babynoz said:

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

It's a sad reality for Steeler Nation but I must agree...it's time.

The Browns? Seriously?

Imma hide in this thread 'cuz I know 2freaky is coming for me.

Trust me you don't. They haven't won a playoff game since Bush Sr. was in the White House. I wouldn't even waste time talking shit to a Bengals fan.

728huey said:

babynoz said:

It's a sad reality for Steeler Nation but I must agree...it's time.

The Browns? Seriously?

Imma hide in this thread 'cuz I know 2freaky is coming for me.

I'm a fan of DA BEARS, but I've always admired the Steelers as a class organization. I actually like Mike Tomlin as a coach, but I liked Lovie Smith too, yet I knew he eventually had to go because he could only take my Bears so far. Jon Gruden won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay, but that didn't stop him from getting fired six years later after they just missed the playoffs on the last day of the regular season. Like you said, thanks for the memories, but maybe its time for the Steelers to start over ala the Indianapolis Colts after Peyton Manning.

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Lovie is setting Tampa on Fire..............

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said:

Fire Tomlin, LeBeau, and Haley right now!!!!! This season is over. I don't even think they will make 8-8 this year and more than likely fall to 4th place in the AFC North.

Unbelievable. We have Big Ben, LeVeon Bell,Blount,Heath Miller, Antonio Brown, and Marcus Wheaton in the 4th qtr against a beat up Browns defense and I'm sitting here with 3 damn points. You gotta be shitting me. I'm done with this coaching staff. Thanks for the memories Tomlin and LeBeau but your time is up.

The Steelers don't operate that way when it comes to coaches....look at all the playoff disappointments Cowher had yet he kept his job.

My Giants got their asses handed to them on BOTH sides of the ball. Now Cruz is done for the year......shit shit shit!

uPtoWnNY said:

uPtoWnNY said:

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said: Unbelievable. We have Big Ben, LeVeon Bell,Blount,Heath Miller, Antonio Brown, and Marcus Wheaton in the 4th qtr against a beat up Browns defense and I'm sitting here with 3 damn points. You gotta be shitting me. I'm done with this coaching staff. Thanks for the memories Tomlin and LeBeau but your time is up.

The Steelers don't operate that way when it comes to coaches....

look at all the playoff disappointments Cowher had yet he kept his job.

My Giants got their asses handed to them on BOTH sides of the ball. Now Cruz is done for the year......shit shit shit!

At least Cowher was taking them to the playoffs, Tomlin (and the rest of the coaching staff) is taking them out of them.

Graycap23 said:

Cutler haters

Seriously?

uPtoWnNY said:

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said: Unbelievable. We have Big Ben, LeVeon Bell,Blount,Heath Miller, Antonio Brown, and Marcus Wheaton in the 4th qtr against a beat up Browns defense and I'm sitting here with 3 damn points. You gotta be shitting me. I'm done with this coaching staff. Thanks for the memories Tomlin and LeBeau but your time is up.

The Steelers don't operate that way when it comes to coaches....look at all the playoff disappointments Cowher had yet he kept his job.

My Giants got their asses handed to them on BOTH sides of the ball. Now Cruz is done for the year......shit shit shit!

The Rooneys have always operated the Steeler Nation as a family but even that model has it's limits. I believe they will do everything possible to go forward with the personnel we have but if push comes to shove...

Poor Victor Cruz made me wanna cry too,

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

Cutler haters

Seriously?

I have 2 have some fun with this. The media and fans want 2 run the guy out of town. I like Cutler, faults and all.

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Seriously?

I have 2 have some fun with this. The media and fans want 2 run the guy out of town. I like Cutler, faults and all.

Me and TD3 had this discussion at the beginning of the season. The talent is set up for Cutler

to win now. No excuses. I gave up after the Green Bay debacle and losing to Carolina. I guess there is still a good

bit of football left but I wouldn't bet the house on Cutler.

Yeah I can understand you liking Cutler considering the Bears have struggled with qb's since

the days of Jim McMahon.

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Graycap23 said:

Cutler haters

I'm pretty sure the Steelers has never won against Culter, even during his Denver years

Honestly after looking at the Steelers remaining schedule, if they play like how they have been playing I think they will finish 3-13. The last victory was against the last place Jaguars and the offense could only score 10 points.

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

I have 2 have some fun with this. The media and fans want 2 run the guy out of town. I like Cutler, faults and all.

Me and TD3 had this discussion at the beginning of the season. The talent is set up for Cutler

to win now. No excuses. I gave up after the Green Bay debacle and losing to Carolina. I guess there is still a good

bit of football left but I wouldn't bet the house on Cutler.

Yeah I can understand you liking Cutler considering the Bears have struggled with qb's since

the days of Jim McMahon.

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I don't understand how people overlook the weak defense and special teams. Why does Cutler take the haet 4 thier poor performances?

babynoz said:

uPtoWnNY said:

The Steelers don't operate that way when it comes to coaches....look at all the playoff disappointments Cowher had yet he kept his job.

My Giants got their asses handed to them on BOTH sides of the ball. Now Cruz is done for the year......shit shit shit!

The Rooneys have always operated the Steeler Nation as a family but even that model has it's limits. I believe they will do everything possible to go forward with the personnel we have but if push comes to shove...

Poor Victor Cruz made me wanna cry too,

I still say the Steelers' problems have to do with miscues by the front office more than coaching. You can see it on the field...they don't have the talent they used to have, especially on defense.

After the way they were dominated in Philly, I'm nervous as fuck about the Giants heaing into Dallas. Cowboys are legit if that o-line keeps doing their thing.

uPtoWnNY said:

babynoz said:

The Rooneys have always operated the Steeler Nation as a family but even that model has it's limits. I believe they will do everything possible to go forward with the personnel we have but if push comes to shove...

Poor Victor Cruz made me wanna cry too,

I still say the Steelers' problems have to do with miscues by the front office more than coaching. You can see it on the field...they don't have the talent they used to have, especially on defense.

After the way they were dominated in Philly, I'm nervous as fuck about the Giants heaing into Dallas. Cowboys are legit if that o-line keeps doing their thing.

It's a combination of both

Graycap23 said:

kpowers said:

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't understand how people overlook the weak defense and special teams. Why does Cutler take the haet 4 thier poor performances?

You right to an extent. I expected a little more from Jared Allen up front. Losing Tillman for the season didn't help the defense either. Cutler just seems to always throw that untimely interception.

Is there such a thing as a timely interception?

Cutler makes mistakes but folks always underplay the defense, special teams and bad coaching. He really is in a no win situation. Football at the NFL level is a true team sport. U are only as strong as your weakest link. If your Defense and Special teams is ranked at the bottom of the NFL, it soesn't matter what your QB does.

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said: You right to an extent. I expected a little more from Jared Allen up front. Losing Tillman for the season didn't help the defense either. Cutler just seems to always throw that untimely interception.

Is there such a thing as a timely interception?

Cutler makes mistakes but folks always underplay the defense, special teams and bad coaching. He really is in a no win situation. Football at the NFL level is a true team sport. U are only as strong as your weakest link. If your Defense and Special teams is ranked at the bottom of the NFL, it soesn't matter what your QB does.

Yes. When you throw one on the other side of the field and your opponent gets it inside there ten. It equates to a punt.

Seriously you are right it is a team sport but your field general can't hurt

the team with turnovers. His qbr is good this year but when you throw picks into the middle of the defense when your receivers are covered that's when your judgement is questioned. The bottom line is he has only been to the playoffs once in his entire NFL career and he is the most talented qb the Bears have had in years that speaks volumes. It does matter what your qb does because even with a weak defense Chicago has the talent on offense to outscore most opposing teams. They proved it against the 49ers.

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

Is there such a thing as a timely interception?

Cutler makes mistakes but folks always underplay the defense, special teams and bad coaching. He really is in a no win situation. Football at the NFL level is a true team sport. U are only as strong as your weakest link. If your Defense and Special teams is ranked at the bottom of the NFL, it soesn't matter what your QB does.

Yes. When you throw one on the other side of the field and your opponent gets it inside there ten. It equates to a punt.

Seriously you are right it is a team sport but your field general can't hurt

the team with turnovers. His qbr is good this year but when you throw picks into the middle of the defense when your receivers are covered that's when your judgement is questioned. The bottom line is he has only been to the playoffs once in his entire NFL career and he is the most talented qb the Bears have had in years that speaks volumes. It does matter what your qb does because even with a weak defense Chicago has the talent on offense to outscore most opposing teams. They proved it against the 49ers.

I agree with all of your points. i guess I'm just worn down with the negative repsonse 2 Cutty while there are more glaring issues on the team.

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said:

It's a combination of both

It definitely is. The guy buying the grocery(Colbert)is making terrible personnel decisions.Just point to this past draft when the team badly needed a CB and they decided on taking 5'7" little Dri Archer and his phantom speed in the 3rd round. The 2004 draft class that Ben came from he is the lone remaining survivor. Ricardo Colclough 2nd round bust. Max Starks was the only other contributor from that class. 2008 produced those draft gems Mendenhall and Limas Sweed. Mendy had 2 good seasons but I think he fell victim to fan pressure. Haley needs to be the first to go then Colbert after the season but I doubt if the Rooneys cut Colbert loose.

I think LeBeau needs to go first. Oh Limas Sweed, I try to forget about that guy

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said:

It's a combination of both

It definitely is. The guy buying the grocery(Colbert)is making terrible personnel decisions.Just point to this past draft when the team badly needed a CB and they decided on taking 5'7" little Dri Archer and his phantom speed in the 3rd round. The 2004 draft class that Ben came from he is the lone remaining survivor. Ricardo Colclough 2nd round bust. Max Starks was the only other contributor from that class. 2008 produced those draft gems Mendenhall and Limas Sweed. Mendy had 2 good seasons but I think he fell victim to fan pressure. Haley needs to be the first to go then Colbert after the season but I doubt if the Rooneys cut Colbert loose.

