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Thread started 11/26/03 12:18pm

Ardeo

just remember what thanksgiving is really about...

it's about time natives were given their recognition, after all, your just visitors on their land...

"The civil ritual we practice marginalizes Indians. Our archetypal image of the first Thanksgiving portrays the groaning boards in the woods, with the Pilgrims in their starched Sunday best next to their almost naked Indian guests. As a holiday greeting card puts it, "I is for the Indians we invited to share our food." The silliness of all this reaches its zenith in the handouts that schoolchildren have carried home for decades, complete with captions such as, "They served pumpkins and turkeys and corn and squash. The Indians had never seen such a feast!" When the Native American novelist Michael Dorris's son brought home this "information" from his New Hampshire elementary school, Dorris pointed out that "the Pilgrims had literally never seen such a feast," since all foods mentioned are exclusively indigenous to the Americas and had been provided by [or with the aid of] the local tribe.

The true history of Thanksgiving reveals embarrassing facts. The Pilgrims did not introduce the tradition; Eastern Indians had observed autumnal harvest celebrations for centuries. Although George Washington did set aside days for national thanksgiving, our modern celebrations date back only to 1863. During the Civil War, when the Union needed all the patriotism that such an observance might muster, Abraham Lincoln proclaimed Thanksgiving a national holiday. The Pilgrims had nothing to do with it; not until the 1890's did they even get included in the tradition. For that matter, no one used the term Pilgrims until the 1870's."
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Reply #1 posted 11/26/03 12:18pm

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lol



Welcome to "the org", GirlIntercepted; poom poom poom poom poom poom poom poom poom... Huh?
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Reply #2 posted 11/26/03 12:54pm

CtheUncanny

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Always something new to learn from the truths of Americas past.
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Reply #3 posted 11/26/03 1:13pm

Tom

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Wouldn't it be nice if we could just start with a clean slate and just enjoy Thanksgiving as a time of year when we get together with special people in our lives and just basically give thanks???

Practically every holdiday has some dark past that we can inflict guilt on ourselves for.

We can't change the past.

We've evolved quite a bit since then, and so has the meaning of Thanksgiving. There's not much benefit to spend each Thanksgiving mourning over our ancestors mistakes.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 26 13:20:46 PST 2003 by Tom]
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Reply #4 posted 11/26/03 1:24pm

Paisley

Thanksgiving is a time for getting together with family and friends and trying to forget about all of the mistakes we have made in the past.
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Reply #5 posted 11/26/03 1:31pm

CtheUncanny

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Tom said:

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just start with a clean slate and just enjoy Thanksgiving as a time of year when we get together with special people in our lives and just basically give thanks???

Practically every holdiday has some dark past that we can inflict guilt on ourselves for.

We can't change the past.

We've evolved quite a bit since then, and so has the meaning of Thanksgiving. There's not much benefit to spend each Thanksgiving mourning over our ancestors mistakes.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 26 13:20:46 PST 2003 by Tom]


Depends on wether you lost or gained from the past mistakes of ancestors. We have evoled only because of the memory of those past mistakes and a desire to never get duped like that again. Look into the past and get vision for the future.
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Reply #6 posted 11/26/03 1:55pm

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Tom said:

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just start with a clean slate and just enjoy Thanksgiving as a time of year when we get together with special people in our lives and just basically give thanks???

Practically every holdiday has some dark past that we can inflict guilt on ourselves for.

We can't change the past.

We've evolved quite a bit since then, and so has the meaning of Thanksgiving. There's not much benefit to spend each Thanksgiving mourning over our ancestors mistakes.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 26 13:20:46 PST 2003 by Tom]



have all the wrongs been righted?... until that happens people need to be reminded/made to feel uncomfortable
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Reply #7 posted 11/26/03 1:58pm

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Who are you all kidding, Its all about fighting with the family - Remember Avalon

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Reply #8 posted 11/26/03 2:00pm

Paisley

GirlIntercepted said:

Who are you all kidding, Its all about fighting with the family - Remember Avalon

"You Cut the Boyd without Us!"

:LOL:
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Reply #9 posted 11/26/03 2:09pm

PERSIA

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Let's call it thanks for nuttin... lol
“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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