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Reply #90 posted 06/03/07 9:58pm

Serena

sosgemini said:

Serena said:




Aren't those two posts a bit contradictory? Aren't you judging him in your second statement?



that last sentence is for the fans...


I'm talking about this sentence: how about not giving a damn and making music for the craft versus the economics?
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Reply #91 posted 06/03/07 10:03pm

sosgemini

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Serena said:

sosgemini said:




that last sentence is for the fans...


I'm talking about this sentence: how about not giving a damn and making music for the craft versus the economics?


no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.
Space for sale...
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Reply #92 posted 06/03/07 10:05pm

mirrorbestfrie
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sosgemini said:

Serena said:



I'm talking about this sentence: how about not giving a damn and making music for the craft versus the economics?


no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.

exactly prince is rich he is just being greedy now
music should never mix with business
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Reply #93 posted 06/03/07 10:09pm

theodore

mirrorbestfriend said:

sosgemini said:



no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.

exactly prince is rich he is just being greedy now
music should never mix with business


eek
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Reply #94 posted 06/03/07 10:16pm

NuPwr319

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mirrorbestfriend said:

sosgemini said:



no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.

exactly prince is rich he is just being greedy now
music should never mix with business


eek If music should NEVER mix with business, how are we (I'm a musician) supposed to make a living? I shouldn't want to get paid doing what I love? confuse I think you underestimate P's "riches". He's at a point now where he's got MAJOR bills to pay. He's working to make a living and to pay the folks on his payroll. Is he just supposed to fire everybody, shut down PP and retire? And just play at coffee houses for free? Is that what you're trying to say?
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Reply #95 posted 06/03/07 10:17pm

theodore

NuPwr319 said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


exactly prince is rich he is just being greedy now
music should never mix with business


eek If music should NEVER mix with business, how are we (I'm a musician) supposed to make a living? I shouldn't want to get paid doing what I love? confuse I think you underestimate P's "riches". He's at a point now where he's got MAJOR bills to pay. He's working to make a living and to pay the folks on his payroll. Is he just supposed to fire everybody, shut down PP and retire? And just play at coffee houses for free? Is that what you're trying to say?


Agree
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Reply #96 posted 06/03/07 10:22pm

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NuPwr319 said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


exactly prince is rich he is just being greedy now
music should never mix with business


eek If music should NEVER mix with business, how are we (I'm a musician) supposed to make a living? I shouldn't want to get paid doing what I love? confuse I think you underestimate P's "riches". He's at a point now where he's got MAJOR bills to pay. He's working to make a living and to pay the folks on his payroll. Is he just supposed to fire everybody, shut down PP and retire? And just play at coffee houses for free? Is that what you're trying to say?

Prince could live off his ascap royalties no sweat....He only pays his band members $500.00 a week each so thats not that much....you dont need millions to produce art. all you need is food water and shelter.the other stuff is greed

Why hasnt he done anything for new orleans to help?
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Reply #97 posted 06/04/07 12:17am

Serena

sosgemini said:

Serena said:



I'm talking about this sentence: how about not giving a damn and making music for the craft versus the economics?


no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.


I get what you mean by that, but that isn't what I was referring to anyway.

It's this statement you made: "umm, who are we to judge a person and how they earn their money?", but then you turn around and say: "how about not giving a damn and making music for the craft versus the economics?". Aren't you judging him and how he makes his money?

confuse
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Reply #98 posted 06/04/07 12:36am

bonedaddy

mirrorbestfriend said:

NuPwr319 said:



eek If music should NEVER mix with business, how are we (I'm a musician) supposed to make a living? I shouldn't want to get paid doing what I love? confuse I think you underestimate P's "riches". He's at a point now where he's got MAJOR bills to pay. He's working to make a living and to pay the folks on his payroll. Is he just supposed to fire everybody, shut down PP and retire? And just play at coffee houses for free? Is that what you're trying to say?

Prince could live off his ascap royalties no sweat....He only pays his band members $500.00 a week each so thats not that much....you dont need millions to produce art. all you need is food water and shelter.the other stuff is greed

Why hasnt he done anything for new orleans to help?


