pinkcashmere23 said:

purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Yes pink, “live here anymore” and the way he was weaving the show It made me feel like he was saying live here in the building The nature of the show is like a bit of a puzzle. Like I was constantly thinking ok who is he talking about or too now What is he saying oh ok now he is singing. It was heady.

Ah ok, so similar to what he said during the Rave show. Interesting. Yes,listening to the shows I felt he was talking to a particular woman or women as well. Fascinating to listen to.

For the Rave show Prince was singing Jimi Hendrix's "Red House", but he changed the lyrics to "Purple House". He did the same thing back in 1987 during an aftershow but he changed the lyric to "Beach House" (there's a beach house over yonder, that's where my baby stays...") Suannah lived in LA so I'm guessing he was singing about her as it was just after she left MN.

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During that Rave show Prince sang "I got a bad feeling my Puerto Rican beauty don't live here no more" Then he quickly said, "that's okay, I still have her baby....maybe not". This was during the time that they were separated and close to divorce.

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Since there were several women who lived or spent time at his house in MN he could have been singing about any of them during those P&M shows - Susannah, Mayte, or Manuela. He never lived at PP with any of the women, so I doubt he would have been referring to PP as the "house" they shared. He had the apartment, but PP was mostly for business/music.

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ladygirl99 said:

His music is the true love of his life. The man stated he was married to the music.

Actually, I think Vanity was the one who stated Prince was "married to his music" after she was asked why they never got married, or if she had wanted to marry him. Prince usually said, "I am music".

purplefam99 said:

violetcrush said:

Do you remember which show? He also may have been referring to his Son, unless it was connected to a song about their relationship.

It is the screening of the P&M show that they show at the Celebration They have showed portions each year. I believe it is from either his last Atlanta Show or it’s the last one at PP. I’m sorry I can’t recall what song he goes into Or is singing when when talk about his Puerto Rican baby. They way he said it It sounded like he was referencing a woman.

Are you sure that is what he said? Because he did sing the song 1000 X & O's during the second PP show where he sang "I got a 1000 hugs and kisses for you when you come back home baby" which could also sound like "puerto rican baby". I listened to both shows though, and he did not say those words. Could have been at the last PP show before he passed. I'll have to listen to that one.

pinkcashmere23 said:

purplefam99 said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Maybe, I was so into just absorbing how he was moving during the performance That I can’t recall which song. Maybe Te Amo???

Could be since that was seemingly inspired by Mayte. I believe 'The Dance' was as well.

I don't think Te Amo and The Dance were inspired by Mayte - mainly because the lyrics speak of someone he's trying to "get" or someone he wants to be with - as in a new relationship and not someone that he had been with in the past. If anything, I think they many have been connected to Bria Valente, because he began dating her not long after those songs were recorded.

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Ah ok, so similar to what he said during the Rave show. Interesting. Yes,listening to the shows I felt he was talking to a particular woman or women as well. Fascinating to listen to.

For the Rave show Prince was singing Jimi Hendrix's "Red House", but he changed the lyrics to "Purple House". He did the same thing back in 1987 during an aftershow but he changed the lyric to "Beach House" (there's a beach house over yonder, that's where my baby stays...") Suannah lived in LA so I'm guessing he was singing about her as it was just after she left MN.

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During that Rave show Prince sang "I got a bad feeling my Puerto Rican beauty don't live here no more" Then he quickly said, "that's okay, I still have her baby....maybe not". This was during the time that they were separated and close to divorce.

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Since there were several women who lived or spent time at his house in MN he could have been singing about any of them during those P&M shows - Susannah, Mayte, or Manuela. He never lived at PP with any of the women, so I doubt he would have been referring to PP as the "house" they shared. He had the apartment, but PP was mostly for business/music.

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Hmm I didn't know he'd sung that in '87 changing it to 'Beach House' He also said 'You can come home if you want to' during '1000 X's & O's' at one of the shows at Paisley. I had read in a biography that Kim Basinger stayed with him at PP and that her brother had to come and get her because she had become so obsessed with P. Don't know the validity of that story but I've read it a few times.

