Droppin' elbows all over heaven!!
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Shawn is now my favorite wrestler. Sting was always my absolute favorite until maybe 2005 when I started really watching HBK's old matches and his matches with Triple H, Kurt Angle, and his hilarious overselling in his match with Hogan
HBK was consistently pulling off classic matches for most of his career and contributed just as much to the company as Hogan did.
The first ladder match at Wrestlemania the first hell in a cell match the first elimination chamber match helped launch the "New Generation" era (post Hogan) and with Austin, started the Attitude Era
I hope WWE releases a DVD boxset of Shawn's matches. "My Journey" is good, but a set of his best matches from 1984 to 2009 would be a must have
you're definitely right! Mason is just a Batista clone. The whole Nexus angle needs to die because the only one who has a personality in the group is CM Punk "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I snapped into multiple Slim Jims and watched the Savage / Steamboat match last night. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Oddly his death just made me forget about watching this week's pay-per-view show tonight. | |
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Yea, I felt his death much more that I would have expected. Me and my Mom used to watch him and his death made me remember those good times. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Yeah also I felt my childhood call me ONCE I heard he died. It was like "wow, no wonder I haven't been feeling excited about wrestling as of recent". It's hard to accept because I loved wrestling (though I never got too deep into it like my cousin) but it's definitely falling out with me and has been since 2003. | |
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Timmy, I found this
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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^ Real interesting. I think I did watch this when it came on. I used to watch talk shows as a kid for some odd reason. | |
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reading from a wrestling site about 2night's WWE PPV ..the show began with a in memorium picture of macho man man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Tweeted today by Jim Ross:
"1. No idea what is or isn't planned re Macho Man @ upcoming WWE broadcasts. 2. Ur guess good as mine on Savage in WWE HOF. Deserving? Yes."
Hopefully JR is just trying to keep things a surprise.
If not... [Edited 5/22/11 19:18pm] She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... | |
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Yeah, that's all that was done, with his birth and death years underneath. The only other "mention" or sighting of it was CM Punk had "macho" written on the tape of his wrists, and at some point in his match, he was trying to hit the flying elbow off the top rope after pointing skyward. He missed, though.
Outside of the Christian/Orton match (which didn't end to my liking) and a Bret Hart appearance, this PPV absolutely SUCKED! That "I Quit" match was beyond embarrassing. | |
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I did good skipping that shit then. | |
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I think WWE should cut their PPV schedule down to maybe 6-8 PPVs a year, that way, they have more time to build and hype matches
2006 had 16 PPVs.....I wonder what the buyrates were for those
Do like this:
January- Royal Rumble
February- Elimination Chamber
April- Wrestlemania
June- King Of The Ring
August- Summerslam
October- Vengence
November- Survivor Series (I believe they should, instead, bring Wargames back to replace SS)
December- TLC
THEN..... bring back Clash Of The Champions or Night Of Champions, a show on regular TV but with effort put into it as much as a Wrestlemania or Summerslam. Put it on NBC during the months where they don't have a PPV
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and that sig line =
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They won't ever return to that, but at the rate they're going, I won't be surprised if they're going bankrupt. Nowadays if you're in the WWE, you don't even get a chance to grow especially when you become a big draw and keep losing matches. Hell Miz's career is suffering now because of that "I Quit" match so he probably won't ever be a serious contender again. And they need to stop letting commentators wrestle. Michael Cole also needs to leave...immediately. I swear if he and Lawler's "feud" continues, I'll stop watching PPV wrestling altogether! | |
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They're far from bankrupt. They have numerous endorsements, the videogames still sell great, WWE Classics OnDemand is great, and their merchandising is through the roof (Cena is the new Hogan, that's the best way to describe how successful his merchandise is)
Their demographic focus is on kids. Their audience is 40% kids and women so they want to "soften" up the show.
The problems:
-Vince doesn't have wrestling experts/bookers working on the shows anymore, he has writers now. They have SCRIPTS now. People who didn't know much about the wrestling business are head of a wrestling show
-I'm not gonna say they should get back to the Attitude Era because frankly, the Attitude Era had it's fair share of crap. Remember Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Val Venis, The Godfather, DX in blackface....and don't forget the overall wackness of X Pac, but the highlights of the Attitude Era and the 1992-1997 period was the great matches and the storytelling, something you don't see these days. They can be PG, but they can still pull off great matches, but they don't seem to know that "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Or care to even try it. | |
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Vince is a genius. People say its the wrestlers that make the WWF/E. If that was the case then why don't we have PPV's or weekly televised wrestling shows from all the regional promotions. Vince made Professional Wrestling worldwide. Yes there were Hulk Hogan, Roddy Pipper and Macho Man to name a few but the overall success is due to the genius of Vince.
To the other point People on here saying Vince is a prick for not helping wrestlers. Vince does more than anyone to help wrestlers when they are in trouble. He started the Wellness foundation for any employee who has worked for the WWF/E to attend when they have had drug related or other personal issues to deal with. Even when a wrestler has left the company and started working for rival organizations like TNA they are still allowed to enter the wellness foundation for life.
A perfect example of this is Scott Hall (Razor Ramone).
Finally. Macho may you rest in peace. One of my all time favorite wrestlers and when you passed part of my childhood left me as well.
One critism i do have of Vince is that he should have inducted Randy Savage into the Hall of Fame and i think this will play on Vince's mind for the rest of his life. | |
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^ He's a great businessman and all but he's a dog. | |
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Yeah, you did real good by skipping it.
John Cena got decimated by both The Miz and Alex Riley for over 20 minutes (being whipped with straps, kendo sticks, thrown off the stage, pelted with a chair several times. He hardly got ANY offense in), and towards the end he just gets up, takes his belt off and chases The Miz, puts on his STFU, and The Miz quits??? What kind of bullshit was that?!! They just made The Miz look incredibly weak and like shit. They wonder why there aren't any stars besides Cena and Orton; look no further than this PPV.
And Orton goes over Christian cleanly, with NO payoff?? No heel turn by either of them, or anything that spells out the feud would continue. Granted, it was an excellent match, but I'm tired of them jobbing out Christian, and if they're wanting to turn one of them, they need to start doing it. Their (WWE "Creative") storytelling sucks!! They actually expect people to plunk down $40-$50 a month for this shit?? This one was just 3 weeks from the last one, mind you. | |
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You can see the buyrates for the PPVs on WWE's Corporate website, since they're now a public company and must present that sorta stuff.
I almost think 8 would be too many, but there should definitely be no more than that. Something like the Cole/Lawler thing could've easily been on Raw. Or better yet, not on anywhere at all. It was the dumbest of all angles, and Cole just sounds annoying. Nothing "heelish" about him; just BORING. At least R-Truth cleanly won, and I hope they go somewhere with him soon.
They had Del Rio come out for a quick promo before the Kane/Show vs Nexus match for what?? Just to get his face on TV because he wasn't a part of the PPV? He didn't even say shit besides tell us his name, like he ALWAYS does. Hmmm, well if you cut down the time Cole and Lawler take up with their bullshit, you'd have enough time for a real match with other more deserving wrestlers. | |
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RIP Macho! You were the best wrestler ever!! Ooooh Yeah!!!! "Time is a train, makes the future the past" | |
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ever since the brand seperation i don't get the ppv but i was suckered into this year's wrestlemania cause of the rock, stone cold, the undertaker vs HHH match which was hot as blazes. when it comes 2 the ppv events tho unless it's the big 5 and even those aren't guarentees anymore ijust wait for the results.
i heard about cm punk having macho on his wrist bands ..nice touch and hopefully tonight during raw there will be more of a tribute.
as 4 the orton/christian match ..it's a shame they stripped christian so quickly in favor of orton, tho i like orton, it would be nice 2 see someone else hold the titles for a while. hell the miz held his title longer than christian and the miz sucks outside of his catch phrase. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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they need 2 also beef up the divas division cause most of those women look busted or lack the in ring skill. and the ones that do possess the talent like the glamazon, natalia and now u got the chick with the braids are going 2 be side stepped 4 the likes of kelly kelly ..seriously?!! at least on tna the women look hot and can wrestle man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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raw opened with the memorium birth and death of macho man
a lot of signs with RIP macho man and OOH YEAH man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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FINALLY a montage. This man oozed charisma. It wasn't faked, it wasn't forced
WWE Superstars of today need to study this man "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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i was about 2 say wtf since they have done montages on mr perfect and others and finally they did it ..very moving tribute man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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WWE doesn't necessary have to bring back all of the Attitude Era-like ideas. But they sure as hell do NOT need to try so hard to be rated TV-PG neither.
I say that all of the Vince Russo-wannable script writers with university degrees should be fired, without question. All wrestlers need to have the responsible to shape their own characters and used their wrestling skills to define themselves. I know I sound a little old-fashioned like Jim Cornette mkII over here, but that is the only way that pro wrestling can be save at this point.
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OK, the video tribute definitely made me tear up!
And BIG shoutout to CM Punk for his Macho Man inspired gear for tonight's show!
Punk has always paid tribute to his fallen heroes the right way. 1st, it was the Mistuharu Misawa written on the tape around his hands after he died, tonight it's the Macho Man trunks.
Very Classy guy, that CM Punk! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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we definitely agree. Get rid of the hollywood writers and bring back the guys like Kevin Sullivan and Jim Cornette to do the booking
I hate to say this, but Triple H could very well be the person who will help the WWE out of its current funk. He's the person behind the arrivals of Kharma, Sin Cara, and I think also Alberto Del Rio. He's the one behind the videos that teased Kharma, bring back the promo trailers that WWE and WCW used to show
He has the right mind, so he could be the one "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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