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Reply #90 posted 11/21/15 8:37am

NorthC

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I'd have never thought Clint Eastwood would become an all-time great director. But boy did he.




I thought Unforgiven was excellent.


I thought so too until I started to do some reading about the Wild West and I found out that cowboys just DID NOT treat women like that! Just because they were always out in the open riding behind those cows, when they finally did meet a woman, even a prostitute, they were nothing if not admiring and repectful. And even if a cowboy mistreated a woman, there's no way his compadres would have protected him. They'd be the first ones to shoot him!
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Reply #91 posted 11/21/15 9:12am

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Ace said:


I thought Unforgiven was excellent.

I thought so too until I started to do some reading about the Wild West and I found out that cowboys just DID NOT treat women like that! Just because they were always out in the open riding behind those cows, when they finally did meet a woman, even a prostitute, they were nothing if not admiring and repectful. And even if a cowboy mistreated a woman, there's no way his compadres would have protected him. They'd be the first ones to shoot him!


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Reply #92 posted 11/21/15 9:14am

EmmaMcG

NorthC said:

Ace said:



namepeace said:





I'd have never thought Clint Eastwood would become an all-time great director. But boy did he.




I thought Unforgiven was excellent.


I thought so too until I started to do some reading about the Wild West and I found out that cowboys just DID NOT treat women like that! Just because they were always out in the open riding behind those cows, when they finally did meet a woman, even a prostitute, they were nothing if not admiring and repectful. And even if a cowboy mistreated a woman, there's no way his compadres would have protected him. They'd be the first ones to shoot him!



Just watched this movie for the first time last night. Wow. Incredible. Who cares if it's historically accurate? It's still a brilliant movie.
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Reply #93 posted 11/21/15 9:16am

Ace

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NorthC said:
I thought so too until I started to do some reading about the Wild West and I found out that cowboys just DID NOT treat women like that! Just because they were always out in the open riding behind those cows, when they finally did meet a woman, even a prostitute, they were nothing if not admiring and repectful. And even if a cowboy mistreated a woman, there's no way his compadres would have protected him. They'd be the first ones to shoot him!
Just watched this movie for the first time last night. Wow. Incredible. Who cares if it's historically accurate? It's still a brilliant movie.


"We all got it comin', kid."

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Reply #94 posted 11/21/15 9:39am

NorthC

Oh, a movie doesn't have to be historically accurate to be good. I also like Inglourious Basterds! But the thing with Unforgiven is that it was portrayed as a realistic western. And I'm sorry to say, it isn't. But it was another chapter in the myth of the Wild West. First, the gunman was portrayed as a hero, now he's portrayed as a human being who makes mistakes and all that. In that respect, it's a good film. But it's no more realistic than The Good The Bad and The Ugly or Stagecoach or High Noon or Dances with Wolves.. All these films are about the myth of the Wild West, not the reality.
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Reply #95 posted 11/21/15 9:42am

Ace

NorthC said:

But it was another chapter in the myth of the Wild West. First, the gunman was portrayed as a hero, now he's portrayed as a human being who makes miatakes and all that. In that respect, it's a good film.


yeahthat

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Reply #96 posted 11/21/15 10:00am

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Brief Encounter. Early David Lean based on a one-act play by Noel Coward. (Coward also wrote the screenplay.) Brilliantly acted by Trevor Howard and Celia Johnson.



Yes. One of my favorites!

Just didn't pop into my head. wink
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Reply #97 posted 11/21/15 2:44pm

NorthC

214 said:

What's so great about Pulp Fiction? i tried to watch it but did not understand the hype about it.


1) the dialogue. After the success of Reservoir Dogs, QT went to Europe. And it showed in the dialogues of Pulp Fiction.
"You know what the Dutch put on their French fries instead of ketchup? Mayonaise. I've seen 'em do it man, they fuckin' drown 'em in that shit."
It's true. We do. We think it's the most normal thing in the world to eat fries with mayo, but, apparently, Americans don't think so and QT noticed that. And a great observer is a great writer.
2) the clever way in which he weaved three or four stories into one.
3) the way he showed violence. It happens mostly by accident. Jules shoots a guy lying on the couch and says,"Oh sorry, did I break your concentration?". The matter-of-fact way violence is shown in this film is the pefect illustration of how professional killers look at human lives: they don't give a shit.
4) the actors. We've got Uma Thurman (and I really did believe her hair was black!), Bruce Willis, Christopher Walken, Harvey Keitel... Hell, this film even made John Travolta hip again!
Finally, the music! Kool and the Gang, Dick Dale, Chuck Berry, Dusty Springfield...
Oh, and another thing, this film shows that, for better or for worse, people use drugs. And the film is not moralistic about it.
All in all, this film sums up "pop" culture better than any other film ever did.
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Reply #98 posted 11/21/15 4:15pm

EmmaMcG

NorthC said:

214 said:

What's so great about Pulp Fiction? i tried to watch it but did not understand the hype about it.


