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Reply #60 posted 10/22/06 11:46pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Miserable? No, he seems more at peace with himself and his legacy now than perhaps ever before. Annoying? Well, in some ways.

Prince always had a strong sense of self and always seemed to really be confident in his beliefs. But the difference is that, in the past, he usually seemed to take on more of a rebellious, free spirited approach to his beliefs that focused more on his own personal salvation and happiness.

With stuff like Uptown, it seemed more about either joining him to share the good time or getting the fuck out of the way so as to not ruin his own. Now it seems to have changed from "Join me if you want or let me be" to "Join me or perish in inevitable damnation."

The Prince of yesterday always felt like someone who was searching, and invited everyone else to search along with him. The Prince of today thinks he has found an indisputable truth, and apparently has a need to "save" us.

In other words, Prince seems to have more boldly assumed the role of the savior instead of the saved/one in need of salvation. He seems to look upon himself as some sort of spiritual teacher these days who needs to school the lost, ignorant children doubting what he is positive is simply "the truth" and nothing less.

Has this arrogance come about with his age and legend status? Was it created by the strict, arrogant nature of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion (and really, almost all religion)? Has it really always been there, and now it's simply more obvious because of our knowledge of his new religion? All very good questions with many possible correct answers.

All I know is that I think Prince works better as the pop artist getting me to dance than the religious preacher getting me to knock on people's doors.


Ironic that it's back when he was singing Uptown that people accused him of thinking he's Jesus rather than now when he's out to Save Us, innit?
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Reply #61 posted 10/22/06 11:49pm

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Miles said:

I view his spiritual assertions on his recent albums and concerts as being a practical aspect of his JW faith. While no expert, I believe JWs are expected to 'testify' their 'witnessing' of their perceived truth. Prince doesn't knock on doors too much, but he'll creep up on ya' through your headphones. wink


pictures a tiny(er) Prince, hanging off a headphone, whispering the Watchtower in someone's ear

That's both amusing and disturbing. lol
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Reply #62 posted 10/23/06 2:46am

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meow85 said:

PurpleKnight said:

Miserable? No, he seems more at peace with himself and his legacy now than perhaps ever before. Annoying? Well, in some ways.

Prince always had a strong sense of self and always seemed to really be confident in his beliefs. But the difference is that, in the past, he usually seemed to take on more of a rebellious, free spirited approach to his beliefs that focused more on his own personal salvation and happiness.

With stuff like Uptown, it seemed more about either joining him to share the good time or getting the fuck out of the way so as to not ruin his own. Now it seems to have changed from "Join me if you want or let me be" to "Join me or perish in inevitable damnation."

The Prince of yesterday always felt like someone who was searching, and invited everyone else to search along with him. The Prince of today thinks he has found an indisputable truth, and apparently has a need to "save" us.

In other words, Prince seems to have more boldly assumed the role of the savior instead of the saved/one in need of salvation. He seems to look upon himself as some sort of spiritual teacher these days who needs to school the lost, ignorant children doubting what he is positive is simply "the truth" and nothing less.

Has this arrogance come about with his age and legend status? Was it created by the strict, arrogant nature of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion (and really, almost all religion)? Has it really always been there, and now it's simply more obvious because of our knowledge of his new religion? All very good questions with many possible correct answers.

All I know is that I think Prince works better as the pop artist getting me to dance than the religious preacher getting me to knock on people's doors.


Ironic that it's back when he was singing Uptown that people accused him of thinking he's Jesus rather than now when he's out to Save Us, innit?


Well, obviously Prince having an ego is hardly anything new, so maybe that's why the JW religion's mentality of "We're right, and you're completely wrong" is a perfect fit for him.
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Reply #63 posted 10/23/06 4:07am

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He's always been full of cosmic bullshit. No more annoying now than it was 20 years ago.
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Reply #64 posted 10/23/06 9:31am

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EmbattledWarrior said:


i don't go to concerts or listening parties to hear a sermon,
i go for him to play his music, not his views on religion and politics
its bad enough that his musical outlet is turning into shite
preaching aint helpin matters
Alot of the stuff he preaches is offensive to other religions,
i remember he said "they're aint no power in the name Mohammed", at a show and i was like wtf...
thats just wrong
no matter what you believe in, it just aint cool to denounce others religion


At this point in his career he's probably not going to conform his concerts to what you would prefer to hear. So there's a very easy solution, if it bothers you that much either ignore it or don't go.