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Could be since that was seemingly inspired by Mayte. I believe 'The Dance' was as well.

I don't think Te Amo and The Dance were inspired by Mayte - mainly because the lyrics speak of someone he's trying to "get" or someone he wants to be with - as in a new relationship and not someone that he had been with in the past. If anything, I think they many have been connected to Bria Valente, because he began dating her not long after those songs were recorded.

There were rumors at the time that 'Te Amo Corazon' may have been written for Liza Hernandez,the model/dancer from Panama he was said to be seeing after the split with Mani. Someone here posted that P and Mayte had connections to Morocco,where he filmed the video so after learning that,I thought it may have been inspired by her. 'The Dance' was originally on 'ONA' piano voice that was released after the divorce with Mayte so I suppose that was why some connected the song to her along with her being a dancer. Since he remade it for 3121,I think it may have been Mani inspired.

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

For the Rave show Prince was singing Jimi Hendrix's "Red House", but he changed the lyrics to "Purple House". He did the same thing back in 1987 during an aftershow but he changed the lyric to "Beach House" (there's a beach house over yonder, that's where my baby stays...") Suannah lived in LA so I'm guessing he was singing about her as it was just after she left MN.

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During that Rave show Prince sang "I got a bad feeling my Puerto Rican beauty don't live here no more" Then he quickly said, "that's okay, I still have her baby....maybe not". This was during the time that they were separated and close to divorce.

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Since there were several women who lived or spent time at his house in MN he could have been singing about any of them during those P&M shows - Susannah, Mayte, or Manuela. He never lived at PP with any of the women, so I doubt he would have been referring to PP as the "house" they shared. He had the apartment, but PP was mostly for business/music.

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Hmm I didn't know he'd sung that in '87 changing it to 'Beach House' He also said 'You can come home if you want to' during '1000 X's & O's' at one of the shows at Paisley. I had read in a biography that Kim Basinger stayed with him at PP and that her brother had to come and get her because she had become so obsessed with P. Don't know the validity of that story but I've read it a few times.

Yes, if you listen to the 1987 aftershow (one of my favs) at Le New Morning in Paris, he sings Jimi's Red House and changes the lyrics to "Beach House'. He also sings Mutiny and seems to be speaking to someone within that song as well, as he says something and then says, "I told you that in the last song" as if he's speaking to someone. He also does the famous and very mysterious "What Did I Do?" song - "Tell me baby, what did I do to make you treat me so bad?. Was it my face? Was it my eyes? Was it my lips? Was it my hips..." LOVE that show.

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

I don't think Te Amo and The Dance were inspired by Mayte - mainly because the lyrics speak of someone he's trying to "get" or someone he wants to be with - as in a new relationship and not someone that he had been with in the past. If anything, I think they many have been connected to Bria Valente, because he began dating her not long after those songs were recorded.

There were rumors at the time that 'Te Amo Corazon' may have been written for Liza Hernandez,the model/dancer from Panama he was said to be seeing after the split with Mani. Someone here posted that P and Mayte had connections to Morocco,where he filmed the video so after learning that,I thought it may have been inspired by her. 'The Dance' was originally on 'ONA' piano voice that was released after the divorce with Mayte so I suppose that was why some connected the song to her along with her being a dancer. Since he remade it for 3121,I think it may have been Mani inspired.

Yes, the Te Amo being directed at Liza Hernandez makes more sense. I didn't know much about her, but again, it's been well documented that he wrote songs to "woo" girls as well.

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I think it's more likely that the songs about Mayte on the ONA release were Have A Heart and Objects In The Mirror, based on the lyrics and also as the first was included in part of the other song.

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

For the Rave show Prince was singing Jimi Hendrix's "Red House", but he changed the lyrics to "Purple House". He did the same thing back in 1987 during an aftershow but he changed the lyric to "Beach House" (there's a beach house over yonder, that's where my baby stays...") Suannah lived in LA so I'm guessing he was singing about her as it was just after she left MN.

