NuPwr319 said:

sosgemini said:

its the narcissistic personality disorder statement that crossed the line. you can dislike the art, question the cultural impact, debate the merit of the art but we don't get personal. robin is a member of this sites community (like it or not) and the protection against personal attacks apply to all of us (robin included).

Oh, PLEASE To say, "I think you posted these pictures because you're narcissitic" is no worse than some of the member attacks that I've seen that weren't snipped--people being told to and the emoticons and all the other nastiness. Everybody *ain't* being "protected".

MsMisha319 said:

NuPwr319 said:

Oh, PLEASE To say, "I think you posted these pictures because you're narcissitic" is no worse than some of the member attacks that I've seen that weren't snipped--people being told to and the emoticons and all the other nastiness. Everybody *ain't* being "protected".

It seems only certain people are allowed to say what they want here. I remember back in the old days when EVERYONE was allowed to say what they wanted and they weren't kicked out or deleted to my knowledge

My, how things change


Smooches;)

I'm digging these pics!

sosgemini said:

Word! SupaFunky is right on! I thought that this forum was above soft-core porn...The videos that Ms. Power has on her Myspace page are nasty...PERIOD! I really don't think that ANYONE should post lewd pics unless they are willing to hear that people are GROSSED OUT by them! It has NOTHING to do with Prince, art, OR music. It's a pathetic attempt to suck on the teet (no pun intended) of the Paisley past.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sosgemini said:

i have to agree and question what good a public scolding will do...in the end, is your point being heard by robin when its being delivered in such a critical and parental tone? and if you have shared your concerns with robin in private well...isn't that the more appropriate form of discussion? after all these threads are not supposed to turned personal. and you and others here on this thread have really really turned things personal against robin...

(*just some blabbering post-invasion thoughts from muahaa...still love you all- sos)

OK, there is a straight out porn happening in this thread and it's words that need to be kept in private?

You're cool enough to put it out there, you should be able to deal with whatever comes of it

jackmitz said:

sosgemini said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sosgemini said:

ughhh!!! don't add on to super's comments when he is using misinterpreting my original statement.

You suggested private discussion and honestly if someone is going to be posting these pics, which I have absolutely no problem with, then really they are inviting praise and yes criticism. I actually think it was very responsible for Rhonda to mention the alternatives to how the presentation is being given. The black community already has to deal with so much shit without the "ho" factor being thrown out there. It sounds to me that she has something more than just a pair of tits to offer and Robin seems to be big girl who can handle her shit. On a moral level I have no issue with her "art", but that aint all there is in the world. Maybe that's where she finds the most success and I won't say it's wrong if that works for her, but at the same time the praise is coming from one place and that is from between someone's legs. I'm sure she's aware of that too.

I don't see the discussion that has come from this as a bad thing.

sosgemini said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You suggested private discussion and honestly if someone is going to be posting these pics, which I have absolutely no problem with, then really they are inviting praise and yes criticism. I actually think it was very responsible for Rhonda to mention the alternatives to how the presentation is being given. The black community already has to deal with so much shit without the "ho" factor being thrown out there. It sounds to me that she has something more than just a pair of tits to offer and Robin seems to be big girl who can handle her shit. On a moral level I have no issue with her "art", but that aint all there is in the world. Maybe that's where she finds the most success and I won't say it's wrong if that works for her, but at the same time the praise is coming from one place and that is from between someone's legs. I'm sure she's aware of that too.

I don't see the discussion that has come from this as a bad thing.

Yes, I suggested she do that because I felt that the one line crossed the line and that if she made that one statement in private versus public it might be received a lil more sincerely.

your barking up the wrong trea and arguing against someone that i am not advocating...so the stop sign still holds.

Ok, someone asked me not to post but to leave it alone but Im going to respond to all of the VERY interesting posts on here. :loL:

1) the original post from me was based on past postings and threads and frankly my opinion.

2) Its so very obvious that my posts were not read for their content but to be assumed negative based on me questioning her "ART". Robin is free to say why she thinks taking a pic of herself with her thumb in her mouth is "ART". Her right and choice...I've given her I don't know how many compliments or her body, art and a few of the pics.

3)Ive said over and over that like her ART (drawings and paintings) so this isn't about bashing her but her choice to use this site in this manner. I've just asked why not evolve and show something else. You guys do this all the time with PRINCE Prince is called arrognant, asshole, etc. What's the differene? Or remember the Cat thread...what's the difference? Oh she posts here....


4)I'm not obsessed nor jealous and all of that nonsense. I'm CUTE DAMN IT I'm unimpressed with her "celebrity" (which I think has some of you troubled) but I actually have some concerns.


Even as Supa has mentioned, this isn't a morality issue. I'm personally tired of the over-sexualization of black women. Its sooooo played out. 20 years of booty shaking...damn...move on.

I understand that SOS may view my original statement was a bit much. I'll give him that BUT I don't apologize for it. Cumulative threads, posts, etc had me come to that conclusion, not this thread alone.


Finally, please note, if there is something posted by Robin, Mayte, Mani, Jesus, Buddha, etc. and I don't care for it or don't agree with it...guess what...i'm responding in the manner I see fit.



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I agree with Rhondab.

Robin is obviously a very beautiful woman with a lot of talent. She has stated in the past that she wants to "empower young girls through their sexuality". But I believe we should be empowering girls through their brainpower and the power of their spirit to succeed and overcome obstacles through resilience and self-esteem. Sexuality is a wonderful thing, being sexy is awesome, but being sensual far surpasses sexuality. Sexuality is raw, sensuality is subtle and mysterious and beautiful. Sexuality is run of the mill anymore. We've been there done that to the point that we have children who glamorizes sexuality because society glamorizes and are getting pregnant at 12 years of age, and have lost their innocence.

Honestly, I think that Robin has a very low self-esteem and attempts to build herself up through her sexuality and thinks that when men give her attention based upon the image she wants to create, that this is a good thing. When what she really wants is a man who understands her, who loves her regardless of how she looks, how her body ages, or whether she wakes up with her hair sticking up in all kinds of ways and no make up on he still finds her beautiful. Beauty on the outside is only skin deep, but beauty on the inside is infinite. Beauty on the outside fades, beauty on the inside always radiates.

I always wonder what Robin is going to do when her beauty fades? Do we want to teach our children to hold onto something that will pass and fade with time? Or do we want to cultivate something within them that will last them a lifetime?

Robin, you are a beautiful woman and I hate seeing you sell yourself short. Like Rhonda said, you have beautiful artwork and I would love to see you promote that more. I also think you have true beauty within you, and would love to see you exhibit that more as well. This outer stuff doesn't matter, and it will go one day, but the inner stuff? That is what will get you through a lifetime.

Maybe you are correct about videos not being able to be "air-brushed," mabybe not, but at the same time your video(s) basically put out the same vibe that those pictures do. What do you base your worth on? Is fame really that important to you? Just as Rhondab has stated I as well am not trying to be critical to your character because I dont know you as a person. But the way that you present yourself Robin with those pics.....well they make you seem somewhat lacking substance. Just my opinion.....God bless you as well.

jackmitz said:

I just thought of something else. You know, when Prince was on stage and acting very sexual, he was able to pass that off because the music he was showcasing, while speaking of sex, had a deeper message. It said something. It relayed something besides sex. Art that has an enduring quality to it, that will last for generations, is a piece of work by the artist that says something, that implies a message of some kind, and that people can interpret in ways that mean something to them. It is a piece of work that people can relate to on many different levels. And that is what makes Prince's music stand out above the rest, because it is true art.

But Robin girl, when you post these pictures of yourself, or the music you are trying to sell, there is no deeper message. It can only be interpreted in one way and one way only. Prince may have taught you about sexuality, about expressing yourself on stage in a sexual way, but I think he neglected to teach you a very important part of that, which is to say something that will have some kind of meaning to those that hear it, a meaning that is contrary to what you appear to be selling, or a meaning that people can interpret in their own way. I think this is why I like your artwork, because it exhibits something much deeper than surface stuff. It is *that* which will have a more enduring quality because people can relate to it on different levels. But when you exhibit "art" that only allows one level of interpretation, it doesn't last because eventually people move on, that interpretation loses interest for them because they grow and change. But if the interpretation can grow and change with them, they'll take that art with them rather than leaving it behind.

All I got to say is... that stop sign pic is fucking WEIRD!!!

CalhounSq said:

All I got to say is... that stop sign pic is fucking WEIRD!!!

CalhounSq said:

All I got to say is... that stop sign pic is fucking WEIRD!!!

MsMisha319 said:

BinaryJustin said:

MsMisha319 said:

It seems only certain people are allowed to say what they want here. I remember back in the old days when EVERYONE was allowed to say what they wanted and they weren't kicked out or deleted to my knowledge

Not true. Discourtesy and rudeness to other members has always been frowned-upon here.

In any case, nobody is being censored, "kicked out" or "deleted" by the moderators. The irony is, that it was Rhonda whom inferred that another member (Robin) shouldn't make posts of a certain nature (those being her promotional photos or discussing her relationship with Prince)...

I've not said that Rhonda or anybody else shouldn't offer their opinion - only that I personally find the belligerence of that opinion obsessive.

There's a difference between a rationalised critique and simply putting someone down. Robin has obviously put a lot of work into her photos, painting, music and videos. How does having more than one website equate to a narcissistic disorder? I'm sure that many of the members here, whom post in the Org Artist Community thread, each have a MySpace; a YouTube account; a GarageBand account; a CDBaby account etcetera...

Talking of which, why is it only Robin's art which is criticised so harshly? Why don't some of you pop over to the Org Artist Community thread and diss those members' efforts too?

There is a time and place to offer (constructive) criticism - and here and now isn't the time or place to criticise Robin. It's like a friend giving birth to (what you perceive as) an ugly child. I'd like to think that you wouldn't tell the mother that you find her child ugly - but that's what you're doing with Robin's "baby".

And finally, Robin isn't representing the whole Black Community. She's representing herself - literally. I'm in awe of what she's accomplished so far without the assistance of a Media Company or Sugar Daddy to bank-roll her. As a gay man, my praise for Robin isn't coming from "between my legs" as Supa suggested.

p.s. I still admire and respect Supa and Stymie enormously. I just think you're both wrong this time. I'm sorry.

LittleRedCorvette said:

powerbaby said:

LittleRedCorvette said:

I just thought of something else. You know, when Prince was on stage and acting very sexual, he was able to pass that off because the music he was showcasing, while speaking of sex, had a deeper message. It said something. It relayed something besides sex. Art that has an enduring quality to it, that will last for generations, is a piece of work by the artist that says something, that implies a message of some kind, and that people can interpret in ways that mean something to them. It is a piece of work that people can relate to on many different levels. And that is what makes Prince's music stand out above the rest, because it is true art.

But Robin girl, when you post these pictures of yourself, or the music you are trying to sell, there is no deeper message. It can only be interpreted in one way and one way only. Prince may have taught you about sexuality, about expressing yourself on stage in a sexual way, but I think he neglected to teach you a very important part of that, which is to say something that will have some kind of meaning to those that hear it, a meaning that is contrary to what you appear to be selling, or a meaning that people can interpret in their own way. I think this is why I like your artwork, because it exhibits something much deeper than surface stuff. It is *that* which will have a more enduring quality because people can relate to it on different levels. But when you exhibit "art" that only allows one level of interpretation, it doesn't last because eventually people move on, that interpretation loses interest for them because they grow and change. But if the interpretation can grow and change with them, they'll take that art with them rather than leaving it behind.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY :lol:EVERYONE TRYING TO FIGURE ME OUT! IT WOULD TAKE YOU A MILLION LIFE TIMES FOR ANY OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND ME & WHAT I AM ABOUT READ IT YOURSELF VISIT Website WWW.prince.org/msg/5/196964 HAS ANY ONE HERE EVEN HEARD MY MUSIC? DO YOU OWN MY CD? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO SAY! MY MUSIC IS FOR MY GOD GIVEN KING! IT'S ABOUT LOVE IT'S ABOUT PROCREATION JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR EVERY PERSON THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY OF YOU LIFE SOMEONE HAD TO MAKE LOVE TO CREATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US! MY JOB IS TO KEEP THE WORLD MAKING LOVE HAVING SEX MAKING BABIES! IF YOU CAN' UNDERSTAND THAT THEN SOME OF MY MUSIC MAY NOT BE FOR YOU THE FACT IS THAT I MAKE MUSIC ABOUT * THE SPIRIT* ABOUT GOD * ABOUT MY FUTURE KING * ABOUT MY CHILD * ABOUT LIFE * ABOUT SEX AND ABOUT LOVE * BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO THE MUSIC? IAM WHAT IAM AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIGURE ME OUT! THERE IS ONLY ONE POWER! GOD BLESS WWW.prince.org/msg/5/196964
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powerbaby said:

LittleRedCorvette said:

I just thought of something else. You know, when Prince was on stage and acting very sexual, he was able to pass that off because the music he was showcasing, while speaking of sex, had a deeper message. It said something. It relayed something besides sex. Art that has an enduring quality to it, that will last for generations, is a piece of work by the artist that says something, that implies a message of some kind, and that people can interpret in ways that mean something to them. It is a piece of work that people can relate to on many different levels. And that is what makes Prince's music stand out above the rest, because it is true art.

But Robin girl, when you post these pictures of yourself, or the music you are trying to sell, there is no deeper message. It can only be interpreted in one way and one way only. Prince may have taught you about sexuality, about expressing yourself on stage in a sexual way, but I think he neglected to teach you a very important part of that, which is to say something that will have some kind of meaning to those that hear it, a meaning that is contrary to what you appear to be selling, or a meaning that people can interpret in their own way. I think this is why I like your artwork, because it exhibits something much deeper than surface stuff. It is *that* which will have a more enduring quality because people can relate to it on different levels. But when you exhibit "art" that only allows one level of interpretation, it doesn't last because eventually people move on, that interpretation loses interest for them because they grow and change. But if the interpretation can grow and change with them, they'll take that art with them rather than leaving it behind.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY :lol:EVERYONE TRYING TO FIGURE ME OUT! IT WOULD TAKE YOU A MILLION LIFE TIMES FOR ANY OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND ME & WHAT I AM ABOUT READ IT YOURSELF VISIT Website WWW.prince.org/msg/5/196964 HAS ANY ONE HERE EVEN HEARD MY MUSIC? DO YOU OWN MY CD? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO SAY! MY MUSIC IS FOR MY GOD GIVEN KING! IT'S ABOUT LOVE IT'S ABOUT PROCREATION JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR EVERY PERSON THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY OF YOU LIFE SOMEONE HAD TO MAKE LOVE TO CREATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US! MY JOB IS TO KEEP THE WORLD MAKING LOVE HAVING SEX MAKING BABIES! IF YOU CAN' UNDERSTAND THAT THEN SOME OF MY MUSIC MAY NOT BE FOR YOU THE FACT IS THAT I MAKE MUSIC ABOUT * THE SPIRIT* ABOUT GOD * ABOUT MY FUTURE KING * ABOUT MY CHILD * ABOUT LIFE * ABOUT SEX AND ABOUT LOVE * BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO THE MUSIC? IAM WHAT IAM AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIGURE ME OUT! THERE IS ONLY ONE POWER! GOD BLESS WWW.prince.org/msg/5/196964
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AND ABOUT THE COMMENT THAT I WANT TO"empower young girls through their sexuality".THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID! I SAID WOMEN! THERE IS A DIFFRENCE * YOU WOULD BE SUPPRISED HOW MANY WOMEN ASK ME ADVISE ABOUT HOW TO BE SEXY! EVEN MEN ASK ME! NOT EVERY ONE IS BORN SEXY! OR SEXUAL AND I AM A GREAT TEACHER FOR THOSE BEAUTIFUL" WOMEN WHO WANT TO LEARN THE CRAFT AND BELIEVE ME IT IS A CRAFT! AND I AM THE BEST AT EVERY THING THAT I DO!

Robin. I've sent you a P.M. with details of a possible promotional opportunity in Chicago.

Take care.

Justin. x

SOME OF MY ART! FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE! ONE OF MY MANY GIFTS*