Mazerati said:

I imagine he's hurting himself, chart wise, by having it for sale in places other than iTunes, as well.

Musicology was a commercial song.

Te Amo Clitorous is a great song, but kids wont dig it.

BeautifulFrance said:

Never understood the appeal of that song, either. I think it's about as dreadful as his remake of "Betcha....". His voice sounds downright awful in both.

See, mon frere, nous pensons comme un seule quelque fois.

VH1 has Prince as the number two artist under Britney and the video debuted number three. Sounds pretty good, to me.

GoldiesParade said:

Agreed Goldie. I think that Te Amo is the kind of music that we'd better get used to hearing from Prince. The only way he's going to ever have a chance at huge record sales again is to do like Carlos Santana did. Use outside producers and do duets with younger artists, But I seriously doubt that will ever happen.

AsianBomb777 said:

- Hmm...don´t agree...the song isn´t catchy enough to be a hit. It didn´t become a hit even with Prince´s big ´comeback´. I remember the only time I listened to it in a danceclub here in Brasil...my friend said "it´s boring", but when "Kiss" played, she said "this song I like".

Today I like "Musicology" but only after I heard the live versions (much better BTW)

ok, slightly off topic but i'm bored of people going on about prince giving away copies of musicology on his tour.

like someone said, it SOLD a MILLION at RETAIL. that means, a million copies (or therabouts) were sold at shops, bought by people in a recordstore etc etc. he gave away a further million (or was it closer to 1.4?), however, he still SOLD a million, or nearly a million copies.

he performed dear mr man in concert too on the musicology tour.

catwoman - how do you know sales at his own online download store were bad when noone releases figures. on top of which, he hasn't even released anything at his download store in the past year, apart from glass cutter and SST (which sold well if iTunes sales were anything to go by), so how can you say he's gone to universal because his own download sales were poor. no offence, but it sounds like nonsense.

Octavius said:

he performed dear mr man in concert too on the musicology tour.

also, he performed life o' the party and call my name too!

obviously if you think they were shit then it doesn't really matter anyway!

softandwet said:

Oh come on. At the TRC/ONA concerts he performed all the songs from the album at each concert. Sure Prince performed a single from Musicology HERE and THERE.
Another thing, the only reason Musicology got where it did was because of the sales/sold CDs, that HE (gave away) included as sales. He was not even going to be allowed to count those but they let him, THIS TIME. Because there were no rule/s against this stragedy at the time. He is not allowed to "count sales" that way again. They have to be actual "BOUGHT" albums. Where people/fans actually went to the music stores, via the net or the music store and buy it themself.





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TheCatWoman said:

Not quite true... Prince can still sell an album included with a concert ticket. If he ALSO makes a 'ticket only' option available then the former would still count towards albums sales.
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softandwet said:

actually, you are quite wrong on this. i know from actual sources this is false. musicology was on the charts of an old tactic that even Murder Inc took practice in which was buying your own releases and boosting the numbers. Besides that he stacked the numbers by the tour tickets. 1.2 were not sold at retail. That figure is so off I won't even go into the "Captain Obvious" statistics. You can be sick of anyone saying the opposite but the truth is Prince has been trying for years to have a runaway hit. If you really want to get into raw data and numbers you will see why BET/MTV darted away from Te Amo Corazon premiere. There's always more behind the scenes. And "YA BOY" pressed too hard on the media outlets. Prince apologists crack me up. There's a reason why Radio and TV got turned off by Prince. It's the same damn reason why cats shut down Michael off Invicible. Michael's tactics were annoying and obtrusive in the same way Prince was. He would keep telling outlets "This is it this is the biggest hit ever" Prince suffers from attention whoreitis.

So once again to shatter that false statistic you are toting "1.2 million were NOT sold at retail." You are smoking Sherm if you think that.

Alot of Prince fans still don't get it. He doesn't have the WB mafia to pressure the outlets to play the singles like he wants now. And no one likes an attention whore after a while. Press conferences for singles and announcing "Im Free and I finally have a deal I am happy with" only last for so long. Alot of people don't want to deal with him. They cut him off. You don't even have a clue how many deals Prince collapsed just to have a "EVENT" video that flunks.