1) the dialogue. After the success of Reservoir Dogs, QT went to Europe. And it showed in the dialogues of Pulp Fiction.
"You know what the Dutch put on their French fries instead of ketchup? Mayonaise. I've seen 'em do it man, they fuckin' drown 'em in that shit."
It's true. We do. We think it's the most normal thing in the world to eat fries with mayo, but, apparently, Americans don't think so and QT noticed that. And a great observer is a great writer.
2) the clever way in which he weaved three or four stories into one.
3) the way he showed violence. It happens mostly by accident. Jules shoots a guy lying on the couch and says,"Oh sorry, did I break your concentration?". The matter-of-fact way violence is shown in this film is the pefect illustration of how professional killers look at human lives: they don't give a shit.
4) the actors. We've got Uma Thurman (and I really did believe her hair was black!), Bruce Willis, Christopher Walken, Harvey Keitel... Hell, this film even made John Travolta hip again!
Finally, the music! Kool and the Gang, Dick Dale, Chuck Berry, Dusty Springfield...
Oh, and another thing, this film shows that, for better or for worse, people use drugs. And the film is not moralistic about it.
All in all, this film sums up "pop" culture better than any other film ever did.
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I agree with most of this. The music, the acting, the dialogue, all great. Even Uma Thurman, who I really can't stand, was decent. Personally, I think Tarantino can go a little overboard with his whole "aren't I cool" style but here it was before it got tiresome. I still think Reservoir Dogs was better though. Better performances, better dialogue, better story. Of course, that's just my opinion.
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Reply #99 posted 11/21/15 4:50pm

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Cinema Paradiso

Because it's a movie about the joy of movies. Also about the silliness of censorship. It perfectly captures what it's like to be young, and what it's like to be old. The passage of time and remembering old friends. Giving a gift to someone you love.

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Reply #100 posted 11/22/15 3:25pm

214

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214 said:

I loved the last Woody's film Blue Jazmine.


Actually, there've been two since then (Magic in the Moonlight and Irrational Man). geek

I meant the last i saw from him, of course. cool cool

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Reply #101 posted 11/22/15 3:32pm

214

I loved DJango Unchained, very entertaining.

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Reply #102 posted 11/22/15 4:03pm

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Pulp Fiction or Do the Right Thing prolly Pulp. Just brilliantly written shot etc. Special mention to Girl 6, not just 4 hippin me 2 Princey love popcorn.
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Reply #103 posted 11/22/15 4:13pm

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Always a tough question to answer, though Easy Rider seems to be my most frequent default.

I'd always dug the film as a sort of picturesque homage to the turbulent 1960s United States. A friend of mine, though, once challenged me to rewatch it intently as an oblique gospel narrative that indicts the whole of contemporary society -- only this time also including the broken counterculture championed by Peter Fonda's "Christ" character, Wyatt.

I found my friend's insight fascinating... yet a bit reaching. Sure enough, though, co-writer Dennis Hopper (who identified as agnostic during the film's making) eventually shared that at least parts of Easy Rider were inspired by early Christian gospel writings, including the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas. Beautifully layered, culturally literate stuff.

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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #104 posted 11/22/15 4:16pm

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Hamad said:


Contains one of my favorite lines of all time ('Not if my ambition's to get high and watch TV!' lol).


Also one of my favourite lines: "AK-47, the very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every MFer in the room, accept no substitutes!" lol

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #105 posted 11/22/15 4:41pm

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2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968) Watched for the first time alone in the dark at home on laser disc in the early 90s. Made such an impact on my young psyche that I was grasping for the lights at the mere hint of a credit roll. I felt an all-knowing presence everywhere and insecurely hoped that the light would somehow obscure my awe over this partially spilt insight into existence. Never mind that this film was already 25 years old and seen by millions, for a brief few in that dark it seemed as perplexing and revelatory as an uncharted top secret whispered only to you. I instantly became a film buff and Stanley Kubrick became my favorite thinker/filmmaker. Later saw "Seven Samurai" by Akira Kurosawa and started to grapple further with the epic enormity of this planet's intimacy.


