Mostly hotlips gossip agencies like TMZ and the gutter media worldwide, ones who foam at the mouth as each drug scandal or family fight involving people with hair hats fighting over his estate as he died without a will and as every dodgy child of Prince claimant came forth (My name is Chimeka Shahondra Jekin and this is my son Revolutionrainde Prinze who was born after Prince ear fucked me at a Purple Rain concert).

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Then the Revolution members cashing in on his dead celebrity and people doing the shows and revivals based on Prince.

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I also think whoever is running Paisley is milking it for all its worth too, with the tours, celebrations and limited edition books.

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And Warner/NPG - 4ever was a shameless money grab and the rerelease of pre 1993 albums on CD and vinyl repressings of singles and albums. PR Deluxe was better, but doen more for revenue gathering on a dead artist rather than sincerity to hardcore fans.

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All these nuccas writing books (Mick Wall et al) and other marginal journalists writing biographies quickly or merely adding a new chapter to their existing book (Hahn, Thorne et al).

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Mayte and a few other ex girlies (Not Sheila though) who are milking it. Prince could not stand Mayte after they broke up, same with Manuela. Susan Rogers can respect her involvement, but she is milking it. Anyone else deciding they want to write a book about their time with Prince.

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But then again, people like me buy most of this stuff and if nothing else his death has seem my Prince collection nearly double in size.

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eh the Legacy dies and fades if people don't talk about it.

Remember, Prince is dead, prior to that was Vanity and 2 month before that Kim Upsher

I want the people who were a part of the music the times the scene to talk. Yes there are some people who did nothing concerning Prince after they left Prince then popped up and are not championing Prince, those people I might take issue with ie Tony M for example

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But the Revolution, Sheila E, the Time, Susan Rogers? No These people I want talking and doing the music

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macaylasdad said:

IMO it's that milk company (forget the name) who released a limited edition version of their milk with purple food colouring in Prince's honour. Pretty fucked up considering he was a vegan, definitely an insult to his memory.

jaawwnn said:

Great thread, real original thinking, definitely never thought about it this way before, well done.

i am glad you like it!

MMJas said:

macaylasdad said:

So many Prince "friends" and "family" have been "milking" the media since Prince died? People who havent been seen or heard ever or for years?!?!

• Shelia
• W&L (Revoultion)
• Mayte
• His sisters
• His cousins
• Susan Rodgers

I have to go with W&L, sorry I don't see it...yes they were his backing band during PR, but he kicked them to the curb 30 years ago! I know, what your going to say about the music they created...but only 3 albums came from and 2 out of 3 flopped. The 94-95 NPG, SOTT/Lovesexy, Musicology bands were better!

Oh, you're missing quite a few here. Just saying...

i am sure i am...who do you have that should be on that list?

JudasLChrist said:

macaylasdad said:

And yet...you responded to it! 😂

You are what is called a "non-contributor".

thank you for your kind words...though i am not sure what you contribute either... please enlighten me...

rogifan said:

How do you define milking? Because to some anyone who says two words about him since his passing is milking it and the only people with any integrity are the "fams".

good question... i would define it as someone who uses an event or an unfourtnate event to draw attention to themseves when normally they wouldn't have nothing to say on a matter or situation. This person normally was at one time involved in that person's life but hasn't been seen in many years and now acts like they know if everything about the person. I hope that helps...

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

IMO it's that milk company (forget the name) who released a limited edition version of their milk with purple food colouring in Prince's honour. Pretty fucked up considering he was a vegan, definitely an insult to his memory.

He was a vegan for awhile. Not his whole adult life. He also drank occasionally if you believe the accounts of his Vegas Butler, various Chefs and folks who ate with him. Kristin Chenoweth said he served salmon when he invited her to dinner.

Purple milk is strange though.

purplepoppy said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

IMO it's that milk company (forget the name) who released a limited edition version of their milk with purple food colouring in Prince's honour. Pretty fucked up considering he was a vegan, definitely an insult to his memory.

He was a vegan for awhile. Not his whole adult life. He also drank occasionally if you believe the accounts of his Vegas Butler, various Chefs and folks who ate with him. Kristin Chenoweth said he served salmon when he invited her to dinner.

Purple milk is strange though.

Ah okay, I guess that makes it a little less disrespectful.

precioux said:

I know the OP states "friends and family" in regards to who is "milking" it the most, but in all honesty-the one milking it the most is neither friends nor family, it's straight up Warner Brothers. As per an article LR posted a day or so ago, this article blatantly states that Prince and Bowie's death was the best thing that could've happened to this fledgling company. It made me want to

Yeah yer right precioux. It's the old saying - What do you have to do as an artist to get paid what your worth? Dying, the ultimate career move.

purplepoppy said:

Doozer said:

macaylasdad said:

I have to go with W&L, sorry I don't see it...yes they were his backing band during PR, but he kicked them to the curb 30 years ago! I know, what your going to say about the music they created...but only 3 albums came from and 2 out of 3 flopped. The 94-95 NPG, SOTT/Lovesexy, Musicology bands were better!