You talk bollocks and you know it, you just trying to ruffle feathers.
His musicians are poor and he don't NEED money, tell you what, why don't he do everything for free and never produce another studio album or tour ever again, after all, this shit grows on trees!
If you knew what you was talking about, you would have half a chance, but you don't.
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Reply #99 posted 06/04/07 12:43am

skyecute

Serena said:

sosgemini said:




and its those same folks who were slaming that same Pepsi artist a few days ago for getting paid to appear at a b-day bash...and look who just did appeared at a private event for pay?

lol


If you're talking about MJ appearing at his pimp's bday bash, there's a big difference, Prince actually performed and EARNED his money. Didn't walk in, hang out for a few minutes and walk out because he 'wasn't feeling well'.


According to the 26 photos that were released of the Prince's birthday party, it didn't seem or look as if MJ was ill. Btw, this rumor about him being ill came from the same tabloid that claimed that he was booed at the WMAS. Of course, we all know that was a lie. All you had to do was look at the footage released within minutes after the show and further proof from the televised airing of the entire event. Don't be gullible and believe all the negativity about MJ. You would have a hissy fit if people lied on Prince like that and people were stupid enough to believe. Again, stop the hypocrisy.
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Reply #100 posted 06/04/07 12:53am

Funkmeimfamous

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skyecute said:

Serena said:



If you're talking about MJ appearing at his pimp's bday bash, there's a big difference, Prince actually performed and EARNED his money. Didn't walk in, hang out for a few minutes and walk out because he 'wasn't feeling well'.


According to the 26 photos that were released of the Prince's birthday party, it didn't seem or look as if MJ was ill. Btw, this rumor about him being ill came from the same tabloid that claimed that he was booed at the WMAS. Of course, we all know that was a lie. All you had to do was look at the footage released within minutes after the show and further proof from the televised airing of the entire event. Don't be gullible and believe all the negativity about MJ. You would have a hissy fit if people lied on Prince like that and people were stupid enough to believe. Again, stop the hypocrisy.


You're acting like Prince never got any shit from the press. He became a laughing stock right after PR with that whole body guard/refusing to sing We Are The World thing and then turned into an extreme joke with the symbol drama....it's only NOW he is clawing himself back.

As someone on the org said recently, 10 years ago the man couldn't sell-out a venue in Detriot and now look at him. It's all his own doing. He can't do it through the usual promotional means because of the monopolised music industry so here he is doing it best he can.

As for MJ, so what if the feeling ill incident was garbage? He is STILL charged money to make an appearance at a bday party. Prince went to an event that raised millions of dollars and performed for FREE.
Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016
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Reply #101 posted 06/04/07 1:14am

P2daP

Jimi Hendrix?


He's one of the biggest sell-outs in the history of music. He's legend for selling out. He did concerts at venues and every seat was filled. Man, those venue owners made a TON of money from that. Heck! Hendrix sold albums!!!!! Recored labels made TONS and TONS of money of those. Hendrix is A HUGE SELL OUT!!!


No, if you want to talk about people who haven't sold out, talk about ME! i never sold a single song EVER! i'm NO SELL OUT!!!
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Reply #102 posted 06/04/07 1:22am

P2daP

mirrorbestfriend said:[quote]

NuPwr319 said:




Why hasnt he done anything for new orleans to help?


Come on now... Do your homework...

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Reply #103 posted 06/04/07 1:25am

dumbass

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vanity2 said:


I'd also like to mention that Prince is not supposed to be a pop star, he's supposed to be a musician.

supposed to be according to who? you? I didn't realize Prince's life was bound to some preconceived notion of yours. I wonder if Prince also missed that memo.
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Reply #104 posted 06/04/07 1:56am

Serena

mirrorbestfriend said:

NuPwr319 said:



eek If music should NEVER mix with business, how are we (I'm a musician) supposed to make a living? I shouldn't want to get paid doing what I love? confuse I think you underestimate P's "riches". He's at a point now where he's got MAJOR bills to pay. He's working to make a living and to pay the folks on his payroll. Is he just supposed to fire everybody, shut down PP and retire? And just play at coffee houses for free? Is that what you're trying to say?

