This is going to be a good one tonight!

starting now

it was okay... seemed like it took a long time to give very little infomation...

That was obviously a set-up episode for the last 4. Anyone thinking that Todd would help Walter under the condition that he'll cook for them again? I'm Team Jesse, BTW. He's got to bring that fucker down!

As much as I complain about Reality TV taking over I never watched one single episode of "Breaking Bad"....Hopefully I'll catch it in re-runs.

Chancellor said:

As much as I complain about Reality TV taking over I never watched one single episode of "Breaking Bad"....Hopefully I'll catch it in re-runs.

Do that! And try to avoid spoilers I'd say, but I guess that might be really difficult in the coming weeks.

It's heavily serialized, I wouldn't watch it in reruns unless you can catch every single episode. Netflix is how so many have caught up with it and this season the ratings are twice what they were last year.

Jesse go down the hole, bye bye Jesse.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it was okay... seemed like it took a long time to give very little infomation...

Don't agree with that at all. TONS of info throughout the episode.

By the way, anyone else notice that damn near everyone in this episode was wanting to kill someone...except Walt? lol

Skylar wants to kill Jesse. "What's one more?"

Marie wants to kill Walt. At least she loves thinking about doing so.

Hank has no problem with Jesse getting killed because he'll have it on tape.

Jesse makes an apparent threat of violence against Walt's family.

It wasn't until the end that Walt seemingly gave in and decided that violence is once again a solution. Jesse may have signed his own death warrant. But then again, he should be smart enough to know threatening the family of the guy who has a "zero tolerance policy" against people he considers threats and whom he called "the devil" would result in that. So I'm thinking Jesse only pretended to threaten Walt's family in order to set up some other plan. Hell, even Walt said to Skylar that Jesse would never hurt them.

Byron said:

By the way, anyone else notice that damn near everyone in this episode was wanting to kill someone...except Walt? lol

Skylar wants to kill Jesse. "What's one more?"

Marie wants to kill Walt. At least she loves thinking about doing so.

Hank has no problem with Jesse getting killed because he'll have it on tape.

Jesse makes an apparent threat of violence against Walt's family.

It wasn't until the end that Walt seemingly gave in and decided that violence is once again a solution. Jesse may have signed his own death warrant. But then again, he should be smart enough to know threatening the family of the guy who has a "zero tolerance policy" against people he considers threats and whom he called "the devil" would result in that. So I'm thinking Jesse only pretended to threaten Walt's family in order to set up some other plan. Hell, even Walt said to Skylar that Jesse would never hurt them.

Yes, indeed, the author of the episode commented on this, saying it's the irony of the episode that the only who does not want to kill is Walter but the corrupted anyone around him.

Byron said:

By the way, anyone else notice that damn near everyone in this episode was wanting to kill someone...except Walt? lol

Skylar wants to kill Jesse. "What's one more?"

Marie wants to kill Walt. At least she loves thinking about doing so.

Hank has no problem with Jesse getting killed because he'll have it on tape.

Jesse makes an apparent threat of violence against Walt's family.

It wasn't until the end that Walt seemingly gave in and decided that violence is once again a solution. Jesse may have signed his own death warrant. But then again, he should be smart enough to know threatening the family of the guy who has a "zero tolerance policy" against people he considers threats and whom he called "the devil" would result in that. So I'm thinking Jesse only pretended to threaten Walt's family in order to set up some other plan. Hell, even Walt said to Skylar that Jesse would never hurt them.

I know! shit when Skylar was hinting at killing Jesse i was like damn she is fed the fuck up

As much as i really despise Walt he was strangely enough not really the bad guy in this episode! i love how the show can turn that around so quickly.

Is it bad that i steal kind of feel bad for Jesse?

Now i am not one of those fans that think Walt is a hero cause i am sick of his ass i hope he gets his

But Jesse was... well he was that one friend we all have who is atually a smart guy but doesn't want to apply himself and wants to smoke weed all day. And of course eventually gets into sellng!

Now throughout the show he became addicted to heroin because of Jane but before that i think he only did weed right?

But througout the show he has shown to have the most morals of Walts crew and actually feels a lot of remorse for the bad shit that goes down. Also he seems to care a lot about kids! starting with the kid he took from the crack house in season 2, to Tomas being murdered and he goes against Gus in wanting to kill the 2 drug dealers, to trying to save Brock etc.

Now i think he deservs prison time hell yeah he is no angel! but all in all i still feel kind of bad for his character... and i can already see he will have a bad end.

morningsong said:

^ Possible Spoiler! Jesse did meth as well as cook and sell it. His definite line is anyone messing with kids. I'm just worried since that first time he didn't really go about it well and would have been killed if Walt hadn't intervene. That's part of how everything started Walt saw him when Hank took him on a ride along. Hank is possibly the squeakiest clean person of the bunch he just runs his mouth a lot.

Mah! that is right sorry i ahve not watched season 1 in a LONG time so i forgot all that...

Funny though about Hank he is kind of the only good person! Skyler had her moments but man she is losing it... Marie is a klepto and the shit she did with going around to real estate houses and making up stories about her life

But i remmeber in the first episode that Hank seemed like such an asshole! how the tables tunred.

Oh! I am 100% rooting for Walt! He better win! I hope Jesse and Walt's family all survive...but in the end I want Walt to be stinking rich!

Gunsnhalen said:

Is it bad that i steal kind of feel bad for Jesse?

Now i am not one of those fans that think Walt is a hero cause i am sick of his ass i hope he gets his

But Jesse was... well he was that one friend we all have who is atually a smart guy but doesn't want to apply himself and wants to smoke weed all day. And of course eventually gets into sellng!

Now throughout the show he became addicted to heroin because of Jane but before that i think he only did weed right?

But througout the show he has shown to have the most morals of Walts crew and actually feels a lot of remorse for the bad shit that goes down. Also he seems to care a lot about kids! starting with the kid he took from the crack house in season 2, to Tomas being murdered and he goes against Gus in wanting to kill the 2 drug dealers, to trying to save Brock etc.

Now i think he deservs prison time hell yeah he is no angel! but all in all i still feel kind of bad for his character... and i can already see he will have a bad end.

It's time 2 put Pinkman down.

I get this strange feeling Graycap doesn't like Jesse. I can't quite put my finger on what it is but I just get this vibe.

morningsong said:

I get this strange feeling Graycap doesn't like Jesse. I can't quite put my finger on what it is but I just get this vibe.

U are only as strong as your weakest link.

I'll give u 1 guess what Pinkman is.

Graycap23 said:

morningsong said:

I get this strange feeling Graycap doesn't like Jesse. I can't quite put my finger on what it is but I just get this vibe.

U are only as strong as your weakest link.

I'll give u 1 guess what Pinkman is.

Yeah I know, he falls down a lot.

I'm finding I'm gonna have to watch some episodes over again, maybe..

While you watch the episode it all seems to flow along, the characters are familiar, then reading what you guy's have said it all gets a bit blurry.

I watched episodes 1, and 2, of 'Talking Bad', which was a really 'bad' (hehe) idea.

Jesse is just a guy looking for a Father figure.

Him and Walt were very much loyal to each other for a very long time.

Walt helping Jesse's girlfriend die, was pivotal:

Jane Margolis (played by Krysten Ritter) is Jesse's neighbor, landlady, and lover. She is a tattoo artist (without any tattoos) and recovering addict.

Although Walt did not intentionally bring about Jane's asphyxiation, he intentionally did not roll her on her side, so that she would choke to death. According to series creator Vince Gilligan, Walt allowed Jane to die because Walt was afraid that her bad influence would lead Jesse to an early death from a Heroin overdose.

Hmm, I have to say the show started out with Walt being a guy who after eating S**t most his life just said no, and did what a lot of us would like to do, give it to the Man !

In the ensuing experiences both him and Jesse went through, his loathing of the whole drug business became something he accepted so well he became the worst Monster of them all.

What's gonna happen next ? Anything is possible, even a totally crazy ending like a Nuclear attack which wipes out everyone so a tightly written final can be sidestepped.

We'll all have to wait and see, Walt is dying from Cancer, ... heck I'm stopping there.

Sorry Folks, ...

[Edited 9/4/13 5:51am]

^
Yeah, Walt's going to die anyway, that basically was said in the very beginning, his cancer was going to come back soon, regardless. I guess we're all just waiting to see if he went through all this for nothing. That would be messed up.

Jane, as pretty as she was, was very bad for Jesse. As badly as she needed to leave Jesse's life I despise the decision that Walt made, I think that was vindictive more than anything else. Now, Andrea, Brock's mom, she seemed to be very good for Jesse, someone that could balance him out, get him to focus, but Walt manipulated him, again, out of a chance for a decent life, I think that was, at least in my mind, a turning point from seeing Walt as a person who is looking out for Jesse to him as a means to an end.

OnlyNDaUsa:

Was the guy Walt saw buying meth stuff at Home Depot (and gave advice to) Todd?

I dunno, to be honest.

I'm getting into checking online for stuff I'm not sure about. Saves watching the episodes again, there's heaps of info. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...haracters, etc.

* If you haven't watched all the Episodes, looking online is obvously a spoiler *

morningsong:

Jane, as pretty as she was, was very bad for Jesse. As badly as she needed to leave Jesse's life I despise the decision that Walt made, I think that was vindictive more than anything else. Now, Andrea, Brock's mom, she seemed to be very good for Jesse, someone that could balance him out, get him to focus, but Walt manipulated him, again, out of a chance for a decent life, I think that was, at least in my mind, a turning point from seeing Walt as a person who is looking out for Jesse to him as a means to an end.

Yep, I have to agree !

I wasn't sure about the "Ricin" cigarette, and whether Brock just found it and ate it, and the more I research, the more intriguing.

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Ricin

I HOPE NO ONE MINDS ME putting links with info about scenes ?

This is oh so wickedly complex:

Later, Andrea Cantillo's son Brock Cantillo fell severely ill from some unknown cause and Jesse found that his ricin-vial cigarette was missing. He told Andrea to warn Brock's doctors about the possible poisoning. Because only he and Walt knew about the ricin, Jesse suspected that Walt poisoned Brock; however, Walt convinces him that it was Gus who poisoned Brock. ("End Times") Although initially in danger of dying, doctors say that he would survive, and tests showed that it was not ricin; instead, he ingested the berries of a local poisonous plant called the "Lily of the Valley". At the very end of the episode, the camera zooms in on a Lily of the Valley in Walt's back yard, beside his pool.

Yeah, ...

FLUX said:

OnlyNDaUsa:

Was the guy Walt saw buying meth stuff at Home Depot (and gave advice to) Todd?

I dunno, to be honest.

I'm getting into checking online for stuff I'm not sure about. Saves watching the episodes again, there's heaps of info. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...haracters, etc.

* If you haven't watched all the Episodes, looking online is obvously a spoiler *

I do not think it is: tood's wiki has his first appearance in season 5

I just remembered that secene this morning and wondered....

FLUX said:

morningsong said:

FLUX said:

OnlyNDaUsa:

Yeah, ...

Wiki is like Cliffs notes, you do get the basics but it does leave some things out. I still use it to find out if I want to delve further.

I am not sure what the question is: But Huell lifted the cigarettes from Jesse when he searched him.

Vince Gilligan admitted that the although they did work out how Walt poisoned Brock, the time line was pretty tight.

They discussed it at the comic con 2013. http://www.youtube.com/wa...EXZPJwfuTY

(it is an 50min talk with the cast and VG)

It is safe to watch if you have watched through S5 Ep8.

wer are like 2 seasons behind here, so did he finally sell the massive amounts of dope and did his son get killed?