prince has no reason 2 fear the time as big as his legacy is the only person he has 2 fear is the prince of the 80's. i always loved the time but it was only cuz i knew prince was involved wit them and if it wasnt 4 that i never would of really cared.i dont think prince is holding up nothing cuz if they really wanna release they can call it a jimmy jam album or flyte tyme anything whats really in a name if its the love of making music 2gether what u really about? from reading various innerviews by jammy and terry they still and always have communicated and played music 2gether with prince. i dont think its bad blood wit them i thinkpeople automacially wanna assume prince is the reason 4 everything negative

A bullshit excuse being made from a group that would be nobodies had it not been for Prince.

Fuck The Time, Prince is the greatest artist ever, and he can do whatever he wants!

lastdecember said:

First of all how did this thread take on the theme of are the Time good or bad and can they do an album on their own? Heres the thing, Prince wrote and play all those early albums thamade the Time, whether they can hold their own is irrelevant, shit, its got nothing to do with that, everytime people dont hear want they want to hear they fall back on the "Oh u always kiss Prince's ass" NO its fact that he wrote and played all that stuff, and even his own albums, his own people and engineers stated this all as fact in those days, no one said Morris and Jessie suck or couldnt do anything on their own, the thing is that IF this is a copyrighted name "which" sorry to say is not own by Prince it is part of Paisley Park Records that Warners Owns, not Prince, Warners owns all that stuff from that closed record label, the reissues for the Shelia E albums, were all Warner owned, the Vanity 6 album apollonia 6 album all are their property, Prince has publishing and thats it. But if its really the name, you can just SPELL IT different, The Tyme, plain and simple, he cant HOLD THAT up, there are so many ways around this shit.

WHAT im saying is that the only TIME i hear a new TIME album spoken about is when Prince just happens to be touring or have something going on, and that is FACT, if its done, make the change and put it out, I mean you can tour on it, play clubs and promote it yourself, it sounds more to me like they want him involved in some way and cant get HIM to agree to that, which sorry folks, if thats what you are waiting for, PRINCE to agree to something, better chance finding Osama Bin Laden, give it up and move on, you know the man by now.

WB owns nothins save the masters, and not for long: all these projects were released under Prince's original 1978 contract, which specified that he could release side-projects, so he will get the masters at the same time he gets the "Prince" masters back. The reissues you are refering to of course were done by WB since P can't get 'em back b4 35 years (or maybe now 30 as he recently claimed).

The Time is a Prince property (as are The Family, Madhouse and countless others: he'd have copyrighted the name Jill Jones if it'd been possible ), that's been acknowledge by both The Family and The Time members themselves so there's no debate over this.

databank said:

lastdecember said:

First of all how did this thread take on the theme of are the Time good or bad and can they do an album on their own? Heres the thing, Prince wrote and play all those early albums thamade the Time, whether they can hold their own is irrelevant, shit, its got nothing to do with that, everytime people dont hear want they want to hear they fall back on the "Oh u always kiss Prince's ass" NO its fact that he wrote and played all that stuff, and even his own albums, his own people and engineers stated this all as fact in those days, no one said Morris and Jessie suck or couldnt do anything on their own, the thing is that IF this is a copyrighted name "which" sorry to say is not own by Prince it is part of Paisley Park Records that Warners Owns, not Prince, Warners owns all that stuff from that closed record label, the reissues for the Shelia E albums, were all Warner owned, the Vanity 6 album apollonia 6 album all are their property, Prince has publishing and thats it. But if its really the name, you can just SPELL IT different, The Tyme, plain and simple, he cant HOLD THAT up, there are so many ways around this shit.

WHAT im saying is that the only TIME i hear a new TIME album spoken about is when Prince just happens to be touring or have something going on, and that is FACT, if its done, make the change and put it out, I mean you can tour on it, play clubs and promote it yourself, it sounds more to me like they want him involved in some way and cant get HIM to agree to that, which sorry folks, if thats what you are waiting for, PRINCE to agree to something, better chance finding Osama Bin Laden, give it up and move on, you know the man by now.

WB owns nothins save the masters, and not for long: all these projects were released under Prince's original 1978 contract, which specified that he could release side-projects, so he will get the masters at the same time he gets the "Prince" masters back. The reissues you are refering to of course were done by WB since P can't get 'em back b4 35 years (or maybe now 30 as he recently claimed).

