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Prince article in Bitch magazine

Hear this, folks. Bitch magazine is singing the praises of Prince. Well, sort of, anyway.

http://www.bitchmagazine.org/

Their website doesn't link to the piece as far as I can see, but the current issue, "The Genesis Issue" features a 5-page article discussing Prince's kinda-sorta status as one of the only male rockstars that can be said with any level of seriousness to have a feminist slant. They do of course address his inconsistencies and hypocrisies, as they should, but the article is more or less pro-purple.

I highly recommend the read, for any Prince fan male or female, but especially those who like to delve a little deeper into the man's career than commenting on how cute his ass is.
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Reply #1 posted 06/25/08 11:07pm

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Mods: Can we get some kind of notice on the front page for this? Pretty please? batting eyes
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Reply #2 posted 06/25/08 11:09pm

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meow85 said:

Here this, folks. Bitch magazine is singing the praises of Prince. Well, sort of, anyway.

http://www.bitchmagazine.org/

Their website doesn't link to the piece as far as I can see, but the current issue, "The Genesis Issue" features a 5-page article discussing Prince's kinda-sorta status as one of the only male rockstars that can be said with any level of seriousness to have a feminist slant. They do of course address his inconsistencies and hypocrisies, as they should, but the article is more or less pro-purple.

I highly recommend the read, for any Prince fan male or female, but especially those who like to delve a little deeper into the man's career than commenting on how cute his ass is.

lol lol
Almost make it sound like a bad thing.

That's a very interesting topic though, any chance of a scan?
I've never heard of this magazine before, I wish I had, though...
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Reply #3 posted 06/25/08 11:13pm

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ToraToraDreams said:

meow85 said:

Here this, folks. Bitch magazine is singing the praises of Prince. Well, sort of, anyway.

http://www.bitchmagazine.org/

Their website doesn't link to the piece as far as I can see, but the current issue, "The Genesis Issue" features a 5-page article discussing Prince's kinda-sorta status as one of the only male rockstars that can be said with any level of seriousness to have a feminist slant. They do of course address his inconsistencies and hypocrisies, as they should, but the article is more or less pro-purple.

I highly recommend the read, for any Prince fan male or female, but especially those who like to delve a little deeper into the man's career than commenting on how cute his ass is.

lol lol
Almost make it sound like a bad thing.

That's a very interesting topic though, any chance of a scan?
I've never heard of this magazine before, I wish I had, though...
[Edited 6/25/08 23:10pm]


My scanner's a bit gimp, but I'm trying to get it to work as I type. thumbs up!
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/08 12:33am

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And here we are:



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Reply #5 posted 06/26/08 12:34am

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Reply #7 posted 06/26/08 12:36am

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One of the interesting features of this article to me is that it's written by a man.



Sorry about the quality of some of those scans, but it's the best I can do with my crappy machines.
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/08 12:44am

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Never heard of this mag.
Thanks for posting it though.

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Reply #9 posted 06/26/08 12:52am

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I don't think it's complimentary to Prince, and something tells me he wouldn't either. confused You must not have read Prince's article in Giant magazine, his views on women HAVE changed of late.
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/08 1:07am

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That was a pretty good read. The artwork is great too.

I thought they might've ripped into TRC a little bit more, all the 'theocratic order' stuff for starters.
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Dayclear said:

I don't think it's complimentary to Prince, and something tells me he wouldn't either. confused You must not have read Prince's article in Guitar magazine, his views on women HAVE changed of late.

I haven't read the article, but I am aware of his recent, and rather unfortunate, change of tune. The writer of this article and, I'm assuming, the magazine is as well.

I'm curious though, why don't you think this would be complimentary? I read the entire article a few times today, and I think it comes off more positively than anything else, in spite of the rightly deserved criticisms.
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Reply #12 posted 06/26/08 1:51am

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NouveauDance said:

That was a pretty good read. The artwork is great too.

I thought they might've ripped into TRC a little bit more, all the 'theocratic order' stuff for starters.

