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Reply #60 posted 08/24/14 8:36am

RodeoSchro

Here is a comparison of donations to ALS research, comparing funds raised through this point in 2013 and 2014:

2013 - $2,200,000
2014 - $53,000,000

How sad and bitter do you have to be to want to rain on this? Seriously, this is something worth complaining about, or questioning the efficacy of the Ice Bucket Challenge?

That's just plain sad.
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Reply #61 posted 08/24/14 8:40pm

EddieC

I don't really understand the whole thing--I don't like the idea that you can nominate someone and they somehow are obligated to do one or the other (at least). It seems like there's at least an element of shaming or bullying involved... yes, you could ignore the challenge if it's made, but people should not feel forced into donating to a cause, or to donating a certain amount... or whatever. I have nothing against fighting ALS, but when I do have money for charity, it goes in other directions. And adults double-dog-daring people is just stupid.

Anyway, though--my nephew challenged my father-in-law today (well, officially my brother-in-law issued the challenge, but he made sure to blame my nephew for issuing it), and since we were with my father-in-law today (by chance), my daughter dumped the bucket on him. It seemed silly, but better than setting yourself on fire. And I don't think anyone can claim that's raising any money for anything, however indirectly.

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Reply #62 posted 08/25/14 7:43am

RodeoSchro

EddieC said:

I don't really understand the whole thing--I don't like the idea that you can nominate someone and they somehow are obligated to do one or the other (at least). It seems like there's at least an element of shaming or bullying involved... yes, you could ignore the challenge if it's made, but people should not feel forced into donating to a cause, or to donating a certain amount... or whatever. I have nothing against fighting ALS, but when I do have money for charity, it goes in other directions. And adults double-dog-daring people is just stupid.

Anyway, though--my nephew challenged my father-in-law today (well, officially my brother-in-law issued the challenge, but he made sure to blame my nephew for issuing it), and since we were with my father-in-law today (by chance), my daughter dumped the bucket on him. It seemed silly, but better than setting yourself on fire. And I don't think anyone can claim that's raising any money for anything, however indirectly.




It's no different that asking friends to donate to any charity you are involved with. I am active in several charities and have asked hundreds of people over the years for various donations. Some donate, some don't. No one ever gets mad at people who don't donate, because you always knows that they aren't donating because either they support some other charity, or they don't have the funds to donate to mine. No sweat either way.

The genius of the Ice Bucket Challenege is threefold:

1. You're asking people from long-distance. In other words, via video and not face-to-face. MUCH easier for people to ask for donations this way;
2. People can avoid donating by doing something silly/fun (saving them from saying "I'm sorry but I can't donate" directly to a friend); and
3. By nominating three people, the campaign spreads geometrically. Clearly the statistics show that a decent percentage of those nominated are donating rather than Ice Bucketing.

As I posted above, donations this year are 25 times what they were last year at this point. This was a brilliant idea and anyone that wants to call out those participating in it just doesn't have much of a grasp on what this is really about.

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Reply #63 posted 08/25/14 12:01pm

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LadyCasanova said:

PurpleJedi said:

I suggest that anyone offended should just look the other way, kind of like how I just change the channel when the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives comes on the TV.


I think some people spend too much time looking away.


Depends on what you mean.

Pick & choose your battles, ya know?

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Reply #64 posted 08/25/14 12:03pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Here is a comparison of donations to ALS research, comparing funds raised through this point in 2013 and 2014: 2013 - $2,200,000 2014 - $53,000,000 How sad and bitter do you have to be to want to rain on this? Seriously, this is something worth complaining about, or questioning the efficacy of the Ice Bucket Challenge? That's just plain sad.


Washington, D.C. (August 23, 2014) — As of Saturday, August 23, The ALS Association has received $62.5 million in donations compared to $2.4 million during the same time period last year (July 29 to August 23). These donations have come from existing donors and 1.2 million new donors to The Association.

from ALSA.org

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Reply #65 posted 08/25/14 12:15pm

RodeoSchro

PurpleJedi said:

RodeoSchro said:

Here is a comparison of donations to ALS research, comparing funds raised through this point in 2013 and 2014: 2013 - $2,200,000 2014 - $53,000,000 How sad and bitter do you have to be to want to rain on this? Seriously, this is something worth complaining about, or questioning the efficacy of the Ice Bucket Challenge? That's just plain sad.


Washington, D.C. (August 23, 2014) — As of Saturday, August 23, The ALS Association has received $62.5 million in donations compared to $2.4 million during the same time period last year (July 29 to August 23). These donations have come from existing donors and 1.2 million new donors to The Association.

from ALSA.org



Awesome! Thanks for being a part of it. You looked COOL!

1,200,000 NEW donors! That is my kind of narcissistic viral bullshit! highfive

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Reply #66 posted 08/25/14 12:44pm

RodeoSchro



Holy Moley, here is Sarah Palin's Ice Bucket Challenge. Now I very rarely have anything positive to say about America's Favorite Half-Term Governor, but this is CLASSIC. Watch it to the very end!

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Reply #67 posted 08/25/14 2:26pm

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RodeoSchro said:



Holy Moley, here is Sarah Palin's Ice Bucket Challenge. Now I very rarely have anything positive to say about America's Favorite Half-Term Governor, but this is CLASSIC. Watch it to the very end!

"Watch it to the very end"? No, but I skipped to the end. lol

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Reply #68 posted 08/25/14 2:52pm

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Maybe an ice bucket challenge could be done for Cancer research? hmmm

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Reply #69 posted 08/25/14 4:53pm

EddieC

RodeoSchro said:

EddieC said:

I don't really understand the whole thing--I don't like the idea that you can nominate someone and they somehow are obligated to do one or the other (at least). It seems like there's at least an element of shaming or bullying involved... yes, you could ignore the challenge if it's made, but people should not feel forced into donating to a cause, or to donating a certain amount... or whatever. I have nothing against fighting ALS, but when I do have money for charity, it goes in other directions. And adults double-dog-daring people is just stupid.

Anyway, though--my nephew challenged my father-in-law today (well, officially my brother-in-law issued the challenge, but he made sure to blame my nephew for issuing it), and since we were with my father-in-law today (by chance), my daughter dumped the bucket on him. It seemed silly, but better than setting yourself on fire. And I don't think anyone can claim that's raising any money for anything, however indirectly.




It's no different that asking friends to donate to any charity you are involved with. I am active in several charities and have asked hundreds of people over the years for various donations. Some donate, some don't. No one ever gets mad at people who don't donate, because you always knows that they aren't donating because either they support some other charity, or they don't have the funds to donate to mine. No sweat either way.

The genius of the Ice Bucket Challenege is threefold:

1. You're asking people from long-distance. In other words, via video and not face-to-face. MUCH easier for people to ask for donations this way;
2. People can avoid donating by doing something silly/fun (saving them from saying "I'm sorry but I can't donate" directly to a friend); and
3. By nominating three people, the campaign spreads geometrically. Clearly the statistics show that a decent percentage of those nominated are donating rather than Ice Bucketing.

As I posted above, donations this year are 25 times what they were last year at this point. This was a brilliant idea and anyone that wants to call out those participating in it just doesn't have much of a grasp on what this is really about.

I get what you're saying--but the difference here (to me) is the public nature of the asking. I'm not big on social media, and I'm not used to the idea of doing things which seem private to me "in public." If you say to me, as an individual, hey, can you donate blah blah blah--that's between me and you, and I can say yes or no or well, I can donate this much. And it's just between me and you. If you do it online, lots of people are listening in, and forming opinions and judging--for some personality types, it's extremely difficult to stand up to that. It's a different dynamic--maybe more effective (as far as money getting). But I'm uncomfortable with it. But that's me, I guess.

Have fun. Raise money.

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Reply #70 posted 08/25/14 5:45pm

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Sir Patrick Stewart won them all.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #71 posted 08/25/14 7:55pm

morningsong

lazycrockett said:

Sir Patrick Stewart won them all.




lol Love it.
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Reply #72 posted 08/25/14 9:15pm

wildgoldenhone
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lazycrockett said:

Sir Patrick Stewart won them all.

Captain Picard fallinluv

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Reply #73 posted 08/26/14 5:17am

PurpleJedi

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luv4u said:

Maybe an ice bucket challenge could be done for Cancer research? hmmm


That's the push-up challenge.

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Reply #74 posted 08/26/14 5:18am

PurpleJedi

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RodeoSchro said:

PurpleJedi said:


Washington, D.C. (August 23, 2014) — As of Saturday, August 23, The ALS Association has received $62.5 million in donations compared to $2.4 million during the same time period last year (July 29 to August 23). These donations have come from existing donors and 1.2 million new donors to The Association.

from ALSA.org



Awesome! Thanks for being a part of it. You looked COOL!

1,200,000 NEW donors! That is my kind of narcissistic viral bullshit! highfive


thumbs up!

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Reply #75 posted 08/26/14 10:02am

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Gaza Supporters Tweak Ice Bucket Challenge, Use Rubble Instead

Posted: 08/26/2014 11:05 am EDT Updated: 28 minutes ago
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ISTANBUL — It seems like everyone is dumping ice water on their head these days for a cause. The ice bucket challenge to raise awareness for ALS has gone viral, raising nearly $80 million and attracting participants from Steven Spielberg to George W. Bush).

But this week a new trend, this one in support of Gaza, emerged on social media. Instead of filling buckets with water — a scarcity in the Gaza Strip — people are dumping sand and rocks on their heads, in reference to the rubble of thousands of Gazan homes razed by Israeli airstrikes. Videos of the challenge aren’t meant to raise funds, but instead awareness of the living conditions for Palestinians in Gaza.


The Facebook page for the challenge says Maysam Yusef, a university student in Gaza, started the campaign. It has gained traction in the last few days after Palestinian journalist Ayman al Aloul posted a video on YouTube of himself dumping a bucket of rubble over his head from what appears to be a blast site in Gaza

In the video, he says in Arabic that a bucket of water would be hard to waste, since it would be enough water for one family to use for a day. He adds that even if water had been available, freezing it would have been difficult without electricity.

Gaza is currently facing a devastating water shortage due to the conflict. Even during peacetime, the tap water in most homes is undrinkable. The tiny strip of land also suffers from frequent power cuts, which make things like refrigerating water -- or bodies in overcrowded morgues -- impossible.

More than 2,100 Palestinians have been killed and thousands more wounded in the past seven weeks of cross-border hostilities between Hamas and Israel. In Israel, 68 people have been killed, nearly all of them Israeli soldiers. According to UNRWA, the U.N. agency responsible for Palestinian refugees, at least 17,000 homes have been destroyed or damaged in Gaza, leaving 100,000 people homeless.

Israel maintains it only strikes Hamas targets, not civilians, in its efforts to protect Israelis from the thousands of rockets Hamas is lobbing from Gaza. But Palestinian civilians in Gaza say they are being indiscriminately shelled by Israel as a form ofcollective punishment, often with inadequate warning and nowhere safe to go.

WATCH the full video here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/gaza-rubble-bucket-challenge_n_5714837.html

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Reply #76 posted 08/26/14 11:29am

morningsong

^^^^You know we should do a thread representing all the people of the world who are suffering, everyone's suffering needs to be addressed.

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Reply #77 posted 08/26/14 2:06pm

uPtoWnNY

A real challenge would be doing this ice bucket shit in the middle of winter. Then I'll be impressed.

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Reply #78 posted 08/26/14 2:50pm

RodeoSchro

uPtoWnNY said:

A real challenge would be doing this ice bucket shit in the middle of winter. Then I'll be impressed.




LOL, yeah. But then again, it wouldn't be as successful. Here in Houston it's over 100 degrees, and people are BEGGING to be challenged!

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Reply #79 posted 08/27/14 6:39am

PurpleJedi

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uPtoWnNY said:

A real challenge would be doing this ice bucket shit in the middle of winter. Then I'll be impressed.


lol

My assistant actually has a friend who challenged someone to do it IN JANUARY!!!

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Reply #80 posted 08/27/14 7:52am

joppo

PurpleJedi said:

I was nominated.

Dumped the water over my head AND donated $20.00 to an organization that previously I knew nothing about.

Some people donate, some don't, but based on the amount of money being raised, seems to be working. Since the website even asks whether or not your donation is tied to the icebucket challenge, I assume that this goes beyong celebrities being celebrities.

Not as modest or worthwhile as, say, photowhoring tits or debating the virtues of anal sex online of course, but so be it.

For those interested, when you are nominated you are supposed to dump the ice water over your head within 24hrs or donate $100.00 to ALS.

It has been so successful that other charities are following suit with similar drives (there's the push-up challenge for example).

I suggest that anyone offended should just look the other way, kind of like how I just change the channel when the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives comes on the TV.

yeahthat

Seriously, i can't believe people are knocking this.

There are some right fucking dickheads in the world. smh.

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Reply #81 posted 08/27/14 7:54am

joppo

RodeoSchro said:

EddieC said:

I don't really understand the whole thing--I don't like the idea that you can nominate someone and they somehow are obligated to do one or the other (at least). It seems like there's at least an element of shaming or bullying involved... yes, you could ignore the challenge if it's made, but people should not feel forced into donating to a cause, or to donating a certain amount... or whatever. I have nothing against fighting ALS, but when I do have money for charity, it goes in other directions. And adults double-dog-daring people is just stupid.

Anyway, though--my nephew challenged my father-in-law today (well, officially my brother-in-law issued the challenge, but he made sure to blame my nephew for issuing it), and since we were with my father-in-law today (by chance), my daughter dumped the bucket on him. It seemed silly, but better than setting yourself on fire. And I don't think anyone can claim that's raising any money for anything, however indirectly.




It's no different that asking friends to donate to any charity you are involved with. I am active in several charities and have asked hundreds of people over the years for various donations. Some donate, some don't. No one ever gets mad at people who don't donate, because you always knows that they aren't donating because either they support some other charity, or they don't have the funds to donate to mine. No sweat either way.

The genius of the Ice Bucket Challenege is threefold:

1. You're asking people from long-distance. In other words, via video and not face-to-face. MUCH easier for people to ask for donations this way;
2. People can avoid donating by doing something silly/fun (saving them from saying "I'm sorry but I can't donate" directly to a friend); and
3. By nominating three people, the campaign spreads geometrically. Clearly the statistics show that a decent percentage of those nominated are donating rather than Ice Bucketing.

As I posted above, donations this year are 25 times what they were last year at this point. This was a brilliant idea and anyone that wants to call out those participating in it just doesn't have much of a grasp on what this is really about.

yeahthat too!

I don't get what there is to not understand.

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Reply #82 posted 08/27/14 7:56am

joppo

IT'S FUN! A fun way to raise money, a fun way to raise awareness! IT'S REALLY NOT HARMING ANYONE!

Here's Homer.

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Reply #83 posted 08/27/14 11:17am

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Beware of celebrity fronted or supported charities (research the charity you are supporting to be sure you are actually helping those your money was intended to)

These celebrities charge these organizations for their huge overheads ect, because raising money for the poor or sick means chartering private jets and hotels and assistants and assistants assistants just for celebs to get out there and raise money, and what you end up with is the following....

Bono's ONE foundation under fire for giving little over 1% of funds to charity

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Reply #84 posted 08/27/14 6:48pm

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lCJWEX68AOg/U_VTjzufNQI/AAAAAAAA0Ts/VksuO1TrS-0/w640-h400-p-k/als_ice_bucket_challenge___batman_by_rickcelis-d7vyob2.jpg

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Reply #85 posted 08/27/14 8:21pm

EddieC

kpowers said:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lCJWEX68AOg/U_VTjzufNQI/AAAAAAAA0Ts/VksuO1TrS-0/w640-h400-p-k/als_ice_bucket_challenge___batman_by_rickcelis-d7vyob2.jpg

Clark and Lois have already done it (well, Henry Cavill and Amy Adams). Haven't seen anything about Wonder Woman accepting.

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Reply #86 posted 08/27/14 8:35pm

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EddieC said:

kpowers said:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lCJWEX68AOg/U_VTjzufNQI/AAAAAAAA0Ts/VksuO1TrS-0/w640-h400-p-k/als_ice_bucket_challenge___batman_by_rickcelis-d7vyob2.jpg

Clark and Lois have already done it (well, Henry Cavill and Amy Adams). Haven't seen anything about Wonder Woman accepting.

ok, Wonder Woman your turn

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Reply #87 posted 08/28/14 3:15am

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PurpleJedi said:

LadyCasanova said:


I think some people spend too much time looking away.


Depends on what you mean.

Pick & choose your battles, ya know?


That is true, water wasting is just something that gets my hackles up.

"Aren't you even curious? Don't you want to see the dragon behind the door?"
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Reply #88 posted 08/28/14 7:54am

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LadyCasanova said:

PurpleJedi said:


Depends on what you mean.

Pick & choose your battles, ya know?


That is true, water wasting is just something that gets my hackles up.


pat

If I can make your conscience just a tad bit less tense...think about it this way;

Western society does not value water conservation much. We use POTABLE WATER TO FLUSH OUR TOILETS, WASH OUR CARS & WATER OUR LAWNS.

Think about the amount of water that goes into water just ONE golf course for a week. How many ice bucket challenges would it take to match or exceed that amount?

Let's start with the big offenders, and work our way down.

In the meantime, put a smile on your face knowing that the few hundreds of gallons of water being "wasted" by the ALS challenge has led to a bonanza for the charity's coffers. That's much better than all the green turf at Pebble Beach.

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Reply #89 posted 08/29/14 11:59am

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kpowers said:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lCJWEX68AOg/U_VTjzufNQI/AAAAAAAA0Ts/VksuO1TrS-0/w640-h400-p-k/als_ice_bucket_challenge___batman_by_rickcelis-d7vyob2.jpg

Looks like Wonder Woman did the challenge

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