Prince could live off his ascap royalties no sweat....He only pays his band members $500.00 a week each so thats not that much....you dont need millions to produce art. all you need is food water and shelter.the other stuff is greed

Why hasnt he done anything for new orleans to help?


Oh, I didn't know you are his accountant and know the details of what he receives in royalties and what he pays his band.

lol
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Reply #105 posted 06/04/07 2:09am

Serena

Funkmeimfamous said:

skyecute said:



According to the 26 photos that were released of the Prince's birthday party, it didn't seem or look as if MJ was ill. Btw, this rumor about him being ill came from the same tabloid that claimed that he was booed at the WMAS. Of course, we all know that was a lie. All you had to do was look at the footage released within minutes after the show and further proof from the televised airing of the entire event. Don't be gullible and believe all the negativity about MJ. You would have a hissy fit if people lied on Prince like that and people were stupid enough to believe. Again, stop the hypocrisy.


You're acting like Prince never got any shit from the press. He became a laughing stock right after PR with that whole body guard/refusing to sing We Are The World thing and then turned into an extreme joke with the symbol drama....it's only NOW he is clawing himself back.

As someone on the org said recently, 10 years ago the man couldn't sell-out a venue in Detriot and now look at him. It's all his own doing. He can't do it through the usual promotional means because of the monopolised music industry so here he is doing it best he can.

As for MJ, so what if the feeling ill incident was garbage? He is STILL charged money to make an appearance at a bday party. Prince went to an event that raised millions of dollars and performed for FREE.


Well said. But, I guess it's ok to pimp yourself out by just hanging out somewhere for a shitload of money but damn the person who actually performs his art to earn the dough. Hell, MJ sold himself out to some FILTHY rich yahoo who could've rebuilt New Orleans 10X over. How about MJ giving THAT money to N.O.?? Oh no, that's right, he has to buy back all his naughty stuff from an auction and pay all his lawyers and creditors. btw...what happened to his big fundraising single???
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Reply #106 posted 06/04/07 4:17am

PurpleCharm

sosgemini said:

Serena said:



I'm talking about this sentence: how about not giving a damn and making music for the craft versus the economics?


no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.


How about you go to your job and not worry about getting paid.
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Reply #107 posted 06/04/07 4:57am

IAintTheOne

Prince aintcha Ghat damn psychic network friend
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Reply #108 posted 06/04/07 5:01am

mirrorbestfrie
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PurpleCharm said:

sosgemini said:



no...another way of saying it:

make music for the sake of music and not care about business aspect of it.


How about you go to your job and not worry about getting paid.

I dont worry about getting paid .....
I do it for the love....
thats the difference between you and me
I don't have to write'em down biggrin
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Reply #109 posted 06/04/07 5:16am

Klyph

I usually don't respond to idiotic threads like this, but what the hell.

If Prince did a commercial for Tucks medicated pads- Sellout!

If Prince did a commercial for Boss drum machines-Sellout!

If Prince did a commercial for Burger King-Sellout!

Prince doing a commercial for high-heeled boots IS NOT SELLING OUT!

Prince doing a Verizon MUSIC DOWNLOAD SERVICE commercial IS NOT SELLING OUT!!!

Prince doing a stint in Vegas PLAYING MUSIC is NOT SELLING OUT!!!!!

All this "I do it for the love" bull is just that, BULL!! I write music for the love too, BUT I HAVE A JOB!!!! MY PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME IS NOT FROM MAKING MUSIC, BUT PRINCE'S IS!!! If you only do music "for the love" you would never sell it, NEVER!!! You would play free shows, give away from CD's, and free downloads all the time, every time.

Oh, and all of this "Prince is rich" crap is making me sick. So what if he's rich! Does that mean he doesn't need money? Like he is sssooooo rich that he never needs income coming, ummmm.....IN!! I doesn't matter how much money you have, if you don't keep bringing money in you soon will be broke!!! END OF STORY. And then you wanna bring up New Orleans!! Have you forgotten Prince did put a song on iTunes, and the proceeds from that song went to Hurricane Katrina relief. I swear, the world is full of idiots!!

