XxAxX said:

oh come on people. how is this a 'challenge'? seriously? you want a challenge? a dead trout bucket would be challenging. an indelible INK bucket would be challenging. angry, writhing scorpion bucket? challenging!! ice water? i don't think so.

I refuse to participate in this on the grounds that it started with Mark Zuckerberg. I want no association with that douche.

ConsciousContact said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Why Prince?

I understand they were friends at some point. Maybe they still are?

Kirsty Alley is all over the segues between songs of the "Symbol" album playing the reporter.

LadyCasanova said:

We are in the middle of a serious drought in California and I am sick of people here wasting drinkable water to do this.

"If we are interested in water lost or wasted each day, we should be less concerned with water used to draw attention to the insidious disease ALS and more concerned with water leaking from common household faucets," Gulliford said, adding that a faucet dripping eight times a minute wastes five gallons of water a week. "If the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge has raised public awareness regarding the importance of not wasting potable water, let's channel that concern in a more positive way and fix leaking faucets."

In a statement to The Wire, the Environmental Protection Agency agreed:

EPA fully supports the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. The agency would also encourage participants to be creative in utilizing water, such as holding the challenge in a garden that needs watering, or finding ways to capture water for reuse.

Even California's Department of Water Resources information officer Doug Carlson told The Wire that the charity work of the Challenge is overshadowed by the true causes of the drought and the habits residents need to focus on changing.

http://www.thewire.com/na...ge/378776/

ZombieKitten said:

MoBettaBliss said:

yep

http://www.sbs.com.au/new...-challenge

I tried to read this article the other day. It says only some people donate money to charity, and of those people, they only donate a certain amount each year, so arguably with all the publicity this has generated, a lot of much-needed money has been channelled away from more "worthy" causes. Something like that?

People need to relax. Once This Ice Bucket Challenge has lost it's steam, the greater population will return to quietly ignoring ALS, as it usually does unfortunately.. Hopefully this will inspire other fundraisers to think outside of the box though, and come up with creative ways to spread awareness of other causes besides the usual 5K runs and pink/red/purple/etc ribbon bumper stickers.

thekidsgirl said:

LadyCasanova said:

We are in the middle of a serious drought in California and I am sick of people here wasting drinkable water to do this.

"If we are interested in water lost or wasted each day, we should be less concerned with water used to draw attention to the insidious disease ALS and more concerned with water leaking from common household faucets," Gulliford said, adding that a faucet dripping eight times a minute wastes five gallons of water a week. "If the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge has raised public awareness regarding the importance of not wasting potable water, let's channel that concern in a more positive way and fix leaking faucets."

In a statement to The Wire, the Environmental Protection Agency agreed:

EPA fully supports the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. The agency would also encourage participants to be creative in utilizing water, such as holding the challenge in a garden that needs watering, or finding ways to capture water for reuse.

Even California's Department of Water Resources information officer Doug Carlson told The Wire that the charity work of the Challenge is overshadowed by the true causes of the drought and the habits residents need to focus on changing.

http://www.thewire.com/na...ge/378776/

I think that's why our former mayor who did his a couple of days ago, used beer, goofy. Our current mayor who just did it yesterday was in a public garden, so I'm assuming some are trying to be water concious.

ConsciousContact said:

Kirstie Alley challenged Prince.

Well, they'll be getting a big check.

morningsong said:

ConsciousContact said:

Kirstie Alley challenged Prince.

Well, they'll be getting a big check.

"I nominate Apollonia."

kpowers said:

Genesia said:

My sister challenged me today. How do I tell her to go jump in the lake? (Pun intended.)

wildgoldenhoney said:

kpowers said:

She was in the my name is Prince video.

Ooohhh.

Six degrees of separation thread...

She also presented him the VH1 Honor back in 94

ZombieKitten said:

JustErin said:

So all these people doing it and posting it online are not donating a thing.

This is the most narcissistic viral "awareness" bullshit I've ever seen.

I'm pretty sure the celebs are doing both vid and donation - all hell would break loose publicity wise if word got out J-Lo didn't give a cent

Most people that do the challenge also donate money. But just the publicity from challenge itself has raised awareness to the point that over $30,000,000 has been raised for ALS research. That's $30,000,000 that wouldn't have been donated if not for the ice bucket challenge.

I guess all that "narcissistic viral awareness bullshit" wasn't so narcissitic or bullshit after all.

thekidsgirl said:

ZombieKitten said:

http://www.sbs.com.au/new...-challenge

I tried to read this article the other day. It says only some people donate money to charity, and of those people, they only donate a certain amount each year, so arguably with all the publicity this has generated, a lot of much-needed money has been channelled away from more "worthy" causes. Something like that?

People need to relax. Once This Ice Bucket Challenge has lost it's steam, the greater population will return to quietly ignoring ALS, as it usually does unfortunately.. Hopefully this will inspire other fundraisers to think outside of the box though, and come up with creative ways to spread awareness of other causes besides the usual 5K runs and pink/red/purple/etc ribbon bumper stickers.

Somehow I think the org's classic "photowhore your t*ts" could be converted into a successful fundraising/awareness campaign.

And too bad so sad for "worthy" charities that didn't come up with something to grab everyone's attention/money.

50 Cent said he'd give $750,000 to ALS research if Floyd Mayweather could read one page from a Harry Potter book without f***ing up. Then he said, "F*** a bucket of ice!"

thekidsgirl said:

LadyCasanova said:

We are in the middle of a serious drought in California and I am sick of people here wasting drinkable water to do this.

"If we are interested in water lost or wasted each day, we should be less concerned with water used to draw attention to the insidious disease ALS and more concerned with water leaking from common household faucets," Gulliford said, adding that a faucet dripping eight times a minute wastes five gallons of water a week. "If the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge has raised public awareness regarding the importance of not wasting potable water, let's channel that concern in a more positive way and fix leaking faucets."

In a statement to The Wire, the Environmental Protection Agency agreed:

EPA fully supports the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. The agency would also encourage participants to be creative in utilizing water, such as holding the challenge in a garden that needs watering, or finding ways to capture water for reuse.

Even California's Department of Water Resources information officer Doug Carlson told The Wire that the charity work of the Challenge is overshadowed by the true causes of the drought and the habits residents need to focus on changing.

http://www.thewire.com/na...ge/378776/

This does not change how I feel at all.

I am concerned about all of the ways we take drinkable water for granted, pointing out another
way water is wasted does not make the fact that most people are wasting drinkable water to do
this challenge any less true.

ASL could have used something other than water to promote their cause.

RodeoSchro said:

ZombieKitten said:

I'm pretty sure the celebs are doing both vid and donation - all hell would break loose publicity wise if word got out J-Lo didn't give a cent

Most people that do the challenge also donate money. But just the publicity from challenge itself has raised awareness to the point that over $30,000,000 has been raised for ALS research. That's $30,000,000 that wouldn't have been donated if not for the ice bucket challenge.

I guess all that "narcissistic viral awareness bullshit" wasn't so narcissitic or bullshit after all.

yep

I was nominated.

Dumped the water over my head AND donated $20.00 to an organization that previously I knew nothing about.

Some people donate, some don't, but based on the amount of money being raised, seems to be working. Since the website even asks whether or not your donation is tied to the icebucket challenge, I assume that this goes beyong celebrities being celebrities.

Not as modest or worthwhile as, say, photowhoring tits or debating the virtues of anal sex online of course, but so be it.

For those interested, when you are nominated you are supposed to dump the ice water over your head within 24hrs or donate $100.00 to ALS.

It has been so successful that other charities are following suit with similar drives (there's the push-up challenge for example).

I suggest that anyone offended should just look the other way, kind of like how I just change the channel when the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives comes on the TV.

PurpleJedi said:

I was nominated.

Dumped the water over my head AND donated $20.00 to an organization that previously I knew nothing about.

Some people donate, some don't, but based on the amount of money being raised, seems to be working. Since the website even asks whether or not your donation is tied to the icebucket challenge, I assume that this goes beyong celebrities being celebrities.

Not as modest or worthwhile as, say, photowhoring tits or debating the virtues of anal sex online of course, but so be it.

For those interested, when you are nominated you are supposed to dump the ice water over your head within 24hrs or donate $100.00 to ALS.

It has been so successful that other charities are following suit with similar drives (there's the push-up challenge for example).

I suggest that anyone offended should just look the other way, kind of like how I just change the channel when the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives comes on the TV.

yep

scroll down to August 20, that one still has me falling out of my chair

https://www.facebook.com/...fref=photo

LadyCasanova said:

thekidsgirl said:

Even California's Department of Water Resources information officer Doug Carlson told The Wire that the charity work of the Challenge is overshadowed by the true causes of the drought and the habits residents need to focus on changing.

http://www.thewire.com/na...ge/378776/

This does not change how I feel at all.

I am concerned about all of the ways we take drinkable water for granted, pointing out another
way water is wasted does not make the fact that most people are wasting drinkable water to do
this challenge any less true.

ASL could have used something other than water to promote their cause.

as long as they do it on grass or near a pool, it's not really wasting it right?

MoBettaBliss said:

yep

The fact that some people still donated doesn't take away from or alter my original statement in any way.

This newest viral narcissism is in no way comparable to some of the threads that people have brought up because those threads do not claim to be anything but self-serving.

My boyfriend's co-worker challenged him to do this Thursday evening within 24 hours when he's supposed to work a full day, pack his bags, then travel hours to visit me Friday evening. AND he's already donated.

Cinny said:

My boyfriend's co-worker challenged him to do this Thursday evening within 24 hours when he's supposed to work a full day, pack his bags, then travel hours to visit me Friday evening. AND he's already donated.

When does this challenge end? It actually got too cold in some parts of Canada to do an ice water challenge outdoors.

Cinny said:

When does this challenge end? It actually got too cold in some parts of Canada to do an ice water challenge outdoors.

You can always take the polar bear plunge challenge.

purplethunder3121 said:

Cinny said:

When does this challenge end? It actually got too cold in some parts of Canada to do an ice water challenge outdoors.

You can always take the polar bear plunge challenge.

This makes for a very good campaign last two weeks of July and first two weeks of August.. otherwise it is actually cruel to nominate a Canadian.

JustErin said:

MoBettaBliss said:

yep

The fact that some people still donated doesn't take away from or alter my original statement in any way.

This newest viral narcissism is in no way comparable to some of the threads that people have brought up because those threads do not claim to be anything but self-serving.

it doesn't matter

people are having fun and a shit load of money is being raised for a good cause... that's it

with the truly horrible stuff going on in the world, the shit people choose to have a problem with amazes me

and celebrities can be narcissistic?.... well fuck me... there's some revelation knowledge right there

JustErin said:

MoBettaBliss said:

yep

The fact that some people still donated doesn't take away from or alter my original statement in any way.

This newest viral narcissism is in no way comparable to some of the threads that people have brought up because those threads do not claim to be anything but self-serving.

I dunno, Erin. Buying a reissue of Fela Kuti's Expensive Shit with that $25 would be self-serving, not a donation to ALS.

Everyone who accepts the challenge also nominates (at least) THREE people, so the campaign continues.

Cinny said:

PurpleJedi said:

I suggest that anyone offended should just look the other way, kind of like how I just change the channel when the Jersey Shore or Real Housewives comes on the TV.

I think some people spend too much time looking away.

I guess not everybody does the challenge...


http://www.vegan.com/pamela-anderson/

Canadian-American actress Pamela Anderson, who initially gained fame by starring in the hit TV show Baywatch, is a longtime and deeply committed animal advocate. She has been vegetarian since she was a teen, and is now an outspoken vegan.

She has repeatedly collaborated with PETA on animal rights campaigns, including her Turn Over a New Leaf—Try Vegetarian poster and the “I’d rather go naked than wear fur” campaign. As a Canadian citizen, Pam has also voiced her opposition to the annual Canadian seal slaughter. She has more than a million Twitter followers and regularly tweets on animal protection issues.

In the summer of 2014 Pamela was one of the few celebrities to turn down participating in the Ice Bucket Challenge, citing cruel animal experiments that were being performed by the ALS Association.

By standing up for animals at every opportunity, Pamela Anderson has made a huge impact on animals and the world.




And here's another article:

In a world of fast fads, hollow endorsements and mindless retweets, rare is the celebrity who can resist jumping aboard a trend. But actress Pamela Anderson can see through the clutter and is taking a stand - against charity.

The former Baywatch star has refused to participate in the viral Ice Bucket Challenge, in which people dare one another to dump a bucket of iced water over their heads to raise awareness for Lou Gehrig's disease, or ALS. Her stance was congratulated by Humane Research Australia.

The ALS Association has had astounding success with the campaign, attracting 750,000 new donors and raising $US42 million in less than a month. Its popularity has boomed with the support of big names including Bill Gates, Jimmy Fallon and Lady Gaga.

But Anderson, who is a long-standing animal rights activist, says the ALS Association has funded "cruel" and "outdated" animal testing and has refused to participate in the challenge.

"Mice had holes drilled into their skulls, were inflicted with crippling illnesses, and were forced to run on an inclined treadmill until they collapsed from exhaustion," she wrote on her Facebook page.

"Monkeys had chemicals injected into their brains and backs and were later killed and dissected."

Anderson also claims animal testing is ineffective, with only a small number of ALS experiments on animals moving on to human trials.

"Even though animals feel pain and suffer like we do, their bodies often react completely differently to drugs and diseases," she wrote.

The 47-year-old's Facebook post has proved popular, garnering more than 43,000 "likes" and almost 15,000 shares. Her stance was endorsed by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, for which Anderson is an ambassador.

She issued her own challenge to medical researchers and charities: switch to what she called "sophisticated" non-animal testing methods, such as computer modelling and using "human volunteers".

"Trying to cure human diseases by relying on outdated and ineffective animal experiments isn't only cruel - it's a grave disservice to people who desperately need cures," she wrote.

Helen Marston, chief executive of Humane Research Australia, congratulated Anderson on her stand and backed her call for people to donate to charities that don't fund animal research.

"People mean well when they donate to health charities, but many are unaware that they may inadvertently be supporting cruel and unnecessary animal experiments," Ms Marston said.

"With growing awareness of the dangers of reliance on data from animal tests, the public should be able to make an informed choice as to how their generous donations are really being spent."

The ALS Association has been approached for a comment.

Retired motocross star Carey Hart also caused a stir by appearing to rant against the Ice Bucket Challenge as a vanity project. He later relented and made a donation, adding: "I think it is a great and creative way to raise money but unfortunately, from what I have seen it has evolved into a pass-along joke to some."

[Edited 8/22/14 23:22pm]