I thought your thread sucked, and then I read the bold part and immediately forgave you because that's pure lunacy. Go in peace.

my thread sucked. and yet you commented? interesting.

precioux said:

purplepoppy said:

Yeah yer right precioux. It's the old saying - What do you have to do as an artist to get paid what you're worth? Dying, the ultimate career move.

So sad,but true. Hey purplepoppy

Hey Ba-by!

purplerabbithole said:

macaylasdad said:

rogifan said:

How do you define milking? Because to some anyone who says two words about him since his passing is milking it and the only people with any integrity are the "fams".

good question... i would define it as someone who uses an event or an unfourtnate event to draw attention to themseves when normally they wouldn't have nothing to say on a matter or situation. This person normally was at one time involved in that person's life but hasn't been seen in many years and now acts like they know if everything about the person. I hope that helps...

Then that would be Andre Cymone by your definition. Not the Revolution or Sheila E

Maybe even Tyka and her song/video release

Purplerabbithole is playing catch up, she hasn't been a fan long enough to know all the interviews where what she is accusing them of not doing, was actually said. While he was alive.

I suspect U haven't either.

AnnaSantana said:

purplerabbithole said:

• All of the musicians are exploiting him but I guess he exploited them as well so it seems fair. They just need to be accurate and not forgot to point out specifically what exactly made him a genius in the first place (other than statements about how he pushed them to be great...which to me, is less of an indication of genius as it is an indication of his bandleading skills). i get real annoyed when I read hyperbolic general statements about his talents and then no specifics about his creative input, right before they go into the ways in which they contribute.. More balance please.

• His sisters.. I don't know. They are in charge of his estate so I guess they would have to.

• Cousins--don't know

• Susan--she talked about him before he died so no more exploitation than usual.

• Mayte--yes, I think so unfortunately but it doesn't mean she is lying in her accounts.

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i get real annoyed when I read hyperbolic general statements about his talents and then no specifics about his creative input, right before they go into the ways in which they contribute.. More balance please

FINALLY someone said it!!! THANK YOU!!!! :Clap:

^^ Except, who said it?

Purplerabbithole, remember U R playing catch up. there are at least 20 yrs of time where there were interviews where this happened while he was alive. You want people to go indepth in these little interview to cover years of 1000s of songs. Remember you started following Prince A.D. After He Died. If U can find it look up Chicago Public Radio Sound Opinions Podcast 2009 you get a lot of Wendy & Lisa talking about it.

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Again, You want them and us on the org to give you a crash course on Prince Purple History.

U should humbly take your time, and realize, that they owe you nothing because U chose to follow Prince after he died. Sorry to bring it that way, but that is the facts. You were not a fan of Prince. Now you want to champion him as if you were.

purplerabbithole said:

All I ask the bandmates to do is as they inform people of what they contributed that they also don't take for granted that new fans would know what he himself did on his songs and forget to give us the tidbits on his little contributions.... BE specific folks about what he did do and don't forget that that control freak workaholic did a lot more than just write some melodies and lyrics...LOL.

PeteSilas said:

his bandmates had to work harder than they ever worked before or since most likely, so that's why I think they really deserve anything they can get, they also had a hand in the creative process, basslines, keyboard riffs etc.., all many credited to Prince were created by the musicians, just the way it is in that business, they sign a lot of shit away. Springsteen's music wouldn't be the same if it was just him and his guitar, but he gets all songwriting credits. Is it right? I don't know, but he pays them well from what I hear.

the family? I don't know, I tend to think they don't deserve shit but it's not really any of my business, it's family and legal so it's gonna happen that way.

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macaylasdad said:

OF4S - Just to clarify - are you saying the time following Prince on the org? Or just in general? How is this determined? Seems to be a theme lately.

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macaylasdad said:

Doozer said:

macaylasdad said:

my thread sucked. and yet you commented? interesting.

On my planet, we correct our children when they lie or say something stupid.

Word.

• You said that people need to talk about Prince to keep his legacy alive, did you not? If all we need to know is in those old interviews,/books then why do they need to talk at all now?

• I am aware of the more detailed accounts. And I do need to catch up on some of them.. But, its for newbies that these balanced accounts are important because people's opinions get formed pretty quickly and more than likely they are not going to go back and look at old interviews for further clarification. ( I might, others are not going to)> His legacy now is even more delicate because he is dead and unable to defend himself. They don't owe to me. They owe to him for no other reason that he worked his ass off and has no voice anymore. And they are making money (or least getting admiration) for their contributions.

• I can be more patient but it goes without saying that all the balance they may have had in the past, they need to keep having (or start having.)

