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Reply #30 posted 04/12/09 8:07am

Billmenever

Seems spiritual minded and I like his guitar playn' and moustache giggle he's got a sexy voice too. I think he's KOOL.
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Reply #31 posted 04/12/09 8:17am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

beatdeadhorse

that's what a lot of y'all do when it comes 2 larry. y'all act like he put a gun 2 prince's head and said convert..instead of realising it was PRINCE that saught out Larry.

the man is a musical genius and a very nice 2 talk 2 if u got the chance 2 meet him. without larry, bass playing would have been nowhere the way it was being played then or now.

so step off haters and realize that prince was a grown ass man making his own decisions ..don't like it? 2 FUCKING BAD!!

it's been 12 years since they've hooked up ..get over it



all of this is true.

and yet... when it comes to his involvement with Prince and his work, he sucks major ass.

sorry.



really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #32 posted 04/12/09 8:19am

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Paris9748430 said:

garywobby said:


I don't believe I ever said Larry made Prince do anything, I think I said that when Larry was in the band Prince released the worst music of his entire career, if u like the albums that Larry appeared on then good 4 u but I personally never listen 2 them coz I think they're crap.



So it's Larry's fault Prince put out a bad album???

I think Planet Earth was Prince's worst album, which Lisa & Wendy played on.

Is it their fault Planet Earth was a bad album???
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CHURCH!!!!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #33 posted 04/12/09 9:02am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

beatdeadhorse

that's what a lot of y'all do when it comes 2 larry. y'all act like he put a gun 2 prince's head and said convert..instead of realising it was PRINCE that saught out Larry.

the man is a musical genius and a very nice 2 talk 2 if u got the chance 2 meet him. without larry, bass playing would have been nowhere the way it was being played then or now.

so step off haters and realize that prince was a grown ass man making his own decisions ..don't like it? 2 FUCKING BAD!!

it's been 12 years since they've hooked up ..get over it


OperatingThetan said:

Larry Graham is a bass genius and a funk legend.

It is only on Prince-related sites I see him get any disrespect and that is because some Prince fans have convinced themselves he 'forced' Prince to accept Jehovah's Witness doctrine and become baptised.

If Larry was on-stage it was because Prince wanted him on stage. If Larry was playing bass (bloody well as it happens) it was because Prince wanted him playing bass.

In fact, to my knowledge it was Larry himself who chose to leave his regular spot in Prince's band around 2000 or so.

I saw Larry live in '98 and thought him amazing. I loved the aftershows with him included. I barely even noticed Larry on 'NPS' or 'RAVE' until I hit the 'net. Larry is hardly responsible for those albums.


clapping bow Thank you! If it was not for Larry Graham, I would not have learned to play bass. The man is a living legend, and the amount of disrespect he gets around here is truly unwarranted. Seeing him play "Hair" with Prince at First Avenue in 2007, was one of the biggest highlights of the 07/07/07 shows for me. LG did not ruin Prince's music because Prince's music has not been ruined. The only people who think that are people who are stuck in a time warp and want to pull Prince into their misery. LG gets nothing but love from real music fans. I remember when he walked in at the Macy's show the line of folks cheered for him. So maybe it's just some of the rabid fans here who like to continually dog LG. Either way, People mature, they evolve, they grow up! Sadly, some Prince fans did not get the memo. rolleyes
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Reply #34 posted 04/12/09 9:37am

garywobby

I actually like most of Prince's music so I definitely ain't stuck in no time warp, and I can't say anything bad about Larry himself because as i've stated b4 I don't know the man, I just believe the least listened 2 albums in my Prince collection are the 1's Larry appeared on and these are the 1's that I just don't like very much, I ain't blaming him 4 these albums and i'm sure he is a talented bass player but all i'm saying is that I don't think he seemed 2 fit in very well with Prince's band.
The start of this thread might've come across as me hating on the man but I was very drunk when I started it so apologies 2 any1 i've offended. sad
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Reply #35 posted 04/12/09 10:18am

realm

Some of his older GCS material was excellent. I never cared for his association with Prince. Maybe it was because I was missing the NPG 94 era with Mayte. NPG 92-95 was great...
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Reply #36 posted 04/12/09 11:01am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

errant said:




all of this is true.

and yet... when it comes to his involvement with Prince and his work, he sucks major ass.

sorry.



really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it


I think about it all the time and it makes me sad sad


Just imagine how great things would be if Larry Graham had never become a part of Prince's life.

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Reply #37 posted 04/12/09 11:08am

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I'm not disrespecting Larry's talent. He's a great musician and an innovator and has some really incredible work under his belt.

But his work with Prince is absolutely awful and his style does not mesh well with Prince's music. The whole point of Prince's brand of funk is that it was a step forward and something different than the style of funk of the 70's that Larry pioneered. Prince going down that route felt like a huge step backward, religious issues or not.

I have some of the same issues with Maceo. As much as I love his playing and his past work, I don't think it's a good fit for Prince's music. Again, it sounds like a step backward to a time and style that Prince had helped the genre move forward from.

These guys are very talented, no doubt, but Prince's fascination with them and his ego trip of having them in his band let their "sound" really take over his work, and not usually for the better.
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Reply #38 posted 04/12/09 11:17am

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errant said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it


I think about it all the time and it makes me sad sad


Just imagine how great things would be if Larry Graham had never become a part of Prince's life.

lol


u r really a fool 2 think that because the moment prince heard sly and the family stone ..4ever changed his life. and a major reason was because larry graham was the bassist 4 sly and the family stone.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #39 posted 04/12/09 11:39am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

errant said:



I think about it all the time and it makes me sad sad


Just imagine how great things would be if Larry Graham had never become a part of Prince's life.

lol


u r really a fool 2 think that because the moment prince heard sly and the family stone ..4ever changed his life. and a major reason was because larry graham was the bassist 4 sly and the family stone.



you'll get over it
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Reply #40 posted 04/12/09 12:09pm

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P was giving props to Larry ages before he was in his band, he was definately a influence, but saying there was nothing else like it at the time, what about Bootsy, he's funky as shit too!

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Reply #41 posted 04/12/09 2:32pm

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garywobby said:

Am I the only one that couldn't stand this man? He ruined the Rave un2 dvd, Rave un2 cd and new power soul.

whats wrong with him hes very talented and fonky quit hatin yo
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Reply #42 posted 04/12/09 3:06pm

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purplemaniac1992 said:

garywobby said:

Am I the only one that couldn't stand this man? He ruined the Rave un2 dvd, Rave un2 cd and new power soul.

whats wrong with him hes very talented and fonky quit hatin yo
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Read the whole topic 1st b4 u jump 2 conclusions.
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Reply #43 posted 04/12/09 4:59pm

Dayclear

From what I've learned Larry Graham helped Prince thru a very hard time in his life and he is much more than just a musical partner with him, he is a friend so the Haters need to leave this shit alone.
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Reply #44 posted 04/12/09 5:22pm

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Dayclear said:

From what I've learned Larry Graham helped Prince thru a very hard time in his life and he is much more than just a musical partner with him, he is a friend so the Haters need to leave this shit alone.


true, and i think the changes prince went through are what people are unhappy with. not entirely fair, i agree, but if we're just talking about the music then i think acknowledging that prince went through some changes and talking openly about our views on his new musical direction is fair. if the subject matter of the things prince went through in private is so sensitive that his new music can't be criticized then he should probably bow out of the public eye, don't you think?

larry is a great musician and i like a lot of his work. i like 'gcs2000' a lot. but i do think the influence he had on prince, post- 1997, musically speaking, has not been entirely for the best. it's quite likely that this isn't even larry's fault; prince was obviously caught up in a nostalgia trip and larry himself might have had very little to do with prince trying to sound 'old school' in the way that he did between the years 1997 and 2004.

i don't think anyone wishes prince had never heard of larry graham. his work obviously had a big impact on prince's early development as a musician. it wasn't until they became buddies in 1997 that it started to seem like prince was focusing on his idol at the expense of his own music.
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Reply #45 posted 04/12/09 5:25pm

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separate from the musical question, i do agree that it seems larry cross passed with prince at a time of extreme vulnerability. depending on your view of the jw faith, you're naturally going to come to different conclusions about what happened next.
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Reply #46 posted 04/12/09 5:52pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

errant said:




all of this is true.

and yet... when it comes to his involvement with Prince and his work, he sucks major ass.

sorry.



really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it



Larry is one of the all time great Bass players!! Im confused. Why fans hate him so much hmm He looks like a nice guy.
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Reply #47 posted 04/12/09 5:57pm

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Dayclear said:

From what I've learned Larry Graham helped Prince thru a very hard time in his life and he is much more than just a musical partner with him, he is a friend so the Haters need to leave this shit alone.


I didnt know they were that close. It must be hard for Prince to read comments like "he sucks major ass" about his close friend. Fans are ruthless and so disfunctional! Sad sad sad
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Reply #48 posted 04/12/09 6:08pm

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jackblack said:

He looks like a nice guy.


unless you happen to be gay, right. biggrin
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Reply #49 posted 04/12/09 10:12pm

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It's odd to me how people will let Prince's religious rants go by the wayside in favor of another album, even if it is mundane and uninspired, yet they'll crucify Graham for having the exact same religious beliefs, and ones not so apparent in his music, (the same music which helped, along with others, form the artist we know as Prince). Seems a bit two-sided.
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Reply #50 posted 04/12/09 10:48pm

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does anyone know if larry has made any other albums after 'gcs2000'?
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Reply #51 posted 04/12/09 10:50pm

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stanleylieber said:

does anyone know if larry has made any other albums after 'gcs2000'?


He's waiting on Tina to set up his pedals and cords.
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Reply #52 posted 04/12/09 11:07pm

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ernestsewell said:

stanleylieber said:

does anyone know if larry has made any other albums after 'gcs2000'?


He's waiting on Tina to set up his pedals and cords.


that's hard to do in high heels.
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Reply #53 posted 04/12/09 11:13pm

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stanleylieber said:


that's hard to do in high heels.


Which is why we won't be seeing GCS2010 anytime soon, methinks.
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Reply #54 posted 04/16/09 1:19am

woogiebear

What I REALLY wish is that Graham & Sly could squash their old beefs and put the ORIGINAL Sly & The Family Stone back together while they're ALL still alive, and b4 it's too late.....
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Nuff said.....
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Reply #55 posted 04/16/09 4:34am

SoulAlive

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ironically larry's album was the best of the new power pack.


I disagree.Chaka's album 'Come 2 My House' is the best album in that set.
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Reply #56 posted 04/16/09 12:11pm

bigjohnrrt

He's "One in a Million"

Brainwashed Prince into the JW. I'll never forgive him for that.
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Reply #57 posted 04/16/09 1:26pm

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SoulAlive said:

stanleylieber said:

ironically larry's album was the best of the new power pack.


I disagree.Chaka's album 'Come 2 My House' is the best album in that set.


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Reply #58 posted 04/17/09 4:32am

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Reply #59 posted 04/19/09 7:34pm

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