And I can tell you he did not want to go off on his promise of never playing the hits again. But he had no choice to play "Purple Rain" and the "HITS"
Because EMI/Arista/ and even Columbia wasn't going to give him his return he wanted because he wasn't delivering hits. This guy actually got EMI to make Betcha By Golly wow a single and he told Anthony DeCurtis that Get Yo Groove On or was it Jam of the year) was going to be a huge hit. He puffed out his chest

The saddest thing of all is the fact that Universal was conned into thinking 3121 will be a runaway hit. No one can identify with a primadonna genius who wants your attention everytime he does something. He dresses and stares like he is going to a RAEL cult convention.











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jtfolden said:

What is not "quite true"? You just verified what I said to be true. I SAID, he can't include the CD (album) with the sales ticket. He HAS to sell them seperate. Give the buyer the option to either buy the album, buy the ticket or BOTH!? Be it the net; etc....



I would LOVE to know how many Musicology CDs were sold AFTER the tour. I assure you it was not much.



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Reading these replies are so depressing....If I were Prince, I would just throw in the towel...he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Trickology said:

das funny!










hey trick, you just about said it all in your post

preciosa863 said:

no, I would not agree with your statement. BUT, I will say, he can't please his fans or gain NEW ones and PLEASE his religion at the same time. It's impossible. UNLESS he is out to only make music for and to please "christians". Prince is trying to be somebody is he not.



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This is a very nice song and great video, unfortunately the song is in between a rock and a hard place. It is typical of many ballads on the Latin charts and if it were marketed more to them, it may rise higher. But I don't really know how Latin music buyers take to non-Hispanics crossing over to their charts. I watch a lot of Latin shows and videos and I haven't seen it done in this time, I don't know what happened with Madonna's song La Isla Bonita because I wasn't paying attention then. I think for mainstream America, the song is too "eclectic". Yet, I don't think the song is hopeless because it didn't chart high. Many songs get a cult following and do very well.

I think Prince would do go to try to hit the Latin charts because foreign market music stays pretty constant and interesting while the American charts are just crappy right now. It would be a nice change for him.

LQ

GoldiesParade said:

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Wrong he gave a million away and gave is still wrong because people paid for those disc. The other million was sold via retail That is two million not really that bad and keep in mind he got to keep half of the profit.

TheCatWoman said:

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What concert did you attend. He did Musicology, The Life of the Party, On the Couch, and Call My Name. I saw muliple show and I have video.

Your just full of knowledge (LOL)

TheCatWoman said:

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No he said he was unhappy with the way WB was operating and if you look at WB now thay still are not operating that well.

He has also said that even he did not know how hard it would be to distribute and get radio airplay. I think he tried to do it all himself and saw that he could not and found away to work with the record labels in a way that is more favorable to the artist.

What I can't understand is why fans are so gun ho for the music industry. Why do some of you want P to fail.

Don't you think the artist should get the bulk of the profits for their work?

TheCatWoman said:

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What does being a Christian have to do with this song? Don't you thihk P was a Cristian before the JW thing?

laurarichardson said:

He performed ALL 4 of the songs you just mentioned at ONE concert alone? What one was that?

laurarichardson said:

I'm sure he was a "Christian" before this JW "thing" .. My point is, he CAN'T please both. His fans and this religion. He is holding back, and we all know why that is.

Being a "Christian" you can't please two gods at once. At least not the God we know and another. And you can't strive to be the "god" some think or thought you were.
What I am saying is nobody is perfect, and God gave Prince a gift, it's ashame to see him giving up on that gift and supressing it because of a religion.

TheCatWoman said:

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He did Musicology, LOTP and Call My Name in D.C. I have seen footage of him doing Musicology, LOTP and On The Couch. So it looks like he may kept at 3 songs.

laurarichardson said:

Oh thats not bad .. 3 of the, how many on the Musicology album?

With ONA, he covered most every song at every concert, as he did with past albums.

TheCatWoman said:

He CAN include the CD with a sales ticket. He simply has to, also, offer a second choice of a normal ticket with no CD attached. He could sell one ticket bundle for a "special price" of $49 that included the CD and one for $45 that didn't, etc... I don't think there's any written stipulation on what the price difference has to be.

He opened all shows with Musicology. At two of my shows he did LOTP and On The Couch as well. Other accounts have him doing Dear Mr Man, Call My Name as well.

Some of you are a trip. The internet brings forth many many....

jtfolden said:

.. Okay!

DiamondGirl said:

SHEEP!

TheCatWoman said:

ones with agendas in Vegas