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Reply #120 posted 01/01/06 4:02pm

NouveauDance

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The singles market is in a funny place right now, as is the business of selling music in general,

We're kinda seeing the final death twitches of the traditional music buying model, and a new one ushered in, it's a wierd time for commercial music IMO.

I wouldn't worry too much about chart placings and such for an artist of Prince's age, he's moving into that 'elderly statesman of pop era' that all acts of a certain age do - seems like he's over the worst part of his decline, Bowies 80s were Prince's 90s (we've all heard that before, right) - I think he's accepting this role with a fair amount of good-natured grace, and he can still write a solid pop song (Cinnamon Girl), and people still regard him as one of the finest live performers around - I'd say he's doing pretty well in that respect

His time at the top of the singles charts is long over, it's a youth orientated market, and the record companies are interested in pushing young acts/artists, like they always have been.

At this point, I don't care if he ever has a hit single again, if it's a hit today, it'd mean either Prince is jumping on some awful trend band-wagon, or people have finally stopped buying the garbage that's fed them every day on MTV, I know which is more likely - So if Prince has another global smash hit, I can't see it being all that great of a song any way by that reckoning.

I'm glad Prince didn't fuck himself up on drugs and shit like that - he might have his little crutches of religion and such, but I just hope he doesn't let that get that in the way of his legacy, he's still got a lot to give as an artist, and I *hope* he respects what he put into his art in the past, and goes someway to canonizing that legacy of his - in remastered, proper releases of the classic albums, and more, Vault and classic live material, - I hope he lets that young guy he was then shine the way he was then, not through the tainted glsases of a middle-aged man, with his own agenda and opinions that apparently differ from those he previously held/promoted.
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Reply #121 posted 01/01/06 4:10pm

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NouveauDance said:

The singles market is in a funny place right now, as is the business of selling music in general,

We're kinda seeing the final death twitches of the traditional music buying model, and a new one ushered in, it's a wierd time for commercial music IMO.

I wouldn't worry too much about chart placings and such for an artist of Prince's age, he's moving into that 'elderly statesman of pop era' that all acts of a certain age do - seems like he's over the worst part of his decline, Bowies 80s were Prince's 90s (we've all heard that before, right) - I think he's accepting this role with a fair amount of good-natured grace, and he can still write a solid pop song (Cinnamon Girl), and people still regard him as one of the finest live performers around - I'd say he's doing pretty well in that respect

His time at the top of the singles charts is long over, it's a youth orientated market, and the record companies are interested in pushing young acts/artists, like they always have been.

At this point, I don't care if he ever has a hit single again, if it's a hit today, it'd mean either Prince is jumping on some awful trend band-wagon, or people have finally stopped buying the garbage that's fed them every day on MTV, I know which is more likely - So if Prince has another global smash hit, I can't see it being all that great of a song any way by that reckoning.

I'm glad Prince didn't fuck himself up on drugs and shit like that - he might have his little crutches of religion and such, but I just hope he doesn't let that get that in the way of his legacy, he's still got a lot to give as an artist, and I *hope* he respects what he put into his art in the past, and goes someway to canonizing that legacy of his - in remastered, proper releases of the classic albums, and more, Vault and classic live material, - I hope he lets that young guy he was then shine the way he was then, not through the tainted glsases of a middle-aged man, with his own agenda and opinions that apparently differ from those he previously held/promoted.
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"His time at the top of the singles charts is long over, it's a youth orientated market, and the record companies are interested in pushing young acts/artists, like they always have been."


Thank Goodness someone with common sense. P might get lucky and get some A/C format play on the radio but, that is going to about it. He is firmly in place as an elder statesman and coming off of the best shows he has done is years but, some of the jaded fans on this board just can't see any of this.
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Reply #122 posted 01/01/06 4:53pm

NouveauDance

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laurarichardson said:

Thank Goodness someone with common sense. P might get lucky and get some A/C format play on the radio but, that is going to about it. He is firmly in place as an elder statesman and coming off of the best shows he has done is years but, some of the jaded fans on this board just can't see any of this.


You shouldn't be so hard on fans who feel this way, I'm often one of them.

If Prince hadn't put out such mind-bending fabulous music in the first part of his career, most of us probably wouldn't be here now pontificating on his 'shoulda, woulda, couldas' and 'what he should do's.

I think like Prince has to become confortable with this role of elderly statesman of pop (and I think he's growing into it), so the fans have to get used to it too - and that means the 'haters' and the 'fams'.

Prince still has a great deal to offer and the story isn't complete yet, there's still loads of chapters left, so we should cut him some slack, the output of his 20s was amazing in it's quality and quantity, it's silly to expect Prince is any different to any other pop music genius that came before him, the talent is always there, but the drive changes.

And the fams who have a 'don't critize' attitude are just as bad - An opinion is never a bad thing to express, and who's followed Prince's musical career more closely than us? No-one - so our criticism, although sometimes harsh, always come out of high expectations amd a genuine passion, as an audience, for his body of work.We should be able to tell the difference between great Prince, OK Prince, auto-pilot Prince and just down-right terrible Prince - no-one's perfect.

We have a lot to look forward to - A new big budget commercial release, lots of interesting rumours regarding appearances on the album and the tour - I for one am just gonna enjoy the 3121 period, I'm tired of expecting another Parade or Dirty Mind, and then bumming on Prince for not giving it to me - Expect nothing and hope for something decent, he can still surprise ya - TRC and Xpectation were big surprises IMO.
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Reply #123 posted 01/02/06 1:09am

DavidEye

how is the song doing this week? Are the sales improving?
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Reply #124 posted 01/02/06 1:25am

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I just saw the video and heard the song for the first time. It's like if Wednesday Addams and Little Richard had a baby...


Maybe I'm just stuck too far back in time and unable to fully appreciate the "new" Prince. That's probably it. neutral
Murica: at least it's not Sudan.
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Reply #125 posted 01/02/06 4:45am

DavidEye

SquirrelMeat said:

Whats with this American obsession with chart positions and "target audiences"?

If you like the song, great, if you don't, no problem.


Amen! It's a shame that so many people are so concerned with chart status and sales.I admit,I have been guilty of this myself.
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Reply #126 posted 01/02/06 4:51am

Evvy

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his not being at the top of the charts for years did not stop him from making 90 MILLION dollars in 2004

and it won't stop him from making that and more this year- top of the charts?
let that phrase remain the t.v. show please
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #127 posted 01/02/06 4:54pm

Octavius

Maybe it'll be useful at figure skating competitions.
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