http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

Bill Deagle? BILL DEAGLE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? You're using BILL DEAGLE as your expert?!?!?!?!?!?



I need to tell our readers who Bill Deagle is. To do that, I'll list just SOME of the stuff about him, with a link at the end.

EARLY HISTORY
Born in Detroit and raised in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Deagle attributes his superior intelligence to the fact that his mom smoked while pregnant. This increased his neural pathways. Also, aliens interested in his superior intellect observed him closely throughout his childhood.

In 1974 he was "personally recruited" to take a year off med school and do his Ph.D. in virology with the CIA in Uganda, to help create the AIDS virus. He turned down the offer.

He says that in '75 the infamous brainwasher Ewen Cameron was brought to Dalhousie as a guest speaker. Slight catch: Dr. Cameron died in 1967. Deagle explains that he "supposedly died". (2)

He worked on the Iridium satellites, Echalon, World Identification, and Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative ("Star Wars"). He also treated people working on highly classified projects, and taught bioterrorism response/environmental medicine to Special Operation (Delta) forces, and exchanged info with them. They gave him sections of the Patriot Act two years before it was announced; they had been written 12-15 years earlier.

On June 1, 2007, Deagle's Colorado medical license was revoked for over-prescribing highly addictive pain medications to six of his patients. He is not currently licensed to practice medicine in Nova Scotia.

DR. DEAGLE IS A PROPHET
According to Lloyd, he also named a source far higher up than his current NSA contacts: the Archangel Gabriel. Gabriel first appeared to Deagle on April 24, 1999 (four days after Columbine), but the visit was announced by the audible voice of God Himself, instructing him to take two specific nutrient capsules and go to bed. As he slept, Gabriel appeared to him and transported him to Kosovo to witness firsthand the horrors wrought by war. He watched Milosevic argue with a Russian diplomat just before the archangel moved him to the White House basement to see the Clintons crowing over their success at demonizing Milosevic. Next he saw German soldiers marching to cries of "Hail the UN World Armed Forces!"

DR. DEAGLE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED AT THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING
In 1995 Dr. Deagle was working at Penrose St. Francis Hospital in Colorado Springs, as an Occupational Physician. His boss at Penrose St. Francis, Dr. George Swinder, was assigned to conduct all the exit examinations of the five members of a Fort Carson military expert forensic munitions team that had been dispatched to Oklahoma City immediately after the bombing, but Deagle filled in during his absence. One of the men (unnamed) appeared to be perfectly healthy aside from a rash on his limbs and chest, yet he wanted to be tested for sterility. Pressed to give a reason, he revealed to Dr. D that the destruction of the Alfred P. Murray building was caused by something seven times stronger than any ammonium nitrate (fertilizer) bomb. "We broke three radiation detectors there," Rash Man said. He and his co-workers had been kept under Wackenhut armed guard while sifting through the debris, preventing them from removing anything from the site. The team recovered two undetonated micronukes and one C4 pineapple bomb from the wreckage. Somehow, Rash Man learned that ATF and FBI agents had planted micronuclear bombs on the building's support pillars. This man was later court-martialed.

DR. DEAGLE HAPPENED TO BE AT COLUMBINE, AND GUESS WHAT?
Dr. Deagle claims that as a fire department physician, he was one of the first emergency workers to arrive at Columbine High on the morning of April 19, 1999. But when he and two firemen tried to enter the school, a sheriff's officer barred the door and warned that if they tried to enter he would shoot them. In other words, the authorities were participants in the massacre, keeping emergency workers at bay until Harris and Klebold had completed their assigned task. Later, three students informed Deagle that ATF agents had been firing on kids inside the school.

DR. DEAGLE WAS TOLD ABOUT 9/11 BEFORE IT HAPPENED - BY THE FBI!
In March 2001 Deagle attended a private luncheon for FBI and CDC officials in Denver. There, he was told by an unnamed FBI official that there would be an attack on New York City within two years. Martial law and microchip identification would be instituted immediately afterwards. So Deagle wasn't at all surprised on September 11.

DR. DEAGLE ON HISTORY AND RELIGION (almost all this comes from ONE speech!)
"All kings and rulers are subject to the Jesuit general, the Black Pope. Zionism is just an apostate arm of the Babylonian Talmudic Satanism subject to the Vatican. Spiritual dark lords of blood and sexual sacrifice are identical with the I.F.E.s...Identified Fiendish Entities. They exist in the astral planes and in the physical."

The Nazis channeled plans for spacecraft from aliens.

"I know information that's well beyond that of the Buddhists." - CALLING IMAGO!!!!!

Later he says that in ten years, humans will only be produced in labs. Those with genetic abnormalities will be killed, and we will all be programmed to die "like lightbulbs".

The Avian flu is "the brainiac virus", the most intelligent and deadly bioweapon ever released. It is "Ebola on 'roids". A global pandemic of it could kill 2 billion people. Americans will be chipped and placed in quarantine detainment facilities, ostensibly to prevent its spread. Vaccines will be useless against it. To prevent this pandemic, we must have hepafilters in all international aircraft, and we must stop spraying chemtrails containing nano-organisms (silicon-based lifeforms that do no originate on Earth).

They are designing lethal pesticides (research begun by "crazy maniacs" in Israel 30 years ago), and will irradiate food to kill more people. Apparently this info comes from Major-General Bert Stubblebine III, a frequent guest on Deagle's online radio show, The Nutrimedical Report.

The real goal of chemtrail-spraying is to convert the atmosphere into plasma for weather modification, scalar mind control technology, geotechtonic warfare, and other nefarious uses.

Nokia has figured out a way to beam a bio-coded signal directly to your DNA through its phones, to affect your physiology and insert thoughts into your mind.

Nokia and Bell Technologies are staffed by NSA agents and have above-top-secret classifications for research. Cell phone companies are part of the "dark majestic evil majesty", in other words.

You see, we've had a base on the Moon and a colony on Mars since 1982. They are reached by a fleet of Aurora spacecraft, which are actually outdated Model-Ts of interplanetary travel, soon to be replaced by craft that travel above the speed of light. He learned this from an anonymous Canadian source.

http://swallowingthecamel...dr_27.html

I guess Dr. Deagle's followers can best be summed up by this: Who attends Deagle's lectures? Well, one woman at the Granada Forum rose during the Q & A session to ask him, "If someone wanted to kill themselves quickly, what could they use?"

C'mon my little cloudie. If this is the best you can do, well I guess I'm not surprised.

I'm liking this Deagle guy lol...

My next screenname on the Org is gonna be ModifiedAttackBabboon

Byron said:

I'm liking this Deagle guy lol...

(Deagle's) all-encompassing mega-theory includes a network of 1,500 government bases below ground, hidden nukes in 20 cities, Avian flu, the Jesuits, a new Ice Age, existing human colonies on Mars, a coming Apocalypse, chemtrails, RFID chips, the NAU and the Amero, and, of course, "modified attack babboons." I kid you not. Here's a quote James B. plucked from the address:

"Their plan is to transition to Remote Operational Vehicles, cyborgs, weaponized animals like baboons that they have in a secret facility down near Galveston, Texas. They have them set up so that they have remote operating controls, so they have a kill mode and they have these nano-armor that can stop pretty well anything. Any 80 lb baboon can pick up a 300 lb man and tear him literally in two. They can run at 35 miles per hour, and they can jump 15-20 feet in the air. So I don't think you are going to outrun these. And their plan is to create supersoldiers."

My next screenname on the Org is gonna be ModifiedAttackBabboon

OMG - I live near Galveston, Texas. I had no idea there is a squadron of modified attack baboons in my backyard!!!!!!! I'd better step up my workouts!!!!!!

But can you believe it? I've lived near Galveston, Texas for about 54 years, and in all that time there hasn't been ONE RECORDED ATTACK by any of these baboons!

Best behaved baboons EVER!

Several people on the radio show, those talking about the ecosystem is what interested me.

You may have figured that had you listened to it.

Cloudbuster said:

Several people on the radio show, those talking about the ecosystem is what interested me.

You may have figured that had you listened to it.

Please tell them to not let the Modified Attack Baboons loose, because they'd probably end up in my neighborhood.

TIA!

RodeoSchro said:

Please tell them to not let the Modified Attack Baboons loose, because they'd probably end up in my neighborhood.

TIA!

Well if they do you can introduce them to the imaginary god that you worship and believe in.

As they're both creations from the same deluded head space they'd probably get along just fine.

Cloudbuster said:

RodeoSchro said:

Please tell them to not let the Modified Attack Baboons loose, because they'd probably end up in my neighborhood.

TIA!

Well if they do you can introduce them to the imaginary god that you worship and believe in.

As they're both creations from the same deluded head space they'd probably get along just fine.

Ah, stooping to the religious argument now, eh? Some might call that "arrogant", LOL.

I guess right about now is a good time to tell you that your expert, Dr. Bill Deagle, also believes in the same God.

Game, set, match. Nice try, though.

shades of P&R.

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XxAxX said:

shades of P&R.

50 Shades Of P&R

Byron said:

XxAxX said:

shades of P&R.

50 Shades Of P&R

It was going pretty good until wee little cloudie played the "War on Christianity!" card, but he forgot that his own "expert" was covered by the same card, LOL.

RodeoSchro said:

Byron said:

50 Shades Of P&R

It was going pretty good until wee little cloudie played the "War on Christianity!" card, but he forgot that his own "expert" was covered by the same card, LOL.

perhaps we can agree that, among the legitimate christian groups and among the legitimate chemtrail groups, there are a few 'fringers'.

by fringers, i mean those who make the entire group seem qustionable.

for example, extreme right wing christians who blow up family planning clinics are bad. those freaks make christianity look like weird science. some of their claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where they are coming from.

concurrently, we have the bill deagles of the world. also a fringer, also making the entire group of chemtrail theorists look more than a little skewed. some of his claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where he is coming from.

however, imo , the presence of these fringers in the main group does not mean the group is wrong.

as to the war on christianity, i think you might have taken the point the wrong way, and twisted Cloudy's intent. he was simply speaking to the lack of empirical evidence and the necessity of faith required to beleive in God. these are true facts. all christians must take a leap of faith

this is similar to the suspension of disbielief you will need to exercise in order to remain openminded enough to regard the evidence of chemtrails neutrally.

make no mistake: if ONLY for the purpose of climate control, chemtrails are a FACT. hyperfine quartz dust, alumina silicate, sulfate, silver nitrate and a silica polymer, are being and have been released into our upper atmosphere in order to enhance the clouds' function as reflective light barriers, to reduce global warming, cool the planet and bring about rain. this is open and obvious, there is no conspiracy theory about this. look it up.

as to the more complex chemtrails alleged to be in our atmosphere, and the motives of those placing them there, right now it is anyone's guess as to what is going on.

Cloudbuster said:

This is some kinda bizzare commercial flight path, innit.

and what eaxtly is bizarre here, Cloudy?
and no, I won't watch five hours of video JAQing off, only to find out if the video possibly could answer, what is bizarre for YOU in THIS picture

bizarre it could be, but only in a wind-free world

look, flight A passes the flight route. then the wind moves its contrail 100 meters to the side. right.
5 minutes later flight B passes the same flight route. then the wind moves its contrail 100 meters to the side. right.

5 minutes later flight C passes the same flight route. then the wind moves its contrail 100 meters to the side. right.

5 minutes later flight D..... well, I think you get it

so seriously, what is bizarre? when the wind is blowing with a certain speed from a certain angle lets say 45 degrees to a North-South route and also 45 degrees to an East-West route, then anyting else than above pattern would be indeed bizarre

but if you disagree, please explain WHAT pattern would YOU expect then?

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Cloudbuster said:

I see skies looking like this and have to wonder what's going on

wind. it is called WIND.

so those pictures heavily support the theory of the existance of "wind" in our atmosphere.

groundbreaking

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I very rarely see these trails here in Australia. The only time I do is when a 747 flies over from Sydney to Johannesburg and is very VERY high up.

I saw them all over the sky in Stockholm. I even had to ask my cousin the pilot why I saw them there but not at home and he said it was because of ice-crystals in the atmosphere and in Australia at lower altitudes it simply isn't that cold.

XxAxX said:

perhaps we can agree that, among the legitimate christian groups and among the legitimate chemtrail groups, there are a few 'fringers'.

by fringers, i mean those who make the entire group seem qustionable.

for example, extreme right wing christians who blow up family planning clinics are bad. those freaks make christianity look like weird science. some of their claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where they are coming from.

concurrently, we have the bill deagles of the world. also a fringer, also making the entire group of chemtrail theorists look more than a little skewed. some of his claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where he is coming from.

however, imo , the presence of these fringers in the main group does not mean the group is wrong.

as to the war on christianity, i think you might have taken the point the wrong way, and twisted Cloudy's intent. he was simply speaking to the lack of empirical evidence and the necessity of faith required to believe in God. these are true facts. all christians must take a leap of faith

this is similar to the suspension of disbielief you will need to exercise in order to remain openminded enough to regard the evidence of chemtrails neutrally.

make no mistake: if ONLY for the purpose of climate control, chemtrails are a FACT. hyperfine quartz dust, alumina silicate, sulfate, silver nitrate and a silica polymer, are being and have been released into our upper atmosphere in order to enhance the clouds' function as reflective light barriers, to reduce global warming, cool the planet and bring about rain. this is open and obvious, there is no conspiracy theory about this. look it up.

as to the more complex chemtrails alleged to be in our atmosphere, and the motives of those placing them there, right now it is anyone's guess as to what is going on.

XxAxX said:

RodeoSchro said:

It was going pretty good until wee little cloudie played the "War on Christianity!" card, but he forgot that his own "expert" was covered by the same card, LOL.

perhaps we can agree that, among the legitimate christian groups and among the legitimate chemtrail groups, there are a few 'fringers'.

by fringers, i mean those who make the entire group seem qustionable.

for example, extreme right wing christians who blow up family planning clinics are bad. those freaks make christianity look like weird science. some of their claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where they are coming from.

concurrently, we have the bill deagles of the world. also a fringer, also making the entire group of chemtrail theorists look more than a little skewed. some of his claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where he is coming from.

however, imo , the presence of these fringers in the main group does not mean the group is wrong.

as to the war on christianity, i think you might have taken the point the wrong way, and twisted Cloudy's intent. he was simply speaking to the lack of empirical evidence and the necessity of faith required to beleive in God. these are true facts. all christians must take a leap of faith

this is similar to the suspension of disbielief you will need to exercise in order to remain openminded enough to regard the evidence of chemtrails neutrally.

make no mistake: if ONLY for the purpose of climate control, chemtrails are a FACT. hyperfine quartz dust, alumina silicate, sulfate, silver nitrate and a silica polymer, are being and have been released into our upper atmosphere in order to enhance the clouds' function as reflective light barriers, to reduce global warming, cool the planet and bring about rain. this is open and obvious, there is no conspiracy theory about this. look it up.

as to the more complex chemtrails alleged to be in our atmosphere, and the motives of those placing them there, right now it is anyone's guess as to what is going on.

I don't know if we should label our wee little cloudie as a "fringer". I DO know that he came into this thread under false pretenses. Frankly, I'm surprised that a die-hard conspiracist like cloudie would do that, since we all know he subscribes to any and every conspiracy out there. However, I can only conclude he did that as a ruse to fool Supa into thinking he had an open mind, should be listened to, and then could shape Supa's thinking on yet another whacko conspiracy.

Please do not insult me or the board with this rigamarole about "cloud seeding = chemtrails". Our little cloudie could not care less about cloud seeding. In his world, chemtrails are important only because "They" are controlling us/killing us in many, many nefarious ways, "chemtrails" being only one of the ways. This, of course, is utter nonsense. Trying to get it to rain is not and has never been on cloudbuster's radar screen and everyone knows that.

Similarly, while I appreciate your attempt to tamp down the wee little cloudie's inflammatory words re: God, and his woefully inadequate attempt above to run from those words, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that his post was not meant in the manner that you characterized it.

He said the "imaginary God" that I "worship and believe in" came from a "deluded head space". Which is weird, because he also referred to the Modified Attack Baboons having been manufactured in the same "deluded head space". But in this case, the deluded head space to which he refers belongs to Dr. Bill Deagle - a Christian , and the person whom he posted four separate YouTube interviews in order to make his own case about chemtrails. In little cloudie's flailing attempt to interject God into this discussion, he completely overlooked that he was also destroying the credibility of his own source for facts (not that Deagle didn't pretty destroy his own credibility, LOL).

Classic!

http://morgellonsresearchgroup.com/

http://www.skizit.biz/

http://rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/01/12/neurologist-warns-aluminum-in-chemtrails-could-cause-explosive-increase-in-neurodegenerative-diseases/

http://www.guardian.co.uk...calscience

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RodeoSchro said:

XxAxX said:

perhaps we can agree that, among the legitimate christian groups and among the legitimate chemtrail groups, there are a few 'fringers'.

by fringers, i mean those who make the entire group seem qustionable.

for example, extreme right wing christians who blow up family planning clinics are bad. those freaks make christianity look like weird science. some of their claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where they are coming from.

concurrently, we have the bill deagles of the world. also a fringer, also making the entire group of chemtrail theorists look more than a little skewed. some of his claims and rationale are so outlandish it is hard to see where he is coming from.

however, imo , the presence of these fringers in the main group does not mean the group is wrong.

as to the war on christianity, i think you might have taken the point the wrong way, and twisted Cloudy's intent. he was simply speaking to the lack of empirical evidence and the necessity of faith required to beleive in God. these are true facts. all christians must take a leap of faith

this is similar to the suspension of disbielief you will need to exercise in order to remain openminded enough to regard the evidence of chemtrails neutrally.

make no mistake: if ONLY for the purpose of climate control, chemtrails are a FACT. hyperfine quartz dust, alumina silicate, sulfate, silver nitrate and a silica polymer, are being and have been released into our upper atmosphere in order to enhance the clouds' function as reflective light barriers, to reduce global warming, cool the planet and bring about rain. this is open and obvious, there is no conspiracy theory about this. look it up.

as to the more complex chemtrails alleged to be in our atmosphere, and the motives of those placing them there, right now it is anyone's guess as to what is going on.

I don't know if we should label our wee little cloudie as a "fringer". I DO know that he came into this thread under false pretenses. Frankly, I'm surprised that a die-hard conspiracist like cloudie would do that, since we all know he subscribes to any and every conspiracy out there. However, I can only conclude he did that as a ruse to fool Supa into thinking he had an open mind, should be listened to, and then could shape Supa's thinking on yet another whacko conspiracy.

Please do not insult me or the board with this rigamarole about "cloud seeding = chemtrails". Our little cloudie could not care less about cloud seeding. In his world, chemtrails are important only because "They" are controlling us/killing us in many, many nefarious ways, "chemtrails" being only one of the ways. This, of course, is utter nonsense. Trying to get it to rain is not and has never been on cloudbuster's radar screen and everyone knows that.

Similarly, while I appreciate your attempt to tamp down the wee little cloudie's inflammatory words re: God, and his woefully inadequate attempt above to run from those words, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that his post was not meant in the manner that you characterized it.

He said the "imaginary God" that I "worship and believe in" came from a "deluded head space". Which is weird, because he also referred to the Modified Attack Baboons having been manufactured in the same "deluded head space". But in this case, the deluded head space to which he refers belongs to Dr. Bill Deagle - a Christian , and the person whom he posted four separate YouTube interviews in order to make his own case about chemtrails. In little cloudie's flailing attempt to interject God into this discussion, he completely overlooked that he was also destroying the credibility of his own source for facts (not that Deagle didn't pretty destroy his own credibility, LOL).

Classic!

stop. you are no longer really addressing the topic, you have a personal vendetta going.

XxAxX said:

RodeoSchro said:

I don't know if we should label our wee little cloudie as a "fringer". I DO know that he came into this thread under false pretenses. Frankly, I'm surprised that a die-hard conspiracist like cloudie would do that, since we all know he subscribes to any and every conspiracy out there. However, I can only conclude he did that as a ruse to fool Supa into thinking he had an open mind, should be listened to, and then could shape Supa's thinking on yet another whacko conspiracy.

Please do not insult me or the board with this rigamarole about "cloud seeding = chemtrails". Our little cloudie could not care less about cloud seeding. In his world, chemtrails are important only because "They" are controlling us/killing us in many, many nefarious ways, "chemtrails" being only one of the ways. This, of course, is utter nonsense. Trying to get it to rain is not and has never been on cloudbuster's radar screen and everyone knows that.

Similarly, while I appreciate your attempt to tamp down the wee little cloudie's inflammatory words re: God, and his woefully inadequate attempt above to run from those words, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that his post was not meant in the manner that you characterized it.

He said the "imaginary God" that I "worship and believe in" came from a "deluded head space". Which is weird, because he also referred to the Modified Attack Baboons having been manufactured in the same "deluded head space". But in this case, the deluded head space to which he refers belongs to Dr. Bill Deagle - a Christian , and the person whom he posted four separate YouTube interviews in order to make his own case about chemtrails. In little cloudie's flailing attempt to interject God into this discussion, he completely overlooked that he was also destroying the credibility of his own source for facts (not that Deagle didn't pretty destroy his own credibility, LOL).

Classic!

stop. you are no longer really addressing the topic, you have a personal vendetta going.

I'm not the one that made this personal. It wasn't me that called someone "arrogant", nor did I bring up the subject of one's personal religious beliefs, and claimed they came from a "deluded head".

Let the wee one fight his own battles, if he can.

but at this point, the thread is totally derailed. can't we just discuss the topic? does it always have to be about you the war on christianity? here's a short history lesson about christianity for you: research the story of the city of alexandria and the death of hipatia.

anyway, back to the topic: have you watched even one of the clips? you dismissed cloud seeding as unrelated to chemtrails, however, cloud seeding ios by definition part of the phenomenon we are discussing. cloud seeding is the placement of chemical and elemental agents into the atmosphere.

do you approve of the fact that China is leading the way in weather control, cloud seeding and other actions, given that china is not exactly dedicated to environmental safety????

I didn't bring up God - our wee little friend did. So why you would ascribe that "derailment" to me is a mystery.

Yes, I have watched some of the videos, but I certainly haven't watched the entirety of any of the hour-plus long videos. Especially after little cloudie said they didn't provide enough information for him to form any kind of opinion at all.

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with cloud seeding.

my personal definition of "chemtrails' includes cloud seeding and other forms of weather control.

but for the sake of argument, let's assume that the definition of 'chemtrails' is "those chemicals, particulates and elements which have been introduced into our atmosphere as part of an ongoing plot against human beings for nefarious purposes which are contrary to the wellbeing of americans."

based upon this description above, and asuming you are willing, tell me what you object to most about accepting the idea of chemtrails:

1. you disbelieve that any such program exists because there could be no possible motive for such an endeavor;

2. you feel that the very notion of someone engaging in a long term plot to control or affect the american people's physical well-being is outlandish on the very face of it and rumors of such are likely no more than the result of unmedicated psychosis on a large scale;

3. you think that a project like using chemtrails would be nigh unto impossible without divine intervention because who could possibly spray that much land mass and effect a noticeable change;

4. you believe there cannot possible be any threat of chemtrails because you trust the american government and all its branches, especially its squeaky clean military defense subcontractors, for ex: halliburton, KBG, parsons et al. and assume they will always work for americans, and not against them and certainly never on unsanctioned projects of their own like they did in iraq while robbing the american public blind;

5. other

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XxAxX said:

my personal definition of "chemtrails' includes cloud seeding and other forms of weather control.

but for the sake of argument, let's assume that the definition of 'chemtrails' is "those chemicals, particulates and elements which have been introduced into our atmosphere as part of an ongoing plot against human beings for nefarious purposes which are contrary to the wellbeing of americans."

based upon this description above, and asuming you are willing, tell me what you object to most about accepting the idea of chemtrails:

First of all, I will accept your definition of "chemtrails" for the purposes of this argument, but I will not accept the existence of them one iota. Later on, you have a question that presupposes the existence of "chemtrails" as you defined them, and I reject that supposition on its face.

1. you disbelieve that any such program exists because there could be no possible motive for such an endeavor;

Absolutely. There isn't anyone or any organization trying to take over the world. Remember - James Bond movies are fiction. There is not now, and never has been, a Goldfinger.

2. you feel that the very notion of someone engaging in a long term plot to control or affect the american people's physical well-being is outlandish on the very face of it and rumors of such are likely no more than the result of unmedicated psychosis on a large scale;

Totally outlandish. First of all, how many people are needed to pull off a long-term plot to control hundreds of millions of people? Why, thousands if not tens of thousands. Do you really think, say, 15,000 people could keep a secret? And if this is a "long-term" plot, those 15,000 people have turned over several times, so we're talking, say, 45K - 60K people over time. There's just no way that many people could keep a secret. And how do you recruit people into this program? Surely some would say "No" and then spill the beans. The logisitics of a secret program that's this old and this big are just impossible.

3. you think that a project like using chemtrails would be nigh unto impossible without divine intervention because who could possibly spray that much land mass and effect a noticeable change;

Of course. I've already explained how it's physically impossible to spray something at 45,000 feet, have it pass through hurricane-force winds, and make it to Earth in any kind of concentrated form. Think about crop-dusting. You've seen that, right? All they are trying to kill are bugs. Not big old humans that would take a dusting of any chemical to be affected - TINY LITTLE BUGS. A granule or two should kill a bug, right? To do that, they have to spray their chemicals at 25 feet or so above the ground - or lower. Why? Because altitude and wind disperse the agent. So if we have to be at 25 feet to kill BUGS, how could we possibly affect humans when spraying from 45,000 feet? It's impossible!

4. you believe there cannot possible be any threat of chemtrails because you trust the american government and all its branches, especially its squeaky clean military defense subcontractors, for ex: halliburton, KBG, parsons et al. and assume they will always work for americans, and not against them and certainly never on unsanctioned projects of their own like they did in iraq while robbing the american public blind;

That question is too ridiculous to be answered. No offense. There is no threat of chemtrails because there is no such thing as chemtrails.

5. other

Not sure what else there is to say other than there is no such thing as chemtrails or any kind of chemtrail conspiracty whatsoever.

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thank you for sharing your opinion. that was enlightening and i can see that you and i are not at all on the same page here, nor do we agree about what is happening.


because this thread is entitled 'Chemtrail Believers" and because it seems that you may feel anger over the very idea of chemtrails, and because your rebuttals of support for the existence of chemtrails which has been posted here have been quite lively, why do you spend time on this thread?


for example, when i see threads about prince's girlfriends i know they will be poopy and full of supposition and imagination and i avoid them like the plague.

i would think you'd do the same thing here, as pertains to chemtrails.


are you trying to save us from ourselves?????


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XxAxX said:

thank you for sharing your opinion. that was enlightening and i can see that you and i are not at all on the same page here, nor do we agree about what is happening.


because this thread is entitled 'Chemtrail Believers" and because it seems that you may feel anger over the very idea of chemtrails, and because your rebuttals of support for the existence of chemtrails which has been posted here have been quite lively, why do you spend time on this thread?


for example, when i see threads about prince's girlfriends i know they will be poopy and full of supposition and imagination and i avoid them like the plague.

i would think you'd do the same thing here, as pertains to chemtrails.


are you trying to save us from ourselves?????


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[Edited 6/4/13 6:03am]

Supa wanted a discussion. Read the first 20 replies.

He got one, and poor little cloudie couldn't handle it and ended up bringing my religious beliefs into the discussion.

As I said, Supa started this thread and if he wants me to leave it, I will. But I have a feeling he wants to hear both sides of the discussion - not just one side.

He practically begged cloudie to put forth a position, which cloudie totally refused to do.

What would be your response if you asked someone about a subject and they said, "Here - watch 5 hours of video on it. By the way, I watched these videos and am absolutely no closer to an opinion than I was before I invested 5 hours of my life but by all means - watch them anyway"?

I don't feel any anger at all; I am, however, extremely leery of the wee cloudie's statements that he doesn't know what to think re: chemtrails. If you think he has no opinion on the existence of, and conspiracy related to, "chemtrails" then you aren't paying attention.