(And I bet most of the idiots screaming SELLOUT bought Purple Raincoat condoms!!!)
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Reply #110 posted 06/04/07 5:20am

CalhounSq

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eek I would totally buy Viagra if P pushed it eek








eek
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #111 posted 06/04/07 5:28am

mirrorbestfrie
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Klyph said:[quote]I usually don't respond to idiotic threads like this, but what the hell.

If Prince did a commercial for Tucks medicated pads- Sellout!

If Prince did a commercial for Boss drum machines-Sellout!

If Prince did a commercial for Burger King-Sellout!

Prince doing a commercial for high-heeled boots IS NOT SELLING OUT!

Prince doing a Verizon MUSIC DOWNLOAD SERVICE commercial IS NOT SELLING OUT!!!

Prince doing a stint in Vegas PLAYING MUSIC is NOT SELLING OUT!!!!!

All this "I do it for the love" bull is just that, BULL!! I write music for the love too, BUT I HAVE A JOB!!!! MY PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME IS NOT FROM MAKING MUSIC, BUT PRINCE'S IS!!! If you only do music "for the love" you would never sell it, NEVER!!! You would play free shows, give away from CD's, and free downloads all the time, every time.

Oh, and all of this "Prince is rich" crap is making me sick. So what if he's rich! Does that mean he doesn't need money? Like he is sssooooo rich that he never needs income coming, ummmm.....IN!! I doesn't matter how much money you have, if you don't keep bringing money in you soon will be broke!!! END OF STORY. And then you wanna bring up New Orleans!! Have you forgotten Prince did put a song on iTunes, and the proceeds from that song went to Hurricane Katrina relief. I swear, the world is full of idiots!!

(And I bet most of the idiots screaming SELLOUT bought Purple Raincoat condoms!!!)
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song on Itunes that no one in the real world even knew about ....please that was peanuts.....Jay-z gave a million dollars.....

you telling me prince sold a million dollars worth of that awful studio jam?
Please!
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Reply #112 posted 06/04/07 5:30am

Funkmeimfamous

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mirrorbestfriend said:

song on Itunes that no one in the real world even knew about ....please that was peanuts.....Jay-z gave a million dollars.....

you telling me prince sold a million dollars worth of that awful studio jam?
Please!


It was also available in stores. And you don't know whether he donated more on the side. Prince has always kept his charitable works on the down low.
Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016
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Reply #113 posted 06/04/07 5:33am

Klyph

Funkmeimfamous said:

mirrorbestfriend said:

song on Itunes that no one in the real world even knew about ....please that was peanuts.....Jay-z gave a million dollars.....

you telling me prince sold a million dollars worth of that awful studio jam?
Please!


It was also available in stores. And you don't know whether he donated more on the side. Prince has always kept his charitable works on the down low.


Exactly! Out of all the things I posted he picked that to argue with! What did you give? I don't know, just like you don't know what he gave.

(And I guarantee Jay-Z has more money than Prince! Debate)
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Reply #114 posted 06/04/07 5:34am

Funkmeimfamous

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Klyph said:

Funkmeimfamous said:



It was also available in stores. And you don't know whether he donated more on the side. Prince has always kept his charitable works on the down low.


Exactly! Out of all the things I posted he picked that to argue with! What did you give? I don't know, just like you don't know what he gave.


"Hardcore" my ass. I haven't seen one positive post. And I ain't some fam who thinks the man is above criticise but some of this is ridiculous.
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Reply #115 posted 06/04/07 5:36am

IAintTheOne

mirrorbestfriend said:[quote]

Klyph said:

I usually don't respond to idiotic threads like this, but what the hell.

If Prince did a commercial for Tucks medicated pads- Sellout!

If Prince did a commercial for Boss drum machines-Sellout!

If Prince did a commercial for Burger King-Sellout!

Prince doing a commercial for high-heeled boots IS NOT SELLING OUT!

Prince doing a Verizon MUSIC DOWNLOAD SERVICE commercial IS NOT SELLING OUT!!!

Prince doing a stint in Vegas PLAYING MUSIC is NOT SELLING OUT!!!!!