The Time is a Prince property (as are The Family, Madhouse and countless others: he'd have copyrighted the name Jill Jones if it'd been possible ), that's been acknowledge by both The Family and The Time members themselves so there's no debate over this.

Prince has said alot of things in reference to his masters, getting them back and when that will happen, but this is longer than people are being led to believe, Prince signed over alot more then people realize, gave away alot of things minus Publishing when he was let out of his deal in 1996, lets remember Prince DID NOT satisfy the agreement of that contract, he did give the stated albums but he still bought his way out in the end to get Emancipation released, which is why Londell was brought in. Warners is a company, and Prince was not a "shrewd" business man in 1978, lets realize this already, his ownership of things like a name mean nothing, you can change spellings and that HOLD is gone in a flash, because lets be real who is really caring about a new Family or Time album?? outside of Prince fans? so they are going to know if the THE TIME is THE TYME, or the Family using the FAMLEE or madhouse simply putting a dash in Mad-House, shit its that simple

lastdecember said:

databank said:

WB owns nothins save the masters, and not for long: all these projects were released under Prince's original 1978 contract, which specified that he could release side-projects, so he will get the masters at the same time he gets the "Prince" masters back. The reissues you are refering to of course were done by WB since P can't get 'em back b4 35 years (or maybe now 30 as he recently claimed).

The Time is a Prince property (as are The Family, Madhouse and countless others: he'd have copyrighted the name Jill Jones if it'd been possible ), that's been acknowledge by both The Family and The Time members themselves so there's no debate over this.

Prince has said alot of things in reference to his masters, getting them back and when that will happen, but this is longer than people are being led to believe, Prince signed over alot more then people realize, gave away alot of things minus Publishing when he was let out of his deal in 1996, lets remember Prince DID NOT satisfy the agreement of that contract, he did give the stated albums but he still bought his way out in the end to get Emancipation released, which is why Londell was brought in. Warners is a company, and Prince was not a "shrewd" business man in 1978, lets realize this already, his ownership of things like a name mean nothing, you can change spellings and that HOLD is gone in a flash, because lets be real who is really caring about a new Family or Time album?? outside of Prince fans? so they are going to know if the THE TIME is THE TYME, or the Family using the FAMLEE or madhouse simply putting a dash in Mad-House, shit its that simple

I'm answering 2 to your 1 and you answer C as if i had answered B to an A... I don't understand a word of ur gospel about Londell and everything...

But anyway, longer cannot be longer than 35 years.

As 4 the name copyrights, he copyrighted the names later (around 1985 for The Time i guess, and he just recently copyrighted Mazarati, which wasn't the case in the 80's since they released another album under that name in 1989).

And OF COURSE they can change the name, that's what everybody's been saying since page 1 (and OF COURSE they are able to record a good album: they've all had careers for 25 years without Prince backing them).

The ONLY question that remains is... WHAT ON EARTH DID JELLYBEAN TELL JRONDIGO GODDAMMIT???!!!

databank said:

lastdecember said:

Prince has said alot of things in reference to his masters, getting them back and when that will happen, but this is longer than people are being led to believe, Prince signed over alot more then people realize, gave away alot of things minus Publishing when he was let out of his deal in 1996, lets remember Prince DID NOT satisfy the agreement of that contract, he did give the stated albums but he still bought his way out in the end to get Emancipation released, which is why Londell was brought in. Warners is a company, and Prince was not a "shrewd" business man in 1978, lets realize this already, his ownership of things like a name mean nothing, you can change spellings and that HOLD is gone in a flash, because lets be real who is really caring about a new Family or Time album?? outside of Prince fans? so they are going to know if the THE TIME is THE TYME, or the Family using the FAMLEE or madhouse simply putting a dash in Mad-House, shit its that simple

I'm answering 2 to your 1 and you answer C as if i had answered B to an A... I don't understand a word of ur gospel about Londell and everything...

But anyway, longer cannot be longer than 35 years.

As 4 the name copyrights, he copyrighted the names later (around 1985 for The Time i guess, and he just recently copyrighted Mazarati, which wasn't the case in the 80's since they released another album under that name in 1989).

And OF COURSE they can change the name, that's what everybody's been saying since page 1 (and OF COURSE they are able to record a good album: they've all had careers for 25 years without Prince backing them).

