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Reply #30 posted 11/20/12 1:20pm

NaughtyKitty

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ELMO ACCUSER
We Dry-Humped
... But NO Intercourse!

BREAKING NEWS
112012_cecil_elmo_pressconf_launch
Kevin Clash -- the voice of Elmo -- did NOT have sexual intercourse with his 2nd accuser while Cecil Singleton was underage ... but they did engage in some dry-humping ... this according to Singleton.

Cecil just held a media conference about the lawsuit he filed against Clash in New York -- describing the allegations against the former "Sesame Street" star.

According to Singleton, his sexual relationship with Clash began when he was 15 and Clash was an adult ... and initially lasted for 2 weeks. But they picked things up a while later.

Singleton claims that while they never had sexual intercourse, the two did engage in several sexual activities together ... including "groping, masturbation, intense kissing, dry-humping."

Singleton says they had sexual intercourse years later ... when Cecil was an adult.

Cecil says he broke off the initial relationship because he felt Kevin liked him too much -- and Cecil didn't think he could handle the relationship.

We broke the story ... Cecil is suing Clash for more than $5 million in damages ... claiming he's suffering psychological and emotional issues caused by the relationship.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2CnfXjGn7

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Reply #31 posted 11/20/12 1:31pm

Graycap23

This is very sad. sad

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Reply #32 posted 11/20/12 1:57pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

ELMO ACCUSER
We Dry-Humped
... But NO Intercourse!

BREAKING NEWS
112012_cecil_elmo_pressconf_launch
Kevin Clash -- the voice of Elmo -- did NOT have sexual intercourse with his 2nd accuser while Cecil Singleton was underage ... but they did engage in some dry-humping ... this according to Singleton.

Cecil just held a media conference about the lawsuit he filed against Clash in New York -- describing the allegations against the former "Sesame Street" star.

According to Singleton, his sexual relationship with Clash began when he was 15 and Clash was an adult ... and initially lasted for 2 weeks. But they picked things up a while later.

Singleton claims that while they never had sexual intercourse, the two did engage in several sexual activities together ... including "groping, masturbation, intense kissing, dry-humping."

Singleton says they had sexual intercourse years later ... when Cecil was an adult.

Cecil says he broke off the initial relationship because he felt Kevin liked him too much -- and Cecil didn't think he could handle the relationship.

We broke the story ... Cecil is suing Clash for more than $5 million in damages ... claiming he's suffering psychological and emotional issues caused by the relationship.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2CnfXjGn7

Something tells me this will be settled too...

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Reply #33 posted 11/20/12 2:21pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

ELMO ACCUSER
We Dry-Humped
... But NO Intercourse!

BREAKING NEWS
112012_cecil_elmo_pressconf_launch
Kevin Clash -- the voice of Elmo -- did NOT have sexual intercourse with his 2nd accuser while Cecil Singleton was underage ... but they did engage in some dry-humping ... this according to Singleton.

Cecil just held a media conference about the lawsuit he filed against Clash in New York -- describing the allegations against the former "Sesame Street" star.

According to Singleton, his sexual relationship with Clash began when he was 15 and Clash was an adult ... and initially lasted for 2 weeks. But they picked things up a while later.

Singleton claims that while they never had sexual intercourse, the two did engage in several sexual activities together ... including "groping, masturbation, intense kissing, dry-humping."

Singleton says they had sexual intercourse years later ... when Cecil was an adult.

Cecil says he broke off the initial relationship because he felt Kevin liked him too much -- and Cecil didn't think he could handle the relationship.

We broke the story ... Cecil is suing Clash for more than $5 million in damages ... claiming he's suffering psychological and emotional issues caused by the relationship.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2CnfXjGn7

Something tells me this will be settled too...

so did the guy force him to come back when he was an adult,

and Cecil broke it off not because of emotional mental issues but because he felt Kevin liked him too much, after he took his nice dinners and money...

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Reply #34 posted 11/20/12 2:24pm

Timmy84

OldFriends4Sale said:

Timmy84 said:

Something tells me this will be settled too...

so did the guy force him to come back when he was an adult,

and Cecil broke it off not because of emotional mental issues but because he felt Kevin liked him too much, after he took his nice dinners and money...

