SeventeenDayze said:

Are people who are unmarried and without kids considered by most in society to be losers? I wonder if in some cases people who are tied down are perhaps a bit envious of those who aren't tied down. What do you guys think? I'm unmarried and don't have kids, so does that make me a loser or winner in the long run?

Neither. If you lead a happy, fulfilling life, you're a winner in this world. You don't have to do what everybody else does if it doesn't make you happy.

I like being married, and the feeling that there is someone in this world who has my back no matter what happens. It's more valuable to me than my desire for total freedom. At the same time, I know people who enjoy their single lives and make the most of it. They don't want to be responsible for someone else's needs and desires. Maybe they have some lonely nights and maybe I have some times where it would be nice to act completely selfishly or have some more wild adventures. But if we're all happy at the end of the day we all win.

I have never especially wanted kids and feel that the only people that should have them are the ones who do really want them are prepared to commit to them. I'm happy not havng them, other friends of mine say it's the best thing they ever did in their lives. Hopefully we are all happy with our own choices.

So no you're definitely not "a loser" for being in your situation. If something is making you unhappy, do what you can to change it. Otherwise, live life to the fullest.

bobzilla77 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Are people who are unmarried and without kids considered by most in society to be losers? I wonder if in some cases people who are tied down are perhaps a bit envious of those who aren't tied down. What do you guys think? I'm unmarried and don't have kids, so does that make me a loser or winner in the long run?

Neither. If you lead a happy, fulfilling life, you're a winner in this world. You don't have to do what everybody else does if it doesn't make you happy.

I like being married, and the feeling that there is someone in this world who has my back no matter what happens. It's more valuable to me than my desire for total freedom. At the same time, I know people who enjoy their single lives and make the most of it. They don't want to be responsible for someone else's needs and desires. Maybe they have some lonely nights and maybe I have some times where it would be nice to act completely selfishly or have some more wild adventures. But if we're all happy at the end of the day we all win.

I have never especially wanted kids and feel that the only people that should have them are the ones who do really want them are prepared to commit to them. I'm happy not havng them, other friends of mine say it's the best thing they ever did in their lives. Hopefully we are all happy with our own choices.

So no you're definitely not "a loser" for being in your situation. If something is making you unhappy, do what you can to change it. Otherwise, live life to the fullest.

Thanks for the encouragement. How long were you single before getting married and how long have you been married now? I often wonder if people who marry relatively later in life have better marriages because of the life experience that they bring to the table.

I sommersaulted today

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Unmarried & No Sex

quite the party...

JoeTyler said:

Unmarried & No Sex

quite the party...

Some marry just for the sex.Welcome 2 da club.

iaminparties said:

JoeTyler said:

Unmarried & No Sex

quite the party...

Some marry just for the sex.Welcome 2 da club.

others embrace prostitution. Welcome 2 da club.

JoeTyler said:

iaminparties said:

Some marry just for the sex.Welcome 2 da club.

others embrace prostitution. Welcome 2 da club.

Could be cheaper in the long run.

Don't you play both sides of the fence?It should be easier

I haven't been to Backpage in awhile.I should check to see what's up.

iaminparties said:

JoeTyler said:

others embrace prostitution. Welcome 2 da club.

Don't you play both sides of the fence?

do you mean what I think you mean?

JoeTyler said:

iaminparties said:

Don't you play both sides of the fence?

do you mean what I think you mean?

yeah

iaminparties said:

JoeTyler said:

do you mean what I think you mean?

yeah

what did you mean?

JoeTyler said:

iaminparties said:

yeah

what did you mean?

Im too polite,anywho,any hot ladies on Backpage?

iaminparties said:

JoeTyler said:

what did you mean?

Im too polite,anywho,any hot ladies on Backpage?

don't know what backpage is...

JoeTyler said:

iaminparties said:

Im too polite,anywho,any hot ladies on Backpage?

don't know what backpage is...

It's a better Craigslist,much better.

iaminparties said:

JoeTyler said:

don't know what backpage is...