The ONLY question that remains is... WHAT ON EARTH DID JELLYBEAN TELL JRONDIGO GODDAMMIT???!!!

no im just saying that when Prince re-did his deal in 1992 things changed besides his name, there are still certain things he will not get back regardless what he is saying, he says alot of things, he said 12 years ago he was re-doing all his albums, he re-did one song. When Prince got out of the deal certain things were changed and negotiated to get out of the deal and most of it is still not spoken of, but some speculated that he gave back most of the money along with copyright to certain things. I have heard the same thing about Prince getting his stuff in 35 years (2013) and thats why he hasnt allowed re-masters of his albums yet, he is waiting to re-negotiate the deals.

jrodndigo said:

xlr8r said:

Please shut up and siddown somewhere and stop spreading rumors attempting to start some shit.

shaking my head

and even if Jellybean DID TELL you something, how are you going to run on a public forum gossiping about it? Dont you think youd be effing up their chance by talking about what a member told you regarding Prince?

Trying for some internet fame

My man..is it that serious? You sound angry and this wasn't posted to piss you or anyone off. Now I know for sure that this is one of Prince's peeps..me and my big mouth (lol)!

Yeah, I do take the weight for this because I forgot about what site I'm on. The Org is no joke when it comes down to the classic debate. And I do hear you about putting people's business out there. Believe it or not, my whole point of posting this was not to vilify Prince..not at all. It was my attempt to inspire long time fans of The Time to raise their voices and get the powers-that-be to listen to reason. Yeah I went there a bit on the whole Prince is scared of the Time thing and reading what I wrote..I can see how one can get some things misconstrued as far as processing what I'm actually saying (or trying to say). Those cats (both Prince and The Time) have always had a good competitive thing going and a lot of times..it came from a genuine place. So when I say that he's scared of them..that's said somewhat in jest. If you know the history between the two then you would know where I'm coming from in this without getting so heated. Peep everyone else's response to this post and you'll notice that everyone is bring up some interesting points as opposed to slamming anyone for their views. This is The Time and Prince and everyone knows their story. Not trying to stir up some shit sir. My whole point in going there with the post was to let it be known how absurd it is for Prince to have any objections about these brothers doing their own thing with The Time or to cause any interference in them releasing new music under The Time name..which he owns. Peace

So all that babbling and you still don't say what he supposedly told you?!? You title this 'The truth...' and tell us to listen carefully and then don't say shit about your subject.

I'm going to orgsue you for false advertising!

btw..what he [allegedly] told you still isn't necessarily 'the truth', you need to hear from both sides before determining that.

lastdecember said:

databank said:

I'm answering 2 to your 1 and you answer C as if i had answered B to an A... I don't understand a word of ur gospel about Londell and everything...

But anyway, longer cannot be longer than 35 years.

As 4 the name copyrights, he copyrighted the names later (around 1985 for The Time i guess, and he just recently copyrighted Mazarati, which wasn't the case in the 80's since they released another album under that name in 1989).

And OF COURSE they can change the name, that's what everybody's been saying since page 1 (and OF COURSE they are able to record a good album: they've all had careers for 25 years without Prince backing them).

The ONLY question that remains is... WHAT ON EARTH DID JELLYBEAN TELL JRONDIGO GODDAMMIT???!!!

no im just saying that when Prince re-did his deal in 1992 things changed besides his name, there are still certain things he will not get back regardless what he is saying, he says alot of things, he said 12 years ago he was re-doing all his albums, he re-did one song. When Prince got out of the deal certain things were changed and negotiated to get out of the deal and most of it is still not spoken of, but some speculated that he gave back most of the money along with copyright to certain things. I have heard the same thing about Prince getting his stuff in 35 years (2013) and thats why he hasnt allowed re-masters of his albums yet, he is waiting to re-negotiate the deals.

You should quit stating things as facts when you're wrong. It's been verified by various Paisley people that he did in fact re-record the albums, I don't know which ones exactly though.

jrodndigo said:

xlr8r said:

Please shut up and siddown somewhere and stop spreading rumors attempting to start some shit.

shaking my head

and even if Jellybean DID TELL you something, how are you going to run on a public forum gossiping about it? Dont you think youd be effing up their chance by talking about what a member told you regarding Prince?

Trying for some internet fame

My man..is it that serious? You sound angry and this wasn't posted to piss you or anyone off. Now I know for sure that this is one of Prince's peeps..me and my big mouth (lol)!

Yeah, I do take the weight for this because I forgot about what site I'm on. The Org is no joke when it comes down to the classic debate. And I do hear you about putting people's business out there. Believe it or not, my whole point of posting this was not to vilify Prince..not at all. It was my attempt to inspire long time fans of The Time to raise their voices and get the powers-that-be to listen to reason. Yeah I went there a bit on the whole Prince is scared of the Time thing and reading what I wrote..I can see how one can get some things misconstrued as far as processing what I'm actually saying (or trying to say). Those cats (both Prince and The Time) have always had a good competitive thing going and a lot of times..it came from a genuine place. So when I say that he's scared of them..that's said somewhat in jest. If you know the history between the two then you would know where I'm coming from in this without getting so heated. Peep everyone else's response to this post and you'll notice that everyone is bring up some interesting points as opposed to slamming anyone for their views. This is The Time and Prince and everyone knows their story. Not trying to stir up some shit sir. My whole point in going there with the post was to let it be known how absurd it is for Prince to have any objections about these brothers doing their own thing with The Time or to cause any interference in them releasing new music under The Time name..which he owns. Peace

Yes, you and your big mouth. Im nobodys "peeps" but isnt that kind of rank that someone told you something presumably in confidence and here you go spreading shit about it? Yes everyone knows the history of The Time so dont act like you're schooling anybody. The point is that if it is true that a Time member told you something about the release being prohibited, why post it publicly with someone as mercucial as Prince in the mix of this who is supposedly "preventing the release" knowing it would but Bean on blast with him as well?

Serena said:

lastdecember said:

no im just saying that when Prince re-did his deal in 1992 things changed besides his name, there are still certain things he will not get back regardless what he is saying, he says alot of things, he said 12 years ago he was re-doing all his albums, he re-did one song. When Prince got out of the deal certain things were changed and negotiated to get out of the deal and most of it is still not spoken of, but some speculated that he gave back most of the money along with copyright to certain things. I have heard the same thing about Prince getting his stuff in 35 years (2013) and thats why he hasnt allowed re-masters of his albums yet, he is waiting to re-negotiate the deals.

You should quit stating things as facts when you're wrong. It's been verified by various Paisley people that he did in fact re-record the albums, I don't know which ones exactly though.

ok so where are they? who are these "paisley people" and where are they making these statements? just saying in an interview "Prince re-did them" is nothing. Ok from everyone i have heard from Prince did alot of this talk in the 1999 era, this would be around the time "roadhouse garden" which got through 3 tracks. The people i have heard from said this was abandoned,' and the people i heard from dealt with Prince's personal DJ through much of the 90's brother jules and also were part of a "line" of Bootlegs from studio stuff that Prince was in fact leaking himself.

lastdecember said:

databank said:

WB owns nothins save the masters, and not for long: all these projects were released under Prince's original 1978 contract, which specified that he could release side-projects, so he will get the masters at the same time he gets the "Prince" masters back. The reissues you are refering to of course were done by WB since P can't get 'em back b4 35 years (or maybe now 30 as he recently claimed).

The Time is a Prince property (as are The Family, Madhouse and countless others: he'd have copyrighted the name Jill Jones if it'd been possible ), that's been acknowledge by both The Family and The Time members themselves so there's no debate over this.

Prince has said alot of things in reference to his masters, getting them back and when that will happen, but this is longer than people are being led to believe, Prince signed over alot more then people realize, gave away alot of things minus Publishing when he was let out of his deal in 1996, lets remember Prince DID NOT satisfy the agreement of that contract, he did give the stated albums but he still bought his way out in the end to get Emancipation released, which is why Londell was brought in. Warners is a company, and Prince was not a "shrewd" business man in 1978, lets realize this already, his ownership of things like a name mean nothing, you can change spellings and that HOLD is gone in a flash, because lets be real who is really caring about a new Family or Time album?? outside of Prince fans? so they are going to know if the THE TIME is THE TYME, or the Family using the FAMLEE or madhouse simply putting a dash in Mad-House, shit its that simple

Time fans. The Time is still drawing people across the color lines to their shows without

Prince. I just saw the Time in June. People were lined up for blocks to see the show in

Uptown Charlotte. The arrogant stance of some of these P fans here has me LMAO.

The Time is still kicking ass live without any help from P and a new album couldn't hurt

whether it's successful comercially or not. These guys much like Maze doesn't need a new

record to draw a crowd but please let's stop with this fucking nonsense that these guys can't make

a living without Prince. Just please stop the fucking madness.

^wass dat? was dat? why y'all beatin' on shit?"

PFunkjazz said:

^wass dat? was dat? why y'all beatin' on shit?"

Quit crying and release the album under another name. If it's a success then they can say they did it all including renaming the band without a drop of Prince's help. If it's a flop then theres no association with Prince or the Original band name. Let's see if the work can stand on its own feet.

And maybe, just maybe it's all a Legal thing.

lastdecember said:

Serena said:

You should quit stating things as facts when you're wrong. It's been verified by various Paisley people that he did in fact re-record the albums, I don't know which ones exactly though.

ok so where are they? who are these "paisley people" and where are they making these statements? just saying in an interview "Prince re-did them" is nothing. Ok from everyone i have heard from Prince did alot of this talk in the 1999 era, this would be around the time "roadhouse garden" which got through 3 tracks. The people i have heard from said this was abandoned,' and the people i heard from dealt with Prince's personal DJ through much of the 90's brother jules and also were part of a "line" of Bootlegs from studio stuff that Prince was in fact leaking himself.

Which "line"? Which outtakes? Until someone has a story to tell (not x told me that y told him that he knew z who...", but z himself, like this dude who was working at Edel and told us what happened and how some material made its way to bootlegs), i'm not buying that! As if the dude would give us stuff that he could release properly since he's got his own label and/or website. As if he would spread valuable 80's material and prevent anything past 1995 to be bootlegged. I don't buy this, there's just no reason why Prince would have wanted to do this, even b4 he quit WB.

Serena said:

jrodndigo said:

My man..is it that serious? You sound angry and this wasn't posted to piss you or anyone off. Now I know for sure that this is one of Prince's peeps..me and my big mouth (lol)!

Yeah, I do take the weight for this because I forgot about what site I'm on. The Org is no joke when it comes down to the classic debate. And I do hear you about putting people's business out there. Believe it or not, my whole point of posting this was not to vilify Prince..not at all. It was my attempt to inspire long time fans of The Time to raise their voices and get the powers-that-be to listen to reason. Yeah I went there a bit on the whole Prince is scared of the Time thing and reading what I wrote..I can see how one can get some things misconstrued as far as processing what I'm actually saying (or trying to say). Those cats (both Prince and The Time) have always had a good competitive thing going and a lot of times..it came from a genuine place. So when I say that he's scared of them..that's said somewhat in jest. If you know the history between the two then you would know where I'm coming from in this without getting so heated. Peep everyone else's response to this post and you'll notice that everyone is bring up some interesting points as opposed to slamming anyone for their views. This is The Time and Prince and everyone knows their story. Not trying to stir up some shit sir. My whole point in going there with the post was to let it be known how absurd it is for Prince to have any objections about these brothers doing their own thing with The Time or to cause any interference in them releasing new music under The Time name..which he owns. Peace

So all that babbling and you still don't say what he supposedly told you?!? You title this 'The truth...' and tell us to listen carefully and then don't say shit about your subject.

I'm going to orgsue you for false advertising!

btw..what he [allegedly] told you still isn't necessarily 'the truth', you need to hear from both sides before determining that.

Exactly!!!

Ok, Jrodndigo, do u enjoy wasting our time like that? What's this "truth"? What did Jellybean tell u? All u said is "Jellybean told me that Prince is preventing the album's release because he's afraid of The Time" and then u extrapolate on your own theories which have nothing to do with the big news u're announcing! So what did he say, just that Prince is afraid of them? Is that "the truth"? How is Prince preventing the album's release? How does Jellybean know that it's out of fear? What's happening exactly? Can't u just goddamn QUOTE him instead of talking and talking and talking and saying nothing? Are you a troll?

Oh, by the way, Mayte told me EVERYTHING about her past relationship with Prince. Listen carefully: they divorced because he loved her but he didn't trust her anymore. Ain't that a goddamn scoop?

Dammit!!!

More heresay...

phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

Prince is a genusi,but some fans elevate him to God-like status They act as if he's the only person on Earth who has talent,lol.

Man what u talking bout.

Well some folks act like he actually created music but that idea should be confined to that other forum.

I know perfectly well what The Time is capable of but I'm not convnced that Prince can stop them from releasing something if they really want to. He might try but so what? Let him.

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

uh oh the purple kool aid drinking hippies are coming in lol but I think The Time is awesome they don't need Prince too be honest I think it was Prince who prevented them from becoming the best they could be the OP thread story just proves that right there

i don't understand this statement. how?

I'm not sure what the truth is but I do know what I heard at JellyBean Johnson's 50th birthday party @ The Fine Line Music Cafe in Mpls. It was one of tightest renditions of DMSR ever witnessed!

phunkdaddy said:

lastdecember said:

Prince has said alot of things in reference to his masters, getting them back and when that will happen, but this is longer than people are being led to believe, Prince signed over alot more then people realize, gave away alot of things minus Publishing when he was let out of his deal in 1996, lets remember Prince DID NOT satisfy the agreement of that contract, he did give the stated albums but he still bought his way out in the end to get Emancipation released, which is why Londell was brought in. Warners is a company, and Prince was not a "shrewd" business man in 1978, lets realize this already, his ownership of things like a name mean nothing, you can change spellings and that HOLD is gone in a flash, because lets be real who is really caring about a new Family or Time album?? outside of Prince fans? so they are going to know if the THE TIME is THE TYME, or the Family using the FAMLEE or madhouse simply putting a dash in Mad-House, shit its that simple

Time fans. The Time is still drawing people across the color lines to their shows without

Prince. I just saw the Time in June. People were lined up for blocks to see the show in

Uptown Charlotte. The arrogant stance of some of these P fans here has me LMAO.

The Time is still kicking ass live without any help from P and a new album couldn't hurt

whether it's successful comercially or not. These guys much like Maze doesn't need a new

record to draw a crowd but please let's stop with this fucking nonsense that these guys can't make

a living without Prince. Just please stop the fucking madness.

i live in charlotte too honey and people were lined up b/c it was free not b/c they so in love wit the time yes the time does have a audience but alot of it came from them being involved wit prince if they so all that y they not playing msg, y they not all across the country selling out like prince they never reached his level of sucess solo or within the group and yes jimmy jamm and terry lewis did good but it was janet there biggest client that gave them the fame.jesse i think he is ok but yall call prince arogant that cat is really arrogant and havent had a #1 single or nothing

cbarnes3121 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Time fans. The Time is still drawing people across the color lines to their shows without

Prince. I just saw the Time in June. People were lined up for blocks to see the show in

Uptown Charlotte. The arrogant stance of some of these P fans here has me LMAO.

The Time is still kicking ass live without any help from P and a new album couldn't hurt

whether it's successful comercially or not. These guys much like Maze doesn't need a new

record to draw a crowd but please let's stop with this fucking nonsense that these guys can't make

a living without Prince. Just please stop the fucking madness.

i live in charlotte too honey and people were lined up b/c it was free not b/c they so in love wit the time yes the time does have a audience but alot of it came from them being involved wit prince if they so all that y they not playing msg, y they not all across the country selling out like prince they never reached his level of sucess solo or within the group and yes jimmy jamm and terry lewis did good but it was janet there biggest client that gave them the fame.jesse i think he is ok but yall call prince arogant that cat is really arrogant and havent had a #1 single or nothing

I have seen the Time at other music festivals where you had to pay 35 dollars and the

crowd was the same so you're not saying anything here. Yes the city of Charlotte sponsored

them for free so what. Time fans are Time fans. If people didn't like the Time they wouldn't have showed up. Standing room only crowd and everyone singing all the lyrics. I'd say people would

have showed up even if they had to pay. No the Time may not be quite as popular as Prince but

the argument is that they wouldn't be successful without Prince. They have already proven themselves succesful without Prince so i don't know what all the whining among Princebots is.

Didn't the Time perform at some big time awards show a couple of years ago. Oh fucking snap they performed at the Grammys. Not bad for a second rate lounge act that can't succeed

without Prince right. Please let's stop trying to undermine Jimmy and Terry's success. They

were successful before Janet. They were very successful producing hits for Change, Chery Lynn, Alexander O'Neal, Cherrelle, and the S.O.S Band before Janet came a calling so let's cut the b.s there and i am a Janet fan. Janet didn't make Jimmy and Terry a household name, they made

Janet a household name. Fact. I would say that guy Morris Day was pretty successful as a solo artist.

As for Jesse so what he didn't have a number one single. What you failed to mention is that he's

had a string of successful top 10 and even top 25 hits. Crazy was a number 2 hit for him but my

god he must be a failure for that. Other top 10 hits for Jesse include Be Your Man, Can You Help

Me, I Want My Girl, and Love Struck. The fact that you are trying to undermine these guys success without Prince just prove what some of us are talking about that Princebots can't see through

those Purple colored glasses. And for the record i'm not a Prince hater as i have about 6 or 7

of his cds.

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

If it is and I were them, I'd take a page out of the Prince - How To Screw Over Friends and Piss Off People Handbook and change their name to an unpronouncable symbol, put the word out on the street that they are now "The Group Formerly Known As The Time", put out a KILLER album of all new material and beat Prince at his own damn game, all the way to the bank and the top of the charts.

But hey that's just me.

PERFECT! The symbol should be a clock!! No words, just a clock...

Bulldog said:

Release it as "The Clock" - (the artist formerly known as The Time) - DONE! - That lil mutha fucka can have a symbol, why can't they?

aw dammm, I shoulda kept reading before I replied.

Good one, Love the pic, This would be so perfect...

djThunderfunk said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

If it is and I were them, I'd take a page out of the Prince - How To Screw Over Friends and Piss Off People Handbook and change their name to an unpronouncable symbol, put the word out on the street that they are now "The Group Formerly Known As The Time", put out a KILLER album of all new material and beat Prince at his own damn game, all the way to the bank and the top of the charts.

But hey that's just me.

PERFECT! The symbol should be a clock!! No words, just a clock...

That's what I'm saying. I'd be like, "bring it on sucka!"

That clock should be the album cover and they could call themselves whatever they want...here's some names...

Perfect Timing feat. Morris Day

Time Immemorial

Time And Again

Time After Time

Time Being

Next Time feat. Morris Day

Right On Time

Nobody can tell me that a band of this calibre can't get this done unless there are some other reasons that we don't know about.

It would be hella fun to see this old rivalry heat up again...it could even be the spark to breathe new fire and energy into both sides.

babynoz said:

djThunderfunk said:

PERFECT! The symbol should be a clock!! No words, just a clock...

That's what I'm saying. I'd be like, "bring it on sucka!"

That clock should be the album cover and they could call themselves whatever they want...here's some names...

Perfect Timing feat. Morris Day

Time Immemorial

Time And Again

Time After Time

Time Being

Next Time feat. Morris Day

Right On Time

Nobody can tell me that a band of this calibre can't get this done unless there are some other reasons that we don't know about.

It would be hella fun to see this old rivalry heat up again...it could even be the spark to breathe new fire and energy into both sides.

The Funky Truth / The Truth2

databank said:

Serena said:

So all that babbling and you still don't say what he supposedly told you?!? You title this 'The truth...' and tell us to listen carefully and then don't say shit about your subject.

I'm going to orgsue you for false advertising!

btw..what he [allegedly] told you still isn't necessarily 'the truth', you need to hear from both sides before determining that.

Exactly!!!

Ok, Jrodndigo, do u enjoy wasting our time like that? What's this "truth"? What did Jellybean tell u? All u said is "Jellybean told me that Prince is preventing the album's release because he's afraid of The Time" and then u extrapolate on your own theories which have nothing to do with the big news u're announcing! So what did he say, just that Prince is afraid of them? Is that "the truth"? How is Prince preventing the album's release? How does Jellybean know that it's out of fear? What's happening exactly? Can't u just goddamn QUOTE him instead of talking and talking and talking and saying nothing? Are you a troll?

Oh, by the way, Mayte told me EVERYTHING about her past relationship with Prince. Listen carefully: they divorced because he loved her but he didn't trust her anymore. Ain't that a goddamn scoop?

Dammit!!!

Wow. I really hit a nerve with this one (lol). I'm serious when I say this..what I wrote did not come from a spiteful place; nor was I trying to spread some nasty rumors. I met the brother not too long ago and I told you what he told me - knowing now that I should've just kept that info private. I'm humble enough to let it be known that I may have stepped out of place for sharing with the public what was told to me by a legit source concerning The Time's album. But the anger I'm getting from this was something I surely had no intentions of stirring. It would be natural for those associated with Prince or The Time to trip in the way you're tripping on me for this. But my goodness..if in fact you're not associated then you have some serious issues by getting so angry with a complete and total stranger on a message board site.

It's obvious I don't do the message board thing too often..

..and it's obvious who's on these message boards 24/7 (lol)!

Relax y'all and get out more often