ideas, now did that?

So, why is his alleged relationship with Andy is?

SodaShoes said:

rdhull said:

It seems cartoonish to do so

I don't know what you mean by cartoonish.

Like when folks on sitocms and such put on Barry White to "get sexy"

maybe corny instead of cartoonish is what I meant..but cartoonish fits what with his Mae West type of sexuality on wax etc

Prince probably won't like this conversation. I don't care if he likes it or not, but he has a warning from an older fan...

That I as one person will look at him and say, "I love you, but I don't trust you anymore."

rdhull said:

Nobody had an issue with Lisa being with Wendy and their 4-5 year age difference back in their youth.

4 TO 5 years, this is more like forty-five.

SodaShoes said:

Maybe this topic is too deep for you to engage in.

Deep like a puddle.

SodaShoes said:

Prince probably won't like this conversation. I don't care if he likes it or not, but he has a warning from an older fan...

That I as one person will look at him and say, "I love you, but I don't trust you anymore."

Why should Price care about that?

rdhull said:

SodaShoes said:

I don't know what you mean by cartoonish.

Like when folks on sitocms and such put on Barry White to "get sexy"

maybe corny instead of cartoonish is what I meant..but cartoonish fits what with his Mae West type of sexuality on wax etc

Try it with "Crystal Ball" sometime.

dJJ said:

You state that it's morally wrong for a man of 53 to have a love relationship with a women in her early twenties.

Because of those lack of morals (according to your standard) he can't be spiritual. Because to you morality and spirituality are related to eachother.

Therefore, Prince his spirituality is not valid to you anymore. And neither is his music?

While you want him to behave exactly according your private morally and spiritually standards, he's living according to his own values.

I think your dissapointment doesn't have to do anything with you being so morally and spiritual pure as opposed to Prince.

I think you are dissapointed that he is (allthough nobody knows this for sure) in love with Andy Allo in stead of you. I think that you are jalous and see your own secret phantasy about Prince getting shattered. And that hurts. In stead of facing reality and your pain, you convinced yourself of being morally pure and Prince not.

Why do you suddenly feel that Prince has dissapointed you now, for being with a young girl? You never had that reaction when he allegedly physically abused Jill Jones and Sinead O'Connor. Nor the stories of ex-employees that he didn't treat them right. That didn't seem to withold you from questioning Prince his highly ethical spiritual ideas, now did that?

So, why is his alleged relationship with Andy is?

I don't believe that Prince is in love with Andy Allo...If Prince was going to shatter my heart, he could only do it with an older woman.

People can twist things any way they want to to make themselves comfortable in their thinking.

Sometimes putting spiritual discipline on doesn't feel that good. I'm not a perfect person and I don't expect anyone to be like Jesus. As we strive toward being more purified people we have to get rid of some things.

And this is everyday, even if it's just one thought that needs to be removed.

I'm not Prince's final judge, I'm just a friend.

dJJ said:

SodaShoes said:

Prince probably won't like this conversation. I don't care if he likes it or not, but he has a warning from an older fan...

That I as one person will look at him and say, "I love you, but I don't trust you anymore."

Why should Price care about that?

Beause Prince is a business man, and market research is a thought in his mind.

NouveauDance said:

rdhull said:

Nobody had an issue with Lisa being with Wendy and their 4-5 year age difference back in their youth.

4 TO 5 years, this is more like forty-five.

I said back in the day. Lisa was still an adult at 19/20 and Wendy must have been what? 15? lol..but we will overlook all that.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Like when folks on sitocms and such put on Barry White to "get sexy"

maybe corny instead of cartoonish is what I meant..but cartoonish fits what with his Mae West type of sexuality on wax etc

Try it with "Crystal Ball" sometime.

No thanks! Plus Im much more spontaneous than to do the dim lights put on music steez lol

rdhull said:

NouveauDance said:

4 TO 5 years, this is more like forty-five.

I said back in the day. Lisa was still an adult at 19/20 and Wendy must have been what? 15? lol..but we will overlook all that.

NouveauDance said:

rdhull said:

I said back in the day. Lisa was still an adult at 19/20 and Wendy must have been what? 15? lol..but we will overlook all that.

hey Im just sayin..if it were a a dude who was 19/20 and a girl at 15....

rdhull said:

electricberet said:

Try it with "Crystal Ball" sometime.

No thanks! Plus Im much more spontaneous than to do the dim lights put on music steez lol

I'm guessing you aren't married? I remember being spontaneous when I was single. Now...not so much. Prince music has fewer side effects than Cialis.

[Edited 10/1/11 12:36pm]

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

No thanks! Plus Im much more spontaneous than to do the dim lights put on music steez lol

I'm guessing you aren't married?

I "am" married..but Ive always been like that. I never was one for the corny dramatic turn the lights down low put on a record (once..but I was 19 lol). Its always been all of a sudden we're getting down..never needed "mood music" "mood setting"

[Edited 10/1/11 12:38pm]

rdhull said:

electricberet said:

I'm guessing you aren't married?

yup..but Ive always been like that. I never was one for the corny dramatic turn the lights down low put on a record (once..but I was 19 lol). Its always been all of a sudden we're getting down..never needed "mood music" "mood setting"

Lucky you.

When and if Prince ever gets married to one woman, and he has to forsake all others because that is the rule.

There's no room for getting away with having sex on records. To Prince that must seem like a prison from wide open creativity. That is where money doesn't matter and the delicate nature of a person's lifestyle does matter in a relationship. For true happiness it does.

Just because Prince is Prince doesn't mean that when he sings, "You've got to bend in the wind but don't break to keep your man." is clearly understandable.

Not everything Prince says, goes.

SodaShoes said:

dJJ said:

You state that it's morally wrong for a man of 53 to have a love relationship with a women in her early twenties.

Because of those lack of morals (according to your standard) he can't be spiritual. Because to you morality and spirituality are related to eachother.

Therefore, Prince his spirituality is not valid to you anymore. And neither is his music?

While you want him to behave exactly according your private morally and spiritually standards, he's living according to his own values.

I think your dissapointment doesn't have to do anything with you being so morally and spiritual pure as opposed to Prince.

I think you are dissapointed that he is (allthough nobody knows this for sure) in love with Andy Allo in stead of you. I think that you are jalous and see your own secret phantasy about Prince getting shattered. And that hurts. In stead of facing reality and your pain, you convinced yourself of being morally pure and Prince not.

Why do you suddenly feel that Prince has dissapointed you now, for being with a young girl? You never had that reaction when he allegedly physically abused Jill Jones and Sinead O'Connor. Nor the stories of ex-employees that he didn't treat them right. That didn't seem to withold you from questioning Prince his highly ethical spiritual ideas, now did that?

So, why is his alleged relationship with Andy is?

I don't believe that Prince is in love with Andy Allo...If Prince was going to shatter my heart, he could only do it with an older woman.

People can twist things any way they want to to make themselves comfortable in their thinking.

Sometimes putting spiritual discipline on doesn't feel that good. I'm not a perfect person and I don't expect anyone to be like Jesus. As we strive toward being more purified people we have to get rid of some things.

And this is everyday, even if it's just one thought that needs to be removed.

I'm not Prince's final judge, I'm just a friend.

And you think that Prince does that?

What about yourself? Do you think you'r making yourself comfortable by condemning Prince for being with a young girl instead of feeling your own dissapointment and reality of never being with him?

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

yup..but Ive always been like that. I never was one for the corny dramatic turn the lights down low put on a record (once..but I was 19 lol). Its always been all of a sudden we're getting down..never needed "mood music" "mood setting"

Lucky you.

Something funny just crossed my mind...I haven't done this but I'd like to...

If I was married I'd love to have sex on a gigantic speaker in the middle of the woods.

You guys aren't my type.

SodaShoes said:

electricberet said:

Lucky you.

Something funny just crossed my mind...I haven't done this but I'd like to...

If I was married I'd love to have sex on a gigantic speaker in the middle of the woods.

You guys aren't my type.

This is turning into a GD thread.

A topic that could go on and on is the intimate conversations that must go on between musicians and their spouses.