I would've thought so, but at least it was mentioned.
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Reply #13 posted 06/26/08 4:38am

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meow85 said:

Dayclear said:

I don't think it's complimentary to Prince, and something tells me he wouldn't either. confused You must not have read Prince's article in Guitar magazine, his views on women HAVE changed of late.

I haven't read the article, but I am aware of his recent, and rather unfortunate, change of tune. The writer of this article and, I'm assuming, the magazine is as well.

I'm curious though, why don't you think this would be complimentary? I read the entire article a few times today, and I think it comes off more positively than anything else, in spite of the rightly deserved criticisms.

My mistake the magazine is called 'Giant', the august/september 2007 issue. Where Prince sounds Very chauvanistic to me saying As men we're supposed to be humble. The ones that can't admit that are the ones that fall because they're caught up in worldly things like WOMEN, SEX and drugs. The bible is like the guidebook to help men and women with their sins. If I'm going to get some advice, wouldn't I want it from Solomon? That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women!
Now that does not sound like the statement of a man that understands women. He called us 'WORLDLY THINGS' eek
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Reply #14 posted 06/26/08 4:44am

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I have never heard of this magazine, and I am sure the article is somewhat interesting to read...however, I do not believe that Prince is a feminist...I believe that Prince appreciates women and their career endeavors, although I do believe that Prince would prefer to have a wife at home that cares for him and his household, while he went out to earn the bread.

I believe in most cases, not all, that structured society, depends on these roles.

I am all for single women making as much money as men in the same positions, and I definitely believe woman are equally talented...However, I also believe that women are more suited for raising children, and caring for a household and a man, than the other way around. In a family structure, where a man and a woman are married...Outside of that concept...either a man or a woman is capable of either role.

I am not a feminist. I believe in equality between the sexes...although I believe that between two people...it is apparent, which position belongs to whom.
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Reply #15 posted 06/26/08 4:53am

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Dayclear said:

meow85 said:


I haven't read the article, but I am aware of his recent, and rather unfortunate, change of tune. The writer of this article and, I'm assuming, the magazine is as well.

I'm curious though, why don't you think this would be complimentary? I read the entire article a few times today, and I think it comes off more positively than anything else, in spite of the rightly deserved criticisms.

My mistake the magazine is called 'Giant', the august/september 2007 issue. Where Prince sounds Very chauvanistic to me saying As men we're supposed to be humble. The ones that can't admit that are the ones that fall because they're caught up in worldly things like WOMEN, SEX and drugs. The bible is like the guidebook to help men and women with their sins. If I'm going to get some advice, wouldn't I want it from Solomon? That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women!
Now that does not sound like the statement of a man that understands women. He called us 'WORLDLY THINGS' eek
[Edited 6/26/08 4:40am]


I think youve misinterpreted 'worldly things' in the context of that quote prince is referring to lusts and desires of the flesh as opposed to things of the spirit. Using the word women merely represents sex in general as being a worldly part of mankind. Prince has indicated that he has an interest in the psyche of women, why wouldnt he want to talk to soloman. The idea being any man who had so many wives must have learned something about them.

I dont see how that statement was chauvanistic. he is talking as a man about mankind. Unless of course you find the term man to be chauvanistic and perhps he should have said 'peoplekind'.
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Reply #16 posted 06/26/08 6:01am

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I really loved reading that, thanks! smile
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Reply #17 posted 06/26/08 6:18am

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the typography looks interesting in that mag shame they drew him with flat boots tho!!
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Reply #18 posted 06/26/08 7:16am

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meow85 said:

Mods: Can we get some kind of notice on the front page for this? Pretty please? batting eyes


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Reply #19 posted 06/26/08 7:31am

applekisses

Our very own SNAKEPEEL wrote that! woot!

I'm so, so proud of him. Thanks, you guys, for posting this. I'm going to send him the URL to the thread. He's going to be thrilled.
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Reply #20 posted 06/26/08 7:35am

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applekisses said:

Our very own SNAKEPEEL wrote that! woot!