The relationship seems real consensual to me.

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Reply #35 posted 11/20/12 4:22pm

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Fury said:

There are very few 15 year olds who look and speak like they are 18. And based on the pictures of the two accusers... Clash may have a thing for light-skinned effeminate young looking men If you look that young.. You better have a state issued id in your hand

Kevin used to be married so maybe he was one of those guys who felt more comfortable being with effeminate men so he would feel less gay. disbelief This second dude looks like a straight-up chick! If he was knowingly messing around with teenage boys then he was asking for trouble. Too many adult men out there would have been more than happy to have Kevin and probably would have kept their big, fat mouths shut, too. Now, he's been publically humiliated twice and his career is more than likely over. Guys, why do we so often let our hormones get us in trouble??? confused

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Reply #36 posted 11/20/12 5:07pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



Timmy84 said:




banks said:


This dude said he met Kevin on a gay phone chat line, what the hell was he doing on that at 15 yrs old ? He wasn't looking for another 15 yr old



I'm saying! Why was his young ass doing on a fucking gay phone chat line?!



right, Because I don't think he can be on a line like that at that age without parental permission



So was and did he pose as an older person




this!!

Those sex chat lines are set up that you have verify that all participants are of age of legal consent. Now if anyone could be liable it would be the sponsors of the sex chat for failing to have a better verification process. But not the participants who probably were duped.
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Reply #37 posted 11/20/12 7:18pm

missfee

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Timmy84 said:

falloff yeahthat

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #38 posted 11/20/12 7:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

so did the guy force him to come back when he was an adult,

and Cecil broke it off not because of emotional mental issues but because he felt Kevin liked him too much, after he took his nice dinners and money...

The relationship seems real consensual to me.

to me as well

those clothes he is wearing he probably bought with Kevins money

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Reply #39 posted 11/21/12 3:43pm

PDogz

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I've seen the documentary about him and I just found him to be SUCH a likable guy. He seemed so gosh darned pure-hearted.

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I just got finished watching it: "Being Elmo - A Puppeteer's Journey", what a good documentary, and great American success story.

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Reply #40 posted 11/22/12 5:54am

Graycap23

Clash is scheduled 2 speak here on the 28th. I wonder if he will?

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Reply #41 posted 11/22/12 9:16am

Timmy84

Kevin's first accuser, Sheldon Stephens, now claims he was coaxed into accepting money for a settlement, this is a mess:

http://www.dailymail.co.u...e-boy.html

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Reply #42 posted 11/26/12 7:03am

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Timmy84 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

so did the guy force him to come back when he was an adult,

and Cecil broke it off not because of emotional mental issues but because he felt Kevin liked him too much, after he took his nice dinners and money...

The relationship seems real consensual to me.

yeahthat
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Reply #43 posted 11/26/12 7:26am

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Fury said:

After Penn State you can bet he was asked to resign. If you're gonna have sex, have it with people close to your own age so there can be no misinterpretation of ages. 50 year old men and 20 year olds is still an invitation for trouble

You've been on point through out this subject. Even so, mature middle age men or women should be missing around with 20-ish young adults anyway. I don't care if the young people are legally adults; in my humble opinion you can't beat experience and manipulation in these types affairs are usually cared out my the middle age adult.

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Reply #44 posted 11/26/12 9:05pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

ELMO ACCUSER
We Dry-Humped
... But NO Intercourse!

BREAKING NEWS
112012_cecil_elmo_pressconf_launch
Kevin Clash -- the voice of Elmo -- did NOT have sexual intercourse with his 2nd accuser while Cecil Singleton was underage ... but they did engage in some dry-humping ... this according to Singleton.

Cecil just held a media conference about the lawsuit he filed against Clash in New York -- describing the allegations against the former "Sesame Street" star.

According to Singleton, his sexual relationship with Clash began when he was 15 and Clash was an adult ... and initially lasted for 2 weeks. But they picked things up a while later.

Singleton claims that while they never had sexual intercourse, the two did engage in several sexual activities together ... including "groping, masturbation, intense kissing, dry-humping."

Singleton says they had sexual intercourse years later ... when Cecil was an adult.

Cecil says he broke off the initial relationship because he felt Kevin liked him too much -- and Cecil didn't think he could handle the relationship.

We broke the story ... Cecil is suing Clash for more than $5 million in damages ... claiming he's suffering psychological and emotional issues caused by the relationship.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2CnfXjGn7

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Reply #45 posted 11/26/12 9:39pm

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I just can't see it. I can see fish in Kevin just from looking at his picture and fish guys usually go for a man that is more butch than they are. Both of these guys that are accusing him look like drag queens out of drag and the men that usually go after those types are usually hardcore overly butch types. You never know what type of fetishes an individual may secretly have but I have rarely seen fish with fish. Hell, that would be like dyking. lol

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Reply #46 posted 11/26/12 9:45pm

Timmy84

You'd be surprised how many men who look like Kevin will go for someone who is more feminine than they are... though Sheldon look like he bulked up in recent years. Cecil hasn't lol

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Reply #47 posted 11/26/12 10:32pm

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vainandy said:

I just can't see it. I can see fish in Kevin just from looking at his picture and fish guys usually go for a man that is more butch than they are.

I understand the idea you're conveying; that a picture is worth a thousand words, because I also often read a lot into a person's picture (even to the extent of making character judgments). However, if you watch the documentary on Kevin's career as a puppeteer (if you haven't already), I'm wondering if you would get a different impression of the "type" of man Kevin may be. In other words, I'm wondering if seeing and hearing him interact in extensive video footage over the years would give you a different impression than what you get by just looking at his picture?

I definitely feel like Kevin made some poor choices in dating, but these guys don't seem to me to be out of the realm of likely "types" Kevin would have possibly been attracted to. Yet, nor do they seem to me to be innocent victims in need of compensation.

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Reply #48 posted 11/27/12 9:25am

Ottensen

Timmy84 said:

falloff falloff falloff

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Reply #49 posted 11/27/12 9:35am

Ottensen

PDogz said:

vainandy said:

I just can't see it. I can see fish in Kevin just from looking at his picture and fish guys usually go for a man that is more butch than they are.

I understand the idea you're conveying; that a picture is worth a thousand words, because I also often read a lot into a person's picture (even to the extent of making character judgments). However, if you watch the documentary on Kevin's career as a puppeteer (if you haven't already), I'm wondering if you would get a different impression of the "type" of man Kevin may be. In other words, I'm wondering if seeing and hearing him interact in extensive video footage over the years would give you a different impression than what you get by just looking at his picture?

I definitely feel like Kevin made some poor choices in dating, but these guys don't seem to me to be out of the realm of likely "types" Kevin would have possibly been attracted to. Yet, nor do they seem to me to be innocent victims in need of compensation.

I can agree with this.

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Reply #50 posted 11/27/12 9:35am

Timmy84

PDogz said:

vainandy said:

I just can't see it. I can see fish in Kevin just from looking at his picture and fish guys usually go for a man that is more butch than they are.

I understand the idea you're conveying; that a picture is worth a thousand words, because I also often read a lot into a person's picture (even to the extent of making character judgments). However, if you watch the documentary on Kevin's career as a puppeteer (if you haven't already), I'm wondering if you would get a different impression of the "type" of man Kevin may be. In other words, I'm wondering if seeing and hearing him interact in extensive video footage over the years would give you a different impression than what you get by just looking at his picture?

I definitely feel like Kevin made some poor choices in dating, but these guys don't seem to me to be out of the realm of likely "types" Kevin would have possibly been attracted to. Yet, nor do they seem to me to be innocent victims in need of compensation.

Yup. Especially that Sheldon dude.

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Reply #51 posted 11/27/12 9:51am

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Third accuser of former Elmo voice Kevin Clash files lawsuit

A third accuser of former Elmo voice Kevin Clash emerged on Tuesday. Clash earlier resigned from "Sesame Street" after not one, but two men accused Clash of having sex with them when they were still underage teens.

The first, Sheldon Stephens, now 24, recanted his accusations, but was said to have done so after receiving a six-figure "settlement." A second man, Cecil Singleton, eventually clarified matters and said he and Clash only dry-humped, with no actual intercourse.