• NO, I am not attacking the Revolution with those statements. I have mixed feelings about some of their decisions and being new doesn't disqualify me from an opinion. But I also realize that it must be complicated/complex for them to manuever in this post-Prince world of media speculation, exploitation, and knee jerk reactions. I can't judge their intentions (because I don't know these people), only the way their recent interviews come off to people like myself sometimes. They judged people they don't know when they called others out for claiming to be a friend and not mourning long enough.. If I am guilty of it, so are they. They knew Prince. They didn't know everyone who knew Prince. They weren't there when he hung out with proteges or later associates. (at least not all the time, that's for sure.) The Revolution are his most important associates. They get a lot of love but they also bear a bigger responsibility than other associates do because of that reason. They have a power that few other have..they contributed to his peak period. I think they are helping fans with these concerts (no doubt). So I never challenged their intentions in that regard. they do love Prince fans. But I am not talking about that.

• Newer fans have a place in this world. If you want to help me get a crash course, fine. If you want to simply say "you're wrong and misinformed" and then move on...fine, do so. But applying to my better nature by saying you are curious about how I became a fan only to use it against me everytime I say anything even remotely critical of how they come across in recent interviews--that feels like I was tricked...with all due respect,

OldFriends4Sale said:

Purplerabbithole, remember U R playing catch up. there are at least 20 yrs of time where there were interviews where this happened while he was alive. You want people to go indepth in these little interview to cover years of 1000s of songs. Remember you started following Prince A.D. After He Died. If U can find it look up Chicago Public Radio Sound Opinions Podcast 2009 you get a lot of Wendy & Lisa talking about it.

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Again, You want them and us on the org to give you a crash course on Prince Purple History.

U should humbly take your time, and realize, that they owe you nothing because U chose to follow Prince after he died. Sorry to bring it that way, but that is the facts. You were not a fan of Prince. Now you want to champion him as if you were.

purplerabbithole said:

All I ask the bandmates to do is as they inform people of what they contributed that they also don't take for granted that new fans would know what he himself did on his songs and forget to give us the tidbits on his little contributions.... BE specific folks about what he did do and don't forget that that control freak workaholic did a lot more than just write some melodies and lyrics...LOL.

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U should humbly take your time, and realize, that they owe you nothing because U chose to follow Prince after he died.

They shouldn't have to go into the detail U require to be scrutinized.

purplerabbithole said:

• You said that people need to talk about Prince to keep his legacy alive, did you not? If all we need to know is in those old interviews,/books then why do they need to talk at all now?

• I am aware of the more detailed accounts. And I do need to catch up on some of them.. But, its for newbies that these balanced accounts are important because people's opinions get formed pretty quickly and more than likely they are not going to go back and look at old interviews for further clarification. ( I might, others are not going to)> His legacy now is even more delicate because he is dead and unable to defend himself. They don't owe to me. They owe to him for no other reason that he worked his ass off and has no voice anymore. And they are making money (or least getting admiration) for their contributions.

• I can be more patient but it goes without saying that all the balance they may have had in the past, they need to keep having (or start having.)

• NO, I am not attacking the Revolution with those statements. I have mixed feelings about some of their decisions and being new doesn't disqualify me from an opinion. But I also realize that it must be complicated/complex for them to manuever in this post-Prince world of media speculation, exploitation, and knee jerk reactions. I can't judge their intentions (because I don't know these people), only the way their recent interviews come off to people like myself sometimes. They judged people they don't know when they called others out for claiming to be a friend and not mourning long enough.. If I am guilty of it, so are they. They knew Prince. They didn't know everyone who knew Prince. They weren't there when he hung out with proteges or later associates. (at least not all the time, that's for sure.) The Revolution are his most important associates. They get a lot of love but they also bear a bigger responsibility than other associates do because of that reason. They have a power that few other have..they contributed to his peak period. I think they are helping fans with these concerts (no doubt). So I never challenged their intentions in that regard. they do love Prince fans. But I am not talking about that.

• Newer fans have a place in this world. If you want to help me get a crash course, fine. If you want to simply say "you're wrong and misinformed" and then move on...fine, do so. But applying to my better nature by saying you are curious about how I became a fan only to use it against me everytime I say anything even remotely critical of how they come across in recent interviews--that feels like I was tricked...with all due respect,

OldFriends4Sale said:

Purplerabbithole, remember U R playing catch up. there are at least 20 yrs of time where there were interviews where this happened while he was alive. You want people to go indepth in these little interview to cover years of 1000s of songs. Remember you started following Prince A.D. After He Died. If U can find it look up Chicago Public Radio Sound Opinions Podcast 2009 you get a lot of Wendy & Lisa talking about it.

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Again, You want them and us on the org to give you a crash course on Prince Purple History.

U should humbly take your time, and realize, that they owe you nothing because U chose to follow Prince after he died. Sorry to bring it that way, but that is the facts. You were not a fan of Prince. Now you want to champion him as if you were.

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OldFriends4Sale said: