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Reply #30 posted 09/05/16 3:56pm

bondno9

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TOB said:

laurarichardson said:

The cursive seems off. I am wondering if this is Vanity's writing or someone else writing her a letter.

Now that would be equally as interesting. If they would like a scan or the original I would be happy to provide it.

[Edited 9/5/16 15:51pm]

Are you saying these are not the original copies?!? You claimed this was a letter from P to Denise. But it's signed "Fargo" and the cursive is off. Also, the pic of the other letter claiming to be from P while Denise was in the hospital seems "off" also

[Edited 9/5/16 15:58pm]

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Reply #31 posted 09/05/16 4:08pm

TOB

bondno9 said:

TOB said:

Now that would be equally as interesting. If they would like a scan or the original I would be happy to provide it.

[Edited 9/5/16 15:51pm]

Are you saying these are not the original copies?!? You claimed this was a letter from P to Denise. But it's signed "Fargo" and the cursive is off. Also, the pic of the other letter claiming to be from P while Denise was in the hospital seems "off" also

[Edited 9/5/16 15:58pm]

???

A "scan" or the "original?"

They are pictures of the letters... they can be scanned and sent email or the originals mailed.

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Reply #32 posted 09/05/16 4:13pm

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TOB said:

bondno9 said:

Are you saying these are not the original copies?!? You claimed this was a letter from P to Denise. But it's signed "Fargo" and the cursive is off. Also, the pic of the other letter claiming to be from P while Denise was in the hospital seems "off" also

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???

A "scan" or the "original?"

They are pictures of the letters... they can be scanned and sent email or the originals mailed.

It does not matter if you scan the letters or send the originals out. The handwritting is off on the ones you have scanned today. Perhaps you have something else that he actually signed with this name.

I will tell you if you try to sell these the handwriting will be analyzed and Prince's signature is out there to be compared.

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Reply #33 posted 09/05/16 4:38pm

Vashtix

Is the floral letter the proposal letter?

It is amazing she kept all this stuff and the pics. Are there any pics of her and Prince together ?

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Reply #34 posted 09/05/16 4:52pm

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IMO, that first letter looks nothing at all like Prince's beautiful cursive writing - was he on a train or a plane experiencing turbulence when he allegedly wrote it? Besides the fact that the letter also makes no sense, is grammatically incorrect, contains misspellings, and why doesn't that letter, unlike all other correspondence I've seen from Prince to other people, use "U", "2", "B", "4" in place of "you", "to/too/two" etc? Prince didn't write like that. And it looks like it's signed "3Fargo" or Torgo?

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I think somebody else wrote that letter and it got mixed in with Prince's letters, or got mislabeled as being from him, or something, I don't know.

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Reply #35 posted 09/05/16 4:55pm

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Vashtix said:

Is the floral letter the proposal letter?

It is amazing she kept all this stuff and the pics. Are there any pics of her and Prince together ?

What proposal letter? I never heard about Prince writing Vanity a proposal letter (doesn't mean that isn't so...I just have never heard anything about one.) I know he wrote Mayte a proposal letter - that letter was included in the items Mayte was going to auction off a few months prior to Prince's passing. But Mayte's proposal letter is the only one I've ever heard about or seen.

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Reply #36 posted 09/05/16 5:06pm

TOB

laurarichardson said:

TOB said:

???

A "scan" or the "original?"

They are pictures of the letters... they can be scanned and sent email or the originals mailed.

It does not matter if you scan the letters or send the originals out. The handwritting is off on the ones you have scanned today. Perhaps you have something else that he actually signed with this name.

I will tell you if you try to sell these the handwriting will be analyzed and Prince's signature is out there to be compared.

Pointless dialog... save it for someone selling something.

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Reply #37 posted 09/05/16 5:28pm

Vashtix

slowlywiltingflower said:

Vashtix said:

Is the floral letter the proposal letter?

It is amazing she kept all this stuff and the pics. Are there any pics of her and Prince together ?

What proposal letter? I never heard about Prince writing Vanity a proposal letter (doesn't mean that isn't so...I just have never heard anything about one.) I know he wrote Mayte a proposal letter - that letter was included in the items Mayte was going to auction off a few months prior to Prince's passing. But Mayte's proposal letter is the only one I've ever heard about or seen.

I am sorry I used the wrong wording - the letter proposing that Prince and Denise be on good terms or rekindle their friendship; I did not mean marriage proposal.

Maybe I misinterpreted I thought there was something mentioned about rekindling friendship.

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Reply #38 posted 09/05/16 5:30pm

TOB

Vashtix said:

Is the floral letter the proposal letter?

It is amazing she kept all this stuff and the pics. Are there any pics of her and Prince together ?

No pics of her and him other than what is already out there.

I recall seeing a letter of hers to him, as if it were a practice letter or she may have made a mistake and re-wrote it. I initially ignored it because it said "To Prince Albert" or something like that.

In the letter she is asking if he had read her book and what he thought of her artwork and poetry.

It's possible that the letter was initially a response to something she had written.

They knew they would never be together but found solice in knowing how the other felt?

Just being able think... and know the other feels the same, was enough?

I would like to believe that.

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Reply #39 posted 09/05/16 5:30pm

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TOB said:

laurarichardson said:

It does not matter if you scan the letters or send the originals out. The handwritting is off on the ones you have scanned today. Perhaps you have something else that he actually signed with this name.

I will tell you if you try to sell these the handwriting will be analyzed and Prince's signature is out there to be compared.

Pointless dialog... save it for someone selling something.

--I do not care if you keep this stuff, display it on Prince.org or sell it. We are all telling you that what you have scanned today does not look like P's signature. Over and out.

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Reply #40 posted 09/05/16 5:31pm

Vashtix

TOB said:

After losing their sister, his pasting meant losing a (large) portion of their sister that had survived. A portion that they felt could some how be provided or explained by him at some later date.

Knowing and fearing how she might have reacted, independently, both DeBorah and Patricia said to me, "Thank Goodness she pasted before he did." I knew what they meant.

How touching that the family saw him as holding a large part of their sister Denise. After so many years gone past to it is touching to know.

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Reply #41 posted 09/05/16 5:40pm

Vashtix

TOB said:

Vashtix said:

Is the floral letter the proposal letter?

It is amazing she kept all this stuff and the pics. Are there any pics of her and Prince together ?

No pics of her and him other than what is already out there.

I recall seeing a letter of hers to him, as if it were a practice letter or she may have made a mistake and re-wrote it. I initially ignored it because it said "To Prince Albert" or something like that.

In the letter she is asking if he had read her book and what he thought of her artwork and poetry.

It's possible that the letter was initially a response to something she had written.

They knew they would never be together but found solice in knowing how the other felt?

Just being able think... and know the other feels the same, was enough?

I would like to believe that.

I get that - their lifestyles were so different; he was Prince-sex-god , Icon and she was the Evangelist. It is nice to know they remained friends. It is nice they found ways to communicate even while living seperate lives and very kind of you and her family to be willing to share with her fans.

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Reply #42 posted 09/05/16 5:50pm

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I've just studied P's handwriting on Google compared to these and I'd say it's Prince. And for the one he wrote when she was in hospital, Google the letter he sent to Bruno Mars, the writing and signature look the same. Could that have been when she was in hospital last year? I love the line "don't worry darling, u're gonna be cool. God loves u, probably now more than ever." How sweet.
There's always a rainbow 🌈 , at the end of every rain ☔️
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Reply #43 posted 09/05/16 5:52pm

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petalthecat said:

I've just studied P's handwriting on Google compared to these and I'd say it's Prince. And for the one he wrote when she was in hospital, Google the letter he sent to Bruno Mars, the writing and signature look the same. Could that have been when she was in hospital last year? I love the line "don't worry darling, u're gonna be cool. God loves u, probably now more than ever." How sweet.

You have studied it so all is well eek

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Reply #44 posted 09/05/16 6:01pm

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TOB said:

So... there's no answer why in this letter (if Prince indeed wrote it) he chose to forego writing the way he did for literally decades and didn't use "U" for 'you', or "2" for 'to/too' and "4" for 'for' and "B" for 'be' and "R" for "are"? Or why, when compared to definitely authentic Prince written correspondence, this letter is riddled with misspellings and bad grammar, something which Prince was NOT known for? And the other letters and notes I've seen he'd write "Love God" somewhere, and lastly, why is this letter signed "3Fargo" or 3Torgo" or something? hmmm

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Reply #45 posted 09/05/16 6:05pm

Vashtix

I love how Prince says Darling in this letter - I love his vocabulary. I have always liked the word Darling and it is endearing even in his song Darling Nikki- something about Darling makes the song not just a sex romp but sort of sweet.

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Reply #46 posted 09/05/16 6:22pm

TOB

Vashtix said:

TOB said:

No pics of her and him other than what is already out there.

I recall seeing a letter of hers to him, as if it were a practice letter or she may have made a mistake and re-wrote it. I initially ignored it because it said "To Prince Albert" or something like that.

In the letter she is asking if he had read her book and what he thought of her artwork and poetry.

It's possible that the letter was initially a response to something she had written.

They knew they would never be together but found solice in knowing how the other felt?

Just being able think... and know the other feels the same, was enough?

I would like to believe that.

I get that - their lifestyles were so different; he was Prince-sex-god , Icon and she was the Evangelist. It is nice to know they remained friends. It is nice they found ways to communicate even while living seperate lives and very kind of you and her family to be willing to share with her fans.

They wrote and spoke in metaphors and sent letters that only the other would recognize?

Is an interesting thought.

Of course my first thought is if he did it with everyone else.

I don't have much time to spectulate on it, that's for you true believers who have "Lassooed" me into this. However, I will now take more care not to dismiss something curious at first blush as I sort things out.

Family members do not make the greatest fans. I value the opinions of the members here, even those jaded who have experienced the frauds; in fact, especially those members. I could use your help with whatever I discover.

Above all else I valued what I loss... I feel and understand your loss and the loss of your own sister.

Thank You

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Reply #47 posted 09/05/16 6:24pm

wavesofbliss

TOB
Thank you for the scans,they're lovely. biggrin
Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND
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Reply #48 posted 09/05/16 6:40pm

Vashtix

TOB said:

Vashtix said:

I get that - their lifestyles were so different; he was Prince-sex-god , Icon and she was the Evangelist. It is nice to know they remained friends. It is nice they found ways to communicate even while living seperate lives and very kind of you and her family to be willing to share with her fans.

They wrote and spoke in metaphors and sent letters that only the other would recognize?

Is an interesting thought.

Of course my first thought is if he did it with everyone else.

I don't have much time to spectulate on it, that's for you true believers who have "Lassooed" me into this. However, I will now take more care not to dismiss something curious at first blush as I sort things out.

Family members do not make the greatest fans. I value the opinions of the members here, even those jaded who have experienced the frauds; in fact, especially those members. I could use your help with whatever I discover.

Above all else I valued what I loss... I feel and understand your loss and the loss of your own sister.

Thank You

You miss them everyday and it never is easy

Thank you again for all you have shared.

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Reply #49 posted 09/05/16 7:20pm

StopIt

Thank you for your sharing here and many of us wish you the energy and strength you need to move through your given duties. Condolences.

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Reply #50 posted 09/05/16 9:25pm

pnv

TOB said:

I have heard you've been waiting, I apologize for the delay. If I knew how to post images I would post copies or images of all letters pertaining to their relationship.



"The Greatest Romance that's ever been Sold" ??? With her being Eve?



After losing their sister, his pasting meant losing a (large) portion of their sister that had survived. A portion that they felt could some how be provided or explained by him at some later date.


Knowing and fearing how she might have reacted, independently, both DeBorah and Patricia said to me, "Thank Goodness she pasted before he did." I knew what they meant.



Denise has written quite a bit about her feelings and their relationship... and as cryptic as this letter is, in some way it is saying more than she could have told me.



Make of it what what you will, It is what It is, this letter reads:





Ahh’m Still Always thinking these thoughts are Yours!