Cecil Singleton has filed a lawsuit and is seeking over $5 million in damages.

The third accuser, now 28 and currently identified in his lawsuit against Clash only as "John Doe," said that he met Clash on a gay phone chat line when he was 16 and Clash was approximately 40. According to the lawsuit, Clash used alcohol to ply the man into oral sex.

The alleged victim said that he was in New York City pursuing modeling opportunities when Clash invited him to his apartment. John Doe said that Clash plied him with alcohol and "groomed him" (whatever that means); the pair then engaged in sexual contact that included "oral sex and digital penetration of John's anus."

No further sexual contact occurred until Doe became an adult, although Clash stayed in touch with him after the sexual encounter. Doe is suing for unspecified damages, and is represented by Jeff Herman, who is also Singleton's lawyer.

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Reply #52 posted 11/27/12 9:54am

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Here come accuser # 3

all 3 of these dudes needs a big helping of Hoe sit down!!!

I'm sure Kevin isn't the only older dude they slept with, but probably the only one with Millions..

rolleyes

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Reply #53 posted 11/27/12 9:59am

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Reply #54 posted 11/27/12 10:02am

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Reply #55 posted 11/27/12 12:11pm

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banks said:

Third accuser of former Elmo voice Kevin Clash files lawsuit

A third accuser of former Elmo voice Kevin Clash emerged on Tuesday. Clash earlier resigned from "Sesame Street" after not one, but two men accused Clash of having sex with them when they were still underage teens.

The first, Sheldon Stephens, now 24, recanted his accusations, but was said to have done so after receiving a six-figure "settlement." A second man, Cecil Singleton, eventually clarified matters and said he and Clash only dry-humped, with no actual intercourse.

Cecil Singleton has filed a lawsuit and is seeking over $5 million in damages.

The third accuser, now 28 and currently identified in his lawsuit against Clash only as "John Doe," said that he met Clash on a gay phone chat line when he was 16 and Clash was approximately 40. According to the lawsuit, Clash used alcohol to ply the man into oral sex.

The alleged victim said that he was in New York City pursuing modeling opportunities when Clash invited him to his apartment. John Doe said that Clash plied him with alcohol and "groomed him" (whatever that means); the pair then engaged in sexual contact that included "oral sex and digital penetration of John's anus."

No further sexual contact occurred until Doe became an adult, although Clash stayed in touch with him after the sexual encounter. Doe is suing for unspecified damages, and is represented by Jeff Herman, who is also Singleton's lawyer.

these guys seemed to have been living adult lives or at least pretending

the 3rd guy (living on his own?) in NYC pursuing a modelling career and on an adult phone line

these guys are just going after money

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Reply #56 posted 11/27/12 12:34pm

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banks said:

I'm sure Kevin isn't the only older dude they slept with...

...nor do I suspect Kevin was even the first. THAT honor probably went to some "uncle" or "friend of the family".

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Reply #57 posted 11/27/12 12:53pm

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banks said:

Here come accuser # 3

all 3 of these dudes needs a big helping of Hoe sit down!!!

I'm sure Kevin isn't the only older dude they slept with, but probably the only one with Millions..

rolleyes

Looks like a money grab is going into full effect.

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Reply #58 posted 11/28/12 5:01pm

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What saddens me is that damn "elmo" and the whole sesame st name got pulled into this mess.

Doesn't everybody know that many performers, puppeteers included are a bit unusual sexually?

Does it really need to effect the place that they work?

Surely under age men have had sex with CVS, Target, Walmart worker etc and it is not a statement about the whole store.

There are children in those stores but no one makes it seems like one has anything to do with the other.

am i making sense????

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Reply #59 posted 11/29/12 6:00am

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Deadflow3r said:

What saddens me is that damn "elmo" and the whole sesame st name got pulled into this mess.

Doesn't everybody know that many performers, puppeteers included are a bit unusual sexually?

Does it really need to effect the place that they work?

Surely under age men have had sex with CVS, Target, Walmart worker etc and it is not a statement about the whole store.

There are children in those stores but no one makes it seems like one has anything to do with the other.

am i making sense????

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