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During that Rave show Prince sang "I got a bad feeling my Puerto Rican beauty don't live here no more" Then he quickly said, "that's okay, I still have her baby....maybe not". This was during the time that they were separated and close to divorce.

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Since there were several women who lived or spent time at his house in MN he could have been singing about any of them during those P&M shows - Susannah, Mayte, or Manuela. He never lived at PP with any of the women, so I doubt he would have been referring to PP as the "house" they shared. He had the apartment, but PP was mostly for business/music.

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Hmm I didn't know he'd sung that in '87 changing it to 'Beach House' He also said 'You can come home if you want to' during '1000 X's & O's' at one of the shows at Paisley. I had read in a biography that Kim Basinger stayed with him at PP and that her brother had to come and get her because she had become so obsessed with P. Don't know the validity of that story but I've read it a few times.

Yes, it's been written that Kim B's Brother, and possibly other family members flew to MN to take her back to LA when Prince was not there. I know she did stay at the apartment at PP at least some of the time, because in the RS article "Prince, An Oral History Of The 90's" the guys that he hired on as new management in 1990 said that when they arrived at PP and were "summoned" up to his apartment they opened the door to an "all white" decor and saw Kim Basinger sitting in bed in gold lame and reading a magazine. Prince was sitting at the back of the room at his "clear plexiglass desk". Quite the visual there for sure!!

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Hmm I didn't know he'd sung that in '87 changing it to 'Beach House' He also said 'You can come home if you want to' during '1000 X's & O's' at one of the shows at Paisley. I had read in a biography that Kim Basinger stayed with him at PP and that her brother had to come and get her because she had become so obsessed with P. Don't know the validity of that story but I've read it a few times.

Yes, if you listen to the 1987 aftershow (one of my favs) at Le New Morning in Paris, he sings Jimi's Red House and changes the lyrics to "Beach House'. He also sings Mutiny and seems to be speaking to someone within that song as well, as he says something and then says, "I told you that in the last song" as if he's speaking to someone. He also does the famous and very mysterious "What Did I Do?" song - "Tell me baby, what did I do to make you treat me so bad?. Was it my face? Was it my eyes? Was it my lips? Was it my hips..." LOVE that show.

I haven't heard that show. I'll look for it.! I didn't know he played Jimi's song 'Red House' back then either, Thanks!

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, if you listen to the 1987 aftershow (one of my favs) at Le New Morning in Paris, he sings Jimi's Red House and changes the lyrics to "Beach House'. He also sings Mutiny and seems to be speaking to someone within that song as well, as he says something and then says, "I told you that in the last song" as if he's speaking to someone. He also does the famous and very mysterious "What Did I Do?" song - "Tell me baby, what did I do to make you treat me so bad?. Was it my face? Was it my eyes? Was it my lips? Was it my hips..." LOVE that show.

I haven't heard that show. I'll look for it.! I didn't know he played Jimi's song 'Red House' back then either, Thanks!

Yes! He seemed to love that song. He also played it WAY back - I think at the impromptu 1st Avenue show in 1981-82 where he also played Bambi. That's agreat boot too!!

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The '87 Le New Morning show is on our channel

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

There were rumors at the time that 'Te Amo Corazon' may have been written for Liza Hernandez,the model/dancer from Panama he was said to be seeing after the split with Mani. Someone here posted that P and Mayte had connections to Morocco,where he filmed the video so after learning that,I thought it may have been inspired by her. 'The Dance' was originally on 'ONA' piano voice that was released after the divorce with Mayte so I suppose that was why some connected the song to her along with her being a dancer. Since he remade it for 3121,I think it may have been Mani inspired.

Yes, the Te Amo being directed at Liza Hernandez makes more sense. I didn't know much about her, but again, it's been well documented that he wrote songs to "woo" girls as well.