When Forever is perfect…


Being physical will Return to being nothing.


Being nothing shall return too feeling pleasure.


Feeling pleasure will then be something


and


Emotional Self will be all


… the mental self will be.



The way Ahh and you Denise feel will always be important.



Denise Yours


Ahh’m forever thinking in, Denise Your own way, You Denise


are forever thinking too.


Thinking of You Denise has made things easier for me!


Think of me sometimes and


things will be easier for You Denise too.



LOVE


&tar#o




Thank you so much for posting the letters. It's wonderful to see first hand the wonderful relationship they shared. It's incredible to see how their life experiences mimicked each other's. Going off topic, I honestly believe their passing so close to each other was unfortunately not a coincidence. I just feel one left alone without the other on this earth would have been soooo difficult for either one to bare. Once again thank you for posting. Sending love and prayers to you and family.
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Reply #51 posted 09/05/16 10:01pm

Goddess4Real

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Thank u for the letters, photos etc biggrin we really appreciate it touched

[Edited 9/5/16 22:05pm]

[Edited 9/6/16 0:14am]

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #52 posted 09/05/16 11:46pm

morningsong

I'm sorry, I'd like to play along but I can't. Since when does Prince use "ahh" for "I", that's pure ESL stuff to me if I've ever seen it. Misspelling "to" for "too" granted a common mistake but not a common mistake in Prince's writing, Prince can spell basic words and capitalization in the middle of sentences, nope, sorry. At best this is some fan letter to Denise. At worse...well I'll hang for a minute longer just in case.
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Reply #53 posted 09/06/16 12:11am

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TOB said:

These photos are amazing....some I haven't seen before.

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #54 posted 09/06/16 12:42am

Krystalkisses

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Thank you. I have always loved Denise.
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Reply #55 posted 09/06/16 8:40am

Aneksi2007

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The letter in this particular image looks like Prince's penmanship. It's the one that starts off with, "I'm not much 4 talking these daze..." (I assume it was sent to her when she was in the hospital)His capital "G's" were always gorgeous! The one on flowered stationary is not Prince's.

Regardless, thank you for sharing these images. Denise has always had a special place in my heart.
[Edited 9/6/16 8:48am]
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Reply #56 posted 09/06/16 9:16am

pnv

Vashtix said:



TOB said:




Vashtix said:


Is the floral letter the proposal letter?



It is amazing she kept all this stuff and the pics. Are there any pics of her and Prince together ?




No pics of her and him other than what is already out there.



I recall seeing a letter of hers to him, as if it were a practice letter or she may have made a mistake and re-wrote it. I initially ignored it because it said "To Prince Albert" or something like that.


In the letter she is asking if he had read her book and what he thought of her artwork and poetry.



It's possible that the letter was initially a response to something she had written.


They knew they would never be together but found solice in knowing how the other felt?


Just being able think... and know the other feels the same, was enough?




I would like to believe that.




I get that - their lifestyles were so different; he was Prince-sex-god , Icon and she was the Evangelist. It is nice to know they remained friends. It is nice they found ways to communicate even while living seperate lives and very kind of you and her family to be willing to share with her fans.




I always thought they were destined to be together!!!! They were working their way back to each other. Still growing, still maturing, still learning. To me it wasn't so far fetched the two of them being reunited. But the Power that Be said not on this earth. I'm not an extremely religious person, more spiritual yes. I can imagine their spirits/souls being reunited in a beautiful heavenly place.....
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Reply #57 posted 09/06/16 9:48am

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There's no way in hell Prince wrote this.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #58 posted 09/06/16 11:38am

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Thank you for taking the time to share these mementos with us! We truly love them both in life and everlasting. Should you have inquiries on other items, there are plenty of loving (and not so loving...lol) members here who'd be more than happy to assist you.

Blessings to you and your family.

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #59 posted 09/06/16 5:17pm

luvgirl

Geez, take it easy on the guy. He did say the letters COULD be from Prince and he's pretty much asking for our opinions. No need to be so aggressive towards him. I don't think he's trying to pull one over on us. It just seems like he's trying to figure it out himself. sad
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