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Reply #30 posted 05/06/16 2:45am

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728huey said:



rightbluecheek said:


weirdozmedia said:



What's crazy is that the US allows all of those companies to push their drugs so openly, I think it's one of the only countries in the world that allows those types of ads on TV. Of course our government is heavily lobbied by those same companies.



Sorry but I'd like someone to please confirm that US TV has commercials on opioid painkillers? :-O Here in Italy, and I guess all over Europe, the only ads allowed are the ones for medications that don't require a prescription.


It may very well be the case that Prince may have died from a drug overdose. Then again, maybe not. I'll wait for the final autopsy and toxicology reports to come out before I make any judgments.

I will say this, though. It's been reported that hundreds of thousands of people who take prescription medications die each year from what is described as an overdose but is really an adverse reaction to the medication being taken. Many heart patients have been suckered into taking statins for lowering cholesterol levels, but the drugs have the adverse side effect of actually weakening the heart muscle, which makes the patient even more prone to a heart attack than the high cholesterol ever did. And the newer diabetic medications which are supposed to regulate blood sguar and insulin have the adverse effect of doing damage to the liver and/or pancreas, thus leading to increased rates of cancer. And far too often these medications are prescribed as the first line of treatment instead of a more holistic approach to using less dangerous medications and dietary and lifestyle changes.

I don't know how much pain Prince was in as far as his hip is concerned, but I've known people with serious hip pain or who had their hip replaced, and they were almost always in excruitating pain. Opioid medications are often prescribed in these cases (Vicodin, Percocet, Oxycontin), but unless they are prescribed in very small and infrequent doasges, they almost always lead to some type of addiction. Unfortunately, the politicians in this country aren't very enlightened about alternative medicine in this country, and too many of them are on the receiving end of campaign donations from Big Pharma, so we don't get to use alternative treatments like cannabis oil to treat pain. (No, you do not need to smoke weed to get its medical benefits. In fact, it's more potent if ingested orally or in suppository form.) weed

I know most of you European and Canadian orgers would be flabbergasted that we have so many prescription medication commercials on television, but sadly this is far too true about the influence of Big Pharma. At any rate, why would I want to take a prescription medication when it's advertised that the side effects could include internal bleeding, liver damage, foaming at the mouth, blood coming out of the eye sockets, and/or suicidal tendencies? (Pregnant women should not take Zopatrex, as it may cause serious birth defects to the fetus including scaly skin and horns growing from esch side of the skull.)

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Thanks for the answer. I also loved this weed

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Reply #31 posted 05/06/16 7:43am

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I believe Prince was in serious pain...and I'm not talking about his hip. I believe Prince was secretly very ill. I'm still gona wait until the autopsy results are in before I say anything about drug addiction.

I agree with you. Something other than hip pain was causing him great distress. The memoir is what really leads me to believe so. I just cannot see him publishing a tell all book next year and having to answer questions about for the next 20 years. He was too private for that. Something else was wrong. [Edited 5/5/16 18:16pm]




Agreed. We need to wait for the autopsy results.... as painful as waiting may be, we need to give those that are doing the autopsy, time to do it correctly.


[Edited 5/22/16 8:37am]

RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

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Reply #32 posted 05/29/16 12:56am

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It could be MONTHS. This isn't TV.
RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

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Reply #33 posted 05/29/16 12:59am

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Reply #34 posted 05/29/16 1:18am

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mailaccount63 said: purplethunder3121 said: Addiction is addiction. This is why people who are suffering from so much physical pain and have to use perscription painkillers need oversight from responsible doctors and need to engage in pain managment practices which would include other options besides pain medication. That should be the option of last resort. But some people have to take medication. AND they should not be labelled OR crucified for having to do so....... (not mentioning any names here...... cough, cough). Thank you for posting your opinion. There is also the idea that his brain needed the meds, once your body is use to a certain dosage of ANYTHING and that same level doesn't work, there is also a mental/emotion reaction that expressed itself physically. You can be literally out of your skull and your common nature.....and that does not only apply to opiods....ask almost anybody whose been on Effexor, the withdrawl is horrible but sometimes that one is the med out of most that works most effectively. No sin in getting hooked because it's real and often not a "choice". Unless you've been through whatever he was going through (mentally/emotionally/physcially) and then the pains of withdrawl - and then the fear of not finding what will work for whatever - it is hell.
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Reply #35 posted 05/29/16 1:37am

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RiotPaisley said:


derrick31 said:
I agree with you. Something other than hip pain was causing him great distress. The memoir is what really leads me to believe so. I just cannot see him publishing a tell all book next year and having to answer questions about for the next 20 years. He was too private for that. Something else was wrong. [Edited 5/5/16 18:16pm]

I just keep going back to Vanity. I really think that shook him bad. I know he's had other loves/ women but when I heard about her I was like oh damn. Like I just instantly knew it was going to be real rough on him. I think when you love someone and you can't be with them due to circumstance, it's way harder to get over than oh they cheated or Whatever. The worst heartache is seriously just "bad timing."

That relationship with Vanity was a very long time ago. If he was badly shaken by her passing it was probably because it was a sobering reminder of his own mortality rather than any romantic feelings over an ancient love affair.



one of the articles also said he was depressed about bowie passing and was feeling stagnant in his career. and we know how much his career was important to him....it was his life.

so there were probably multiple things adding to his state of mind
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And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #36 posted 05/29/16 3:24am

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Is there a difference between physical dependence and addiction?

Yes. Addiction—or compulsive drug use despite harmful consequences—is characterized by an inability to stop using a drug; failure to meet work, social, or family obligations; and, sometimes (depending on the drug), tolerance and withdrawal. The latter reflect physical dependence in which the body adapts to the drug, requiring more of it to achieve a certain effect (tolerance) and eliciting drug-specific physical or mental symptoms if drug use is abruptly ceased (withdrawal). Physical dependence can happen with the chronic use of many drugs—including many prescription drugs, even if taken as instructed. Thus, physical dependence in and of itself does not constitute addiction, but it often accompanies addiction. This distinction can be dificult to discern, particularly with prescribed pain medications, for which the need for increasing dosages can represent tolerance or a worsening underlying problem, as opposed to the beginning of abuse or addiction.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/principles-drug-addiction-treatment-research-based-guide-third-edition/frequently-asked-questions/there-difference-between-physical-dependence

And this, http://www.healthcentral....8-5_2.html

Following are some of the key differences between addicts and pain patients:

Addicts Pain Patients
Addicts take drugs to get high and avoid life Pain patients take drugs to function normally and get on with life.
Addicts isolate themselves and become lost to their families. When pain patients get adequate relief, they become active members of their families.
Addicts are unable to interact appropriately with society. When pain patients get adequate relief, they interact with and make positive contributions to society.
Addicts are eventually unable to hold down a job. When pain patients get adequate relief, they are often able to go back to work.
The life on an addict is a continuous downward spiral.

When a pain patient gets adequate relief, their life progresses in a positive, upward direction.


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Reply #37 posted 05/29/16 4:13am

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It is all semantics and how you want to use the word "addiction". Most people would say if you have a physical dependency on a drug, then you are addicted. Languate is incredible imperfect and is abused all the time, especially by the news media.

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