I guess what I'm sayin' here is, "Suck it, Chicago!"

In one more year I'll be relocted to Toronto, hopefully sooner.

Given that Chicago is far more dangerous than Toronto and all.

Just saying.

Cool! For some reason, I thought Toronto was about the size of Minneapolis/St. Paul. Like a "small big city."

I've never been, but I was thinking about going to TCAF this year, if I have time. I've always wanted to explore Toronto. I've heard good things.

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Chicago is far more dangerous than Toronto and all.

Just saying.

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Chicago is far more dangerous than Toronto and all.

Just saying.

It's not that dangerous

Cuddles said:

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Chicago is far more dangerous than Toronto and all.

Just saying.

It's not that dangerous

Sure. Drive-bys and just random killings aren't dangerous...

Timmy84 said:

Cuddles said:

It's not that dangerous

Sure. Drive-bys and just random killings aren't dangerous...

Yeah, right - like that stuff just happens all over the city, all the time.

Genesia said:

Timmy84 said:

Sure. Drive-bys and just random killings aren't dangerous...

Yeah, right - like that stuff just happens all over the city, all the time.

it happens randomly in most cities in the midwest. Some of the msmaller cities in Illinois used to have a higher rate than Chicago.

Genesia said:

Timmy84 said:

Sure. Drive-bys and just random killings aren't dangerous...

Yeah, right - like that stuff just happens all over the city, all the time.

I didn't say it did.

Cuddles said:

In one more year I'll be relocted to Toronto, hopefully sooner.

From Chicago? And what will bring you here?

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Chicago is far more dangerous than Toronto and all.

Just saying.

It's a conspiracy.

Efan said:

Cool! For some reason, I thought Toronto was about the size of Minneapolis/St. Paul. Like a "small big city."

I've never been, but I was thinking about going to TCAF this year, if I have time. I've always wanted to explore Toronto. I've heard good things.

I had to google "TCAF". Yeah, there's no shortage of shit to see and do here.

Ace said:

Cuddles said:

In one more year I'll be relocted to Toronto, hopefully sooner.

From Chicago? And what will bring you here?

Work ( I dont think anyone who lives in Toronto is from Toronto, right?

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Chicago is dangerous. Yes, the vast majority of crime is occurring on the South / west sides but you have to be on your P's and Q's s wherever you live in the city. I've witnessed some drama downtown, that would've never happen say, a decade ago. The quality of life in Chicago is sup-par, you aren't getting the services you deserve even though we are being taxed to death on damn near everything, the school system sucks (it always has), and the corruption is so substantial it's impacting the quality of life irrespective of income. I seen this shit before but what is going on now is much worse than the mess the occurred in the mid 70s, much worse. We live for the most part in Michigan now, if I had it do all over again we would have never bought another place in Chicago. A lot of people are leaving the city to live in surrounding states.

TD3 said:

Chicago is dangerous. Yes, the vast majority of crime is occurring on the South / west sides but you have to be on your P's and Q's s wherever you live in the city. I've witnessed some drama downtown, that would've never happen say, a decade ago. The quality of life in Chicago is sup-par, you aren't getting the services you deserve even though we are being taxed to death on damn near everything, the school system sucks (it always has), and the corruption is so substantial it's impacting the quality of life irrespective of income. I seen this shit before but what is going on now is much worse than the mess the occurred in the mid 70s, much worse. We live for the most part in Michigan now, if I had it do all over again we would have never bought another place in Chicago. A lot of people are leaving the city to live in surrounding states.

where's you place in Chi? Want to sell?

TD3 said:

Chicago is dangerous. Yes, the vast majority of crime is occurring on the South / west sides but you have to be on your P's and Q's s wherever you live in the city. I've witnessed some drama downtown, that would've never happen say, a decade ago. The quality of life in Chicago is sup-par, you aren't getting the services you deserve even though we are being taxed to death on damn near everything, the school system sucks (it always has), and the corruption is so substantial it's impacting the quality of life irrespective of income. I seen this shit before but what is going on now is much worse than the mess the occurred in the mid 70s, much worse. We live for the most part in Michigan now, if I had it do all over again we would have never bought another place in Chicago. A lot of people are leaving the city to live in surrounding states.

That demonstrates how dangerous the city in general has become.

Cuddles said:

Ace said:

From Chicago? And what will bring you here?