I'm so, so proud of him. Thanks, you guys, for posting this. I'm going to send him the URL to the thread. He's going to be thrilled.


OMG, really Congrats, SnakePeel clapping clapping

I saw "Bitch Magazine" in Borders the other day when I was looking for Jet Magazine. lol I chuckled when I saw it, but didn't pick it up to leaf through it.
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Reply #21 posted 06/26/08 7:43am

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applekisses said:

Our very own SNAKEPEEL wrote that! woot!

I'm so, so proud of him. Thanks, you guys, for posting this. I'm going to send him the URL to the thread. He's going to be thrilled.


That's awesome! I would credit Snakey on the front page, but I don't want to compromise anyone's Orgnonymity. lol
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Reply #22 posted 06/26/08 7:48am

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The drawing of Prince is pretty cool too. Is anybody else having trouble reading what's written in the balloon thingies, or is it just me? lol
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Reply #23 posted 06/26/08 7:50am

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Anxiety said:

applekisses said:

Our very own SNAKEPEEL wrote that! woot!

I'm so, so proud of him. Thanks, you guys, for posting this. I'm going to send him the URL to the thread. He's going to be thrilled.


That's awesome! I would credit Snakey on the front page, but I don't want to compromise anyone's Orgnonymity. lol



Sigh...g'head. Considering Apples outed me wink.
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Reply #24 posted 06/26/08 7:57am

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SnakePeel said:

Anxiety said:



That's awesome! I would credit Snakey on the front page, but I don't want to compromise anyone's Orgnonymity. lol



Sigh...g'head. Considering Apples outed me wink.


hug Congrats!!!!!
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Reply #25 posted 06/26/08 8:11am

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Anxiety said:



That's awesome! I would credit Snakey on the front page, but I don't want to compromise anyone's Orgnonymity. lol



Sigh...g'head. Considering Apples outed me wink.


done deal! biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 06/26/08 8:15am

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Anxiety said:



That's awesome! I would credit Snakey on the front page, but I don't want to compromise anyone's Orgnonymity. lol



Sigh...g'head. Considering Apples outed me wink.



giggle Sorreeey! I'm just proud of you dorkwad!
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Reply #27 posted 06/26/08 8:35am

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applekisses said:

SnakePeel said:




Sigh...g'head. Considering Apples outed me wink.



giggle Sorreeey! I'm just proud of you dorkwad!


Me too. biggrin
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Reply #28 posted 06/26/08 8:36am

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Interesting that there is NO mention of the fact that his bands have always featured women in prominent roles...

Gayle
Lisa
Wendy
Sheila
Cat
Boni
Rosie
Rhonda
Cora

How many male-fronted bands in Rock, Funk, etc., have had a female drummer?
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Reply #29 posted 06/26/08 8:37am

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syble said:

Dayclear said:


My mistake the magazine is called 'Giant', the august/september 2007 issue. Where Prince sounds Very chauvanistic to me saying As men we're supposed to be humble. The ones that can't admit that are the ones that fall because they're caught up in worldly things like WOMEN, SEX and drugs. The bible is like the guidebook to help men and women with their sins. If I'm going to get some advice, wouldn't I want it from Solomon? That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women!
Now that does not sound like the statement of a man that understands women. He called us 'WORLDLY THINGS' eek
[Edited 6/26/08 4:40am]


I think youve misinterpreted 'worldly things' in the context of that quote prince is referring to lusts and desires of the flesh as opposed to things of the spirit. Using the word women merely represents sex in general as being a worldly part of mankind. Prince has indicated that he has an interest in the psyche of women, why wouldnt he want to talk to soloman. The idea being any man who had so many wives must have learned something about them.

I dont see how that statement was chauvanistic. he is talking as a man about mankind. Unless of course you find the term man to be chauvanistic and perhps he should have said 'peoplekind'.


I was about to say that. Good thing I read your post before repeating everything you said.
Women! Stop being sooooo sensitive and read between the lines.
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