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Angelina Jolie had double masectomy to prevent against getting breast cancer

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Angelina Jolie Writes She Had Double Mastectomy

May 14, 2013 5:15 AM

Angelina Jolie says that she has had a preventive double mastectomy after learning she carried a gene that made it extremely likely she would get breast cancer.

The Oscar-winning actress and partner to Brad Pitt made the announcement in the form of an op-ed she authored for Tuesday'sNew York Times under the headline, "My Medical Choice." She writes that between early February and late April she completed three months of surgical procedures to remove both breasts.

Jolie, 37, writes that she made the choice with thoughts of her six children after watching her own mother die too young from breast cancer.

"My mother fought cancer for almost a decade and died at 56," Jolie writes. "She held out long enough to meet the first of her grandchildren and to hold them in her arms. But my other children will never have the chance to know her and experience how loving and gracious she was."

She writes that, "They have asked if the same could happen to me."

Jolie said that after genetic testing she learned she carries the "faulty" BRCA1 gene and had an 87 percent chance of getting the disease herself.

She said she has kept the process private so far, but wrote about with hopes of helping other women.

"I wanted to write this to tell other women that the decision to have a mastectomy was not easy. But it is one I am very happy that I made," Jolie writes. "My chances of developing breast cancer have dropped from 87 percent to under 5 percent. I can tell my children that they don't need to fear they will lose me to breast cancer."

Phone and email messages left by The Associated Press late Monday night seeking comment from Jolie representatives were not immediately returned.

She is anything but private in the details she provides, giving a step-by-step description of the procedures.

"My own process began on Feb. 2 with a procedure known as a 'nipple delay,'" she writes, "which rules out disease in the breast ducts behind the nipple and draws extra blood flow to the area."

She then describes the major surgery two weeks later where breast tissue was removed, saying it felt "like a scene out of a science-fiction film," then writes that nine weeks later she had a third surgery to reconstruct the breasts and receive implants."

Many women have chosen preventive mastectomy since genetic screening for breast cancer was developed, but the move and public announcement is unprecedented from a star so young and widely known as Jolie.

She briefly addresses the effects of the surgery on the idealized sexuality and iconic womanhood that have fueled her fame.

"I do not feel any less of a woman," Jolie writes. "I feel empowered that I made a strong choice that in no way diminishes my femininity."

She also wrote that Brad Pitt, her partner of eight years, was at the Pink Lotus Breast Center in Southern California for "every minute of the surgeries."

Jolie, daughter of Hollywood luminary Jon Voight, has appeared in dozens of films including 2010's The Tourist and Salt, the "Tomb Raider films, and 1999's Girl, Interrupted, for which she won an Academy Award.

But she has appeared more often in the news in recent years for her power coupling with Pitt and her charitable work with refugees as a United Nations ambassador.

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Reply #1 posted 05/14/13 5:58am

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i read about that. good for her but... ouch

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Reply #2 posted 05/14/13 9:36am

Empress

Good luck to Angelina. I think she's a class act. She seems like a person on a mission and I love her enthusiam and courage.

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Reply #3 posted 05/14/13 4:43pm

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Wow, what a brave move, an 85% chance of developing breast cancer is so high, I think I would do the same in her shoes. Hopefully the media will give her a break for a while to fully recover both mentally and physically.
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Reply #4 posted 05/14/13 4:51pm

Timmy84

I don't wanna sound harsh but:

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Couldn't she wait until she got it? If she just got a scare, that would've saved her the money but I guess more power to her so whatever right?

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Reply #5 posted 05/14/13 5:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

I don't wanna sound harsh but:

[img:$uid]http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/images/profiles/characters/aretha-franklin.jpg[/img:$uid]

Couldn't she wait until she got it? If she just got a scare, that would've saved her the money but I guess more power to her so whatever right?

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Are you kidding me?

That's some harsh shit, right there.

Wait until she got it? Cancer, you mean? Wait until she got cancer to do what? Have the masectomy then, possibly, die.

I, as a male, had a breast cancer scare, two years ago. Yes, it's rare with males but it still happens. And my doctor told me that there's probably more cases out there but men don't ever think to check. I did. I felt a lump under my nipple and guess what they found? They had to go in there and get it out. And now, every time a thyroid gland swells up I'm sent into a nervous panick. It's not a fun way to live. And I can tell you that when the doctor mentioned cancer my first thought was denial. There, I was, a gay male that practiced safe sex all his life, to prevent getting HIV and then this happened. It shocked me. And it happens quick too. I was diagnosed on a Monday and went under the knife by Thursday of the same week.

I applaud Angelina for this. She's got kids to think about and all that, but more importantly, for someone who is famous for her beauty, this had to be a complex and brave decision.

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Reply #6 posted 05/14/13 5:08pm

Timmy84

I did say it might come off harsh but hey if this helps her, more power to her.

I just don't agree with it so call it disrespectful but eh... but I applaud those that survive that shit and live their lives breastless. But like I said, good for her if this helps her avoid it. That's all I'm saying.

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Reply #7 posted 05/14/13 5:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

I did say it might come off harsh but hey if this helps her, more power to her.

I just don't agree with it so call it disrespectful but eh... but I applaud those that survive that shit and live their lives breastless. But like I said, good for her if this helps her avoid it. That's all I'm saying.

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Yes, you did. And I apologize if I came out swinging.

I'm a fool. I took a comment on the internet personal.

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literal people scare me
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Reply #8 posted 05/14/13 5:19pm

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More power to her for preventing herself from getting breast cancer, however, what about other types of cancer? Liver, throat, pancreas, anal, skin, lung, stomach, ovarian, cervical, etc. Is she going to get rid of these parts too to prevent herself from getting cancer? I'm not trying to be an asshole but it would be really ironic that she's had a mastectomy to prevent breast cancer but then ends up getting a whole different type of cancer (God forbid). I'm just saying, life can give folks a strange twist of fate sometimes.
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Reply #9 posted 05/14/13 5:22pm

Timmy84

TheResistor said:

Timmy84 said:

I did say it might come off harsh but hey if this helps her, more power to her.

I just don't agree with it so call it disrespectful but eh... but I applaud those that survive that shit and live their lives breastless. But like I said, good for her if this helps her avoid it. That's all I'm saying.

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Yes, you did. And I apologize if I came out swinging.

I'm a fool. I took a comment on the internet personal.

That's alright. I understand. nod No problems. smile

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Reply #10 posted 05/14/13 6:00pm

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It's her choice, obviously, but I do think it's kind of extreme when you don't know for certain you will get it. 85% is high, yes, but it's not 100%.

I imagine that if it was me, I would use the knowledge to monitor the situation more closely--especially considering her resources. But she has a history of extreme acts, and I don't. Plus, with plastic surgery these days...

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Reply #11 posted 05/14/13 6:15pm

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I understand her fear and can only respect her choice but what she has done is irreversable.


I think we should consider the fact there are alternative ways to prevent and even treat cancer without undergoing the massivley intrusive chemo therapy, which has proven to be ineffective most of the time.

There are holistic treatment methods out there that are proven (by people who had cancer and holistic doctors) to be highly effective. Cancer thrives in the body due to lack of oxygen. This is the reason it spreads like a mold or fungus. High alkaline organic diet in conjunction with other natural remedies can help.

One of my friends has studied orthomolecular medicine (this describes the practice of preventing and treating diseases by providing the body with optimal amounts of substances which are natural to the body) and her mother survived breast, lung and colon cancer by completely changing her diet.


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Reply #12 posted 05/14/13 7:55pm

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Empress said:

Good luck to Angelina. I think she's a class act. She seems like a person on a mission and I love her enthusiam and courage.

Agreed.

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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
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Reply #13 posted 05/14/13 8:06pm

Timmy84

MacDaddy said:

I understand her fear and can only respect her choice but what she has done is irreversable.


I think we should consider the fact there are alternative ways to prevent and even treat cancer without undergoing the massivley intrusive chemo therapy, which has proven to be ineffective most of the time.

There are holistic treatment methods out there that are proven (by people who had cancer and holistic doctors) to be highly effective. Cancer thrives in the body due to lack of oxygen. This is the reason it spreads like a mold or fungus. High alkaline organic diet in conjunction with other natural remedies can help.

One of my friends has studied orthomolecular medicine (this describes the practice of preventing and treating diseases by providing the body with optimal amounts of substances which are natural to the body) and her mother survived breast, lung and colon cancer by completely changing her diet.


Interesting. hmmm

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Reply #14 posted 05/14/13 8:34pm

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Timmy84 said:

I don't wanna sound harsh but:

[img:$uid]http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/images/profiles/characters/aretha-franklin.jpg[/img:$uid]

Couldn't she wait until she got it? If she just got a scare, that would've saved her the money but I guess more power to her so whatever right?

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Nope--too late. You don't mess around with certain types of vicious, fast-moving, aggressive genetic strains of cancer that exist in the family. Not the same as Angie's but I had to have some preventative surgery and I'm glad I did when I did. I didn't have any cancer...but when my younger sister had the same surgery she already had it...and they caught it just in time... whew

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Reply #15 posted 05/14/13 8:51pm

Timmy84

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't wanna sound harsh but:

[img:$uid]http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/images/profiles/characters/aretha-franklin.jpg[/img:$uid]

Couldn't she wait until she got it? If she just got a scare, that would've saved her the money but I guess more power to her so whatever right?

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Nope--too late. You don't mess around with certain types of vicious, fast-moving, aggressive genetic strains of cancer that exist in the family. Not the same as Angie's but I had to have some preventative surgery and I'm glad I did when I did. I didn't have any cancer...but when my younger sister had the same surgery she already had it...and they caught it just in time... whew

Hmm. That's another way to look at it.

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Reply #16 posted 05/14/13 8:57pm

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Timmy84 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Nope--too late. You don't mess around with certain types of vicious, fast-moving, aggressive genetic strains of cancer that exist in the family. Not the same as Angie's but I had to have some preventative surgery and I'm glad I did when I did. I didn't have any cancer...but when my younger sister had the same surgery she already had it...and they caught it just in time... whew

Hmm. That's another way to look at it.

Totally different perspective when it isn't a hypothetical discussion and one is actually going through it. razz

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Reply #17 posted 05/14/13 9:08pm

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Given what she went through with her mom I don't blame her. 85% is a scary percentage.
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Reply #18 posted 05/14/13 10:41pm

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Given that she also has a 50% chance of Ovarian cancer, I wonder if she will have those removed later as well, particularly since Ovarian cancer is so hard to detect? Hopefully these genetic tests will start to come down in cost, so more people can have access to them.
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Reply #19 posted 05/15/13 1:10am

MacDaddy

A question for the men, if testicular cancer has happend in your family would you consider having your testicles removed? And what if there is a history of colon cancer, lung cancer or whatever form of cancer?


Cancer cells are present in everyone's body. Cancer is a systemic problem when it emerges, not a local problem limited to just the breasts or other organs. It may be diagnosed in breast tissues, but that's not the only place it's growing. The idea that you can prevent cancer by just removing their breasts is absurd.


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Reply #20 posted 05/15/13 1:21am

Timmy84

MacDaddy said:

A question for the men, if testicular cancer has happend in your family would you consider having your testicles removed? And what if there is a history of colon cancer, lung cancer or whatever form of cancer?


Cancer cells are present in everyone's body. Cancer is a systemic problem when it emerges, not a local problem limited to just the breasts or other organs. It may be diagnosed in breast tissues, but that's not the only place it's growing. The idea that you can prevent cancer by just removing their breasts is absurd.


I know I wouldn't. But by any chance Jolie still gets breast cancer even after all of this, it probably wouldn't surprise me.

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Reply #21 posted 05/15/13 6:31am

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Timmy84 said:

I don't wanna sound harsh but:

[img:$uid]http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/images/profiles/characters/aretha-franklin.jpg[/img:$uid]

Couldn't she wait until she got it? If she just got a scare, that would've saved her the money but I guess more power to her so whatever right?

[Edited 5/14/13 16:51pm]

Seriously though, having literally watched someone die from Cancer exactly a year ago, seeing them gasping in pain and weakness on a morphine drip, before they take their last breath, and their soul leaves their body, Cancer is not a disease that you want to wait to get. The decline that they endure before they finally descend into an agonizing slow road to death is horrific, almost like watching a body slowly decay in the last days of life. the pain that racks cancer victims even inhibits their ability to form words and speak in the last days; they just gargle sounds while their eyes plead desperately with yours to be somehow understood.

There's is no cure for this. And even if they can erase as many of the diseased cells as possible from your body with radiation, there is agonizing physical suffering involved with chemo, and there is no guarantee that the disease won't return and just finish you off. Looking at the numbers of her moving from an 87% chance of getting it to an under 5% chance? The time, physical discomfort and money invested in having this preventative procedure is peanuts compared to what would happen once she would be struck by the disease. And, all doom and gloom aside, after pushing out & breastfeeding 3 of those 6 kids herself, Momma even gets a perky new set of boobies out of the deal. Besides, even without Brad's salary, I think Jolie's up to $20 Million per film now, so whatever she spent on her preventative surgeries, Homegirl is not going to miss those coins, 'specially considering an 87% chance of death vs. life hangs in the balance. magnify

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Lammastide said:

Empress said:

Good luck to Angelina. I think she's a class act. She seems like a person on a mission and I love her enthusiam and courage.

Agreed.


This sums up my opinion as well.

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Reply #23 posted 05/15/13 6:34am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't wanna sound harsh but:

[img:$uid]http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/images/profiles/characters/aretha-franklin.jpg[/img:$uid]

Couldn't she wait until she got it? If she just got a scare, that would've saved her the money but I guess more power to her so whatever right?

[Edited 5/14/13 16:51pm]

Nope--too late. You don't mess around with certain types of vicious, fast-moving, aggressive genetic strains of cancer that exist in the family. Not the same as Angie's but I had to have some preventative surgery and I'm glad I did when I did. I didn't have any cancer...but when my younger sister had the same surgery she already had it...and they caught it just in time... whew

Whoaaa. I'm glad it worked out for the good. heart

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naffi said:

Given that she also has a 50% chance of Ovarian cancer, I wonder if she will have those removed later as well, particularly since Ovarian cancer is so hard to detect? Hopefully these genetic tests will start to come down in cost, so more people can have access to them.

She is indeed having her ovaries removed as well.
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Reply #25 posted 05/15/13 9:41am

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Ottensen said:

Seriously though, having literally watched someone die from Cancer exactly a year ago, seeing them gasping in pain and weakness on a morphine drip, before they take their last breath, and their soul leaves their body, Cancer is not a disease that you want to wait to get. The decline that they endure before they finally descend into an agonizing slow road to death is horrific, almost like watching a body slowly decay in the last days of life. the pain that racks cancer victims even inhibits their ability to form words and speak in the last days; they just gargle sounds while their eyes plead desperately with yours to be somehow understood.

There's is no cure for this. And even if they can erase as many of the diseased cells as possible from your body with radiation, there is agonizing physical suffering involved with chemo, and there is no guarantee that the disease won't return and just finish you off. Looking at the numbers of her moving from an 87% chance of getting it to an under 5% chance? The time, physical discomfort and money invested in having this preventative procedure is peanuts compared to what would happen once she would be struck by the disease. And, all doom and gloom aside, after pushing out & breastfeeding 3 of those 6 kids herself, Momma even gets a perky new set of boobies out of the deal. Besides, even without Brad's salary, I think Jolie's up to $20 Million per film now, so whatever she spent on her preventative surgeries, Homegirl is not going to miss those coins, 'specially considering an 87% chance of death vs. life hangs in the balance. magnify



But there is, and it's not chemo. I know people who have completley recovered from cancer by drastically changing their diet.

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MacDaddy said:

Ottensen said:

Seriously though, having literally watched someone die from Cancer exactly a year ago, seeing them gasping in pain and weakness on a morphine drip, before they take their last breath, and their soul leaves their body, Cancer is not a disease that you want to wait to get. The decline that they endure before they finally descend into an agonizing slow road to death is horrific, almost like watching a body slowly decay in the last days of life. the pain that racks cancer victims even inhibits their ability to form words and speak in the last days; they just gargle sounds while their eyes plead desperately with yours to be somehow understood.

There's is no cure for this. And even if they can erase as many of the diseased cells as possible from your body with radiation, there is agonizing physical suffering involved with chemo, and there is no guarantee that the disease won't return and just finish you off. Looking at the numbers of her moving from an 87% chance of getting it to an under 5% chance? The time, physical discomfort and money invested in having this preventative procedure is peanuts compared to what would happen once she would be struck by the disease. And, all doom and gloom aside, after pushing out & breastfeeding 3 of those 6 kids herself, Momma even gets a perky new set of boobies out of the deal. Besides, even without Brad's salary, I think Jolie's up to $20 Million per film now, so whatever she spent on her preventative surgeries, Homegirl is not going to miss those coins, 'specially considering an 87% chance of death vs. life hangs in the balance. magnify



But there is, and it's not chemo. I know people who have completley recovered from cancer by drastically changing their diet.

I am familiar with orthomolecular medicine (albeit a bit skeptical) and I´ve also heard of the benefits of an alkaline diet. Do you have any links to some websites that you´d recommend?

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Reply #27 posted 05/15/13 12:33pm

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naffi said:
Given that she also has a 50% chance of Ovarian cancer, I wonder if she will have those removed later as well, particularly since Ovarian cancer is so hard to detect? Hopefully these genetic tests will start to come down in cost, so more people can have access to them.
She is indeed having her ovaries removed as well.

They had on the news this morning a nurse who actually had her ovaries removed first then had the masectomy done both as a preventative measure. Her view was if someone told you that the plane you were going to get on had a 87% chance of crashing but if you take an alternative later flight that has a 5% chance of crashing which would you pick? Her words.

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Reply #28 posted 05/15/13 1:38pm

MacDaddy

KoolEaze said:

MacDaddy said:



But there is, and it's not chemo. I know people who have completley recovered from cancer by drastically changing their diet.

I am familiar with orthomolecular medicine (albeit a bit skeptical) and I´ve also heard of the benefits of an alkaline diet. Do you have any links to some websites that you´d recommend?

I would recommend to check out these:

http://phoenixtears.ca/

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/

http://www.ihealthtube.co...x?s=cancer

And this documentary is definitely worth watching: http://www.realfarmacy.co...full-film/

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