Work ( I dont think anyone who lives in Toronto is from Toronto, right?

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I am. But, yeah - it's kinda like New York, in that way.

Ace said:

Cuddles said:

Work ( I dont think anyone who lives in Toronto is from Toronto, right?

[Edited 3/7/13 13:30pm]

I am. But, yeah - it's kinda like New York, in that way.

But there were insentives for people from other countries to move to Toronto, right?

Probably what will happen in Detroit.

Once notorious Chicago Cabrini Green projects

Isn''t rapper Drake from Toronto? Yet keeps rapping about coming from the bottom.It's funny when you hear kids from US complain about their hoods compare to third world ghettos,let alone someone from Canada,who appeared on a disney show.

Oh yeah i should know better its all part of the fake image.

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^ Yup he's from Toronto.

Cuddles said:

TD3 said:

Chicago is dangerous. Yes, the vast majority of crime is occurring on the South / west sides but you have to be on your P's and Q's s wherever you live in the city. I've witnessed some drama downtown, that would've never happen say, a decade ago. The quality of life in Chicago is sup-par, you aren't getting the services you deserve even though we are being taxed to death on damn near everything, the school system sucks (it always has), and the corruption is so substantial it's impacting the quality of life irrespective of income. I seen this shit before but what is going on now is much worse than the mess the occurred in the mid 70s, much worse. We live for the most part in Michigan now, if I had it do all over again we would have never bought another place in Chicago. A lot of people are leaving the city to live in surrounding states.

where's you place in Chi? Want to sell?

1100 block of North Lake Shore Drive. We are in a holding pattern; I'm trying to get my mother to at least move from the South side to our place. My husband still works in the city so....

TD3 said:

Cuddles said:

where's you place in Chi? Want to sell?

1100 block of North Lake Shore Drive. We are in a holding pattern; I'm trying to get my mother to at least move from the South side to our place. My husband still works in the city so....

oh I cant do some of those condos over there, is it small? no outdoor space?

Cuddles said:

TD3 said:

1100 block of North Lake Shore Drive. We are in a holding pattern; I'm trying to get my mother to at least move from the South side to our place. My husband still works in the city so....

oh I cant do some of those condos over there, is it small? no outdoor space?

Balcony no... roof top pool and sun deck. 2,215 sq. feet.

TD3 said:

Cuddles said:

oh I cant do some of those condos over there, is it small? no outdoor space?

Balcony no... roof top pool and sun deck. 2,215 sq. feet.

im looking in logan square/bucktown (still)

Cuddles said:

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Chicago is far more dangerous than Toronto and all.

Just saying.

It's not that dangerous

When an underage straight A+ honor student get killed by a drive-by shooting outside of the Chicago public library, THAT makes Chicago a dangerous city to lived in.

iaminparties said:

Isn''t rapper Drake from Toronto? Yet keeps rapping about coming from the bottom.It's funny when you hear kids from US complain about their hoods compare to third world ghettos,let alone someone from Canada,who appeared on a disney show.

Oh yeah i should know better its all part of the fake image.

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Toronto has some tough areas (though they're Disneyland compared to the tough areas I've seen in the U.S.). But Drake certainly isn't from one of those hoods. He grew up in Forest Hill, one of the most affluent areas in the entire country. The average annual household income there is $102,000 vs. $41,000 for the whole of Toronto. The average home sale price there in 2007 was $4.3 million.

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Lammastide said:

iaminparties said:

Isn''t rapper Drake from Toronto? Yet keeps rapping about coming from the bottom.It's funny when you hear kids from US complain about their hoods compare to third world ghettos,let alone someone from Canada,who appeared on a disney show.

Oh yeah i should know better its all part of the fake image.

[Edited 3/7/13 14:54pm]

Toronto has some tough areas (though they're Disneyland compared to the tough areas I've seen in the U.S.). But Drake certainly isn't from one of those hoods. He grew up in Forest Hill, one of the most affluent areas in the entire country. The average annual household income there is $102,000 vs. $41,000 for the whole of Toronto. The average home sale price there in 2007 was $4.3 million.

[Edited 3/7/13 16:59pm]

54 people murdered in Toronto in 2012: http://www.torontopolice...._stats.php

532 people murdered in Chicago in 2012 : http://www.weeklystandard...93417.html

Just sayin'

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