All this "I do it for the love" bull is just that, BULL!! I write music for the love too, BUT I HAVE A JOB!!!! MY PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME IS NOT FROM MAKING MUSIC, BUT PRINCE'S IS!!! If you only do music "for the love" you would never sell it, NEVER!!! You would play free shows, give away from CD's, and free downloads all the time, every time.

Oh, and all of this "Prince is rich" crap is making me sick. So what if he's rich! Does that mean he doesn't need money? Like he is sssooooo rich that he never needs income coming, ummmm.....IN!! I doesn't matter how much money you have, if you don't keep bringing money in you soon will be broke!!! END OF STORY. And then you wanna bring up New Orleans!! Have you forgotten Prince did put a song on iTunes, and the proceeds from that song went to Hurricane Katrina relief. I swear, the world is full of idiots!!

(And I bet most of the idiots screaming SELLOUT bought Purple Raincoat condoms!!!)
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song on Itunes that no one in the real world even knew about ....please that was peanuts.....Jay-z gave a million dollars.....

you telling me prince sold a million dollars worth of that awful studio jam?
Please!




and what did you do for Hurricane Katrina? hmmm? regardless, it was from the heart does it matter how much it made? even if it made 100.00 it was probably 100.00 more than you ever did for it right?
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Reply #116 posted 06/04/07 5:38am

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Klyph said:

Funkmeimfamous said:



It was also available in stores. And you don't know whether he donated more on the side. Prince has always kept his charitable works on the down low.


Exactly! Out of all the things I posted he picked that to argue with! What did you give? I don't know, just like you don't know what he gave.


he didnt give a mill I know that!
yall Know Prince is selfish
If he cared he would have went to houston and done a FREE concert for those people who were going through so much

the NBA players went down there
Shaq,Jordan,Kobe had 3 18 wheelers full of food and water with them....Did prince do that? NO

but he will go to Texas for a wedding but not to help his own people?
how sad?

I love Prince more than anyone but I also realize he needs to check his ego at the door
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Reply #117 posted 06/04/07 5:39am

Funkmeimfamous

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mirrorbestfriend said:

Klyph said:



Exactly! Out of all the things I posted he picked that to argue with! What did you give? I don't know, just like you don't know what he gave.


he didnt give a mill I know that!
yall Know Prince is selfish
If he cared he would have went to houston and done a FREE concert for those people who were going through so much

the NBA players went down there
Shaq,Jordan,Kobe had 3 18 wheelers full of food and water with them....Did prince do that? NO

but he will go to Texas for a wedding but not to help his own people?
how sad?

I love Prince more than anyone but I also realize he needs to check his ego at the door


Did you go down there?
Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016
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Reply #118 posted 06/04/07 5:42am

Klyph

Funkmeimfamous said:

Klyph said:



Exactly! Out of all the things I posted he picked that to argue with! What did you give? I don't know, just like you don't know what he gave.


"Hardcore" my ass. I haven't seen one positive post. And I ain't some fam who thinks the man is above criticize but some of this is ridiculous.



I feel you! Some people just like to argue, and I suspect Mirror is one. I'm a realist, and I've stated before that Prince's music and creativity is not where it used to be, and it's common sense that it shouldn't be. With that said, I like Guitar, its a nice little pop song. Does it push the boundaries of creativity? Hell no! But I'm not looking for that in Prince anymore. I just want some cool little songs and if I get more, cool. But all this sell-out talk is nonsense, and Mr. Mirror is probably a disgruntled musicians who has never made any money. Most people who scream sell-out are broke!
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Reply #119 posted 06/04/07 5:44am

mirrorbestfrie
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Funkmeimfamous said:

mirrorbestfriend said:



he didnt give a mill I know that!
yall Know Prince is selfish
If he cared he would have went to houston and done a FREE concert for those people who were going through so much

the NBA players went down there
Shaq,Jordan,Kobe had 3 18 wheelers full of food and water with them....Did prince do that? NO

but he will go to Texas for a wedding but not to help his own people?
how sad?

I love Prince more than anyone but I also realize he needs to check his ego at the door


Did you go down there?


yes I did volunteer.I helped get people processed into the Red Cross computer to get aid.

I saw alot of stars oprah,david haasellhoof,etc.....didn't see or hear about prince doing anything
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