Let's face the truth here...Does anyone think that Prince is going to have sex with a woman to an Eric Benet record? I don't.

But I could...cause it doesn't hurt me. I'm not sexually attracted to Eric Benet and never was because I've loved Prince for years.

The point is that people are emotional and sexuality comes from the mind and the heart. Sometimes adjustments have to be made to comfort the mind of your spouse. For the sake of romance.

I personally feel that it shows a lack of maturity when you can only date [marry], & flirt with women that are young enough to be your daughter [or grand daughter], but hey, that's just me . I will admit that it is funny reading people's comments trying to defend Prince....for no reason as usual.

electricberet said:

SodaShoes said:

Something funny just crossed my mind...I haven't done this but I'd like to...

If I was married I'd love to have sex on a gigantic speaker in the middle of the woods.

You guys aren't my type.

This is turning into a GD thread.

No, this topic is about morality in the heart of the musician we support and then some.

dJJ said:

SodaShoes said:

I don't believe that Prince is in love with Andy Allo...If Prince was going to shatter my heart, he could only do it with an older woman.

People can twist things any way they want to to make themselves comfortable in their thinking.

Sometimes putting spiritual discipline on doesn't feel that good. I'm not a perfect person and I don't expect anyone to be like Jesus. As we strive toward being more purified people we have to get rid of some things.

And this is everyday, even if it's just one thought that needs to be removed.

I'm not Prince's final judge, I'm just a friend.

And you think that Prince does that?

What about yourself? Do you think you'r making yourself comfortable by condemning Prince for being with a young girl instead of feeling your own dissapointment and reality of never being with him?

I'm not condemning Prince. I'm pointing out only my feelings toward his business associates where sexual music and a sexual relationship could be implied.

SodaShoes said:

electricberet said:

Lucky you.

Something funny just crossed my mind...I haven't done this but I'd like to...

If I was married I'd love to have sex on a gigantic speaker in the middle of the woods.

You guys aren't my type.

actually my hx with humping, speakers..oh nevermind

SodaShoes said:

dJJ said:

And you think that Prince does that?

What about yourself? Do you think you'r making yourself comfortable by condemning Prince for being with a young girl instead of feeling your own dissapointment and reality of never being with him?

I'm not condemning Prince. I'm pointing out only my feelings toward his business associates where sexual music and a sexual relationship could be implied.

And I'm not defending him. I'm challenging your motivation and reasoning behind these kind of threads.

Tittypants said:

I personally feel that it shows a lack of maturity when you can only date [marry], & flirt with women that are young enough to be your daughter [or grand daughter], but hey, that's just me . I will admit that it is funny reading people's comments trying to defend Prince....for no reason as usual.

There are men that stay clear of the problems it causes with the women in their appropriate age group.

It's almost like you put up a barrier in your mind and you don't allow the thoughts to creep up on you.

I can't even fathom having sex with a man or boy, 30 years younger than I am. Even if it were just in my mind...I'm not gonna do it.

dJJ said:

SodaShoes said:

I'm not condemning Prince. I'm pointing out only my feelings toward his business associates where sexual music and a sexual relationship could be implied.

And I'm not defending him. I'm challenging your motivation and reasoning behind these kind of threads.

I would love to be married with Prince, what difference does that make, I'm one of thousands.

Tittypants said:

I personally feel that it shows a lack of maturity when you can only date [marry], & flirt with women that are young enough to be your daughter [or grand daughter], but hey, that's just me . I will admit that it is funny reading people's comments trying to defend Prince....for no reason as usual.

When you read the biogs, books and interviews with past lays a pattern emerges of younger, often 'barely legal' girls who are encouraged not to voice their own opinions or express their personalities, and basically dress, act and say whatever Prince wants them to - that is if they can talk at all, and not just smile meekly and stand there in a camisole.

Not sure Andy fits that role, only seen her once on that French TV show, but with all Prince band members, male or female - he's the boss, so any image or presence they have is largely there as a creation or a reflection of his.

It doesn't take Freud to psychoanalyse this, but I'm not going there, I've already said enough for the pitchfolks to come out.