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I think it's more likely that the songs about Mayte on the ONA release were Have A Heart and Objects In The Mirror, based on the lyrics and also as the first was included in part of the other song.

Yes since she spoke mainly Spanish. Yes,I had heard that too and 'Pearls Before The Swine' may have been inspired by her as well.

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I haven't heard that show. I'll look for it.! I didn't know he played Jimi's song 'Red House' back then either, Thanks!

Yes! He seemed to love that song. He also played it WAY back - I think at the impromptu 1st Avenue show in 1981-82 where he also played Bambi. That's agreat boot too!!

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The '87 Le New Morning show is on our channel

Oooh ok! Thanks!

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I haven't heard that show. I'll look for it.! I didn't know he played Jimi's song 'Red House' back then either, Thanks!

Yes! He seemed to love that song. He also played it WAY back - I think at the impromptu 1st Avenue show in 1981-82 where he also played Bambi. That's agreat boot too!!

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The '87 Le New Morning show is on our channel

Pink, here's the setlist from that '87 show. SO good!! Sheila was not there that night. Dale Alexander was the drummer. Very cute - Prince talks to the audience in the beginning and says, "so, teach me some French", and someone in the audience shouts "Encore Encore!!", and Prince repeats it back. I think it's also the first time he plays Just My Imagination as well.

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	Purple House
	I Got My Mind Made Up (You Can Get It Girl)	Nine
	Instrumental	incl. Holly Rock [Int] (lyrics)
	Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
	What Did I Do?
	Mutiny
	Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Sex Machine	It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night incl. Cold Sweat [H-int], ♥ or $ [H-int] & Six [H-int]

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, the Te Amo being directed at Liza Hernandez makes more sense. I didn't know much about her, but again, it's been well documented that he wrote songs to "woo" girls as well.

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I think it's more likely that the songs about Mayte on the ONA release were Have A Heart and Objects In The Mirror, based on the lyrics and also as the first was included in part of the other song.

Yes since she spoke mainly Spanish. Yes,I had heard that too and 'Pearls Before The Swine' may have been inspired by her as well.

Yes, I agree about PBTS. Harsh!! He was quite bitter, so I think there were some things that must have gone down with her - more than what's been presented to the public. The lyrics to all of those songs are pretty biting.

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Hmm I didn't know he'd sung that in '87 changing it to 'Beach House' He also said 'You can come home if you want to' during '1000 X's & O's' at one of the shows at Paisley. I had read in a biography that Kim Basinger stayed with him at PP and that her brother had to come and get her because she had become so obsessed with P. Don't know the validity of that story but I've read it a few times.

Yes, it's been written that Kim B's Brother, and possibly other family members flew to MN to take her back to LA when Prince was not there. I know she did stay at the apartment at PP at least some of the time, because in the RS article "Prince, An Oral History Of The 90's" the guys that he hired on as new management in 1990 said that when they arrived at PP and were "summoned" up to his apartment they opened the door to an "all white" decor and saw Kim Basinger sitting in bed in gold lame and reading a magazine. Prince was sitting at the back of the room at his "clear plexiglass desk". Quite the visual there for sure!!

Yes that does paint quite a picture. I haven't read that RS article. Yes,that sounds like how Kim's departure was described in the biography. It was said that she did not want to leave Minnesota and her brother went and got her.

violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Yes! He seemed to love that song. He also played it WAY back - I think at the impromptu 1st Avenue show in 1981-82 where he also played Bambi. That's agreat boot too!!

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The '87 Le New Morning show is on our channel

Pink, here's the setlist from that '87 show. SO good!! Sheila was not there that night. Dale Alexander was the drummer. Very cute - Prince talks to the audience in the beginning and says, "so, teach me some French", and someone in the audience shouts "Encore Encore!!", and Prince repeats it back. I think it's also the first time he plays Just My Imagination as well.

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	Purple House
	I Got My Mind Made Up (You Can Get It Girl)	Nine
	Instrumental	incl. Holly Rock [Int] (lyrics)
	Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
	What Did I Do?
	Mutiny
	Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Sex Machine	It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night incl. Cold Sweat [H-int], ♥ or $ [H-int] & Six [H-int]

Thanks! Great setlist! Gonna look for it in a bit.

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, it's been written that Kim B's Brother, and possibly other family members flew to MN to take her back to LA when Prince was not there. I know she did stay at the apartment at PP at least some of the time, because in the RS article "Prince, An Oral History Of The 90's" the guys that he hired on as new management in 1990 said that when they arrived at PP and were "summoned" up to his apartment they opened the door to an "all white" decor and saw Kim Basinger sitting in bed in gold lame and reading a magazine. Prince was sitting at the back of the room at his "clear plexiglass desk". Quite the visual there for sure!!

Yes that does paint quite a picture. I haven't read that RS article. Yes,that sounds like how Kim's departure was described in the biography. It was said that she did not want to leave Minnesota and her brother went and got her.

The other story that has floated around is that she did actually find him with another girl (Robin Power or someone else during that time) and was furious. She may have called her Brother to come and help her pack up and leave. Not sure which story is more accurate - or it could have been a combination of both stories.

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Here's a link to the RS article about Prince in the 90's. Great stories from the managers and the band:

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/prince-in-the-nineties-an-oral-history-40501/

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Yes that does paint quite a picture. I haven't read that RS article. Yes,that sounds like how Kim's departure was described in the biography. It was said that she did not want to leave Minnesota and her brother went and got her.

The other story that has floated around is that she did actually find him with another girl (Robin Power or someone else during that time) and was furious. She may have called her Brother to come and help her pack up and leave. Not sure which story is more accurate - or it could have been a combination of both stories.

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Here's a link to the RS article about Prince in the 90's. Great stories from the managers and the band:

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/prince-in-the-nineties-an-oral-history-40501/

I've read that one as well. Seems like that was said in Alex Hahn's book. Thanks for the link!

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

The other story that has floated around is that she did actually find him with another girl (Robin Power or someone else during that time) and was furious. She may have called her Brother to come and help her pack up and leave. Not sure which story is more accurate - or it could have been a combination of both stories.

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Here's a link to the RS article about Prince in the 90's. Great stories from the managers and the band:

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/prince-in-the-nineties-an-oral-history-40501/

I've read that one as well. Seems like that was said in Alex Hahn's book. Thanks for the link!

Your'e welcome!!

violetcrush said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I've read that one as well. Seems like that was said in Alex Hahn's book. Thanks for the link!

Your'e welcome!!

Great stories! I don't know how I missed that article. Thanks again!

pinkcashmere23 said:

violetcrush said:

Your'e welcome!!

Great stories! I don't know how I missed that article. Thanks again!

You're welcome! I stumbled upon that one online not long after he passed. I thought it was great too.

Hey Pink, I always wondered who, if anyone, inspired the song "Wow" , which was the first song he played at the second PP Gala show for P&M. If it was a real subject it had to have been someone from further back in his past based on the lyrics, but it seemed like he was not in touch with any of those women during that time that song was written/recorded. Would be interesting to know any story behind that one!!

violetcrush said:

Hey Pink, I always wondered who, if anyone, inspired the song "Wow" , which was the first song he played at the second PP Gala show for P&M. If it was a real subject it had to have been someone from further back in his past based on the lyrics, but it seemed like he was not in touch with any of those women during that time that song was written/recorded. Would be interesting to know any story behind that one!!

I have wondered that too. The lyrics do seem to speak of a past love. "Revelation" as well. I would love to know when some of these last songs were written.

violetcrush said:

NotACleverName said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, I agree about PBTS. Harsh!! He was quite bitter, so I think there were some things that must have gone down with her - more than what's been presented to the public. The lyrics to all of those songs are pretty biting.

One can only chuckle at your musings about Mayte (who, btw, Prince proposed to and actually married). Just so I'm clear on your historical interpretation of songs written for or inspired by, the years from 1983 to well into the 90s are all about Susannah? Even though Prince, himself, clearly dedicated (via spoken and written word) many songs/ballads to Mayte. Emancipation and the Love Symbol album are tangible proof of this. We all know Prince named her his "soulmate" and said the following shortly after Emancipation was released - "You can now hear that my soul has been in love with Mayte for thousands of years". The wedding program that Prince created highlighted this statement with numerous references and coincidences to how they were destined to be together. Yes, it didn't last and they did divorce. I would guess they were both very hurt. Sometimes, because we are human, the hurt is released as anger and we say and do things we might wish we hadn't. Forgivable transgressions considering the circumstance. Unfortunately, the aforementioned seems to be lost on you. For whatever reason, you continually devalue this 10 year relationship that obviously meant a great deal to Prince and changed him in ways that no other had before. Btw, I have no desire to go back and forth with you so no need to reference and documents, concert recordings, song lyrics, etc. As you were......

I read recently on an IG fan page dedicated to Mayte and Prince that 'Pearls Before The Swine' was likely inspired by their relationship. I think he seemed to be referencing the media in some of the lyrics with the line 'they build you up just to see you fall' He seemed to be expressing frustration over he and Mayte's divorce with the other imo.

NotACleverName said:

violetcrush said:

Yes, I agree about PBTS. Harsh!! He was quite bitter, so I think there were some things that must have gone down with her - more than what's been presented to the public. The lyrics to all of those songs are pretty biting.

One can only chuckle at your musings about Mayte (who, btw, Prince proposed to and actually married). Just so I'm clear on your historical interpretation of songs written for or inspired by, the years from 1983 to well into the 90s are all about Susannah? Even though Prince, himself, clearly dedicated (via spoken and written word) many songs/ballads to Mayte. Emancipation and the Love Symbol album are tangible proof of this. We all know Prince named her his "soulmate" and said the following shortly after Emancipation was released - "You can now hear that my soul has been in love with Mayte for thousands of years". The wedding program that Prince created highlighted this statement with numerous references and coincidences to how they were destined to be together. Yes, it didn't last and they did divorce. I would guess they were both very hurt. Sometimes, because we are human, the hurt is released as anger and we say and do things we might wish we hadn't. Forgivable transgressions considering the circumstance. Unfortunately, the aforementioned seems to be lost on you. For whatever reason, you continually devalue this 10 year relationship that obviously meant a great deal to Prince and changed him in ways that no other had before. Btw, I have no desire to go back and forth with you so no need to reference and documents, concert recordings, song lyrics, etc. As you were......

Prince married Mayte when she was pregnant - sorry, but this has definitely come to light -by her own statements. They and she had stated back then that her original due date was mid November and that the baby was born premature in October. However, in one of her interviews during her stint on Hollywood Ex's she stated clearly that she carried the baby "to full term". It appears that may have been a "slip of the tongue" as they say, but it's on video, as I've watched it. That being the case, she would have conceived at some point in early January of 1996. This would also explain the rush for the wedding on February 14th 1996. It also makes no sense that Prince would have scheduled the release of his album and all of the press at the exact time she was supposed to give birth - however, scheduling all of that a month after the expected due date makes much more sense.

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Look, I'm in no way saying that he did not care for her or love her. However, the whole "soulmate" thing and "destined to be together" and "I think she may have been my sister in a former life" blah blah blah....sorry, I think that was PR "fluff" to support the situation, and Prince at his public relations (and quirkiest) best. He had completely re-configured the Emancipation track list during the time they were married as well to add the songs about the marriage and baby - look at the recording dates. By that November, he had tons of promotion to do for that release - including a major appearance on the most watched talk show on TV - Oprah. That interview is tough to watch now - knownig everything we know.