I see people crap on 2001: A Space Odyssey as overrated these days, but I also really respect it in the same vein that you do. I don't see it as particularly revelatory, but I love its audacity to be one of the earliest cinematic science fiction works to take on such big, existential questions.

Have you ever come across the theory that Kubrick intended the film screen itself to be a monolith, situated horizontally? According to the idea, it's why we hear the signature drone sound through the intermission between acts II and III... and why following that intermission, we viewers are evolutionarily advanced enough to go on the cosmic journey of Act III.

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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #106 posted 11/22/15 6:13pm

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Not sure a favorite but my favorite are Purple Rain,up in smoke,Friday,Halloween,and cruel intentions .Also "perks of being a wallflower " is a great movie.it almost made me cry
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Reply #107 posted 11/22/15 6:22pm

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^ Nice dreams was just on. I'm sorryyy falloff
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Reply #108 posted 11/22/15 6:25pm

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I love Friday but Next Friday is another favorite. Wait til i tell Baby d she gon fuck u up! lol
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Reply #109 posted 11/22/15 6:47pm

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purplepolitician said:

^ Nice dreams was just on. I'm sorryyy falloff

Lol yeah nice dreams is really funny .especially the part with cheech being naked on the elevator
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Reply #110 posted 11/22/15 6:56pm

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Lammastide said:



Brendan said:


2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968) Watched for the first time alone in the dark at home on laser disc in the early 90s. Made such an impact on my young psyche that I was grasping for the lights at the mere hint of a credit roll. I felt an all-knowing presence everywhere and insecurely hoped that the light would somehow obscure my awe over this partially spilt insight into existence. Never mind that this film was already 25 years old and seen by millions, for a brief few in that dark it seemed as perplexing and revelatory as an uncharted top secret whispered only to you. I instantly became a film buff and Stanley Kubrick became my favorite thinker/filmmaker. Later saw "Seven Samurai" by Akira Kurosawa and started to grapple further with the epic enormity of this planet's intimacy.


I see people crap on 2001: A Space Odyssey as overrated these days, but I also really respect it in the same vein that you do. I don't see it as particularly revelatory, but I love its audacity to be one of the earliest cinematic science fiction works to take on such big, existential questions.

Have you ever come across the theory that Kubrick intended the film screen itself to be a monolith, situated horizontally? According to the idea, it's why we hear the signature drone sound through the intermission between acts II and III... and why following that intermission, we viewers are evolutionarily advanced enough to go on the cosmic journey of Act III.

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It was also heavily criticized upon release. Always polarizing. That's what gets my curiosity piqued the most.

It's 47 years old already. It has almost become "Citizen Kane" to me. Not above criticism. Nothing ever is. It's just that at this point uncovering the key that would unlock a totally different slant is fading beyond even an electron microscope's reach.

But hopefully I'm always listening anyway, and correcting my own countless messes.

--

And I hadn't heard that theory before. Makes a whole lot of sense. He thinks that deeply. Even if it's not completely true, it makes complete sense; adds another tiny layer of understanding.

Thank you!
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Reply #111 posted 11/24/15 6:21am

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Brendan said:

Lammastide said:


I see people crap on 2001: A Space Odyssey as overrated these days, but I also really respect it in the same vein that you do. I don't see it as particularly revelatory, but I love its audacity to be one of the earliest cinematic science fiction works to take on such big, existential questions.

Have you ever come across the theory that Kubrick intended the film screen itself to be a monolith, situated horizontally? According to the idea, it's why we hear the signature drone sound through the intermission between acts II and III... and why following that intermission, we viewers are evolutionarily advanced enough to go on the cosmic journey of Act III.

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It was also heavily criticized upon release. Always polarizing. That's what gets my curiosity piqued the most. It's 47 years old already. It has almost become "Citizen Kane" to me. Not above criticism. Nothing ever is. It's just that at this point uncovering the key that would unlock a totally different slant is fading beyond even an electron microscope's reach. But hopefully I'm always listening anyway, and correcting my own countless messes. -- And I hadn't heard that theory before. Makes a whole lot of sense. He thinks that deeply. Even if it's not completely true, it makes complete sense; adds another tiny layer of understanding. Thank you!