If Haley is fired does that mean he's the new head coach of the Arizona Cardinals??

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said:

Win one lose one, another 8-8 season

Cortez Allen sucks donkey balls. He needs to be benched immediately. Terrible cornerback. Beachum had a bad game at LT. Bench Jason Worlids too. Absolutely zero pass rush from this guy. He doesn't even sniff the qb. Try Brice McCain at CB for Cortez. What is there to lose?

Well Cortez Allen is now benched and that's 26 million down the drain

Cortez Allen is no longer a starter, just a few months removed from a five-year, $26 million contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau confirmed that free-agent pickup Brice McCain will start over Allen this week versus the Houston Texans.

The move is not a shock for anyone that has watched Allen play this year. He's been picked on mercilessly, and gave up a number of big plays last week against Cleveland. Pro Football Focus ranks Allen dead last among all cornerbacks in 2014.

"Sometimes, there are ups and downs out there. I have great confidence that heâll fight himself through this and be a very strong player," LeBeau said.

Allen was also benched for a stretch of play last season and seems like a player that can struggle with his confidence at times. When things are going well, he can inspire his bosses to pay him long-term money. When things start going poorly, he crumbles. Unfortunately, that's been too typical for a Steelers defense that no longer does anything well, no matter who is to blame.

kpowers said:

phunkdaddy said:

kpowers said: Cortez Allen sucks donkey balls. He needs to be benched immediately. Terrible cornerback. Beachum had a bad game at LT. Bench Jason Worlids too. Absolutely zero pass rush from this guy. He doesn't even sniff the qb. Try Brice McCain at CB for Cortez. What is there to lose?

Well Cortez Allen is now benched and that's 26 million down the drain

Pittsburgh Steelers bench Cortez Allen; McCain to start

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• By Gregg Rosenthal
• Around The NFL Editor
• Published: Oct. 17, 2014 at 10:32 a.m.
• Updated: Oct. 17, 2014 at 05:00 p.m.

Cortez Allen is no longer a starter, just a few months removed from a five-year, $26 million contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau confirmed that free-agent pickup Brice McCain will start over Allen this week versus the Houston Texans.

The move is not a shock for anyone that has watched Allen play this year. He's been picked on mercilessly, and gave up a number of big plays last week against Cleveland. Pro Football Focus ranks Allen dead last among all cornerbacks in 2014.

"Sometimes, there are ups and downs out there. I have great confidence that heâll fight himself through this and be a very strong player," LeBeau said.

Allen was also benched for a stretch of play last season and seems like a player that can struggle with his confidence at times. When things are going well, he can inspire his bosses to pay him long-term money. When things start going poorly, he crumbles. Unfortunately, that's been too typical for a Steelers defense that no longer does anything well, no matter who is to blame.

A steeler buddy of mine told me this earlier tonight.

Now if they will just bench Mike Mitchell's overpaid and overrated ass and insert

Will Allen/Shamarko Thomas in his spot the Steelers may be taken a step forward in

rebuilding a terrible secondary. Will Allen has played well when he got the opportunity to start.

As a Cowboys fan my whole life, it's hard to imagine that they are having an incredible year.

I seriously was looking at them winning 4 games all year. Let the ride continue!!!!!

a Cowboys fan displaced in Detroit....gotta show some love to my second favorite team,

The Detroit Lions!!!! They should win the North Division. If Stafford and Megatron get back

on track, and the Defense keeps playing like they have been, they could make some noise

in the playoffs. The Seahawks and 49ers have shown some weaknesses.

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Revolution said:

a Cowboys fan displaced in Detroit....gotta show some love to my second favorite team,

The Detroit Lions!!!! They should win the Central Division. If Stafford and Megatron get back

on track, and the Defense keeps playing like they have been, they could make some noise

in the playoffs. The Seahawks and 49ers have shown some weaknesses.

Dallas and Detroit, you must really look forward to thanksgiving

Da Bears season is OVA. Bad coaching, bad execution, no special teams, and more holes in that defense than Swiss Cheese.

Graycap23 said:

Da Bears season is OVA. Bad coaching, bad execution, no special teams, and more holes in that defense than Swiss Cheese.

I'd add one more thing. I'm used to seeing the Bears being outplayed by their competition, but frankly they were outcoached today as well. I saw Cutler try to throw a bomb down the field four times in this game, and they only managed to get it down the field on one of those throws, and that was because of a pass interference penalty. One of those was on a 3rd and 2 from midfield, when they easily could have handed the ball off to Matt Forte and got a first down. I don't think Jay Cutler called that play himself.

One of the analysts on The NFL Today on CBS said that Jay Cutler and Tony Romo were essentially the same quarterback. They both have amazing skills and can be electric at times, but they both make poor decisions and can only muster a middling record (the Cowboys start notwitstanding). Also, each of them has only won a single playoff game.