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Reply #60 posted 08/23/11 10:03am

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vjPulp said:

I'm all new to this community and to Prince in general, so I won't be able to judge older and newer songs or shows. But one thing that comes to my mind, when I read the first posting is:

Prince is 53 years old. He has achieved everything there is to achieve. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone anymore. All he can do (and all he does!), is enjoy life. If he feels live making a new record, he'll make it whenever he wants to. If he wants to tour, he'll do a tour, and he'll play the songs he likes, the way he likes. He doesn't HAVE to be magic, innovative, electrifying or whatever people expect from him.

Give me the name of ONE artist or band that kept doing music and art for over 30 years, without repeating themselves after a whle. Without getting sick, addicted in some way, without losing track... Prince, as I feel it, just kept doing "his thing" (and luckily for us, that thing was something we like). But he didnt' do it to please US, but to please himself.

So in my oppinion, it has a touch of presumptuousness (don't know if that's the right expression) and arrogance to expect ANYthing from him. I consider myself very lucky and blessed having experienced one of his concerts in Zurich (apparently one of his best, according to what I read here). But I respect any decisions he makes, and if he decides never to do an album anymore, than so be it. I'll live with it.

I'm new as well here and I totally agree with vjPulp. The problem with Fans is they always want more, this okay in a certain way. Further doing concerts are also a commercial issue, even Prince must earn money. And what would you say if you visit a show were kind of experimental songs are only played, instead of the once you love to hear most. I like his guitar and piano playing as well, but a complete show with only these kind of music would be disapointing to me because of all the songs I grew up and picture certain milestones. All artist which accompanied us from being a twen until adult with a lot of hits have the problem that those songs are requested by the audience. Even if a new album is out (exp. U2, Depeche Mode) I can imagine the hustle to select the right songs, and I believe this time Prince did a great job, as every show has a certain different setlist. I lost Prince for a couple to years and missed some shows and albums, so in conjunction with the EURO 2011 tour I close this gab and honestly I like the last two albums very much. Even Prince gets older and this you can find in his last two albums, there are less childish imo, as we are. Finally, I really could and would see any Prince show until the end of life even if he only plays the kind of setlist he did recently. This are the moments which keeps you young. BTW bands like Aerosmith, ZZ Top, Stones etc. are still on tour with only their old songs and that's fine it is enough stuff to play and perform. We may have to start to accept that Prince will not release any dramatic new stuff. How often are you able to change the world? Even in the fashion industry things are in a repeat mode and so may be Prince as well.
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Reply #61 posted 08/23/11 10:51am

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Thats why he's coming back as a dolphin, to eat you alive!! evil fans lol

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Reply #62 posted 08/23/11 10:58am

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IamFunkay7 said:

Thats why he's coming back as a dolphin, to eat you alive!! evil fans lol

I really had to laugh on that one lol

Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417
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Reply #63 posted 08/24/11 12:30pm

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Many years ago I stopped being curious about a new Prince album, simply because his new albums kept disappointing me. Honestly, when was his last great album??? But that's ok, nobody can be so incredibly creative as he was over 20 years or so...

But we still had the live shows! In 2002, after a couple of crap albums, he returned with "the rainbow children", I wasn't into it so much, but Prince was into it! So he based a tour on it, arranged the new songs just fantastically and chose some older songs perfectly matching with his new songs. He again created a musical concept, something that worked. And he chose the right band for that music, the right stage, the right venues (smaller ones) and even the right clothes. I still have my ticket for the show in Frankfurt, a concert I'll always remember, I wished he would never stop playing...so I got my tickets for the next show in Oberhausen and even an about 200€-ebay-ticket for Zurich...money didn't matter those days, cause you could experience magic!

And now? Today and the recent years? Sometimes he still performs quite well, sometimes quite bad, and sometimes you're even happy he doesn't come back for encores. The magic sometimes has turned to pain, I can hardly stand seeing this genius of musician and live perfomer destroying his own masterpieces. But even when his performance is quite good, there is no such thing as a live musical concept, something new and thrilling. The audience senses that, and so does Prince.

And what about a stage show? Well, don't wanna remember his glorious shows in the 80`s, but seeing Shelby waving a flag during "Purple Rain" is just ridicuouls on an epic level...or Prince chasing her with a towel while she's performing "misty blue", then saying "soul music, soul music...yeah, real music by real musicians".....OMG, that sucks. stage itself is a joke too, or should we appreciate there are no disco jelly fish this time?

Then the band: Shelby is just an average soul singer, he needs her, coz he's sick of singing himself, simple as that. But what' really hard to get, that's the woman on the guitar. Prince, please visit the Philippines, a nation full of Karaoke singers and guitar players (some really good), any guitar player there will do better than Andy Allo....if she was sexy at least.....

I think there is only one chance for him to bring back the 'magic': make a reasonably good album with some kind of theme from first to last song, no need fo a masterpiece. Then mix it with older rarely performed songs to something special, choose musicians, not just instrumantelists and go bring the vibe on stages with perfect lighting and sound, and, goddamn, rehearse and soundcheck it 100 times!!! Do it, and me and many other die-hard fans will be back.....There are many Jazz musicians working hard, a hundred times a year on stage, who'd be very happy filling venues holding some 2000 people and getting their applause, because

' a little bit of something beats a whole lot of nothing '

What a frikkin idiot. Are you on something?

This whole European tour has for the most part been bloody mindblowing and the reviews back that up. I only got to see him in Malahide, and if that is an average concert and meaningless, then I hope he does some more like it.

Why not go and listen to your Justin Bieber album?

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Reply #64 posted 08/24/11 9:39pm

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Meaningless tours? mad

Prince's tours will always have meaning; it will always mean that people, like myself, get to see him live. biggrin

Magic?

The shows I attended in Spring 2011 had plenty of magic. At one point, while Prince was singing, "Purple Rain," confetti came out of nowhere! eek lol

He danced A LOT too, but somehow, he never shook his 'do' loose eek. If that's not magic, I don't know what is! lol

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Reply #65 posted 08/25/11 5:26am

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Meaningless? Hardly...I've been a Prince fan since 1978,caught him in NYC last February & had a ball. There's no performer like him so to menyour comment I'd off mark about performances.




Juergen187 said:

Many years ago I stopped being curious about a new Prince album, simply because his new albums kept disappointing me. Honestly, when was his last great album??? But that's ok, nobody can be so incredibly creative as he was over 20 years or so...



But we still had the live shows! In 2002, after a couple of crap albums, he returned with "the rainbow children", I wasn't into it so much, but Prince was into it! So he based a tour on it, arranged the new songs just fantastically and chose some older songs perfectly matching with his new songs. He again created a musical concept, something that worked. And he chose the right band for that music, the right stage, the right venues (smaller ones) and even the right clothes. I still have my ticket for the show in Frankfurt, a concert I'll always remember, I wished he would never stop playing...so I got my tickets for the next show in Oberhausen and even an about 200€-ebay-ticket for Zurich...money didn't matter those days, cause you could experience magic!



And now? Today and the recent years? Sometimes he still performs quite well, sometimes quite bad, and sometimes you're even happy he doesn't come back for encores. The magic sometimes has turned to pain, I can hardly stand seeing this genius of musician and live perfomer destroying his own masterpieces. But even when his performance is quite good, there is no such thing as a live musical concept, something new and thrilling. The audience senses that, and so does Prince.



And what about a stage show? Well, don't wanna remember his glorious shows in the 80`s, but seeing Shelby waving a flag during "Purple Rain" is just ridicuouls on an epic level...or Prince chasing her with a towel while she's performing "misty blue", then saying "soul music, soul music...yeah, real music by real musicians".....OMG, that sucks. stage itself is a joke too, or should we appreciate there are no disco jelly fish this time?



Then the band: Shelby is just an average soul singer, he needs her, coz he's sick of singing himself, simple as that. But what' really hard to get, that's the woman on the guitar. Prince, please visit the Philippines, a nation full of Karaoke singers and guitar players (some really good), any guitar player there will do better than Andy Allo....if she was sexy at least.....



I think there is only one chance for him to bring back the 'magic': make a reasonably good album with some kind of theme from first to last song, no need fo a masterpiece. Then mix it with older rarely performed songs to something special, choose musicians, not just instrumantelists and go bring the vibe on stages with perfect lighting and sound, and, goddamn, rehearse and soundcheck it 100 times!!! Do it, and me and many other die-hard fans will be back.....There are many Jazz musicians working hard, a hundred times a year on stage, who'd be very happy filling venues holding some 2000 people and getting their applause, because



' a little bit of something beats a whole lot of nothing '

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