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Reply #65 posted 10/23/06 9:41am

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Cloudbuster said:

He's always been full of cosmic bullshit. No more annoying now than it was 20 years ago.

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but it got worst when LARRY started getting involved....

but i'll just ignore it
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Reply #66 posted 10/23/06 9:47pm

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PurpleKnight said:

meow85 said:



Ironic that it's back when he was singing Uptown that people accused him of thinking he's Jesus rather than now when he's out to Save Us, innit?


Well, obviously Prince having an ego is hardly anything new, so maybe that's why the JW religion's mentality of "We're right, and you're completely wrong" is a perfect fit for him.


Or rather, I'm right and you're wrong."


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Reply #67 posted 10/23/06 10:42pm

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You just described 60% of the orgers on this site.
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Reply #68 posted 10/24/06 9:55am

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He should go back to shutting up and just playing!!!
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Reply #69 posted 10/24/06 9:57am

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Prince should preach at the superbowl boxed
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Reply #70 posted 10/24/06 12:00pm

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Diosuni said:

He should go back to shutting up and just playing!!!



He's never done that.
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Reply #71 posted 10/30/06 1:28pm

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ElCapitan said:

Diosuni said:

He should go back to shutting up and just playing!!!



He's never done that.

Guess u don't recall his early pre- Purple day's , when u couldn't pull 3 words out of him!
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Reply #72 posted 10/30/06 2:30pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Miserable? No, he seems more at peace with himself and his legacy now than perhaps ever before. Annoying? Well, in some ways.

Prince always had a strong sense of self and always seemed to really be confident in his beliefs. But the difference is that, in the past, he usually seemed to take on more of a rebellious, free spirited approach to his beliefs that focused more on his own personal salvation and happiness.

With stuff like Uptown, it seemed more about either joining him to share the good time or getting the fuck out of the way so as to not ruin his own. Now it seems to have changed from "Join me if you want or let me be" to "Join me or perish in inevitable damnation."

The Prince of yesterday always felt like someone who was searching, and invited everyone else to search along with him. The Prince of today thinks he has found an indisputable truth, and apparently has a need to "save" us.

In other words, Prince seems to have more boldly assumed the role of the savior instead of the saved/one in need of salvation. He seems to look upon himself as some sort of spiritual teacher these days who needs to school the lost, ignorant children doubting what he is positive is simply "the truth" and nothing less.

Has this arrogance come about with his age and legend status? Was it created by the strict, arrogant nature of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion (and really, almost all religion)? Has it really always been there, and now it's simply more obvious because of our knowledge of his new religion? All very good questions with many possible correct answers.

All I know is that I think Prince works better as the pop artist getting me to dance than the religious preacher getting me to knock on people's doors.

Damn P.K., helluva post! Very well said and on point.
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Reply #73 posted 10/30/06 10:07pm

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Marrk said:

Honestly?

Especially in concert I find him a bit preachy and he does seem to talk down to people (if they don't share his opinions or philosophies) through a lot of his work these days. Am i alone in this opinion?

Kind of bugs me, do we really need education from someone who is only a musician/performer when all is said and done?

It's not only Prince that is guilty of this. i love him to pieces, but he surely needs to realise the majority of fans are just here for the music.

So what if we like chicken, drinking or the occasional smoke? confused

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what's wrong with Prince integrating the music and his opinions and philosphies? why can't we learn from one another. it's just when i say that my path is right and yours is wrong that the issues come in. One Father.
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Reply #74 posted 11/02/06 12:13am

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Yeah he is, hes always thought hes better than everyone else especially his long suffering fans. He looks down on us with contempt because hes a bible thumping, soy drinking, vegan, no swearing, 27 inch waist having semi delusional freak. Prince should say one day to his audience, "Ok u sexy muthafucka get me a big ol cheesburga and a raspberry cream smoothy and hurry by fucking jeesus" That would make it crazy. The hi and mighty crap has to go!!!!!
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