Entirely useless, but I thought you might get a kick out of this. It's every frame of 2001 compressed into a barcode. geek



You can find a bunch more films here: http://moviebarcode.tumblr.com/

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Reply #112 posted 11/24/15 7:53am

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Ace said:

Genesia said:

Brief Encounter. Early David Lean based on a one-act play by Noel Coward. (Coward also wrote the screenplay.) Brilliantly acted by Trevor Howard and Celia Johnson.


Genesia! wave


wave back atcha, Ace!

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Reply #113 posted 11/24/15 9:38am

Empress

I don't think I could pick just one favorite movie. I've seen so many great movies over the years.

Scarface - Pacino

Casablanca

Gone with the Wind

The Godfather

Midnight in Paris

The Color Purple

Dog Day Afternoon

Now Voyager

Life of Pi

Some Like it Hot

The Wizard of Oz

Just to name a few.

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Reply #114 posted 11/24/15 11:15am

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namepeace said:

sexton said:

I'm not a big fan of Mafia movies, but I will acknowledge The Godfather as one of the best films I've ever seen. I preferred it over The Godfather Part II which I felt, while still a very good movie, dragged a little with the flashback sequences. I know I'm in the minority with that opinion.

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I've heard fans and critics claim that neither I nor II were truly "Mafia" movies. There's some truth to that, as they play out like Greek tragedies.



They are definitely Mafia movies. I suppose some people would say they aren't because they think that particular descriptor is too limiting and the Godfather movies are bigger than that--which indeed they are. But they are still Mafia movies.

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Reply #115 posted 11/24/15 12:26pm

214

I saw for the very first time Schindler List, is a very fgood movie but for me not that great.

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Reply #116 posted 11/24/15 1:27pm

EmmaMcG

Another movie I would consider among my favourites is Ghostbusters. It's one of those rare comedy films where everyone involved was on top form. And whereas it's easy to say how good Bill Murray is in it, and he was brilliant, I don't think Dan Ackroyd or Harold Ramis should be overlooked. A genius triple act, with the added bonus of Rick Moranis on top form and the Marshmallow Man!! Classic.
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Reply #117 posted 11/24/15 2:12pm

NorthC

Dan Ackroyd? James Belushi! You just made me think of the Blues Brothers! I remember that when I was in what the Americans call high school and that film was on TV. And you have to remember that in the 1980s, we only had two TV stations in Holland. So a TV program or film reached much more people than it does today. It became a cult thing. Everybody Needs Somebody to Love even made it into the Dutch charts. And there were even two guys walking around at school dressed as the Blues Brothers. And at the same time Terence Trent d'Arby had his debut album out. I think this little Dutch boy's fascination with blues and soul started there, even if I didn't realize it yet. Everybody I knew loved that movie, even if it did not mean they all became James Brown or Aretha Franklin or John Lee Hooker fans. But I did...
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Reply #118 posted 11/24/15 2:32pm

EmmaMcG

NorthC said:

Dan Ackroyd? James Belushi! You just made me think of the Blues Brothers! I remember that when I was in what the Americans call high school and that film was on TV. And you have to remember that in the 1980s, we only had two TV stations in Holland. So a TV program or film reached much more people than it does today. It became a cult thing. Everybody Needs Somebody to Love even made it into the Dutch charts. And there were even two guys walking around at school dressed as the Blues Brothers. And at the same time Terence Trent d'Arby had his debut album out. I think this little Dutch boy's fascination with blues and soul started there, even if I didn't realize it yet. Everybody I knew loved that movie, even if it did not mean they all became James Brown or Aretha Franklin or John Lee Hooker fans. But I did...
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Yeah, I love that film. Only seen it for the first time about a year ago. Was it not john Belushi though? I always mix them up so I don't know...
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Reply #119 posted 11/24/15 7:01pm

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Lammastide said:

Ace said:


Contains one of my favorite lines of all time ('Not if my ambition's to get high and watch TV!' lol).


Also one of my favourite lines: "AK-47, the very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every MFer in the room, accept no substitutes!" lol

Yep, every character that Sam L. Jackson played in QT's films is pretty much quotable cool

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