It's a better Craigslist,much better.

I ignore those sites, if I need sex, I go elsewhere...you know what I mean...

Joe and Iamin, I think you guys need to start a new thread

SeventeenDayze said:

Joe and Iamin, I think you guys need to start a new thread

Would you join us?

Thanks for the encouragement. How long were you single before getting married and how long have you been married now? I often wonder if people who marry relatively later in life have better marriages because of the life experience that they bring to the table.

I started dating my wife when we were both about 30. And that was 16 years ago. My first marriage, her second.

I think it was helpful for me, that I had a pretty wild 20s and started going out with her right at the point I was kind of ready to settle down. I'd spent 10 years as a struggling musician, constantly on tour, then coming home broke and scraping for money. It's hard to keep a relationship going through all that, especially all my travelling. But I was on a mission, and I really was dedicated to it, and if my relationships suffered then so be it. I didn't bring a lot to the table, girlfriend-wise, during that time.

But having done all that for 10 years, it was not that hard to step away from it and get into a more normal life routine once I fell in love. I still play music, make records and play shows, just not so much of an obsession but a part of my life I keep in balance with my marriage and job. I wouldn't have been ready to do that in my 20s.

bobzilla77 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Are people who are unmarried and without kids considered by most in society to be losers? I wonder if in some cases people who are tied down are perhaps a bit envious of those who aren't tied down. What do you guys think? I'm unmarried and don't have kids, so does that make me a loser or winner in the long run?

Neither. If you lead a happy, fulfilling life, you're a winner in this world. You don't have to do what everybody else does if it doesn't make you happy.

I like being married, and the feeling that there is someone in this world who has my back no matter what happens. It's more valuable to me than my desire for total freedom. At the same time, I know people who enjoy their single lives and make the most of it. They don't want to be responsible for someone else's needs and desires. Maybe they have some lonely nights and maybe I have some times where it would be nice to act completely selfishly or have some more wild adventures. But if we're all happy at the end of the day we all win.

I have never especially wanted kids and feel that the only people that should have them are the ones who do really want them are prepared to commit to them. I'm happy not havng them, other friends of mine say it's the best thing they ever did in their lives. Hopefully we are all happy with our own choices.

So no you're definitely not "a loser" for being in your situation. If something is making you unhappy, do what you can to change it. Otherwise, live life to the fullest.

that's the way i see it too. 'winning' is simply being happy, trying your best to be a good person and learning a bit each day. doesn't have to be complicated and you can choose your own path there

SeventeenDayze said:

Joe and Iamin, I think you guys need to start a new thread

what do you mean?

JoeTyler said:

iaminparties said:

Don't you play both sides of the fence?

do you mean what I think you mean?

that you're a hooker?

ZombieKitten said:

JoeTyler said:

do you mean what I think you mean?

that you're a hooker?

I think he meant that, yes

JoeTyler said:

ZombieKitten said:

that you're a hooker?

I think he meant that, yes

I think he means you're bi - double the opportunities

ZombieKitten said:

JoeTyler said:

I think he meant that, yes

I think he means you're bi - double the opportunities

is not that easy, but ok

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JoeTyler said:

ZombieKitten said:

I think he means you're bi - double the opportunities

is not that easy, but ok

I'm 51, never married, no kids and no regrets. I see people who are tied down with kids who go to bed at 8:30pm every night. Sad.

7thday said:

I'm 51, never married, no kids and no regrets. I see people who are tied down with kids who go to bed at 8:30pm every night. Sad.

That's cool! What time do you go to bed?

7thday said:

I recently bought a loose stone, and emerald of decent quality (over 6 carats) for a ring. I have always wanted an emerald ring, but decided long ago to have one made because I want to design a perfect ring for me.

So I showed my mom the stone and she says... "Oh, is that for your engagement ring?"

No bitch, why would I purchase a stone for my engagement??? WTF? This bitch.

I said: "No, its for a ring I always wanted."

I absolutely will NOT miss her when she's dead. I mean that.

paintedlady said:

paintedlady said: