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Star Trek Into Darkness (SPOILER ALERT) goddam what was that?
being a long time trek nerd since early 70ees, I REALLY REALLY loved the reboot 3 years ago. and technically the new one isn't so much different, but still... this time something was just not right.. I think?!
maybe after watching a few more times I'll know better... Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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################ SPOILERS AHEAD ################ and I felt the same for at least an hour during this one as well... we even get a tribble, and the new Klingons also were quite fine, but wasted for a short cameo of 5 minutes? I want an extra movie for them!) no subtle quotes and references anymore, but a direct cut&paste from Wrath of Khan with the reversed Spock saves the ship scene up to screaming "KAHHHHHHHHN!!!!"
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[Edited 5/10/13 7:21am] Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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I only know that everything that MERCENARY called Abrams touches is AVERAGE
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I fear for my star wars. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Are all the damned flares gone, that's one thing I want to know? | |
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**** BIGASS SPOILERS ****
I actually was not expecting him to be Khan at all, so that was a pleasant surprise.
Things I liked:
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morningsong said:Are all the damned flares gone, that's one thing I want to know? Nope still there.. ![]() [Edited 5/13/13 4:57am] [Edited 5/13/13 4:57am] One minute they want peace……
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it IS a pretty good movie indeed. I'm just not sure yet if it is also a good Star Trek movie. if that makes any sense Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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after a few minutes I didn't even notice anymore. same with the first one. Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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I put space shots and admit to using flares in my latest 4 minute short film:
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I guess that's his signature, good to have fair warning. I was so excited by the previews this weekend, can't wait for Friday. | |
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I taught a film class winter semester and showed Star Trek 2, and many of them found it really dated and boring. I was hoping this new trek would be the summer blockbuster that they would all go see on their own, and then, if it is a strange retelling of Trek 2, they might see why Trek2 RULES. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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I didn't read a single thing in this thread since there are spoilers. I'm going to see it tonight with a couple of friends..I planned to see the Friday Mid-night premier showing but they moved the premier showing to freaking Wednesday...Very rare that that happens...... | |
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Saw it tonight and loved it. Last night I watched this...it made the movie that much more interesting.
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Star Trek: Secrets of the Universe (83 min) tv-pg
Will we live in a Star Trek universe someday? Look behind the scenes and into the real science depicted in the movie Star Trek Into Darkness.
Anyone interested in the actual science behind the series and movies must watch this. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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Okay I saw it, and it hit me like a very pretty piece of fluff / remix of Star Trek II.
A big problem with it is that some characters seem like someone doing a staged recreation of a classic character, but in a fake forced way. Scotty and McCoy... but mainly MCoy doesn't work at all. Seems like I'm watching a skit at a convention.
The effects are amazing, but the new lumpy style of design for spaceships is creating ships from movie to movie in different franchises that have no identity or conscise memorable style. I'm looking at the Klingon ships, police vehicles, and other "extra" ships with this critique.
The story... again there seems to be some kind of imbalance with the set pieces and the integrity of the character moments and the feel of the story as it unfolds. Seem like a half baked story given royal treatment. Absolutely hate that original Spock is in it. that part gives me the mood of a holiday special for network tv...
And I don't know how I feel about a remix alternate version of Trek 2. It's like the technique of effects and score and editing are so great, but the art of the story is atrophied into artificial calculated moments and echoes.
The performances of all the main leads are great.
The effects are spectacular.
The lens flares do get funny.
Well those were my firs thoughts. I did have fun watching it!
I hope my whole class sees it, and then they see how it relates to Star Trek 2, but without all the cool literary references and great script structure that 2 has. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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![]() . Outside of that, I enjoyed the heck out of it. It seems they got away from making a bunch of possible science mistakes and just stuck with stockpiling this movie with technology. Loved seeing the Earth cities and having some idea how everyday people lived. The Enterprise felt like one of the crew again, during the movie I thought back on how much I cried seeing it destroyed in ST III. Loved more of Scotty in this one I felt he was short changed in the last one. Pine reflected Shatner which I found interesting. The more "emotionally" Spock was different. I'm seeing this sucker again. And the flares I think I enjoyed them more they did seem to add a dimension for me this time around, they did get annoying a couple of times. And Benedict is a cutey, his face, he can be the cold-blooded monster believably so, but he still seems warm if that makes any sense. | |
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I love 2009's Star Trek and im gonna see into Darkness just for that reason-yes i've been a secret Trekkie for awhile now | |
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I loved the technology. The warp core set was real!! I watched the documentary and it was so fascinating! And btw, I'm in love with Karl Urban!!
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It sucks.
It re-imagines Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, as a prequel. A weak one at that.
It doesn't hold it's internal logic but throws enough explosions to distract.
Kirk is simply unbearable. He becomes 'emotionally compromised,' but unlike Spock, doesn't lose the captain's chair because of it. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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Do you really think they were filming inside a top secret nuclear facility?!!!
The National Ignition Facility, or NIF, is a large, laser-based inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research device located at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, California, USA. NIF uses powerful lasers to heat and compress a small amount of hydrogen fuel to the point where nuclear fusionreactions take place. NIF's mission is to achieve fusion ignition with high energy gain, and to supportnuclear weapon maintenance and design by studying the behavior of matter under the conditions found within nuclear weapons.[1] NIF is the largest and most energetic ICF device built to date. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_Facility
Not so top secret . . . . .
Unless somes proves the Theory of Relativty is wrong, no aren't travelling faster than light, let alone multiple factors times the speed of light.
(I understand you are quoting what someone said in an interview, but that doesn't make it fact.)
[Edited 5/19/13 13:25pm] I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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noimageatall said:
I loved the technology. The warp core set was real!! I watched the documentary and it was so fascinating! And btw, I'm in love with Karl Urban!!
The ship felt very real, like a functioning part of the crew. Since it didn't have an actual voice, it was visual. I thought it was all still part of the brewery it's nice they went to a real science facility, that gave it weight. . And Karl over the years has wormed his way into my heart so, he can do no wrong, except for far too many "I'm a doctor, not a..." references And he's a June 7th baby, also. He's on lock. . Loved the interview. I knew I was going to have to see this movie again, cause I realized I missed so much the first time around.. . The whole 9/11 reference I kind of missed, with the exception of me say " please don't a building, please don't hit a building." It's amazing how raw that nerve still is. [Edited 5/19/13 13:58pm] | |
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SUPRMAN said:
Do you really think they were filming inside a top secret nuclear facility?!!!
The National Ignition Facility, or NIF, is a large, laser-based inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research device located at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, California, USA. NIF uses powerful lasers to heat and compress a small amount of hydrogen fuel to the point where nuclear fusionreactions take place. NIF's mission is to achieve fusion ignition with high energy gain, and to supportnuclear weapon maintenance and design by studying the behavior of matter under the conditions found within nuclear weapons.[1] NIF is the largest and most energetic ICF device built to date. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_Facility
Not so top secret . . . . .
Unless somes proves the Theory of Relativty is wrong, no aren't travelling faster than light, let alone multiple factors times the speed of light.
(I understand you are quoting what someone said in an interview, but that doesn't make it fact.)
[Edited 5/19/13 13:25pm] You do realize you're complaining about the un-realness of the entire Star Trek franchise since they've been traveling multiple times the speed of light since the very beginning. Seems a pointless exercise. | |
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No, that's not what I'm complaining about. I'm complaining about the impossible quotes regarding the 'science' of Star Trek pulled from some interview. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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Yes it did...in the documentary many scientists weighed in on warp speed, time travel, etc. It was very interesting. I also read another interview with Lawrence Krauss, a theoretical physicist. He said, "I don't think we're any closer to warp drive—it was and is still a wild idea. Applying what we know about general relativity, the idea of faster-than-light travel is possible in principle. You can expand space behind you and contract it in front of you and therefore quickly go from one place to another across the galaxy. But the amount of energy required is just unfathomable."
And I feel the same way about Karl. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said:
Yes it did...in the documentary many scientists weighed in on warp speed, time travel, etc. It was very interesting. I also read another interview with Lawrence Krauss, a theoretical physicist. He said, "I don't think we're any closer to warp drive—it was and is still a wild idea. Applying what we know about general relativity, the idea of faster-than-light travel is possible in principle. You can expand space behind you and contract it in front of you and therefore quickly go from one place to another across the galaxy. But the amount of energy required is just unfathomable."
And I feel the same way about Karl. I feel the same way. Who knows what little geniuses who are or who have yet to be given the opportunity will come up with. Folks start thinking like Kelvin, everything worth discovering has already been discovered. . DeForest never used that line that much. There was suppose to be a deeper meaning of the friendship and struggle between the 3 of them which kind of gives Kirk his balance. It's becoming caricature-ish to reduce him to a few funny lines. Nimoy and Shatner went to bat for Kelley about a lot of things it just seems a shame. . I've seen everything he's done except for some NZ episodes of his real younger days. Went from one of the cute guys in LotR to serious anticipation of everything he's in. He has a pilot by JJ Abrams coming out called Human, soon. | |
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SUPRMAN said:
No, that's not what I'm complaining about. I'm complaining about the impossible quotes regarding the 'science' of Star Trek pulled from some interview. Hey you brought up ToR in the middle of all this. It's a movie you did not enjoy it we got that. I enjoyed so many other things about it l besides the reality of a science that doesn't quite exist. Heck I was marveling how creatively he was using all those, uh, beer tanks (that's what I thought they were at the time) and made them look so technical. | |
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Awesome. A lot of brilliant minds out there. . . Oh, check out "The Privateers" (Karl Urban) on YouTube, pte-LotRs, hilariously low budget. A few other of his earlier stuff is on there too, but for this thread "Privateers" is fitting. | |
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