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You have consistently referred to his "10 year relationship" with Mayte, but for the first 5 years she was his employee and one of MANY that he publicly dated. He was not exclusively involved with her for 10 years. I'm not going to reference songs, but it is a fact that many of them during the 90's were referencing a relationship(s) that he was missing. There is no denying that piece.

violetcrush said:

NotACleverName said:

violetcrush said: One can only chuckle at your musings about Mayte (who, btw, Prince proposed to and actually married). Just so I'm clear on your historical interpretation of songs written for or inspired by, the years from 1983 to well into the 90s are all about Susannah? Even though Prince, himself, clearly dedicated (via spoken and written word) many songs/ballads to Mayte. Emancipation and the Love Symbol album are tangible proof of this. We all know Prince named her his "soulmate" and said the following shortly after Emancipation was released - "You can now hear that my soul has been in love with Mayte for thousands of years". The wedding program that Prince created highlighted this statement with numerous references and coincidences to how they were destined to be together. Yes, it didn't last and they did divorce. I would guess they were both very hurt. Sometimes, because we are human, the hurt is released as anger and we say and do things we might wish we hadn't. Forgivable transgressions considering the circumstance. Unfortunately, the aforementioned seems to be lost on you. For whatever reason, you continually devalue this 10 year relationship that obviously meant a great deal to Prince and changed him in ways that no other had before. Btw, I have no desire to go back and forth with you so no need to reference and documents, concert recordings, song lyrics, etc. As you were......

Prince married Mayte when she was pregnant - sorry, but this has definitely come to light -by her own statements. They and she had stated back then that her original due date was mid November and that the baby was born premature in October. However, in one of her interviews during her stint on Hollywood Ex's she stated clearly that she carried the baby "to full term". It appears that may have been a "slip of the tongue" as they say, but it's on video, as I've watched it. That being the case, she would have conceived at some point in early January of 1996. This would also explain the rush for the wedding on February 14th 1996. It also makes no sense that Prince would have scheduled the release of his album and all of the press at the exact time she was supposed to give birth - however, scheduling all of that a month after the expected due date makes much more sense.

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Look, I'm in no way saying that he did not care for her or love her. However, the whole "soulmate" thing and "destined to be together" and "I think she may have been my sister in a former life" blah blah blah....sorry, I think that was PR "fluff" to support the situation, and Prince at his public relations (and quirkiest) best. He had completely re-configured the Emancipation track list during the time they were married as well to add the songs about the marriage and baby - look at the recording dates. By that November, he had tons of promotion to do for that release - including a major appearance on the most watched talk show on TV - Oprah. That interview is tough to watch now - knownig everything we know.

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You have consistently referred to his "10 year relationship" with Mayte, but for the first 5 years she was his employee and one of MANY that he publicly dated. He was not exclusively involved with her for 10 years. I'm not going to reference songs, but it is a fact that many of them during the 90's were referencing a relationship(s) that he was missing. There is no denying that piece.

I thought that some of what was said to the press about their relationship was possibly PR too and he said in interviews prior to the wedding that he had no plans to settle down any time soon. He built a story around their relationship starting with the Love Symbol album.

something that i feel about Prince and Susannah's relationship.

i think it was a place of security, steady an mostly uncomplicated.

i think she represented a "mother" place of love. A place that was

unconditional, forever accepting and unchallenged. i think she provided

a mother love to him. no matter how foolish he behaved she was

this place he maybe came back to perhaps to be told "it is ok i still love you

i will still be here to tell you your ok". Something that maybe was missing with Mattie.

i have not been one to really get into who song was for who, that just hasn't been my interest area.

i will say this, when i heard Sinead sing "all the flowers that you planted mama" i always thought

she was actually talking to her mother. now hindsight after being here on the org and talking

about songs and what not. i think the song NCTY is perhaps about, at least in part, about Mattie

or a mothering relationship. i always thought Sinead was singing to her Mother.

we all need different kinds of love i think the mother bond is particularly important.

i think that is why perhaps those songs of wanting SM to stay is because what she was to

his psyche. Mother.

just a thought.